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ETA:
Both Jasmine's Silk Detangling Spray and Afroveda's Ananda Heavenly Bliss are both bases.
If you like them you can also get them here: http://www.ingredientstodiefor.com/item.php?item_id=363&category_id=53
Afroveda's B.A.R.E. Detangling Spray is from EW: http://www.essentialwholesale.com/Leave-in-Detangler-Spray
HG's: CJ Daily Fix, Bobeam Cheris Hibiscus shampoo bar, KC Spiral Spritz, Knot Today, CJ Rehab, KBB LL Hair Mask, Cassia, KCCC, oil blend of Avocado, Camellia, Jojoba, & Meadowfoam oils
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And I posted this in response to that young lady on the other forum:
"Frankly, it doesn't matter if she is or isn't. The point is that you can buy the bases for far cheaper than she's attempting to sell it to you. You'd literally have to be a raving idiot (IMO) to waste money on her products. I like to get the most for my money. PERIOD. And don't feel sorry for that woman. She knew the job was dangerous when she took it. You don't raise prices to cover costs (not a massive price hike like she did)...you utilize the fact that you are a minority small business owner (female AND black), write a business plan based on the popularity and current profitability of your business, and get a small business loan to expand your business. There isn't a bank in the world that wouldn't fund her with her proven profitability. She'd get a loan in a heartbeat.
Frankly, I think she needs to take a business course or something."
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I know one thing: I bet her ass now wishes she ( or they, since she always seems to be referring to more than one person in her [email protected] but don't have NO employees) had NEVER EVER EVER EVER raised them prices. This thread also serves as a warning to other businesses---the internet is the devil and these threads will send you down in flames:blob6:
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The ingredients are the facts. Period. That person is just in denial. They can stay there if they wanna and get..
Low porosity thick/coarse texture. nml elasticity
Routine: No rules, just happy hair
Cleanse: CJDF, Prell, LUSH Curly Wurly, Bobeam
LI/RO:BBB, CJ, SheaM, HEHIS, Garnier, KBN Shealoe, CD Chocolat, Oyin HH
Styling: CJ, CR, UFD, Zuresh, Ecostyler,MJ
PT/DT: BBB, CJ, Lather, MJSSB
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To Proctor and Gamble!? Unless I got the abbrev wrong. Are u KIDDING me!?!? ROTFL!!
Ignorance is a bi--
Low porosity thick/coarse texture. nml elasticity
Routine: No rules, just happy hair
Cleanse: CJDF, Prell, LUSH Curly Wurly, Bobeam
LI/RO:BBB, CJ, SheaM, HEHIS, Garnier, KBN Shealoe, CD Chocolat, Oyin HH
Styling: CJ, CR, UFD, Zuresh, Ecostyler,MJ
PT/DT: BBB, CJ, Lather, MJSSB
HUGE PJJJJJJJJ!!!!:love4:
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no...meaning you're right they dont have to disclose they're using a base (i was agreeing but it's hard to interpret via internet)
Falling deeper and deeper and deeper in :love4: with my beautiful mixture of springy, tight coils and super duper kinks.
*SIGH* Alas, I've come to accept my shrinkage and fairy knots :angry7:
There are no magic potions, concoctions, elixirs, or pills for hair growth, weight loss, or financial independence... so stop looking for a quick fix!!!
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Yes girl....P&G. I was like...
Oh, and that gif was icky, LOL!!! That sure did wake me up though...
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Yep. The gif is exactly what I think Mala is doing-- trynna sh-- on us. LOL!!
The bolded? + 100000!! I mean are you serious!? Seriously!? LOLOL!!
Low porosity thick/coarse texture. nml elasticity
Routine: No rules, just happy hair
Cleanse: CJDF, Prell, LUSH Curly Wurly, Bobeam
LI/RO:BBB, CJ, SheaM, HEHIS, Garnier, KBN Shealoe, CD Chocolat, Oyin HH
Styling: CJ, CR, UFD, Zuresh, Ecostyler,MJ
PT/DT: BBB, CJ, Lather, MJSSB
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I want more links to bases LoL gimme!
