Naturally Curly Hair Routine & Regimen 101 for Newly Naturals

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  • NatrulyMeNatrulyMe Posts: 165Registered Users Curl Connoisseur


    Pattern: 3C/4A 
    Characteristics: (Spongy/Coarse/Curly Kinky)
    Porosity: High
    Density: Medium
    Hair Width: Medium Sized Strands
    Elasticity: Medium Elasticity

    SL - APL - BSL - MBL - WL - TBL

    My hair is armpit length when silk pressed (so close to BSL).
    Natural state: awkward stage; shoulder length (front is above chin length and back is almost shoulder length).
    Goal: MBL
    10-28-15 (BC Date)


  • NatrulyMeNatrulyMe Posts: 165Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
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    Two people may have the same curl pattern, but have hair that looks completely different because curl pattern is only one part of the hair type equation. The important factors are porosity, length, width, and density. Is your hair long or short, fine or coarse, thick or thin? - these will all drastically affect the way your hair looks and how it reacts to products.

    Source(s):

    https://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/learn/curly-hair-guide-whats-your-curl-pattern-hi/


    Pattern: 3C/4A 
    Characteristics: (Spongy/Coarse/Curly Kinky)
    Porosity: High
    Density: Medium
    Hair Width: Medium Sized Strands
    Elasticity: Medium Elasticity

    SL - APL - BSL - MBL - WL - TBL

    My hair is armpit length when silk pressed (so close to BSL).
    Natural state: awkward stage; shoulder length (front is above chin length and back is almost shoulder length).
    Goal: MBL
    10-28-15 (BC Date)


  • NatrulyMeNatrulyMe Posts: 165Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    What hair pattern Do I have? Or... What type of hair Do I have?

    This is the most common and frequently asked question. It is somewhat easy to tell on your own without asking others. You could shampoo a section of hair in the front and DC (Deep Condition) it. Then, shampoo again, condition...up to this point, feel free to comb through. Afterwards, rinse out the conditioner, use fingers only to comb through the section of hair and leave it alone. Take a snapshot (pic) of the section with the condition on it and without conditioner (rinse out and finger combed). You may see your true pattern. Also, sometimes our styling methods can affect how our hair in the front behaves, especially if we wear it pulled back a lot, so it may take time of leaving it alone to see what it really is like. In addition, some may just happen to have different textures on different parts of the head. I am no expert, but this is a suggestion to try if you really want to know your hair pattern(s).

    e.g. photos from longhaircare website/forum:


    First with conditioner:

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    And then rinsed out and finger combed to separate:

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    THIS IS A 4B PATTERN

    NOTICE:
    Once your hair is dry (or almost dry) with product(s), you will see your hair pattern.


    Pattern: 3C/4A 
    Characteristics: (Spongy/Coarse/Curly Kinky)
    Porosity: High
    Density: Medium
    Hair Width: Medium Sized Strands
    Elasticity: Medium Elasticity

    SL - APL - BSL - MBL - WL - TBL

    My hair is armpit length when silk pressed (so close to BSL).
    Natural state: awkward stage; shoulder length (front is above chin length and back is almost shoulder length).
    Goal: MBL
    10-28-15 (BC Date)


  • NatrulyMeNatrulyMe Posts: 165Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    We come in all shapes, sizes and colors... and our hair comes in all shapes, widths and textures. It is difficult to categorize hair based on curl pattern alone because of all the variation that occurs. However, attempts have been made to categorize in an effort to help people better know their hair.

    Black/afro-type hair is difficult to categorize for a few reasons:


    1) our hair differs in pattern - coils, springs. zig zags, s-curves

    2) our hair differs in pattern size - watch spring to chalk size

    3) our hair differs in density - sparse, dense

    4) our hair differs in strand diameter - fine, medium, coarse

    5) our hair differs in feel - cottony, spongy,silky,thready,wiry

    Strand Size/Diameter:

    To get the hair strand size, take a piece of sewing thread and unravel it into two pieces. Compare this to your hair. If the strand of hair is the same thickness as the thread then you have medium/normal size. If it’s thicker than the thread, you have a thick strand. If it’s thinner than the thread, you have a fine strand.

    Texture:

    Thready- hair has a low sheen, with a high shine while the hair is being held taught with low frizz. Wets easily but dries quickly.

    Wiry – has a sparkly sheen with low shine and low frizz. Water bounces or beads up on the hair strand. Hair never seems to get fully wet.

    Cottony – has a low sheen, a high shine if hair is held taut and has high frizz. Absorbs water quickly but does not get thoroughly wet very fast.

    Spongy – high sheen, with low shine with a compacted looking frizz. Absorbs water before it gets thoroughly wet.

    Silky – low sheen and very high shine with a lot or low frizz. Easily wets in water.

    The trick is to hold your hair taut when determining spongy vs cottony. So what does “sheen” & “shiny” mean? Sheen is a dull reflection of light like a luster, the hair sparkles as light bounces off of it. Shine has a sharp reflection of light (like the shine of straight hair or a shine of jewelry as an exaggeration). Here are two pictures of examples of sheen vs shine:

    This is hair w/ a SHEEN when held taut.

