What do you think of my character?

jenfitzjenfitz Posts: 121Registered Users
My character is a fourteen year old girl. Her name is Isabel(Izzy for a nickname) because thats what i want to name my daughter if i ever have one. She has long wavy dark brown hair. She has dark eyes and olive skin. She is a tomboy. She is sarcastic a lot and can be stubborn and hotheaded. She loves soccer and softball. She loves music and books. Music is her life. Her favorite music genre is rock music. She has two older siblings who she would die for. She has a nephew and a niece who she loves. Her favorite color is black. She hates mean girls and girls that act helpless. She loves video games. She hates dresses, skirts, high heels, and makeup. She hates shopping. She only fights when she needs too. She hates girls that physically fight over boys. She views guys as friends. She hates having girls as friends because of drama. She has dyslexia and ADHD. She lives in the south.

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  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,391Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    jenfitz wrote: »
    She hates mean girls and girls that act helpless. She loves video games. She hates dresses, skirts, high heels, and makeup. She hates shopping. She only fights when she needs too. She hates girls that physically fight over boys. She views guys as friends. She hates having girls as friends because of drama.
    Why does your character think girls are always having catfights over guys, or that girls are the only ones who have drama? At the moment, all of my closest friends happen to be women and I really value my relationship with them. And I've known plenty of men with all sorts of drama, although I certainly don't use that to disqualify an entire gender as potential friends. I've been friends with a lot guys and I value those relationships too.

    Also, it sounds like your character doesn't simply prefer not to wear traditionally feminine clothing. It sounds like she thinks it's bad to do culturally feminine things because women are bad. And it sounds like she also thinks that culturally masculine things are better because men are better than women. So in order to be a worthwhile person, a woman has to abandon everything that's considered feminine and instead pursue "masculine" hobbies, like playing video games.
  • jenfitzjenfitz Posts: 121Registered Users
    Eilonwy wrote: »
    jenfitz wrote: »
    She hates mean girls and girls that act helpless. She loves video games. She hates dresses, skirts, high heels, and makeup. She hates shopping. She only fights when she needs too. She hates girls that physically fight over boys. She views guys as friends. She hates having girls as friends because of drama.
    Why does your character think girls are always having catfights over guys, or that girls are the only ones who have drama? At the moment, all of my closest friends happen to be women and I really value my relationship with them. And I've known plenty of men with all sorts of drama, although I certainly don't use that to disqualify an entire gender as potential friends. I've been friends with a lot guys and I value those relationships too.

    Also, it sounds like your character doesn't simply prefer not to wear traditionally feminine clothing. It sounds like she thinks it's bad to do traditionally feminine things because women are bad. And it sounds like she also thinks that masculine things are better because men are better than women. So in order to be a worthwhile person, a woman has to abandon everything that's culturally feminine and instead pursue culturally masculine hobbies, like playing video games.

    She is a tomboy because of her older brother and likes to be comfortable not because she thinks men are better than women. She doesn't think all girls catfight over boys but she hates the ones that do and it's a fact that girls cause more drama.
  • murrrcatmurrrcat Posts: 9,596Registered Users
    show me the receipts.


    are you writing a story?
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  • jenfitzjenfitz Posts: 121Registered Users
    murrrcat wrote: »
    show me the receipts.


    are you writing a story?

    Yes. receipts?
  • SariaSaria Posts: 15,963Registered Users
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  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,391Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    jenfitz wrote: »
    She is a tomboy because of her older brother and likes to be comfortable not because she thinks men are better than women. She doesn't think all girls catfight over boys but she hates the ones that do and it's a fact that girls cause more drama.
    Well I mean, I get the feeling that she thinks girly things are bad. Am I getting that wrong?

    And trust me, girls do not cause more drama! There are plenty of women and plenty of men who like to stir up trouble. And you'll probably hear a whole lot about it too, since so many guys only feel comfortable talking about their emotions with girls.

    :) Anyway, what is your story about? Are you writing it for school or just for fun? I like that you gave your character some real flaws, like being stubborn and hot headed, instead of saying that her flaw is "being too perfect."
  • jenfitzjenfitz Posts: 121Registered Users
    Eilonwy wrote: »
    jenfitz wrote: »
    She is a tomboy because of her older brother and likes to be comfortable not because she thinks men are better than women. She doesn't think all girls catfight over boys but she hates the ones that do and it's a fact that girls cause more drama.
    Well I mean, I get the feeling that she thinks girly things are bad. Am I getting that wrong?

