HELP! my hair has lost its..hold?

I'm not quite sure how to frame this, but my hair has totally lost its "hold". I've been doing headband curls for the past month (similar to a rollerset) and I've had amazing spirals, but this week something changed! I didn't change my products or my routine, but when I take my headband out I dont get shiny, defined curls, instead I end up with a limp, frizzy-ish mess! What gives? I co-wash about twice a week, and since my hair is protein sensitive I avoid protein. I have 3a low porosity hair. I use the following products: Tresemme- naturals condiitoner, vitamin e oil, and pantene silky moisture whip mousse
Can anyone tell me what may be wrong? This undefined frizz is driving me batty!


  • frizzinflafrizzinfla Posts: 190Registered Users
    If your hair is fine, it could be over conditioned.
  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    frizzinfla wrote: »
    If your hair is fine, it could be over conditioned.

    That happened to me when I would DC but using DT with protein helped. I have fine hair with low porosity
    Medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity :shock:
  • curlytwirlygirlcurlytwirlygirl Posts: 54Registered Users
    I also have fine hair with low porosity....what would you recommend as a protein treatment?
  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I used Joico K Pak intense hydrator. I left it on my hair for about 20 minutes with a shower cap. I heated it a little with a blow dryer, then put on a shower cap and a towel to help hold in some of the heat. My hair came out super soft and smelled yummy :)
    Medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity :shock:
  • Aqua_LilyAqua_Lily Posts: 557Registered Users
    I also think you're over conditioned! I use EO keratin conditioner as a PT ( EO Products, Keratin Conditioner, Sulfate Free, Coconut & Hibiscus, 8.4 fl oz (250 ml) - ). Spiral Solutions also a promising looking protein treatment!
    Current length: tailbone
    Goal length: mid-thigh (wet)
    3A/2C M iii med por, high elast

    Clarify: Nivea
    Lo-poo: Nature's Gate
    CW: Elvive Volume Collagen
    RO: EO Keratin, Desert Essence Raspberry

    LI: Elvive volume collagen, KCKT
    Seal: Grapeseed oil
    Gel: Studioline

    PT: EO Keratin co
    DT: RO+oils
    Hairgrowth stim.: JBCO+EVCO 5-10$ discount code:
    VHT541 Many natural hair products! :D
  • curlytwirlygirlcurlytwirlygirl Posts: 54Registered Users
    Okay, so last night I tried a protein treatment with an egg to see if it would make any difference...Well my hair has a tinnyyy bit more definition, but is still rather fluffy. Is it going to take more than one protein treatment in order to restore my hair?
  • Laura LeeLaura Lee Posts: 1,828Registered Users
    If you have fine hair and you've never done a protein treatment, odds are one egg treatment won't do much. I would highly recommend the Aphogee 2 minute protein treatment. It's less scary than the full aphogee treatment. You can get at Sally's. I also like Nexus Emergencee. It's very intensive and I only use it about once a month. It's pricey, but you can find it in most drugstores.

    Fine/thin 2c/3a, Low-Medium Porosity, Dry!
  • curlytwirlygirlcurlytwirlygirl Posts: 54Registered Users
    Since I'm at college i dont really have access to any drugstore products =/
    But i have been using conditioner and stylers with wheat protein and silk protein!
    i'm still baffled though...its almost like my hair has lost its weight; instead of being bouncy and having "hang" It's fluffy and airy and almost feels like a cloud :mad:
    Is there anything else I can do to fix this!?
  • rainboerainboe Posts: 284Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    You don't live near any drugstores? I'm in a college town, and we have a couple drugstores within walking distance (like Walgreens carries a lot of good products) plus a Walmart.

    If you can get to a grocery store, there's a neat recipe using Knox unflavored gelatin powder that you can try. I've tried it, and it works really well in my hair. Knox unflavored gelatin powder comes in a small box and has like five little individual bags in it. You can find it with the jello and pudding, usually. Also, I've read before that the protein in egg doesn't really help hair very much because it's a large protein. I don't really know much about that though.

    Pedaheh's Hair Blog: Science-y Hair Blog Recipes
    The Great Egg Debate

    ETA: If your Mousse contains mineral oil, you might want to rotate in a clarify shampoo occasionally because that can build up on the hair.
    Fine Texture, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity. Dyed to brown a few months ago.
    Lowpoo: Trader Joe's TTT Shampoo
    Rinse Out:
    Yes to Carrots, AOHR, Aubrey Organics Rosemary Peppermint
    LI: Yes to Carrots
    Stylers: Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie, LA Looks Sports, Suave Professionals Captivating Curls Whipped Mousse
  • curlytwirlygirlcurlytwirlygirl Posts: 54Registered Users
    Sorry to bring this up again, but I'm still suffering from the same problem, and I'm at wits end trying to figure it out! After thinking that my hair might be overconditioned I washed with a sulfate shampoo and used the aphogee 2 minute keratin reconstructor treatment. I've also been using only light conditioners with protein (the vo5 ones) and I've used the reconstructing treatment 3 hair is still the same! You know that gel cast hair gets when it dries? Like that crunchy feel? That's what i want! My hair dries incredibly soft and fluffy! Do I just need a stronger hold product?
  • frizzinflafrizzinfla Posts: 190Registered Users
    I've had this happen to me too. Frustrating. The only solution is trial and error. The following products have worked for me in the past: Renpure Organics conditioner in the green bottle with a little more as leave in after rinsing. Followed by BRHG. BRHG is a little costly but you only need a little bit. It's a hard hold gel with silk protein.
  • curlytwirlygirlcurlytwirlygirl Posts: 54Registered Users
    Thanks for the recommendations! I was thinking I might need a stronger hold gel, I'll go ahead and give it a try.
  • frizzinflafrizzinfla Posts: 190Registered Users
    The other gel that is awesome (but expensive) is Aquage Molding Mega Gel. Recommended to me by StruttsWife. I buy it at It's full of marine botanicals, which my hair loves. Good luck!!

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