So, how many conservative, moderates are here?

susancnwsusancnw Curl NovicePosts: 1,374Registered Users Curl Novice
Okay. I know that I'm not the only one here....
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  • susancnwsusancnw Curl Novice Posts: 1,374Registered Users Curl Novice
    :hello2: Knew that I wasn't alone...but just checkin'.
    My son wears combat boots (and a parachute). So does my son-in-law.
    The older I get, the less patience I have with cleverness. Thomas Sowell.
    Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. Benjamin Franklin.
    Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. Mark Twain.

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  • misspammisspam Posts: 5,318Registered Users
    Another member of the vast right wing conspiracy checking in...:wav:
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  • Brown_Eyed_GirlBrown_Eyed_Girl Curl Neophyte Posts: 1,353Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Count me in.
  • godgivenpermgodgivenperm Posts: 678Registered Users
    susancnw wrote: »
    What if I don't want to vote for any of them?

    That's how I feel right now. I don't even like the Libertarian candidate.

    How about a "common sense" party?
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  • RheannaRheanna Posts: 2,614Registered Users
    Count me in as well.
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  • curlygirlymecurlygirlyme Posts: 1,340Registered Users
    susancnw wrote: »
    What if I don't want to vote for any of them?

    That's how I feel right now. I don't even like the Libertarian candidate.

    How about a "common sense" party?


    I'm in for that one!
    I'm checking in as a conservative.
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  • susancnwsusancnw Curl Novice Posts: 1,374Registered Users Curl Novice
    misspam wrote: »
    Another member of the vast right wing conspiracy checking in...:wav:

    Do you have your card? I did a 'battle of the cards' with a friend of my oldest son...he has an ACLU card. Should've seen his face when I pulled out mine :D. I love the kid and we've had some great discussions. Maybe I should add that link to my siggy!

    GGP - I'm with you there! There are times when I really do like the Libertarian candidates (shoot, I'll vote for any party that I am assured has mine and my family's best interests at heart), but I'm not happy with any of them. Different ones have different things I like, but since we can't do the 'president ala carte', I'm sorta stuck. I hate deciding between the lesser of two evils. I guess I'll wait and see who the VP candidates are. I know who I'd LIKE to see in the position...but we've only got a few weeks left at most...guess I can wait.

    I've got friends in that live in Denver and I've asked what they are doing. One is taking part of the week off so she doesn't fight traffic, one is leaving the state that week (on purpose and she's a democrat). Not sure yet what our family is doing...we get together each month, alternating homes and I suspect we'll go there in July and here in Aug, instead of vice versa like we should.

    I swear, the longer this campaign has dragged on, the more I've gotten way tired of the process. My kids have not allowed me to watch ANY of the debates. Seems I threw a pillow at the TV the last time around - and I've also been informed that they cannot hear me, no matter how loudly I yell. Hmmph!

    I do like to hear the other side though...if it can be done without name calling just because I ask a question or venture my own opinion. Funny, that sort of stuff used to happen only with the anonymity of the 'net, but sheesh, I get it to my face now. Last cycle I had a uni student ask me if I was registered to vote (yes, but that's none of your business) and then had a few other questions to ask. Apparently I gave the 'wrong' answer, 'cause he got pretty snotty. DH dragged me off for a beer before I could reply. He's such a spoilsport.
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    The older I get, the less patience I have with cleverness. Thomas Sowell.
    Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. Benjamin Franklin.
    Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. Mark Twain.

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  • godgivenpermgodgivenperm Posts: 678Registered Users
    I was so hopeful that I wouldn’t be picking the “least of the evils” this time around but dang—that’s my feeling again. For a while I was seriously thinking of not voting but that wouldn’t be right either as we are privileged to live in a country where we can vote.

    There are parts of McCain’s platform that I like and parts that I hate. Same for Obama. Not sure about Barr, the Lib candidate; I’ll need to check him out a little further.
    It may well come down to whom the VP’s are for me too. I wish Ron Paul could get selected in there somewhere—and yet there are parts of his platform that I don’t like either!