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    This is hair w/ SHINE when held taut.

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    Pattern:

    The letters LOIS describes the curl pattern if it in those shapes of the letters.

    L = I shaped strands (Hair has bends, right angles and folds with little to no curve)

    O = round circular coils (Strands looks like a slinky, spirals or zeros)

    I = straight with angular sharp bends (Hair lies mostly flat with no distinctive curve or bend)

    S = s curls (Hair shaped like the letter S, wavy looking)

    Porosity & Dew Point

    Porosity

    There is a great article which I found article written by Tonya McKay. She explains porosity and what it means in great detail. I’ll repost it in its entirety.

    Porosity is the term used in the science of hair care to describe how easily water and other matter can diffuse back and forth through the cuticle layer and into or out of the cortex. Hair is much like a sponge, capable of absorbing water and other substances from the environment, and also susceptible to losing precious moisture and lipids to the environment. Maintaining an optimal balance of moisture in your hair preserves its suppleness, strength, and shine. This is especially important for those of us with curly hair, as it greatly influences the health and beauty of our tresses.

    Porosity Classifications
    The individual scales of the cuticle overlap one another like the feathers of a bird or scales on a fish. This amazing system of flexible and responsive scales allows diffusion of oils and moisture into and out of the hair as needed. Porosity is determined by how tightly the cuticle scales adhere to the surface of the hair shaft and also by how thoroughly adjacent scales overlap one another.

    Low Porosity: Hair described as having low porosity is characterized by a very tightly bound cuticle layer, where the individual cuticle scales lie flat and overlap one another. Low porosity hair is often quite shiny, especially if it is a darker color. Overall this type of hair is considered to be quite healthy. If your hair repels water when you attempt to wet it, that is a good indication that it has low porosity. It can be quite difficult to process, because it resists penetration of the chemicals being used. Low porosity hair is more prone to an excessive accumulation of protein if deep conditioning products are used and will feel very stiff and straw-like. It requires products rich in moisture and emollients and also benefits most from products that contain humectants, which attract moisture to the hair and hold it there. If hair with very few or very small openings becomes dry for some reason, it can be more difficult to restore proper moisture balance to it. In this case, a deep conditioning treatment with moderate heat would be a good way to ensure the cuticle is sufficiently opened up to allow moisture to enter into the cortex.

    Normal Porosity: Hair possessing average porosity will generally require the least amount of maintenance. It allows moisture to pass into the cortex as needed, but resists permitting too much water to penetrate. Repeated works by various research groups have found that healthy hair of average porosity can absorb water up to a maximum of 31.1% by weight. Normal porosity hair has a tendency to hold styles well. Perming or coloring can be done in a predictable manner, following the usual guidelines of the product. However, one must note that these processes will damage the hair and increase its porosity over time. An occasional deep conditioning treatment with a protein-containing product will be of benefit, but proteins should not be included in the daily regimen.

    Opened highly porous cuticle

    High Porosity: High porosity is an unfortunate result of damage to the hair. Chemical processes, harsh treatment, and environmental exposure are all responsible for causing cumulative, irreversible damage to the cuticle layer. This damage creates gaps and holes in the surface of the hair shaft—essentially chinks in its armor. Hair with this type of uneven, pitted and rough surface is prone to damage from more and more sources, resulting in a cascade of effects that culminate in unmanageable and unlovely locks.

    Hair with a great deal of porosity has been found to be capable of absorbing significantly higher amounts of water than hair or normal or low porosity (up to 55%, in contrast with 31.1% for healthy hair). Excessive absorption of water from the atmosphere causes frizz and tangling on humid days. Total immersion of high porosity hair during bathing, swimming, or shampooing can lead to significant breakage due to loss of elasticity from the sheer weight of the water absorbed. It also takes on color much more quickly and in higher concentrations than normal porosity hair when undergoing a chemical color process.

    People with high porosity hair should use products with lots of moisturizers and emollients and also use anti-humectants in high heat and humidity climates in order to seal their cuticle against excessive absorption of moisture from the air. Protein treatments can also be very helpful for patching some of the holes in the hair, but one must follow up with moisturizing products in order to avoid a stiff texture. Rinsing with a slightly acidic rinse will help flatten and seal the cuticle. Some clear color applications have proteins in them than can patch the gaps in your hair also. Consult your professional hair stylist for more information about such products.

