I wanna love my waves but I just can't....**updated with pics link**

in Hair Type 2
I have been reading and learning from this site for years. Unfortunately, the love hate relationship I have with my hair usually leans more toward the hate side of things; so, I have finally decided to post and ask for help.
My hair is a mixture of 2 b, c and 3 a. The underneath, back of my hair is 3 a; the front is 2b and the canopy varies by day. Through out I have 2 c hair mixed in. My dark ash blond hair is highlighted to help camoflauge the gray and is usually frizzy and dry.
Right now I am using DevaCare No Poo and One Condition followed by Shikai natural everday conditioner for a leave-in and Ouidad climate control. I have been going without shampoo for about 2 weeks now, after straightening for a year and I am getting restless with the lack of uniform definition of my frizzy waves.
For second day hair I am using Mister Right mixed with a bit of broccoli seed oil and Curls Godess Glaze.
I have been searching through all the forums for product help and have gotten myself all confused. Any advice, comments, and encouragement will be greatly appreciated.
My hair is a mixture of 2 b, c and 3 a. The underneath, back of my hair is 3 a; the front is 2b and the canopy varies by day. Through out I have 2 c hair mixed in. My dark ash blond hair is highlighted to help camoflauge the gray and is usually frizzy and dry.
Right now I am using DevaCare No Poo and One Condition followed by Shikai natural everday conditioner for a leave-in and Ouidad climate control. I have been going without shampoo for about 2 weeks now, after straightening for a year and I am getting restless with the lack of uniform definition of my frizzy waves.
For second day hair I am using Mister Right mixed with a bit of broccoli seed oil and Curls Godess Glaze.
I have been searching through all the forums for product help and have gotten myself all confused. Any advice, comments, and encouragement will be greatly appreciated.
Mixture of type 2 hair
First day of Wavy CG method: 08/22/08
http://public.fotki.com/WannaLoveMyWaves/
PW: waves
First day of Wavy CG method: 08/22/08
http://public.fotki.com/WannaLoveMyWaves/
PW: waves
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When I first started out I thought I could go straight CG. Once my waves looked lifeless and greasy, I found out modified CG was the way to go. Now, I'm wading through a sea of products trying to find out the combos and methods that work for my hair.
Maybe a particular product or ingredient isn't agreeing with you. Try excluding one product at a time to narrow it down. For frizz, try a weekly deep treatment to bombard your hair with moisture.
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I would go back to a sulfate shampoo for a one timer, get your hair completely clean of anything that'll build up. You want to ditch anything that's got 'cones or 'xanes in them, as these ingredients build up on your hair and prevent your natural oils from penetrating and doing their job. They also require harsh sulfates to remove, which strip your hair of it's natural oils, which is a bad thing.
A lot of people go without shampoo at all, preferring instead to wash with conditioner. That doesn't work for me, so instead I use a shampoo that doesn't have any sulfates in it. I alternate before two conditioners, both 'cone free: Suave Naturals Vanilla, and Tigi Moisture Maniac. I comb my hair only when in it's saturated with conditioner, and use a leave in conditioner (or CurlKeeper), and follow with a medium hold combination of gels that help my curls (well, waves, mostly) clump together and hold their definition. The products in my sig are all CG friendly and most of them are pretty cheap and easily accessible.
Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
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2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive
Link-Spritz & Condish Washing:glasses7:
I'm aCurlJunkieJunky :love4:
My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:
CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
I second the photos suggestion too. If you post pictures, it's easier for us to help. Good luck!
No silicones/no sulfates since March 2008
I will also get on those pictures.....as soon as I have a somewhat presentable, non-ponytail day :glasses10:
I am trying to come up with specific products to try and the first one I want to try is FOTE aloe. Any other must tries? I primarily need moisture and frizz control; but, would like curl enhancing as well.
Thanks again!
First day of Wavy CG method: 08/22/08
http://public.fotki.com/WannaLoveMyWaves/
PW: waves
2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive
Link-Spritz & Condish Washing:glasses7:
I'm aCurlJunkieJunky :love4:
My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:
CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
Also, try the FOTE AVG, but if you don't find it to be quite right for you, try mixing it in your hands with something else. I've been having great luck mixing FOTE AVG with LOOB in my hands before I scrunch it in. My clumps break up the more I scrunch, but I like to use both products, so mixing them in my hands is key. I use CK in soaking wet hair raked through, and then LOOB/AVG scrunched in, then plopped for 10 minutes or so.
Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
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Okay, so today, I washed my hair with low-poo, followed by a protein DT and a moisturizing DT. I *think* it looks better today and less frizzy. Only time will tell - I am not completely dry yet. I will attempt pictures when I am dry.