    I’m not looking forward to the onslaught of ads to come and I’ll be glad when the process is over.
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  • susancnwsusancnw Curl Novice Posts: 1,374Registered Users Curl Novice
    AMEN! The first time my oldest son voted we went back and forth as to whether or not he was even going to vote...I told him that he WAS going to vote if I had to drag him in there and pull the lever for him...then he found conservativepunk.com and was reading another magazine for punk rockers. One of his fav columnists said the same thing I did...but much more crudely. Hey,whatever it takes!

    Middle son vote 2 yrs ago the first time and he and a bunch of friends actually got together, got the voter thing put out by the League of Women Voters, discussed the issues and candidates. Guess our discussions on responsible voting, being informed and educated, etc took root. Sometimes you wonder. Tomorrow our small city votes on collective bargaining and it's a mail in ballot. So when I voted a few weeks ago, I reminded him to fill it out and I'd mail it for him. I told him how he should vote - thanks mom for letting me make a decision! It's one issue son. Do you know what it is? I'll explain it prettily easily in one word.

    My oldest son told me a few weeks ago that he has to make a serious choice this time...he can't fool around. It literally is his life....he is in the Army and is reading all that he can. So I get to scout around (my bosses are in WY 40hr/week right now & there is just so much make do work), so I check out articles, websites, send him information, etc. It's good as it forces me to work harder at finding both sides out and digging deeper...and I'm not liking some of what I am seeing. I've never been a Hillary fan, but I think the Dem party was wrong on so many levels on the way they attacked her and pushed her. I don't like or trust her, but I have a sneaking admiration for the way she stood up against all of them.

    I honestly don't think that anyone expected obama to take off like it did. I think they were more like 'running it up the flagpole' to gauge his chances in 2016...not now. He just does not have the experience I expect in a president, nor the judgement. I heard the title of his book and thought, "the audacity and arrogance to think he can lead the only world superpower with less than 2 yrs national experience."

    And I KNOW someone around here is rolling their eyes and screaming bigot, racist, etc. He could be purple and I still wouldn't trust him, based on what I have read and know. BUT I am willing for someone to try to convince me.

    Ron Paul or Mitt Romney - I like Romney's business background. Let's face it, our nation is the biggest corporation in the world and needs to be run like a business. A MUCH smaller business,which is what I like about Ron Paul.

    Yep, wish we could take what we like and have a 'build a candidate'...hmmm....that could be a fun thread, ya know?
    My son wears combat boots (and a parachute). So does my son-in-law.
    The older I get, the less patience I have with cleverness. Thomas Sowell.
    Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. Benjamin Franklin.
    Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. Mark Twain.

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  • AngularScienceAngularScience Curl Neophyte Posts: 844Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I'm a fiscal conservative. While I like Barack's platform about social change, I am vehemently against the kind of government programs that he and Sen. Clinton promote. I'm not a fan of McCain's position on gay marriage, abortion, and the like, but I like the idea of having more choices and less government control. I'm unpopular amongst my friends for my beliefs (a friend of mine routinely attacks me for saying I believe in my freedoms of economic choice and choice in all areas, not just in marriage, etc., but in other ways as well), and under the severe minority here too.

    I'm sorry if this is coming off as a rant, but I'm sick of being told by people how dumb conservatives are, how liberals are saying they're open minded (but only if you think exactly the same as them), etc.

    I think part of the reason is that young people are usually supposed to be liberals. I go to an engineering school with lots of conservative boys; the only thing is, they may support conservative ideals, but they don't vote or get in arguments over it. The only people I've had badger me about my choices are liberals, even though I share the same social values, they don't understand how I could consider voting Republican or third party.
  • susancnwsusancnw Curl Novice Posts: 1,374Registered Users Curl Novice
    I think part of the reason is that young people are usually supposed to be liberals. I go to an engineering school with lots of conservative boys; the only thing is, they may support conservative ideals, but they don't vote or get in arguments over it. The only people I've had badger me about my choices are liberals, even though I share the same social values, they don't understand how I could consider voting Republican or third party.

    What's the saying? If you are not liberal when you are young, you don't have a heart. If you are not conservative by the time you are 40, you don't have a brain :D

    Yeah, I understand the badgering thing...I'm in CO, north of Boulder, major university in town...so it gets interesting. I've been flipped off by college students because of my bumper stickers. Been sworn at by drivers at a stoplight for same.

