low poo? don't know these ingredients...

lodylody Registered Users Posts: 334
I know, this is the NOpoo board, but still ;)

I've foudn a shampoo with these ingredients:
Aqua (Water), Coco Glucoside, Alcohol*, Glycerin, Disodium Cocoyl Glutamate, Sodium Cocoyl Glutamate, Glyceryl Oleate, Sodium PCA, Urtica Dioica (Nettle) Extract*, Hydrolyzed Silk, Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Bran Extract, Xanthan Gum, Parfum (Essential Oils), Linalool, Limonene, Phytic Acid, Citric Acid

Is it low poo? Will it remove silicones? Is it better for my hair than regular sulfate shampoo? It's much more expensive than a regular shampoo (not deathly expensive, but 8ish euros for a fairly small bottle) so pretty much what I'm asking is, would this be worth it to help my not-yet-cg hair?
3a in Paris
I use:
Garnier Ultra Doux conditioners
High in glycerin conditioners
As much gel as possible
Testing out flax seed gel
Plopping, for around 30 minutes
Pixiecurl drying
Pineappling

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  • ReddishRocksReddishRocks Registered Users Posts: 779 Curl Neophyte
    I'm not familiar with all of those ingredients, but I don't see anything in there that's a surfactant that will remove silicones. :( Disodium Cocoyl Glutamate is derived from coconut, so it may have some surfactant qualities, but I'm really not sure to what extent.

    And without knowing what kind of alcohol that is at ingredient number three... I don't know if that'd be good for you at all!

    Check this list: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/curl-products/ingredients-commonly-found-in-hair-care-products Anionic and amphoteric surfactants can remove silicones.

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  • BoomygrrlBoomygrrl Registered Users Posts: 4,940 Curl Neophyte
    Maybe Coco Glucoside is something like Decyl glucoside. If so, then that's a surfactant. You might want to research that particular chemical more. I have a shampoo with decyl glucoside in it and I love that shampoo!

    I'm confused about the alcohol *. Is that how it is written on the ingredients? There are good alcohols and bad ones. If it's a bad one (a drying one) then it will dry out your hair, which isn't what a curly needs.
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  • stellaBabystellaBaby Registered Users Posts: 237
    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/curly-q-a/whats-the-scoop-on-silicones

    I really like that article. It also tells you what ingredients you might wanna look for in a shampoo if you what to wash out some "cones". If I were you I would be a little weary about that "alcohol* " ingredient.. if it the "good kind" then you are fine but if it is the "bad kind" then it might dry out your hair extremely and cause major breakage. But overall I recommend a sodium laureth sulfate (sls) based shampoo.. if you are worried about using too much, causing it to dry your hair out you can always dilute a pea sized amount in water (preferably a measuring cup that can hold two cups of water).. you end up having more of the solution to wash your hair with but not a thick consistency.. not sure if that makes sense LOL. But i hope you get the point.
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  • stellaBabystellaBaby Registered Users Posts: 237
    I also found this really great article about alcohols found in ingredients. Happy reading :)



    Some facts about alcohol
    By Tonya McKay (NaturallyCurly.com)
    We have all heard the advice that it is best to avoid the use of products that contain alcohol, as it can be drying to the hair. This is especially true for those of us with curly hair, which has the tendency to need all the moisture it can get. However, we often get a little baffled; because we see ingredients including the word ‘alcohol’ in many of the products we buy, including those that are labeled as conditioning products. The explanation is a fairly simple one: some alcohols can cause dry, frizzy hair while others can act to condition your hair!

    This apparent contradiction in performance is due to the structure of the alcohol. Alcohols are a class of materials defined by certain characteristics. They have a nonpolar carbon chain and a polar hydroxyl group (an oxygen atom bonded to a hydrogen atom) bonded to one of the carbons in the chain (most often at the end of the chain). We'll look at the various types of alchohols.

    Short-chain alcohols
    This group includes ethanol, SD alcohol, SD alcohol 40, Alcohol denat, Propanol, Propyl alcohol and Isopropyl alcohol.

    Due to similarities with water molecules, the very small alcohols (ones with fewer than 3 carbons in the tail) are slightly miscible (capable of mixing) in water, while they can also dissolve oil and other ingredients that are not miscible with water. Thus, one function they can serve is to dissolve polymers or other additives prior to their addition to the aqueous portion of the formula.

    These types of alcohols evaporate quickly due to their low molecular weight, and for this reason are often used as an additive to help decrease the time it takes for hair to dry. However, this can create dry, frizzy hair as it may cause the cuticle to be roughened and/or oil and water to be removed from the hair along with the alcohol (remember, these are often use as astringents for our skin for just this reason). Another function of these lower molecular-weight alcohols, particularly ethanol (SD alcohol, SD alcohol 40, Alcohol Denat) is to ensure the proper, even spreading of styling products onto the hair.

    Fatty alcohols
    This group includes Lauryl alcohol, Cetyl alcohol, Myristyl alcohol, Stearyl alcohol, Cetearyl alcohol and Behenyl alcohol.

    These larger alcohols are typically derived from natural sources, and have 12 or more carbons per molecule (typically 12, 14, 16, 18, and 20). This higher amount of carbon content makes these molecules oilier (also referred to as ‘fatty’). For this reason, they are often used as an emollient in skin and haircare products. They give a smooth, soft feeling to the hair shaft by helping the cuticle to lie flat on the surface of the hair. However, if used in excess, fatty alcohols can combine with the natural sebum found on the scalp and form a sticky substance that makes the hair look greasy.

    Another function these fatty alcohols typically perform in shampoos and conditioners is as thickeners and as nonionic surfactants and emulsion stabilizers. In fact, a fatty alcohol content of 4-5% is very common for this purpose; especially in products where there is a need to keep the price lower than that of a formula containing an expensive polymer that could achieve similar results.

    Miscellaneous alcohols
    Benzyl alcohol is a non-volatile alcohol used as a preservative in products. It should not impact the texture or feel of your hair. Propylene glycol is most often used as a humectant, because it has a hydroxyl group at each end of the molecule. This makes it much more hydrophilic (water-loving), so that it can attract and hold water to the hair.

    Conclusion
    Some alcohols may cause our delicate curly hair to be dried and frizzy, and we do well to avoid those in most cases. However, other alcohols such as cetyl alcohol can help to condition our hair and make it soft and manageable. In general, curlies might want to be cautious of short-chain alcohols, and not so worried about fatty alcohols, benzyl alcohol or proplyene glycol. As with all ingredients, it is always best to use trial and error as a method for determining what gives you the best results
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    I think my hair type is :pain10: 3c? 3b? eh 4a? hmm idk
    My hair survives on;
    Suave naturals
    Herbal essences set me up gel
    Amla powder
    Other lovies; :laughing8:
    [Vitamins, olive oil, honey, silk peptide powder,vitamin e oil]

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