    Please Check Out This Website For More Great Info Here:

    What is your REAL hair type? (pic heavy) - Black Hair Media Forum - Page 1


    Pattern: 3C/4A 
    Characteristics: (Spongy/Coarse/Curly Kinky)
    Porosity: High
    Density: Medium
    Hair Width: Medium Sized Strands
    Elasticity: Medium Elasticity

    SL - APL - BSL - MBL - WL - TBL

    My hair is armpit length when silk pressed (so close to BSL).
    Natural state: awkward stage; shoulder length (front is above chin length and back is almost shoulder length).
    Goal: MBL
    10-28-15 (BC Date)


  • NatrulyMeNatrulyMe Posts: 165Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Porosity & Dew Point

    Links info concerning Dew Point:

    https://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/curl-products/humidity-humectants-and-the-dew-point/

    Humidity | CurlyNikki | Natural Hair Care
    Porosity is the term used in the science of hair care to describe how easily water and other matter can diffuse back and forth through the cuticle layer and into or out of the cortex. Hair is much like a sponge, capable of absorbing water and other substances from the environment, and also susceptible to losing precious moisture and lipids to the environment. Maintaining an optimal balance of moisture in your hair preserves its suppleness, strength, and shine. This is especially important for those of us with curly hair, as it greatly influences the health and beauty of our tresses.

    -Written By Tonya McKay

    Porosity Hair & Regimen

    Again, What does Low, Medium & high, porosity hair mean?

    Low Porosity Hair & Regimen

    Low Porosity means your cuticles are tight and pretty resistant to opening up for water and moisture. This is more than likely due to genetics. Does it usually feel like products you apply are just sitting on top of your hair? Your hair doesn’t readily absorb products; hence its inability to retain the moisture and shine your hair needs. The strand stayed at the top of the glass because water couldn’t get inside of it to make it sink. The tricky part of having low porosity hair is how well it can actually hold moisture once inside, but getting it inside is the key! Beware of products with a low pH because high acidity works to keep the cuticle closed. In other words, they won’t help your case! Look for products using more alkaline ingredients that will help lift your cuticles. Regular baking soda treatments (Google: Cherry Lola Treatment) or products containing glycerin may help improve moisture levels. Granted, many naturals have issues with both ingredients so test them out for your particular hair type and see if they help! Try avoiding products loaded with oils, as oils serve as sealants for the cuticle and may work against your efforts to lift them. Steamers are great tools for aiding with cuticle lifting, as well. And when applying products, make sure your hair is damp, as you’ll need all the moisture you can get!

    LOW POROSITY RECOMMENDATIONS

    If you hair with low porosity, or it’s considered resistant, you can help infuse moisture into the hair by:

    1) Incorporating a steamer into your hair care regimen
    2) Using humectant rich products to draw moisture to the hair, especially in humid climates
    3) Soak the hair in alkaline water for a few minutes just to slightly increase the pH of the hair, thus opening the cuticle more and infusing more moisture into the strand.

    Normal Porosity Hair & Regimen

    What does normal porosity hair mean? It’s pretty self-explanatory! It means your strands allow for easy moisture inside the cuticle. This range tends to take color and perms better than the other two. And will also hold moisture and shine for a longer period of time. It’s essentially considered a very desirable and low maintenance hair type. However, be aware that regular chemical processes, including heat, can change the hair’s porosity over time. Healthier ingredients, regular deep conditioning, moisturizing and little to no heat regimens will help keep normal porosity strands at optimum health.


    High Porosity Hair & Regimen

    High Porosity means your cuticles have been exposed to a severe amount of damage. It can be a result of genetics, over manipulation, heat usage, or chemical processing. Does your hair seem to stay wet for a long time? Or do your strands feel as though as quickly as they absorb moisture from your products is as quickly as they lose it? Your strand sank to the bottom of the glass because of the gaps and large openings, allowing for the entrance of more water, all throughout the cuticle. Thicker butters and products with more oils are helpful for this hair type as they will seal the cuticle and even serve as a protective layer. You want to use things with a low pH, which are acidic, and will help tighten the open cuticle. Sealing with pure Aloe Vera after applying your leave-in will be extremely helpful. A regular apple cider vinegar rinse, diluted with 2 cups of water, will also help detoxify any pollution (from being so openly vulnerable to the elements) and help seal the cuticle. Protein treatments are also recommended to temporarily patch the gaps. The truth is, there is no repairing overly porous hair. These regimens will help make it more manageable but regular trims, so you can focus on the new growth, and a major halt in the use of heat and chemicals will be key.

    HIGH POROSITY RECOMMENDATIONS
    If you have high porous hair, you want to make sure you are:

    1) Deep conditioning hair to help seal damaged spots on the cuticle surface
    2) Sealing hair with oil or silicone based product to help prevent moisture from escaping your hair
    3) Incorporate an Apple Cider Vinegar rinse every now and then to lower the ph of hair which will help to close cuticles tighter and trap moisture in


    Pattern: 3C/4A 
    Characteristics: (Spongy/Coarse/Curly Kinky)
    Porosity: High
    Density: Medium
    Hair Width: Medium Sized Strands
    Elasticity: Medium Elasticity

    SL - APL - BSL - MBL - WL - TBL

    My hair is armpit length when silk pressed (so close to BSL).
    Natural state: awkward stage; shoulder length (front is above chin length and back is almost shoulder length).
    Goal: MBL
    10-28-15 (BC Date)


  • NatrulyMeNatrulyMe Posts: 165Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
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    Curly Girl Method - What is it?