    I think we have a more 'live and let live' philosophy unless you are (as my 8 YO daughter put it), "in my personal space bubble".

    She used that phrase when explaining to me why she punched a boy on the arm at school.
    My son wears combat boots (and a parachute). So does my son-in-law.
    The older I get, the less patience I have with cleverness. Thomas Sowell.
    Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. Benjamin Franklin.
    Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. Mark Twain.

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  • AngularScienceAngularScience Curl Neophyte Posts: 844Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    susancnw wrote: »
    What's the saying? If you are not liberal when you are young, you don't have a heart. If you are not conservative by the time you are 40, you don't have a brain :D

    Yeah, I understand the badgering thing...I'm in CO, north of Boulder, major university in town...so it gets interesting. I've been flipped off by college students because of my bumper stickers. Been sworn at by drivers at a stoplight for same.

    I think we have a more 'live and let live' philosophy unless you are (as my 8 YO daughter put it), "in my personal space bubble".

    She used that phrase when explaining to me why she punched a boy on the arm at school.

    At least I know I have a brain. The funny thing is, when these people attack me for my beliefs, they think I'm not politically aware or educated at all! In reality, I know more about economics, politics, and the history of both than many of the people who attack me. My parents forced me into watching the news and reading newspapers since I was able to read; I'm a 20 year old who remembers watching Gulf War coverage and reading about Ross Perot, and I've always been a history buff. I wish those people would allow me my personal space bubble, lol.
  • susancnwsusancnw Curl Novice Posts: 1,374Registered Users Curl Novice
    (sigh) I know. I've been accused more times of 'quoting the party line'. We've not had anything but network in the house in almost a year (and we live in the mtns so even that is hard to pick up), I don't get a local paper (although I read it online).

    I'll admit that my computer homepage is set to Fox News, but I find a lot there that is not shown anywhere else. My sister has CNN so we sent 'newsflashes' back and forth. I do as much research as I can to stay informed. And yeah, I have a login to democraticunderground.com and HuffPo, but there is only one right-leaning website that I am on. I can count on the folks there to keep me informed on where I need to read or research, and they've been invaluable in my own life with questions on all sorts of things.

    I grew up being aware of current events to an extent - I was a Vietnam era kid, father who fought in Korea (and was seriously hurt). His father was in WWII...A very vivid memory that I have is when my dad came home from a business trip. By the time he got home he was still angry and upset. And it took a LOT to make my dad angry. He was coming through the airport and there was a young serviceman coming home. He was being yelled at, berated...you name it..he'd not yet been physically assaulted but who knows? Dad waded into the middle of the crowd and brought the young man out, escorted him to the baggage and out to a vehicle to go home. Dad was 6', maybe 175 lbs at the time...but he'd been a drill sgt and officer...he was pretty good at quelling a crowd with a look. He was still upset when he got home from the airport..this was Atlanta around 1970. I was 11 or so, and I can remember him telling mom about it at the table that night. As an adult, I find it interesting that the group was ready to go after this young serviceman when he was alone, but the instant someone else stepped up, they slunk off.

    I pay attention and have for years to what is going on around me. You're the same age as my 2nd son, and you two think similarly (I'll just say that the PETA group at the mall knows him and avoids him :wink:). I'm not allowed to voice my own thoughts, opinions, etc., but I have to be quiet and allow someone else to say what they want, name call all they want.

    I won't start an argument, I am genuinely interested in what someone else thinks, but if I'm attacked for what I believe, I will stand up for myself. But conservatives aren't supposed to do that.

    Found this today in the UK's Daily Mail. Interesting reading.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1026442/Dont-listen-liberals--Right-wingers-really-nicer-people-latest-research-shows.html
    My son wears combat boots (and a parachute). So does my son-in-law.
    The older I get, the less patience I have with cleverness. Thomas Sowell.
    Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. Benjamin Franklin.
    Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. Mark Twain.