cause im bout to get to buyin, how about that citrus conditioner? Did anybody get far enough to try Zipporahs version to know if the base is good enough to buy? Lol
Poo/Cowash| Bobeam, V05 Shea Cashmere
DC| AOGPB, CJ Repair Me, BrownButterBeauty
RinseOut| Mill Creek Keratin Conditioner, Ology Moisturizing Conditioner
Leave In| Curl Rehab, Bee Mine Luscious Balanced Moisturizer, CJ Smoothing Lotion
Moisturize|Oyin Hair Dew, CR Moisture Milk
Gel| Kiss My Face UMG, Trader Joes Aloe Vera, KCCC
Sealants| Aloe Juice, Whipped Shea, Cocoa & Mango Butters, Castor, & my Peanut Oil Blend
I just want to thank you though for bringing this info to light because I really had no clue. Although I have never used AV, it doesn't mean I wouldn't have in the future. After all this fall out however, I doubt really seriously that will happen. A smart consumer is an informed one and if nothing else, you have most certainly informed many of us. So thanks again for that!:happy8:
http://public.fotki.com/stephelise/
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http://www.camdengrey.com/essential-oils/Raw-Materials-Unscented-Bases/butter-madness-creme-bulk.html
Big Chop: 9/23/07
Relaxer free for almost 5 years!
I LOVE that lotion, and yes it smells exactly the same.
BC: December 08
First and only time going natural:wav:
Holy Grails:love10:
*Terressential Pure Earth Hair Wash*Curl Junkie Deep Fix* Curl Junkie Smoothing Lotion* Tresemme Naturals(Moisture)* Vo5 Kiwi Lime Clarifying Poo/Elucence Moisture Balancing Poo* Komaza Care Jojoba Hemp* Oyin Burnt Sugar:love10:
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Camden Grey butter: Ingredients: Water, Emulsifying Wax NF, Theobroma Cacao (Cocoa) Seed Butter, Stearic Acid, Glycerin, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter) Fruit, Aloe Barbadensis (Aloe Vera) Leaf Juice, Phenoxyethanol (and) Ethylhexylglycerin, Mangifera Indica (Mango) Seed Butter, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract, Xanthan Gum, Prunus Amygdalus Dulcis (Sweet Almond) Oil, Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Seed Extract, Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E).
CocoLatte Moisture Mask: Aloe Vera Leaf Juice, Rice Milk, Water, Avocado Oil, Coconut Oil, Ashwahandha Powder, Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Nettle, Herbal Oil Complex, Shea Butter, Jojoba Oil, Neem Oil, Glyceryl Stearate (and) Cetearyl Alcohol (and)Sodium Stearoyl Lactylate, Phenoxyethanol and Caprylyl Glycol, and love.
It's possible. The Herbal Oil Complex and "Love" could be blanket terms for anything. I also refuse to believe a coco smell can come without having cocoa butter as an ingredient. Unless its an EO she added.
Low porosity thick/coarse texture. nml elasticity
Routine: No rules, just happy hair
Cleanse: CJDF, Prell, LUSH Curly Wurly, Bobeam
LI/RO:BBB, CJ, SheaM, HEHIS, Garnier, KBN Shealoe, CD Chocolat, Oyin HH
Styling: CJ, CR, UFD, Zuresh, Ecostyler,MJ
PT/DT: BBB, CJ, Lather, MJSSB
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Soooooo.... not to start anything... but when Mala closed up her shop and said she was going to Africa last year to buy Shea Butter... was she really in Oregan? Clackamas, Oregon home of Essential Wholesale? LOL
I was actually quite shocked at how much the consistency and smell was exactly like the cocolatte butter or whatever its called. BTW I highly recommend that Camden Grey vendor. They have great customer service and their butters were awesome.
Big Chop: 9/23/07
Relaxer free for almost 5 years!
ROTFLMBAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laughing5: The way it stands now, YEP!
Plus you don't need to go to Africa for Shea butter as I need only walk a few blocks to every Africa dude with blocks and BLOCKS of the stuff for sale and will gladly do a wholesale deal with you. It's Bologna she's dealing in-- and it aint Oscar Mayer.
Low porosity thick/coarse texture. nml elasticity
Routine: No rules, just happy hair
Cleanse: CJDF, Prell, LUSH Curly Wurly, Bobeam
LI/RO:BBB, CJ, SheaM, HEHIS, Garnier, KBN Shealoe, CD Chocolat, Oyin HH
Styling: CJ, CR, UFD, Zuresh, Ecostyler,MJ
PT/DT: BBB, CJ, Lather, MJSSB
HUGE PJJJJJJJJ!!!!:love4:
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DAYUM DAYUM DAYUM. You must be in my head because I had the SAME thought this morning!!!
http://www.facebook.com/PlatinumPJ
Extremely thick, kinky curls/coils that have a mind of thier own!!!!