    The curly girl method was invented by Lorraine Massey (The inventor of DevaCurl) and it is a method in which you go SHAMPOO FREE to give your curls some ultra moisture. Instead of shampooing you cowash (wash your scalp with conditioner) and you condition and style your hair with silicone free and sulfate free products.

    YouTube Video Link About The Curly Girl Method:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwvBdHgl96E

    Links:

    https://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/no-poo/the-curly-girl-method-for-coily-hair/

    3 Ways to Follow the Curly Girl Method for Curly Hair - wikiHow

    How to Follow the Curly Girl Method | Natural Hair Rules!!!

    BUY THE CURLY GIRL HANDBOOK:
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    SILICONE FREE GELS:
    LA looks: http://amzn.to/2syV1t7
    ECO styler: http://amzn.to/2tRG21n
    DevaCurl: http://amzn.to/2sz6vg8

    SILICONE FREE CONDITIONERS:
    DevaCurl no poo: http://amzn.to/2tVBeYA

    TO FIND SILICONE FREE CONDITIONERS CLICK HERE:

    https://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/home/top-20-silicone-free-daily-conditioners/

    7 Drugstore Shampoos and Conditioners that are Silicone and Sulfate Free | Black Girl with Long Hair

    7 Silicone-Free Conditioners That Will Give you Sexual Hair Days Forever and Ever

    CLICK HERE TO CHECK YOUR PRODUCTS FOR SILICONES:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVZ7r2_p4MM

    How to Determine if a Hair Product is Curly Girl Approved: 6 Steps


    Pattern: 3C/4A 
    Characteristics: (Spongy/Coarse/Curly Kinky)
    Porosity: High
    Density: Medium
    Hair Width: Medium Sized Strands
    Elasticity: Medium Elasticity

    SL - APL - BSL - MBL - WL - TBL

    My hair is armpit length when silk pressed (so close to BSL).
    Natural state: awkward stage; shoulder length (front is above chin length and back is almost shoulder length).
    Goal: MBL
    10-28-15 (BC Date)


  • spirallyyoursspirallyyours Posts: 69Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Thank you for posting all of this information. I was afraid of posting on this thread because of the fear of "ruining" it but I really believe that this information is important should be stickied to the top. All curl types should be aware of this information honestly but seeing someone with a similar texture to their taking the time out of their day to post so much information with the hope that they'll be able to grow is touching. I have noticed the same thing you have NatrulyMe and I hope we can see more seasoned type 4 naturals on this site again. I've received plenty of help from people with looser textures than mine because of their understanding of the concepts highlighted in this thread and I think everyone should have this knowledge in their arsenal.
    3B with a little 3C mixed in. My hair's porosity is on the low, low. Fine, medium density. Finally reached shoulder length!

    :wav:
  • NatrulyMeNatrulyMe Posts: 165Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Thank you for posting all of this information. I was afraid of posting on this thread because of the fear of "ruining" it but I really believe that this information is important should be stickied to the top. All curl types should be aware of this information honestly but seeing someone with a similar texture to their taking the time out of their day to post so much information with the hope that they'll be able to grow is touching. I have noticed the same thing you have NatrulyMe and I hope we can see more seasoned type 4 naturals on this site again. I've received plenty of help from people with looser textures than mine because of their understanding of the concepts highlighted in this thread and I think everyone should have this knowledge in their arsenal.

    Thank you, I appreciate your response. :thumright: Do not be afraid...lol. Seriously, I just felt some may feel that this website & forum are not useful because of the lack knowledge from others. Also, there are not many active 3Cs-4Cs posting here these days. In all honesty, I do feel comfortable from getting knowledge and or info from those with the same (or almost the same) hair pattern, etc. Now, I am not saying other races does not have knowledge--Yet, they do not know the exact struggles of those with 3c-4c type of hair (& vice versa).

    Anyways, I do not come to this website often any more. I joined another website for learning and support. The ladies there are so encouraging and supportive. Also, they have several threads (challenges) to help grow healthy and long hair. I wish this site was for me, but it is not (many old school or newly naturals aren't posting on a regular). Still, I will check back here every now and then... Again, thank you. Hugs. :) BTW, you can post images, etc here with more info to help others if you feel I am missing any. This thread is for everybody.


    Pattern: 3C/4A 
    Characteristics: (Spongy/Coarse/Curly Kinky)
    Porosity: High
    Density: Medium
    Hair Width: Medium Sized Strands
    Elasticity: Medium Elasticity

    SL - APL - BSL - MBL - WL - TBL

    My hair is armpit length when silk pressed (so close to BSL).
    Natural state: awkward stage; shoulder length (front is above chin length and back is almost shoulder length).
    Goal: MBL
    10-28-15 (BC Date)


  • NatrulyMeNatrulyMe Posts: 165Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
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    ‘’Your natural curls are stunning works of art exactly as they grow from your head.’’ – Teri LaFlesh creator of The Tightly Curly Method.