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  • EllaElla Posts: 392Registered Users
    I don't know if I would call myself a full-fledged conservative, I tend towards being very conservative as far as taxation, government spending, and defense of this country, I'm more libertarian on social issues. I consider myself to be an independent, I've voted in the past for Republicans, Democrats, and third party candidates. That said, I have been put of by the behavior of Democrats/Liberals for the last several years. I have found many liberals to be extremely intolerant and nasty towards those who even slightly disagree with them. What is even more disturbing to me is the war on individualism that seems to come from the left, the belief that this country is great because of its government, not its people. It also scares me that Democrats don't seem to understand basic economics, when have sky high taxes on businesses led to a booming economy? Enough ranting:wink: I will be voting for John McCain in November, Democrats take note, you are not winning over us independents!
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  • ShrekLoverShrekLover Curl Neophyte Posts: 2,551Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Ella wrote: »
    I don't know if I would call myself a full-fledged conservative, I tend towards being very conservative as far as taxation, government spending, and defense of this country, I'm more libertarian on social issues. I consider myself to be an independent, I've voted in the past for Republicans, Demoscrats, and third party candidates. That said, I have been put of by the behavior of Democrats/Liberals for the last several years. I have found many liberals to be extremely intolerant and nasty towards those who even slightly disagree with them. What is even more disturbing to me is the war on individualism that seems to come from the left, the belief that this country is great because of its government, not its people. It also scares me that Democrats don't seem to understand basic economics, when have sky high taxes on businesses led to a booming economy? Enough ranting:wink: I will be voting for John McCain in November, Democrats take note, you are not winning over us independents!

    Amen to that! I don't know if you were around here during the last election, but this board was created to keep the nastiness in one place. Liberals seem to have no tolerance for anyone who believes differently than they do. But of course they consider themselves "tolerant" compared to conservatives. Makes no sense.

    ETA: Most conservatives/moderates post very little of their opinions on this board just for the reasons you stated. I think people will be shocked (again), when the election is held to find out how many people do not want to vote for a liberal.
  • EllaElla Posts: 392Registered Users
    sdc wrote: »
    I think people will be shocked (again), when the election is held to find out how many people do not want to vote for a liberal.

    Definitely! My friends and I probably seem like we would vote Democrat- socially pretty liberal, pot-smoking hippies (some :wink:) or pagans (literally) like me, clothing with skulls on it, sometimes hair dyed pink. Most of my friends are so put off by the mean-spriritedness of many liberals we encounter, we don't even enter into political discussions anymore, we smile, change the topic to something else, and decide we're not going to vote for anyone these smug, self-righteous control freaks want us to!
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  • notegalnotegal Posts: 560Registered Users
    psst... I'm a conservative...Neither candidate is right for us... I may vote for Ron Paul he's not two faced and doesn't change his tune everyday or second...alas...we'll see how he does. So far so good though he hasn't dropped out yet...
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  • susancnwsusancnw Curl Novice Posts: 1,374Registered Users Curl Novice
    Ella wrote: »
    sdc wrote: »
    Definitely! My friends and I probably seem like we would vote Democrat- socially pretty liberal, pot-smoking hippies (some :wink:) or pagans (literally) like me, clothing with skulls on it, sometimes hair dyed pink./quote]

    Until he enlisted, my oldest son had piercings, in to underground punk, all of it....and he's really conservative :D
    www.conservativepunk.com is a pretty good site.

    I'm more than willing to vote for a Democrat, but they have to prove themselves to me. I happened to like the woman that ran against Musgrave here in CO last time...she was very helpful with an issue earlier and I was willing to give her a listen. I checked up on her endorsers, supporters, etc. That pretty much put a screaming halt to that.

    <<I have found many liberals to be extremely intolerant and nasty towards those who even slightly disagree with them.

    Yep, you been reading here all right :wink: I've just been astounded at how the 'rights' of certain political groups trump the rights of the individual, or a their small business, etc. That one got nasty REALLY fast and I was accused of quoting the party line, etc. Apparently I can't think for myself (which is really new to my family)
    My son wears combat boots (and a parachute). So does my son-in-law.
    The older I get, the less patience I have with cleverness. Thomas Sowell.
    Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. Benjamin Franklin.
    Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. Mark Twain.

