Question about humectants

I want to buy CJ Pattern Pusha but I noticed it has some humectants. It doesn't have Glycerin but it has panthenol and propylene glycol. If I understand humectants and dew points right you shouldn't use products with humectants in dew points above 60? I live in Jersey and we are having really weird weather. Today the dew point was 57. Are some humectants better than others? This is not exactly a hard hold gel and I thought hard hold gels are better for summer. But it's suppose to be spring here with normal dew points. I don't know if I should get this. Can someone tell me if they have noticed any effects from the humectants when using this?
Hair: Medium Texture, Normal Porosity, Low elasticity
Curl Pattern:3C

Poo: KC Come Clean (once/wk)
Clarify: Ouidad Water Works (once/month)
RO: Suave Wild Cherry Blossom
LI: Suave Wild Cherry Blossom
Gels: HETT and FSG
DT: CJCR (once/wk)
PT: Yogurt with coconut oil and avocado oil (once/month)

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  • jaclyn15jaclyn15 Registered Users Posts: 227
    I am sensitive to glycerin but find other humectants less troublesome for my hair. But of course everyone is different!

    I did try the CJPP and was not impressed. It's ok but not great, but it didn't dry me out. Medium just ok hold, lost a lot of volume from te hydro cellulose
    My hair: 3b, corkicelli, medium porosity, medium texture, medium/thick density

    Co-wash: DevaCurl NoPoo
    Rinse-out: GVP Conditioning Balm
    Leave-in: KCKT, Suave Naturals Coconut, or my rinse-out!
    Gel: SS FHG (my new HG!!)... I also like HESMU, AIF, CJ CQ, BRHG, CJ PP and the occasional LALSG

    Likes: Plopping!
    Dislikes: Glycerin

    CG and loving it! :hello1:
  • shrinkstershrinkster Registered Users Posts: 99
    Jaclyn15, thank you. My hair hates glycerin (aloe as well) and it's hard to find products that don't have humectants in the ingredients. I was thinking of using CJPP as a replacement for FSG. I usually apply FSG over HETT since FSG doesn't have much hold either. I'm glad to hear that these humectants didn't appear to bother you. Good to know.
    Hair: Medium Texture, Normal Porosity, Low elasticity
    Curl Pattern:3C

    Poo: KC Come Clean (once/wk)
    Clarify: Ouidad Water Works (once/month)
    RO: Suave Wild Cherry Blossom
    LI: Suave Wild Cherry Blossom
    Gels: HETT and FSG
    DT: CJCR (once/wk)
    PT: Yogurt with coconut oil and avocado oil (once/month)
  • jaclyn15jaclyn15 Registered Users Posts: 227
    You may also want to try Aussie instant freeze. It is humectant free as far as I know! It's quite globby though so a little goes a long way :)
    My hair: 3b, corkicelli, medium porosity, medium texture, medium/thick density

    Co-wash: DevaCurl NoPoo
    Rinse-out: GVP Conditioning Balm
    Leave-in: KCKT, Suave Naturals Coconut, or my rinse-out!
    Gel: SS FHG (my new HG!!)... I also like HESMU, AIF, CJ CQ, BRHG, CJ PP and the occasional LALSG

    Likes: Plopping!
    Dislikes: Glycerin

    CG and loving it! :hello1:
  • SaraNoHSaraNoH Registered Users Posts: 827
    AIF:
    water, laureth 23, ppolyquaternium 4, hydroxyethylcellulose, benzyl alcohol, acrylates/beheneth 25 methacrylate copolymer, aminomethyl propanol, dmdm hydantoin, acrylates copolymer, fragrance, disodium edta, prunus serotina bark extract (wild cherry), humulus lupulus extract (hops), hedychium coronarium root extract (australian white ginger), panthenol