    The Tightly Curly Method is said to keep your curls healthy, hydrated and hang better, making them easier to manage. Teri also has a book available with instructions and useful info for how to best take care of tightly curly hair.


    There are seven basic steps to follow to make our hair healthy and happy:

    Cleanse, Condition, Comb, Define, Dry, Protect and Refresh...

    More Info Here:

    Curly Primer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gwRVX7YzRw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyM2_6frDGI

    Link To Her Book:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/047053642X?ie=UTF8&tag=birhaiubecurh-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=047053642X


    What are the similarity & difference between Tightly Curly Method (TC) & Curly Girl Method (CG)?

    Similarity
    Co-wash
    Use A Diffuser/Blow Dryer
    Fingers Detangler
    Conditioner
    Oils


    Difference
    CG Method: Does not use Silicones
    TC Method: You can use Silicones
    TC Method: You can use a Detangler Brush
    CG Method: Fingers detangler only
    CG Method: You can use gel
    TC Method: No gel
    CG Method: No shampoo
    TC Method: You can use Shampoo
    TC Method: You Separate and finger coil (depending on your hair type)
    CG Method: You do not separate and finger coil


    Pattern: 3C/4A 
    Characteristics: (Spongy/Coarse/Curly Kinky)
    Porosity: High
    Density: Medium
    Hair Width: Medium Sized Strands
    Elasticity: Medium Elasticity

    SL - APL - BSL - MBL - WL - TBL

    My hair is armpit length when silk pressed (so close to BSL).
    Natural state: awkward stage; shoulder length (front is above chin length and back is almost shoulder length).
    Goal: MBL
    10-28-15 (BC Date)


  • NatrulyMeNatrulyMe Posts: 165Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Bump


    Pattern: 3C/4A 
    Characteristics: (Spongy/Coarse/Curly Kinky)
    Porosity: High
    Density: Medium
    Hair Width: Medium Sized Strands
    Elasticity: Medium Elasticity

    SL - APL - BSL - MBL - WL - TBL

    My hair is armpit length when silk pressed (so close to BSL).
    Natural state: awkward stage; shoulder length (front is above chin length and back is almost shoulder length).
    Goal: MBL
    10-28-15 (BC Date)


  • Guide 65Guide 65 Posts: 1,984Registered Users, Moderators Curl Virtuoso
    Thank you for gathering all this information together @NatrulyMe.  As a wavy, I'm hesitant to offer suggestions to the type 4 people here.  There's differences in the hair and in the proper care of hair - some I'm aware of, and I'm sure there's lots that I'm unaware of.  I don't want to suggest things that might be appropriate for my hair but may be damaging to others' hair.  I wish that there were more active type 4 people here.  
    Formerly known as Janiegirl
    2B/2C, fine hair, low density, mixed porosity, protein loving hair
    Current products:
    Changing up my shampoos because I can't find one I like
    Deva Curl One Condition (original formula)
    Innersense I Create Volume
    Deva Curl Ultra Defining Gel
  • NatrulyMeNatrulyMe Posts: 165Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    edited July 2018
    Guide 65 said:
    Thank you for gathering all this information together @NatrulyMe.  As a wavy, I'm hesitant to offer suggestions to the type 4 people here.  There's differences in the hair and in the proper care of hair - some I'm aware of, and I'm sure there's lots that I'm unaware of.  I don't want to suggest things that might be appropriate for my hair but may be damaging to others' hair.  I wish that there were more active type 4 people here.  
    Exactly. I agree. You are welcome.  :smiley:


    Pattern: 3C/4A 
    Characteristics: (Spongy/Coarse/Curly Kinky)
    Porosity: High
    Density: Medium
    Hair Width: Medium Sized Strands
    Elasticity: Medium Elasticity

    SL - APL - BSL - MBL - WL - TBL

    My hair is armpit length when silk pressed (so close to BSL).
    Natural state: awkward stage; shoulder length (front is above chin length and back is almost shoulder length).
    Goal: MBL
    10-28-15 (BC Date)


  • Guide 65Guide 65 Posts: 1,984Registered Users, Moderators Curl Virtuoso
    @Gretchen- can we pin this to the top?  There's so much great information here, I think it would be helpful to keep it visible.
    Formerly known as Janiegirl
    2B/2C, fine hair, low density, mixed porosity, protein loving hair
    Current products:
    Changing up my shampoos because I can't find one I like
    Deva Curl One Condition (original formula)
    Innersense I Create Volume
    Deva Curl Ultra Defining Gel
  • NatrulyMeNatrulyMe Posts: 165Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Guide 65 said:
    @Gretchen- can we pin this to the top?  There's so much great information here, I think it would be helpful to keep it visible.