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  • ScarletScarlet Curl Neophyte Posts: 3,125Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    sdc wrote: »
    Ella wrote: »
    I don't know if I would call myself a full-fledged conservative, I tend towards being very conservative as far as taxation, government spending, and defense of this country, I'm more libertarian on social issues. I consider myself to be an independent, I've voted in the past for Republicans, Demoscrats, and third party candidates. That said, I have been put of by the behavior of Democrats/Liberals for the last several years. I have found many liberals to be extremely intolerant and nasty towards those who even slightly disagree with them. What is even more disturbing to me is the war on individualism that seems to come from the left, the belief that this country is great because of its government, not its people. It also scares me that Democrats don't seem to understand basic economics, when have sky high taxes on businesses led to a booming economy? Enough ranting:wink: I will be voting for John McCain in November, Democrats take note, you are not winning over us independents!

    Amen to that! I don't know if you were around here during the last election, but this board was created to keep the nastiness in one place. Liberals seem to have no tolerance for anyone who believes differently than they do. But of course they consider themselves "tolerant" compared to conservatives. Makes no sense.

    ETA: Most conservatives/moderates post very little of their opinions on this board just for the reasons you stated. I think people will be shocked (again), when the election is held to find out how many people do not want to vote for a liberal.

    That's exactly why I tend to stay out of the political discussions on the board.
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  • EllaElla Posts: 392Registered Users
    susancnw wrote: »
    www.conservativepunk.com is a pretty good site.

    I love that site although I hadn't visited there in a few years so thanks for reminding me about it! The Democrats/Liberals can line up all the celebrity supporters they like, they have forever lost the coolness sweepstakes as Johnny Ramone (the coolest human to walk the planet ever:cool:) was an ardent Reagan conservative!

    I don't often feel up to getting in political discussions on this board (or elsewhere really) cause I get tired of being called a right wing fundie Bible-thumper (which always makes me giggle, as I am a practicing Wiccan, aren't stereotypes grand :)) if I disagree one iota with anything in the liberal platform. I too would be willing to vote for a Democrat if you can explain it to me using logic, but don't beat me over the head with your "No Theocracy" sticker when you've got one promoting the Dalai Lama right next to it!
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  • JerseyCurlJerseyCurl Posts: 945Registered Users
    Count me in as well, although I consider myself more a Conservative Libertarian. :toothy7:
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  • JerseyCurlJerseyCurl Posts: 945Registered Users
    Ella wrote: »
    I don't know if I would call myself a full-fledged conservative, I tend towards being very conservative as far as taxation, government spending, and defense of this country, I'm more libertarian on social issues. I consider myself to be an independent, I've voted in the past for Republicans, Democrats, and third party candidates. That said, I have been put of by the behavior of Democrats/Liberals for the last several years. I have found many liberals to be extremely intolerant and nasty towards those who even slightly disagree with them. What is even more disturbing to me is the war on individualism that seems to come from the left, the belief that this country is great because of its government, not its people. It also scares me that Democrats don't seem to understand basic economics, when have sky high taxes on businesses led to a booming economy? Enough ranting:wink: I will be voting for John McCain in November, Democrats take note, you are not winning over us independents!
    Amen!:toothy7:
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  • susancnwsusancnw Curl Novice Posts: 1,374Registered Users Curl Novice
    JerseyCurl wrote: »
    Count me in as well, although I consider myself more a Conservative Libertarian. :toothy7:

    Good description for me too. I wish the Libertarian candidate here in town would run for mayor. Our current mayor is an idiot. I'd love to get the 'sanctuary city' label removed.
    My son wears combat boots (and a parachute). So does my son-in-law.
    The older I get, the less patience I have with cleverness. Thomas Sowell.
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  • AngularScienceAngularScience Curl Neophyte Posts: 844Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    My roommate is what most people would consider a fiscal conservative, too. She said something interesting to me the other day: "The definition of conservative has been really distorted in the last fifty years. Conservatives used to be those that did not want much government control over any aspect of life, especially social aspects, whereas now, a conservative is stereotyped as a Bible-thumping person who wants the government to control many aspects of life, especially social ones."