    And trust me, girls do not cause more drama! There are plenty of women and plenty of men who like to stir up trouble. And you'll probably hear a whole lot about it too, since so many guys only feel comfortable talking about their emotions with girls.

    :) Anyway, what is your story about? Are you writing it for school or just for fun?

    Sorry I didn't mean for anyone to think that and she's just not in to girly things and she's been that way since she was little. It's just for fun :)
  • SariaSaria Posts: 15,963Registered Users
    LOL, Eilonwy, you need to have a talk with the Korra fandom.
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  • jenfitzjenfitz Posts: 121Registered Users
    I like that you gave your character some real flaws, like being stubborn and hot headed, instead of saying that her flaw is "being too perfect."[/QUOTE]
    Thanks :)
  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,391Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    jenfitz wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't mean for anyone to think that and she's just not in to girly things and she's been that way since she was little. It's just for fun :icon_smile:
    Oh, there wasn't anything you needed to apologize for :)

    What kind of story is it? Mystery, adventure, fantasy... maybe more than one kind? Is it about all your own characters or is it about characters from a movie or something?

    Books meant a lot to me when I was a kid, so I'd like to write a story too someday. I can never think of an original plot, though!
  • jenfitzjenfitz Posts: 121Registered Users
    Eilonwy wrote: »
    jenfitz wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't mean for anyone to think that and she's just not in to girly things and she's been that way since she was little. It's just for fun :icon_smile:
    Oh, there wasn't anything you needed to apologize for :)

    What kind of story is it? Mystery, adventure, fantasy... maybe more than one kind? Is it about all your own characters or is it about characters from a movie or something?

    Books meant a lot to me when I was a kid, so I'd like to write a story too someday. I can never think of an original plot, though!

    I have so any plots for the story and I don't know which one to use! I love books too :)
  • SariaSaria Posts: 15,963Registered Users
    To expand on Eilonwy's first post, you can have a character who prefers all the things you listed without hating high heels and other things considered feminine. Or she can have a reason why she hates them that isn't that boyish things are better.
    The thing is that there are too many female characters that fall into the super-girly, but kicks ass group and also too many that hate all things "girly". Characters who simply fall somewhere in between are rarer.
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  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,391Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Saria wrote: »
    LOL, Eilonwy, you need to have a talk with the Korra fandom.
    Ha! In my younger and more vulnerable years I tried reading some fanfiction. What could go wrong with reading more stories about characters I liked? I mean, a lot of it probably would have bad writing but some of it had to be good!

    I absolutely avoid anything having to do with "fandom" for things that I like, but I loooove hearing about crazy fandoms for stuff I'm not interested in (see: Supernatural). Not that I've ever seen Avatar or its sequel series.
  • SariaSaria Posts: 15,963Registered Users
    Thankfully I've found a community of reasonable Korra fans, but just reading someone get that flaws make a character more interesting reminds me of the mind-numbing stupidity and offensiveness of the fandom, complete with people who have straight up said that a certain character's flaw is that she has no flaws. Nooo, stop, just stop!
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  • murrrcatmurrrcat Posts: 9,596Registered Users
    Saria wrote: »
    Thankfully I've found a community of reasonable Korra fans, but just reading someone get that flaws make a character more interesting reminds me of the mind-numbing stupidity and offensiveness of the fandom, complete with people who have straight up said that a certain character's flaw is that she has no flaws. Nooo, stop, just stop!


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  • jenfitzjenfitz Posts: 121Registered Users
    murrrcat wrote: »
    Saria wrote: »
    Thankfully I've found a community of reasonable Korra fans, but just reading someone get that flaws make a character more interesting reminds me of the mind-numbing stupidity and offensiveness of the fandom, complete with people who have straight up said that a certain character's flaw is that she has no flaws. Nooo, stop, just stop!