    Yes. :smiley:


    Pattern: 3C/4A 
    Characteristics: (Spongy/Coarse/Curly Kinky)
    Porosity: High
    Density: Medium
    Hair Width: Medium Sized Strands
    Elasticity: Medium Elasticity

    SL - APL - BSL - MBL - WL - TBL

    My hair is armpit length when silk pressed (so close to BSL).
    Natural state: awkward stage; shoulder length (front is above chin length and back is almost shoulder length).
    Goal: MBL
    10-28-15 (BC Date)


  • GretchenGretchen Administrator Posts: 10,840Moderators Curl Virtuoso
    YOu got it. 

    Gretchen
    NaturallyCurly.com co-founder
    3A

    You are beautiful!
  • NatrulyMeNatrulyMe Posts: 165Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    edited September 2018
    UPDATE:
               I reached my goal of shoulder length (when stretched and or straighten). Actually, I am touching collarbone length. My new goal is to reach bra strap length by next Summer. :)

    Before (Big Chopped; 10-28-15)



    Middle (Middle phrases) I do not know the dates.




    Presently (07-18-18) Nevermind the grey hair strings!! lol 


    08/2018





    Pattern: 3C/4A 
    Characteristics: (Spongy/Coarse/Curly Kinky)
    Porosity: High
    Density: Medium
    Hair Width: Medium Sized Strands
    Elasticity: Medium Elasticity

    SL - APL - BSL - MBL - WL - TBL

    My hair is armpit length when silk pressed (so close to BSL).
    Natural state: awkward stage; shoulder length (front is above chin length and back is almost shoulder length).
    Goal: MBL
    10-28-15 (BC Date)


  • GretchenGretchen Administrator Posts: 10,840Moderators Curl Virtuoso
    Congratulations @NatrulyMe!  Your hair is looking gorgeous! 

    Gretchen
    NaturallyCurly.com co-founder
    3A

    You are beautiful!
  • NatrulyMeNatrulyMe Posts: 165Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Gretchen said:
    Congratulations @NatrulyMe!  Your hair is looking gorgeous! 
    Thank you, Gretchen. :)

    I will be in rejoice when my  hair grows to my shoulder with my Wash & Go...Yet, "patience is a virtue". 


    Pattern: 3C/4A 
    Characteristics: (Spongy/Coarse/Curly Kinky)
    Porosity: High
    Density: Medium
    Hair Width: Medium Sized Strands
    Elasticity: Medium Elasticity

    SL - APL - BSL - MBL - WL - TBL

    My hair is armpit length when silk pressed (so close to BSL).
    Natural state: awkward stage; shoulder length (front is above chin length and back is almost shoulder length).
    Goal: MBL
    10-28-15 (BC Date)


  • CarnitasolCarnitasol Posts: 5Registered Users, Curl Ambassador Curl Neophyte
    HELP ME FIND MY HAIR TYPE PLEASE
    COMMENT ASAP
  • NatrulyMeNatrulyMe Posts: 165Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    edited October 2018
    HELP ME FIND MY HAIR TYPE PLEASE
    COMMENT ASAP
    I am not really sure, but your hair pattern (or type) looks to be 3C (maybe mix with some 4A..Or...4A/4B)? Just guessing because I do not know your hair characteristics. Also, your hair needs to grow out some...


    Pattern: 3C/4A 
    Characteristics: (Spongy/Coarse/Curly Kinky)
    Porosity: High
    Density: Medium
    Hair Width: Medium Sized Strands
    Elasticity: Medium Elasticity

    SL - APL - BSL - MBL - WL - TBL

    My hair is armpit length when silk pressed (so close to BSL).
    Natural state: awkward stage; shoulder length (front is above chin length and back is almost shoulder length).
    Goal: MBL
    10-28-15 (BC Date)


  • NatrulyMeNatrulyMe Posts: 165Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    edited October 2018
    Update: Yesterday, Oct. 28th (2018) was my 3rd year of being natural (anniversary). I decided to silk press my hair for the first time since being natural. 
    BEFORE: My hair in its natural state (Plait out hair style)



    AFTER: After getting my air Silk Pressed (straighten with a flat iron)





    Pattern: 3C/4A 
    Characteristics: (Spongy/Coarse/Curly Kinky)
    Porosity: High
    Density: Medium
    Hair Width: Medium Sized Strands
    Elasticity: Medium Elasticity

    SL - APL - BSL - MBL - WL - TBL

    My hair is armpit length when silk pressed (so close to BSL).
    Natural state: awkward stage; shoulder length (front is above chin length and back is almost shoulder length).
    Goal: MBL
    10-28-15 (BC Date)


  • Guide 65Guide 65 Posts: 1,984Registered Users, Moderators Curl Virtuoso
    WOW, I never would have guessed your hair was that long!  I really like the curly hair better, but you look good with straight hair too!  What is a silk press, and how is it different than a regular straightening?
    Formerly known as Janiegirl
    2B/2C, fine hair, low density, mixed porosity, protein loving hair
    Current products:
    Changing up my shampoos because I can't find one I like
    Deva Curl One Condition (original formula)
    Innersense I Create Volume
    Deva Curl Ultra Defining Gel
  • NatrulyMeNatrulyMe Posts: 165Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    edited October 2018
    Guide 65 said:
    WOW, I never would have guessed your hair was that long!  I really like the curly hair better, but you look good with straight hair too!  What is a silk press, and how is it different than a regular straightening?
    Hi, guide 65. It was a shock to myself too. lol. Thanks. Yes, I like my hair better in its natural state as well, but silk press is okay for occasions (I do not think I will be silk pressing my hair often--only once a year). Anyways, silk press is almost the same as getting your hair straighten with a relaxer, but without chemicals.