I also picked up some LOOB today; but, could not find FOTE. I will keep looking.
I am going to be placing a curlmart order soon, which will include CK. I can't just order that though ;-); any other must haves?
First day of Wavy CG method: 08/22/08
http://public.fotki.com/WannaLoveMyWaves/
PW: waves
A lot of people are talking about Tweek, though I know nothing about it.
You might want to take the DTs one at a time to start out with. I would go with a moisturizing DT for a bit until you're doing a little better overall, then try the protein. Too much protein can ultimately hurt your hair.
FOTE is tough to find, just be sure to check WalMart, and NOT in the suncare section, but rather in the body lotions section. It's a wicked cheap buy, too, so hopefully you'll find it!
Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
Stolen.
2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive
Link-Spritz & Condish Washing:glasses7:
I'm aCurlJunkieJunky :love4:
My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:
CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
http://public.fotki.com/WannaLoveMyWaves/
PW: waves
First day of Wavy CG method: 08/22/08
http://public.fotki.com/WannaLoveMyWaves/
PW: waves
I cant used the products with amodimethicone, I get stringy. I LOVE CK. DTs are crucial for me, as are ACVs and, now, Honey!
Good luck!
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So far, the best DT i've tried (and granted, I'm still new so I've only tried a couple) has been Africa's Best oil, heated up a bit and used as a hot oil treatment all over. I left it in for about an hour, an hour and a half and my hair was really soft and flowy afterwards.
FOTE... 3 days ago, I would have said it was the best thing ever. Right now though, I think it's the root of my frizz problem. I haven't tried mixing it with anything other than KY though (the poor man's CK)... gel seems like a good idea and it's worth a shot.
HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive
Link-Spritz & Condish Washing:glasses7:
I'm aCurlJunkieJunky :love4:
My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:
CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
CK is what gives me definition. It has enough hold for me to keep the definition but many wavies need gel on top to hold it. HEBE and HESMU work well too if you don't have the cash for BRHG.
I tried LOOB this week. It gave my curl more consistency - at least on Day 1. Day 4 now I'm back to waves, ringlets and banana curls. So sharie, you're not alone.
Current Experiment: S&C by D
Curl Fix and Daily Fix are my HGs :love4:
Sulphate and cone free since July 2007
wavy/curly fine texture/medium porosity/medium-low density
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PW: wavycurly
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poor you with your beautiful ringlets and banana curls until day 11!!!! :laughing7:
I'm still not liking my hair after day 1 but I'm hoping that JC nourish and shine will change that for me! I just got it today so haven't worked with it YET. It just isn't holding up after the 1st day as well as I would like and I'm flat out of ideas:roll: If I wet it it frizzes more, if I use oils no definition..............ugh...............
2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive
Link-Spritz & Condish Washing:glasses7:
I'm aCurlJunkieJunky :love4:
My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:
CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
Am I reading correctly? 11 day hair!? And I am excited about second day hair. I am VERY impressed.
Mims: my hair seems to really like oil too and moisture has always been an issue for me.
I am so glad that I finally posted here, instead of just reading. It is nice to interact and find people who understand when I complain about my hair!
First day of Wavy CG method: 08/22/08
http://public.fotki.com/WannaLoveMyWaves/
PW: waves
2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive
Link-Spritz & Condish Washing:glasses7:
I'm aCurlJunkieJunky :love4:
My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:
CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
First day of Wavy CG method: 08/22/08
http://public.fotki.com/WannaLoveMyWaves/
PW: waves
Very cool. Never heard of such a thing. Did you find that in a store or online?
And del exaggerates, it was day 9 not 11. :tongue1:
Grass is always greener. I would like to have good Day 1 and 2 hair. I feel mine doesn't really start looking "right' until Day 3 or 4.
Current Experiment: S&C by D
Curl Fix and Daily Fix are my HGs :love4:
Sulphate and cone free since July 2007
wavy/curly fine texture/medium porosity/medium-low density
http://public.fotki.com/whatsercurl/
PW: wavycurly
Seek not to change the world. Rather seek to change your mind about the world.
I posted to one of your other threads, but I'll post here since this seems to be the more active one.
Let me say this: I envy you if those pictures represent Problem Hair! There is such good advice on these boards -- if you try some things, and take care of your hair, and find what works for you, that hair is going to have you smiling in no time. Especially if this is your starting point! (envy, envy, envy....)
Wurly and proud!
Modified CG since 2008.
AHEM..........anyways............
Day 9 or Day 11 you're still doing better than most of us you curly/wavy :queen:that we all admire...
2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive
Link-Spritz & Condish Washing:glasses7:
I'm aCurlJunkieJunky :love4:
My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:
CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.