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She is also now using geogard ultra as a preservative I see, I wonder if she has tested this. This preservative is also quite pricey so maybe part of the reason for the hike? STILL THOUGH...side eye
faves: suave, v05 shampoo, conditioner (my own), raw shea butter, castor oil, peanut oil, aloe juice
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Damn!!! When NCC said to preserve the ingredient's listing that was like around 9 am YESTERDAY.. and what I copied and pasted earlier was DIRECTLY from the website bout round 11AM (2 hrs later) when I finished.
Like.. whoa. LOL!! We got Mala running for cover!
Low porosity thick/coarse texture. nml elasticity
Routine: No rules, just happy hair
Cleanse: CJDF, Prell, LUSH Curly Wurly, Bobeam
LI/RO:BBB, CJ, SheaM, HEHIS, Garnier, KBN Shealoe, CD Chocolat, Oyin HH
Styling: CJ, CR, UFD, Zuresh, Ecostyler,MJ
PT/DT: BBB, CJ, Lather, MJSSB
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SIGH.
Sadly, I knew this would happen, which is why I requested someone save the lists for comparison purposes. When I found out that all of her products are bases with the exception of the butter, I started to question Mala's integrity. At this point I'm no longer questioning....because you can't question what's not there.
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ITA. She is showing us, in living color who she is and what she's dealing. Such a shame..:disgust:
Low porosity thick/coarse texture. nml elasticity
Routine: No rules, just happy hair
Cleanse: CJDF, Prell, LUSH Curly Wurly, Bobeam
LI/RO:BBB, CJ, SheaM, HEHIS, Garnier, KBN Shealoe, CD Chocolat, Oyin HH
Styling: CJ, CR, UFD, Zuresh, Ecostyler,MJ
PT/DT: BBB, CJ, Lather, MJSSB
HUGE PJJJJJJJJ!!!!:love4:
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BTW a few of these vendors are on Etsy claiming their products are handmade. That's a bit shady as well. I won't name them cuz I don't want to hurt their business, just sayin.
Big Chop: 9/23/07
Relaxer free for almost 5 years!
Ingredients include: Aqua (water), Glycine Soja Oil, Phyto Keratin (Vegetable) Protein, Acai Berry Extract, Avocado oil, Olive Oil, Cetry Alcohol, Steryl Alcohol, Stearalkonium Chloride, Dimethyl Stearamine, Lactic Acid, Germall, Fragrance.
Try Boutique Laboratory's Acai Berry Conditioner
http://www.buybulkskincare.com/Acai-Berry-Shampoo.html
INGREDIENTS: organic euterpe oleracea (acai) pulp distillate, purified water, cetyl alcohol (plant source), stearyl alcohol (plant source), stearalkonium chloride (plant source), soybean protein, organic euterpe oleracea (acai) extract, organic hibiscus sabdariffa flower extract, organic punica granatum (pomegranate) seed extract, organic vaccinium angustifolium (blueberry) wine, potassium sorbate (plant source), organic azadirachta indica (neem) leaf extract, dimethyl stearamine (natural source), phenoxyethanol (mild preservative), caprylyl glycol (plant source), panthanol (vitamin B5), tocopherol (natural vitamin E), lactic acid (natural source), magnesium ascorbyl phosphate (vitamin C ester), sodium bicarbonate (baking soda), citric acid (from citrus fruit). May contain natural fragrance (all natural & phthalate-free).
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Hairveda SitriNillah Deep Conditioning Masque
Ingredients: Water, Coconut oil, Castor Oil, Cetyl Alcohol, Glycerin, Steryl Alcohol, Stearakloniun Chloride, Dimethyl Stearamine, Orange oil, Orange Extract, Vanilla Extract, Lactic Acid, Germall Plus, Fragrance. 16oz. jar.
is Crafters Choice™ Hair Conditioner Concentrate with the unbolded items "added" by BJ.