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  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,391Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Saria wrote: »
    Thankfully I've found a community of reasonable Korra fans, but just reading someone get that flaws make a character more interesting reminds me of the mind-numbing stupidity and offensiveness of the fandom, complete with people who have straight up said that a certain character's flaw is that she has no flaws. Nooo, stop, just stop!
    Flawlessness as a flaw is like the number one Mary Sue trait... along with having eyes that are some crazy color.

    *whispers* twilight
  • jenfitzjenfitz Posts: 121Registered Users
    Eilonwy wrote: »
    Saria wrote: »
    Thankfully I've found a community of reasonable Korra fans, but just reading someone get that flaws make a character more interesting reminds me of the mind-numbing stupidity and offensiveness of the fandom, complete with people who have straight up said that a certain character's flaw is that she has no flaws. Nooo, stop, just stop!
    Flawlessness as a flaw is like the number one Mary Sue trait... along with having eyes that are some crazy color.

    *whispers* twilight

    Like red
  • NarniaNarnia Posts: 1,770Registered Users
    Saria wrote: »
    To expand on Eilonwy's first post, you can have a character who prefers all the things you listed without hating high heels and other things considered feminine. Or she can have a reason why she hates them that isn't that boyish things are better.
    The thing is that there are too many female characters that fall into the super-girly, but kicks ass group and also too many that hate all things "girly". Characters who simply fall somewhere in between are rarer.

    I agree with this. She sounds to "typical".
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,755Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I think these decisions need to be driven by the story's theme and plot. So they may or may not make sense...can't tell w/o knowing more.

  • triple_spiraltriple_spiral Posts: 249Registered Users
    jenfitz wrote: »
    My character is a fourteen year old girl. Her name is Isabel(Izzy for a nickname) because thats what i want to name my daughter if i ever have one. She has long wavy dark brown hair. She has dark eyes and olive skin. She is a tomboy. She is sarcastic a lot and can be stubborn and hotheaded. She loves soccer and softball. She loves music and books. Music is her life. Her favorite music genre is rock music. She has two older siblings who she would die for. She has a nephew and a niece who she loves. Her favorite color is black. She hates mean girls and girls that act helpless. She loves video games. She hates dresses, skirts, high heels, and makeup. She hates shopping. She only fights when she needs too. She hates girls that physically fight over boys. She views guys as friends. She hates having girls as friends because of drama. She has dyslexia and ADHD. She lives in the south.

    I think it's a really good start - there are a lot of details. She needs to be fleshed out but that will happen as your story develops.

    About her view of girls and girly things: I can see why other people have a problem with this, but I think it can work and still be a good character. This is a fairly common thing especially for younger girls, so it is realistic - you just have to flesh out in your story *why* she hates girly things, and prefers to be friends with guys. "Girls start drama/are jealous" is too shallow, people are more complex than that.....most girls' ability to relate to other girls and guys goes back to how they were raised, their relationship with their mother and father, and how they view femininity (are girls "weak"? is femininity beautiful? pros and cons?) and masculinity.

    I would def go into her history.....what friends has shse had, was she bullied by girls, etc.

    Anyway, good luck with your story! I wish I could find the time to write for fun again (I mean....I could but, lazy).
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  • irociroc Posts: 7,890Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    jenfitz wrote: »
    My character is a fourteen year old girl. Her name is Isabel(Izzy for a nickname) because thats what i want to name my daughter if i ever have one. She has long wavy dark brown hair. She has dark eyes and olive skin. She is a tomboy. She is sarcastic a lot and can be stubborn and hotheaded. She loves soccer and softball. She loves music and books. Music is her life. Her favorite music genre is rock music. She has two older siblings who she would die for. She has a nephew and a niece who she loves. Her favorite color is black. She hates mean girls and girls that act helpless. She loves video games. She hates dresses, skirts, high heels, and makeup. She hates shopping. She only fights when she needs too. She hates girls that physically fight over boys. She views guys as friends. She hates having girls as friends because of drama. She has dyslexia and ADHD. She lives in the south.


    The only thing I would think about altering is the hating having girls as friends BC of the drama.

    What if she doesn't have many friends BC she likes to keep to herself. BC she finds herself a bit of a loner. But she is friendly with Ger brothers and their friends - hence having mostly guy friends.

    Instead of having her 'hate' dresses and 'hate' high heels, and 'hate' girls who fight over guys, you could have her be uninterested and bored with these things.




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