    What is A Silk Press?

    A silk press is a modern day press and or curl that gives natural hair the look like it has been relaxed. It allows the natural hair to be very straight, shiny, silky, soft, and most importantly the hair has a lot of body and movement.  It is for natural hair only because relaxed hair is already straight so the need to press it is not necessary (unless you stretch your relaxers and want to press your new growth to match your relaxed hair).  A silk press on relaxed hair is just a flat iron.  Unlike a traditional press and curl, a silk press does not use a hot comb at all.  Instead, a very good blow dryer and flat iron is used.  Also, absolutely no hair grease (and or oil) is used with a silk press, although a light oil can be used to add shine without weighing the hair down. The basics of silk pressing your own hair do involve shampooing, conditioning, blow drying, and flat ironing the hair.

    You can get a silk press done by a professional at a hair salon and or do it yourself at home (my twin sister did mine--she's natural too).

    How to silk press your hair:

    1. Shampoo your hair (use a good cleanser)
    2. Condition your hair (deep condition your hair after shampooing, rinse out after 15-30 mins. Then, apply a leave-in condition and light oil on your hair)
    3. Blow dry your hair (I prefer to braid, plait and or twist my hair up in sections after step 1-2 and let it dry over night. Next day, I take a section down and blow dry it one section at a time)
    4. Flat iron your hair (I gently detangle a section of my hair with a wide tooth comb from end to root of a section. Also, I apply a small amount (dime size or quarterly) of heat protectant for natural hair (I used CHI) on the detangled section. Then, I use a small rat tail comb to part a small section of the hair within the section and flat iron the section (the smallest section of the big section) along using the rat tail comb slowly straighten my hair going downward. Repeat doing this by parting from each group of section hair that already been detangle and applied with heat protectant until done silk pressing. Start over step 3-4 for each section of hair (the hair that's been twisted, plaited and or braided). That's it. 
    More info found here:

    https://www.latoyajonesblog.com/2018/05/how-to-do-your-own-silk-press-like-pro.html

    http://www.latoyajonesblog.com/2014/02/what-is-silk-press.html

    NOTICE

    A silk press will last approximately 1-3 weeks. Please, be careful when doing it yourself that you do not burn and or damage your hair. Your hair should be back to its natural state after a week or two when you shampoo your hair again. I recommend to shampoo and or use Bentonite clay with ACV to get hair back to its natural curl pattern (along with deep conditioning the hair--step 1-2). 




    Pattern: 3C/4A 
    Characteristics: (Spongy/Coarse/Curly Kinky)
    Porosity: High
    Density: Medium
    Hair Width: Medium Sized Strands
    Elasticity: Medium Elasticity

    SL - APL - BSL - MBL - WL - TBL

    My hair is armpit length when silk pressed (so close to BSL).
    Natural state: awkward stage; shoulder length (front is above chin length and back is almost shoulder length).
    Goal: MBL
    10-28-15 (BC Date)


  • GretchenGretchen Administrator Posts: 10,840Moderators Curl Virtuoso
    Wow! That's a lot of length that's all bundled up in those gorgeous curls. Thanks for sharing.... and I agree.... while we love our natural hair, it's ok and fun to mix it up once in a while.  We curlyheads are lucky we have that option! 

    Gretchen
    NaturallyCurly.com co-founder
    3A

    You are beautiful!
  • tosin_21tosin_21 Posts: 1Registered Users, Curl Ambassador Curl Neophyte
    I am tired of my hair. I just discovered I am a 4c type. I don’t know product to use any more. It seems hair isn’t not growing. I have used curls products and it’s just a mess. I am a new natural and really thinking of going bald.
    Help!!!
  • Guide 65Guide 65 Posts: 1,984Registered Users, Moderators Curl Virtuoso
    @tosin_21, welcome to CurlTalk!

