Massage causing hair loss?

Hi all,
I found this site recently and began the CG method approx 3 weeks ago. I have noticed that my hair is shinier, more moisturised and easier to manage since then. However, I read a post on here that said it´s important to really massage/rub the scalp to make sure it´s clean. Unfortunately I did this with shampoo on my last poo wash and handfuls of hair fell out from where I rubbed my scalp (i.e. from one spot!). I read that massaging oils into the scalp should be good for hair growth so I massaged coconut and almond oil into my scalp and left overnight. The next day I had a shower and combed my hair and 80 hairs fell out! It also looked like a clump of hairs fell out, though there is no bald spot on my head. My hair is noticeably thinner now and I´m really worried and upset. I´m going to try to go to a dermatologist about this now, but I´m wondering if the massaging could be to blame? I didn´t massage hard. I was gentle and only used the pads of my fingers.
I´m really depressed about this now. Has anybody experienced or heard of something similar happening?
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I found this site recently and began the CG method approx 3 weeks ago. I have noticed that my hair is shinier, more moisturised and easier to manage since then. However, I read a post on here that said it´s important to really massage/rub the scalp to make sure it´s clean. Unfortunately I did this with shampoo on my last poo wash and handfuls of hair fell out from where I rubbed my scalp (i.e. from one spot!). I read that massaging oils into the scalp should be good for hair growth so I massaged coconut and almond oil into my scalp and left overnight. The next day I had a shower and combed my hair and 80 hairs fell out! It also looked like a clump of hairs fell out, though there is no bald spot on my head. My hair is noticeably thinner now and I´m really worried and upset. I´m going to try to go to a dermatologist about this now, but I´m wondering if the massaging could be to blame? I didn´t massage hard. I was gentle and only used the pads of my fingers.
I´m really depressed about this now. Has anybody experienced or heard of something similar happening?
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Have you combed/brushed your hair less after going CG or have you had an updo/protective style for a few days? In this case you would loose the strands all at once you would for have normally lost during this period of time. Sometimes people panic when they loose more hair when they wash their hair after for ex. twists.
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Massaging doesn't cause new hair growth for those who are thinning but it's not bad for you either.
I thought i posted already but I can't find my post. Anyway, I've been cowashing for 4 months and it has thinned out my hair very noticeably. I think it may have something to do w/ the manual friction of cowashing combined with the softening of the roots from the conditioner. But it could be other things as well, like my scalp not agreeing with a particular ingredient in the cowash I've been using. I think the thinning is caused by excess shedding. I stopped cowashing and have been low-pooing and already I'm seeing SIGNIFICANTLY less shedding in the shower.
I can't offer a lot of advice as I newly realized how much it has thinned my hair, and I'm also trying to figure out myself. But I feel ya.
This is my thread: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/general-discussion-about-curly-hair/158211-bad-news-cowashing-thinning-my-hair.html
You might want to look into this also>
Excessive Shedding: Could Co-Washing Be the Culprit? | hairscapades
So I trimmed my hair a little to short. So I decided to buy JBCO mixed with Jojoba oil. I have been massaging it into my scalp 3xs a week. While massaging I would notice a lot of hair falling. Im definetely noticing hair thinning. I use Giovanni Tea Tree Shampoo. Im thinking its the massages that's causing my hair lose. Im so confused. My hair feels so soft and shiny but I've noticed Im losing my baby hairs in the front. Please help.. Im so upset and worried.
Maybe it's more an issue of an ingredient the hair doesn't like or a health issue?
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It's very important to anyone who experiences thinning hair (especially acute, as in within 6 or 4 months) to visit a derm right away. Whatever the problem can be....whether it is hormonal, related to stress, diet, a change in health or something you are doing to your hair (products, manipulation etc) a derm will help you narrow it down and may be able to prescribe a solution. Self-diagnosing can actually be more damaging. Putting off getting a professional opinion can be harmful as your hair may continue to thin and your health (if problem is health related) may worsen. Please visit your MD for a checkup and do so in a timely manner!
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I thought that if you expose your hair and scalp to too much warmth, then you are more likely to lose hair? Also, is there a specific oil that is needed? I tried virgin coconut oil, but I don't really see much change. I've been trying it for one week now.
To the people saying you have thinner hair when starting the CG method - you are probably just experiencing build up and not so voluminous hair. If you truly have hair loss, you would be finding bald spots. If you are finding bald spots, then please ignore what I just said and get yourself to a doctor ASAP
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Doctor? As in a hair doctor like Bosley? That might be too extreme for me. I think I am seeing some changes now with the virgin coconut oil. This is the third week and when I brush my hair, I "feel" more volume, but I will see next week if it is really working. I am not using the virgin oil everyday. Just every 2 days. Is there anything else I am supposed to do?
This is true.
Unless your are being over vigorous with your massage technique you shouldn't be losing hair.
If you are losing hair in large amounts then run don't walk to a doctor as you have an underlying health issue that needs to be address and it's not only your hair at risk.
People all over this board use coconut oil and olive oil on their hair.
There are many regions in the world were these oils are a staple product.
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RO/LI: Aussie Moist, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, Hask Keratin Protein
DC/PROTEIN: KC Stellar Strands / CNPF
STYLER: CJ Curl Queen
COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
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The oil massage itself can not cause hair loss. As per my experience massage is helpful in improving blood circulation in your scalp. Almost everyone feels an increased hair fall at the start of the massage. Hairfall will become normal after massaging 2 or 3 times. In fact, oil is a good protector against the chemicals in shampoo.
Hair fall can increase in case you don't properly wash your hair after the massage. If oil remains on the skin for longer hours blood circulation will be disturbed and no fresh air will be available for the skin.
I am using coconut oil for massage and a baby shampoo to wash my hair in filtered shower water.
All heads are not created equal. I'm the type that can't manipulate my hair too much. I have to shampoo every three to four days and can't add too much product.
I was once so into my hair that I added coconut oil every few days, at night, then covered with a shower cap and slept like that. My hair began to fall off. My scalp produces enough oil so I really don't need that much to start with. Guess that's why it fell off.
Do what's worked in the past. Some of us have to keep our routines simple. Good luck!
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Oil massage does not cause hair loss unless it is done in a hard way. As you said you always do it gently with your finger pads, I don't think so it can cause hair loss rather massaging improves the blood circulation hence improves the health of hair. If we talk about hair fall, normal hair fall rate per day is 100 hair strands, in your case it is 80 thus you need not to worry about it because its normal. Secondly, when you wash or apply shampoo on your hair, you should apply it gently otherwise it can cause more hair fall since, wet hair are more fragile and prone towards breakage. I have observed most of the people have bad hair washing habits that causes more hair fall. Moreover, try making use of GKhair conditioner for less tangled hair. On the contrary, before brushing your hair you should detangle them with your finger for less hair fall. Hope it will help you out!