Click here for link to product
Ingredients: Cetyl Alcohol, Stearyl Alcohol, Stearalkonium Chloride, Dimethyl Stearamine, Lactic Acid
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Hairveda Moist Conditioner 24/7
Ingredients: Water Coconut oil, Hydronated Vegetable oil, Glycerin, Cetyl Alcohol, Stearalkonium Chloride, Dimethyl Stearamine, Lactic Acid, Germall Plus, Fragrance. 16oz. bottle
is Also Crafters Choice™ Hair Conditioner Concentrate with the unbolded items "added" by BJ. Click here for link to product
Ingredients: Cetyl Alcohol, Stearyl Alcohol, Stearalkonium Chloride, Dimethyl Stearamine, Lactic Acid
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Hairveda Amla Shampoo
Ingredients: Aloe barbadensis (Aloe) Juice, Sodium Cocopolyglucoside Tartrate, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Sodium Cocopolyglucoside Citrate, Vegetable Glycerin, Phenoxyethanol, Hydrolized Wheat Proteins, Shikakai Oil, Vitis vinifera (Grapeseed) Oil, Ricinus Communis (Castor) Oil, Simmondsia chinensis (Jojoba) Oil, Tocopherol (Vitamin E), Avena sativa (Oat) Extract, Calcium d-Pantothenate (Pro-Vitamin B5), Vitis vinifera (Grape) Extract, Bambusa glaucescens (Bamboo) Extract, Tetrasodium Edta, Xanthan Gum (Polysaccharide Gum), Citric Acid, Frangrance.
is the Essential Wholesale Amber Sulfate-Free Shampoo Base.
Looks like she is leaving out a number of the real ingredients and of course switching the order around.
http://www.essentialwholesale.com/Amber-Sulfate-Free-Shampoo
Ingredients/Tech Specs: Aloe barbadensis (Organic Aloe) Juice, Lavendula angustifolia (Lavender) Distillate, Anthemis nobilis (Roman Chamomile) Distillate, Sodium Cocopolyglucoside Tartrate, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Sodium Cocopolyglucoside Citrate, Kosher Vegetable Glycerin, Phenoxyethanol, Calcium d-Pantothenate (Pro-Vitamin B5), Xanthan Gum (Polysaccharide Gum), Hydrolized Wheat Proteins, Avena sativa (Oat) Extract, Simmondsia chinensis (Jojoba) Oil, Rosa mosqueta (Rosehip) Seed Oil, Tocopherol (Vitamin E), Salix nigra (Black Willowbark) Extract, Edta, Citric Acid
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Hairveda Whipped Green Tea Butter
Ingredients include: Prunus Amygdalus Dulcis (Sweet Almond) Oil, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Powder, Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil, Fragrance. 6oz. [/font][/font]
is Crafters Choice™ Green Tea Butter Blend
Click here to see productIngredients: Prunus Amygdalus Dulcis (Sweet Almond) Oil (and) Camellia Sinensis Leaf Powder(and) Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil.
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Hairveda UrbanAroma Pur Buttercream
http://hairveda.com/UrbanAroma.aspx
Pur ButterCreme
Ingredients: Water, Carthamus Tinctorius (Safflower) Seed Oil, Prunus Amygdalus Dulis (Sweet Almond) Oil, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Glyceryl Stearate, Glycerin, Cetyl Alcohol, Sorbitol, Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Seed Oil**, Linum Usitatissimum Seed Extract**, Punica Granatum Extract**, Olea Europaea Fruit Extract**, Laminaria Digitata Extract**, Morinda Citrifolia Extract**, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract**, Theobroma Cacao (Cocoa) Seed Butter, Macadamia Ternifolia Seed Oil, Persea Gratissima (Avocado) Oil, Tocopheryl, Phospholipids, Tocopheryl Acetate, Retinyl Palmitate, Ascorbyl Palmitate, Ascorbic Acid, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract, Xanthum Gum, Disodium EDTA.
** Organic
Is Body Butter from Majestic Mountain Sage
http://www.thesage.com/catalog/Moisturizers.html
Ingredients: Water, Carthamus Tinctorius (Safflower) Seed Oil, Prunus Amygdalus Dulis (Sweet Almond) Oil, Cyclopentasiloxane, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Glyceryl Stearate, PEG-100 Stearate, Glycerin, Cetyl Alcohol, Sorbitol, Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Seed Oil**, Linum Usitatissimum Seed Extract**, Punica Granatum Extract**, Olea Europaea Fruit Extract**, Laminaria Digitata Extract**, Morinda Citrifolia Extract**, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract**, Theobroma Cacao (Cocoa) Seed Butter, Macadamia Ternifolia Seed Oil, Persea Gratissima (Avocado) Oil, Tocopheryl, Phospholipids, Tocopheryl Acetate, Retinyl Palmitate, Ascorbyl Palmitate, Ascorbic Acid, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Seed Extract, DMDM Hydantoin, PEG-150 Distearate, Xanthum Gum, Disodium EDTA.
** Denotes organic material
And so it began...Relaxer-free since 2003
Naturally OUT since Sept. 21, 2008
Products in current rotation:
Terressentials Left Coast Lemon, Oyin Honey Dew,Hairveda Cocoshasta Oil,Darcy's Botanicals MVSC