    My hair is the complete opposite of yours, but there's great info right in this thread, and tons more throughout this site.  Do some reading and give some of these techniques a try.  Have you tried the Curly Girl Method?  It really helps to get your hair in a good, well-moisturized condition, and then it should curl better and grow better. 
    Formerly known as Janiegirl
    2B/2C, fine hair, low density, mixed porosity, protein loving hair
    Current products:
    Changing up my shampoos because I can't find one I like
    Deva Curl One Condition (original formula)
    Innersense I Create Volume
    Deva Curl Ultra Defining Gel
  • NatrulyMeNatrulyMe Posts: 165Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    edited April 26
    tosin_21 said:
    I am tired of my hair. I just discovered I am a 4c type. I don’t know product to use any more. It seems hair isn’t not growing. I have used curls products and it’s just a mess. I am a new natural and really thinking of going bald.
    Help!!!
    Hi, welcome to CurlTalk.
                                            Sorry for the delay in responding. I know it can be a bit overwhelming, but breath... It's going to be alright!! Question. Do you have a routine for your hair? What oils do you use? Do you deep conditioned & or protein treat hair?--How often? & Do you maintain your hair in protective styles? I know these are a lot of questions, but it could play a big role while your hair stunts from growth.  :/

    ABOUT HAIR GROWTH:

    Hair grows at an average rate of ½ inch per month. Black and or minority people's hair can sometimes grow a bit slower than this, but not much. Actually, the natural curly pattern of black hair can make it seem to grow more slowly because it is not stretched.

    In addition, stress, illnesses (e.g. Vitamin D Deficiency) and not maintaining a healthy lifestyle (diet and exercise) could play a big role too. Also, it depends on your ancestry (genetics) and hormonal state (pregnant women grow hair a bit faster; it’s also thicker and shinier), your hair will grow at a higher or lower rate.

    BTW, you do not have to buy expensive hair products to maintain natural hair (unless hair loss is due to illnesses such as ringworm and alopecia). 


    Pattern: 3C/4A 
    Characteristics: (Spongy/Coarse/Curly Kinky)
    Porosity: High
    Density: Medium
    Hair Width: Medium Sized Strands
    Elasticity: Medium Elasticity

    SL - APL - BSL - MBL - WL - TBL

    My hair is armpit length when silk pressed (so close to BSL).
    Natural state: awkward stage; shoulder length (front is above chin length and back is almost shoulder length).
    Goal: MBL
    10-28-15 (BC Date)


  • NatrulyMeNatrulyMe Posts: 165Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    edited April 26

    THE IMPORTANCE OF STRETCHING TYPE 3C-4 HAIR


    What does "stretching" your hair mean?

    Natural hair tends to have a lot of shrinkage, meaning that due to the coils and bends in your hair, it draws tighter to your scalp. When you pull your hair, or straighten your hair, it stretches the texture to show its actual length. Stretching your natural hair means that you are styling your hair in a manner that you eliminate some of the shrinkage in your hair, thus eliminating a lot of knots and tangles. More importantly-- stretched styles eliminate a lot of dryness with your texture because you are able to smooth products into the cuticle of the hair from roots to ends and allow it to set vs just plopping some product on top of your fro and neglecting all of the coils and curls underneath.

    Many naturals neglect to understand the importance of stretching for their texture and want to take the easy way out: a wash and go. My general rule of thumb is that if your hair shrinks down to even 25% less than when you pull it, you should wear stretched styles more often than wash and go styles. 




    What are some stretched styles you can wear?

    Stretched styles are any styles in which your hair is not allowed to dry in its natural texture, but is allowed to dry with a somewhat stretched texture. **This does NOT mean that you have to apply heat to your hair or blow dry it out. Twist outs, braid outs, twist and rod sets, cornrows, updos, blow outs, flat ironed styles etc. are all examples of stretched styles that will eliminate a lot of tangles and dryness for your hair. (Be careful with any styles that involve heat).**Bantu knots and rod sets are protective styles, but technically not stretched as these styles typically tighten the texture of the hair.

     The Benefits of Stretching Type 4 Hair:

    **More Info HERE**

    https://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/coils/the-benefits-of-stretching-type-4-hair


    Is stretching your hair bad

    There are several reasons why overstretching or wearing your hair up in the same style too often is a bad idea, but let’s get into what safe and excessive stretching are first. Hair elasticity measures the strength of the hair strand and the ability of it to stretch without breaking and going back to its original state. Healthy hair is elastic with a healthy cortex (cortex is the strength bearing part of hair). According to The Natural Haven, low levels of stretching are just fine but excessive stretching or stretching hair over the safe limit (20-30% of the strand) can damage the hair’s cuticle. Excessive stretching can be wearing overly tight buns, ponytails, braids, or other updos and protective styles, especially with hair bands and extensions. Many are cautious about chemical and thermal damage but overlook the effects of mechanical damage. That part of your hair that seems stretched permanently may be where your bun is pulled the most and has the most damage.Try not to stretch or wear wet hair up and change up your go-to style.

    **More Info HERE**

    5 Essential Natural Hair Tips To Prevent Breakage:

    **More Info HERE**

    https://www.fashionghana.com/site/5-essential-natural-hair-tips-to-prevent-breakage/






    Pattern: 3C/4A 
    Characteristics: (Spongy/Coarse/Curly Kinky)
    Porosity: High
    Density: Medium
    Hair Width: Medium Sized Strands
    Elasticity: Medium Elasticity

    SL - APL - BSL - MBL - WL - TBL

    My hair is armpit length when silk pressed (so close to BSL).
    Natural state: awkward stage; shoulder length (front is above chin length and back is almost shoulder length).
    Goal: MBL
    10-28-15 (BC Date)


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