    Those are the humectants in the product, but there ones that don't get a lot of hype so I wouldn't be too worried about it. I'm still on the fence about panthenol since it's in freaking everything!
    CG Birthday: 7/25/11
    Type 3a/2c
    Dense, Fine in front Coarse in back, Low porosity
    Low-Poo: SM Moisture Retention Shampoo
    Rinse Out: Tresemme Naturals
    Leave In: ^^^^
    Stylers: AIF, Natural Silks Curly Gel
    *Desert Curly*
  • jaclyn15jaclyn15 Registered Users Posts: 227
    Crap I thought I was safe with that one haha. I haven't found it to be drying at all though. Is there such a thing as a completely humectant free gel/styler?
    My hair: 3b, corkicelli, medium porosity, medium texture, medium/thick density

    Co-wash: DevaCurl NoPoo
    Rinse-out: GVP Conditioning Balm
    Leave-in: KCKT, Suave Naturals Coconut, or my rinse-out!
    Gel: SS FHG (my new HG!!)... I also like HESMU, AIF, CJ CQ, BRHG, CJ PP and the occasional LALSG

    Likes: Plopping!
    Dislikes: Glycerin

    CG and loving it! :hello1:
  • shrinkstershrinkster Registered Users Posts: 99
    jaclyn15 wrote: »
    Crap I thought I was safe with that one haha. I haven't found it to be drying at all though. Is there such a thing as a completely humectant free gel/styler?


    Yes, I think Herbal Essence Totally Twisted is humectant, protein and aloe free. It just doesn't have much hold for the summer. I just bought AIF last week but haven't used it, I didn't realize it had humectants. So strange how some people love humectants for the summer. I wish my hair didn't hate everything.:(
    Hair: Medium Texture, Normal Porosity, Low elasticity
    Curl Pattern:3C

    Poo: KC Come Clean (once/wk)
    Clarify: Ouidad Water Works (once/month)
    RO: Suave Wild Cherry Blossom
    LI: Suave Wild Cherry Blossom
    Gels: HETT and FSG
    DT: CJCR (once/wk)
    PT: Yogurt with coconut oil and avocado oil (once/month)
  • Corrina777Corrina777 Registered Users Posts: 3,204 Curl Connoisseur
    I live in the Hudson Valley, NY area so I completely understand trying to navigate the weird weather this year. My understanding was that humectants are good in higher dews to a point. Like right now I'm finding that my hair is liking glycerin. I suspect that won't be the case in the dead of August, but I guess I'll have to deal with that when the dews get really high.

    As far as CJPP, I like the clumps I get from it, but I add a little bit of BRHG to increase the hold.

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    Modified CG since 11/5/11
    CLEANSE: CJ Daily Fix, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
    RO: SS Caitlin's Conditioner, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
    LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
    STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier,Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
  • diasporadiaspora Registered Users Posts: 596 Curl Neophyte
    Something definitely went wrong for me with CJ PP once it got rainy/dewy out. It was my first time trying it, and after reading up on it, I decided to use it without a LI. Never have I gotten such beautiful results from a gel alone-- my curls were shiny and bouncy, I thought this was going to be in the running as my new HG spring/summer styler. But, as the weather went from cool, "optimal" dews to hot, rainy and high dews, my hair frizzed out into a puffball even though I was inside most of the time, and not pretty, fluffly big hair, but fuzzy, dry looking frizz :(

    I don't know if this was from the humectants, from having a light-medium hold, or from it not being moisturizing enough for those conditions, but the whole reason I tried it was because I thought it would be good for muggy weather.

    AIF doesn't work for me any of the times I've tried it in varying weather conditions. I got no crunch to scrunch out at all.

    I've been avoiding glycerin at least to see if that helps, but I'm confused because when I lived in FL with very high dews, Deva Curl products never worked better for me, and they're packed with glycerin!
    Formerly Urbancurl.
    Medium-high density, fine-medium, low-normal porosity, 3b/c, permanent color.
    CG, no heat, combs, brushes, parabens.
    Fall/Winter HG=Alba Botanica Soft Hold Style Cream.
    Spring/Summer HG=MGA Sculpting Gel
    Current fave LI=Madre Labs Made by Nature for Baby Conditioner.
    Limit oils, butters, glycerin.

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