    She reminded me of a definition that a friend gave me of liberals versus conservatives many years ago: a conservative wants the government to control what goes on in people's bedrooms, but a liberal wants the government to control people's wallets.

    susancnw, that article you linked to was very interesting. I remember reading some article on the amount of money various presidential candidates donated to charity, and it seemed that the Republicans always donated more. The article you linked to placed liberals in a very poor light, but all the same, I often wonder how many libs put their money where their mouths are, no pun intended.
  • notegalnotegal Posts: 560Registered Users
    Ha! I don't agree with your definition though...kind of funny...More like it should read a conservative doesn't want the government taking over what's going on, but the liberals do want government control. TRUE Conservatives are not for rights of people being taken away. Liberals like to push the rights of our constitution taken away constantly for GOVERNMENT CONTROL, i.e., 2nd Amendment...one of many that get my blood boiling.... Basically a true conservative just wants the helping hand of the government NOT the whole government putting their nose where it just doesn't belong...another one is where you can and cannot smoke (gov. controls that too)...ah good old gov power...I'm not a smoker but I'm sure that gets many peoples minds thinking and their bloods boiling as well...
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  • susancnwsusancnw Curl Novice Posts: 1,374Registered Users Curl Novice
    My roommate is what most people would consider a fiscal conservative, too. She said something interesting to me the other day: "The definition of conservative has been really distorted in the last fifty years. Conservatives used to be those that did not want much government control over any aspect of life, especially social aspects, whereas now, a conservative is stereotyped as a Bible-thumping person who wants the government to control many aspects of life, especially social ones."

    She reminded me of a definition that a friend gave me of liberals versus conservatives many years ago: a conservative wants the government to control what goes on in people's bedrooms, but a liberal wants the government to control people's wallets.

    See, that is just sorta weird...aren't the liberals the ones that started bringing gays out as a 'minority' or whatever the term du jour is. Strikes me as they are the ones who started the bedroom peeping. When was the last time that sodomy laws were actually enforced in this nation?

    susancnw, that article you linked to was very interesting. I remember reading some article on the amount of money various presidential candidates donated to charity, and it seemed that the Republicans always donated more. The article you linked to placed liberals in a very poor light, but all the same, I often wonder how many libs put their money where their mouths are, no pun intended.

    I love the Daily Mail. Paper/tabloid, which makes it a fun read, but I find so many of the comments below the news articles telling...they're from real people like us and what they are going through. I've learned a lot about benefits and socialized medicine through them over the last few months. I've read a lot of articles over the disasters of the last few years concerning donations and most of them are from just regular folks, not the ones who are screaming to give everyone everything.

    I read an interesting column today by Mike Adams on Townhall.com. He's a criminology prof at NC Chapel Hill (I think). Former atheist, liberal, Democrat...very funny guy. But it's a really thoughtful comparison on the lack of looting compared between Katrina and the flooding in the Midwest. Interesting read and the comments have good give and take (the ones that aren't being childish that is, but there are always a few trolls on both sides). I heard an interview last week with the governor of Iowa and she said at the time that the shelters were almost empty. People were saying, no, let someone who really needs it go. We have family/friends, etc and we'll stay with them. The whole mindset is so very different.

    Personal opinion here so no one blast me, but I don't think NO being blown away would be such a great loss. It's got amazing history, architecture, food, culture, etc., but it has been such a sucking hole for so long....again, disclaimer that is just my opinion FWIW!
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  • notegalnotegal Posts: 560Registered Users
    susancnw wrote: »
    My roommate is what most people would consider a fiscal conservative, too. She said something interesting to me the other day: "The definition of conservative has been really distorted in the last fifty years. Conservatives used to be those that did not want much government control over any aspect of life, especially social aspects, whereas now, a conservative is stereotyped as a Bible-thumping person who wants the government to control many aspects of life, especially social ones."


    She reminded me of a definition that a friend gave me of liberals versus conservatives many years ago: a conservative wants the government to control what goes on in people's bedrooms, but a liberal wants the government to control people's wallets.

    See, that is just sorta weird...aren't the liberals the ones that started bringing gays out as a 'minority' or whatever the term du jour is. Strikes me as they are the ones who started the bedroom peeping. When was the last time that sodomy laws were actually enforced in this nation?

    Yes for the most part it is the libs because they want everyone to pay for them so they don't have to worry about a dime...woohoo! GO SOCIALISM!(I'm being sarcastic...)


    This is a little off topic, here's a perfect example of our youth and socialism....http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kc-1NvFiJVY
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  • AmandacurlsAmandacurls Curl Neophyte Posts: 6,252Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I am a conservative. I'm part of the right-wing conspiracy too, lol !:glasses9:

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