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I have a weird dilemma...

zcurlygirlzcurlygirl Posts: 217Registered Users
I have strict guidelines from my mother about hair products. She is very concerned about carcinogens and other chemicals affecting my health. I want to buy new hair products, but their ingredients must be up to par with my mom's standards (no parabens, no PVP, etc.).

Can anyone help? This is a picture of my hair:

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My hair routine is as follows:

- Co-wash with TJ's Nourish Condish
- Condish with 1/2 TJ's Nourish and 1/2 AOHR
- Rake blob of GDLI
- Scrunch homemade FSG

Some fellow curlies have suggested:

-Boots Curl Cream (no, because of PVP)
-Lustrasilk Cholestral Leave-in
-LA Looks (definite no)
-Ecostyler Gel (also a no, because of PVP)
-[buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curly-Hair-Solutions-Curl-Keeper-p-28.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=curly-hair-solutions-curl-keeper]Curl Keeper[/buylink] (has PVP)

I'm stuck. It seems as though every product I find, she doesn't approve of. I'm looking to control the frizz better, and have more clumps.

Help, please?!
2c/3a/3b
Co-Wash: TJ's Nourish
Conditioner: 1/2 TJ's Nourish, 1/2 AO Honeysuckle Rose
Leave-in: GDLI, CJ Curl Assurance
Love: Pineappling, FSG and this website!
CG Since Sept. 5th, 2009!!!:thumbup:

With the help of StruttsWife's E-book:
Normal Porosity, Fine Texture (who would've thunk!), normal elasticity, and medium density.

PM me if you have suggestions for my hair (i.e. product, etc.), help would be very much appreciated!

Comments

  • FroggiloreFroggilore Posts: 141Registered Users
    Homemade flax seed gel has worked really well this winter for me for clumps and Frizz control. I use the recipe on the flax seed gel thread here on Naturally Curly.
    Hair type: 2a/b, medium to fine texture, medium to high porosity (I think!)
    Routine: Occasionally wash with Lavender baby shampoo. CO wash with Garnier triple nutrition conditioner, use a nickel sized blob as a leave in, scrunch out a little water, scrunch in some aloe gel (FOTE), then scrunch in some Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee (BRHG). Plop with a backwards turbie twist for 10 min - to overnight.
    CG since 23 May 2009! (with some minor slips)
  • whatsercurlwhatsercurl Posts: 4,049Registered Users
    I'm not the best at discerning all the chemical names but I don't think most of the Curl Junkie products have parabens or PVP.

    If you go to the Curl Mart section of this site, you can select paraben free products as one of the options after you select the product type. Once you have that list you could look at the ingredients of the products that remain.

    I think that most gels do have PVP in them.

    Oh and I agree with Froggilore. FSG is a good option and super easy to make with many potential add-ins for more oomph.
    Current Products: CJ Products: CF, DF, CT, SG, AFG, CIAB AND CK is back!
    Current Experiment: S&C by D

    Curl Fix and Daily Fix are my HGs :love4:


    Sulphate and cone free since July 2007

    wavy/curly fine texture/medium porosity/medium-low density

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fwhatsercurl%2F" class="Popup

    PW: wavycurly

    Seek not to change the world. Rather seek to change your mind about the world.
  • zcurlygirlzcurlygirl Posts: 217Registered Users
    So I showed my mom the ingredients in the Curl Junkie products, and she likes those a lot better. I also showed her [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/AG-Recoil-p-24.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=ag-hair-cosmetics-recoil-curl-activator]Re:coil[/buylink] and she said she would think about it (progress ;)). :cheers:

    Which Curl Junkie products would you recommend for me based on my hair?

    Thanks again!
    2c/3a/3b
    Co-Wash: TJ's Nourish
    Conditioner: 1/2 TJ's Nourish, 1/2 AO Honeysuckle Rose
    Leave-in: GDLI, CJ Curl Assurance
    Love: Pineappling, FSG and this website!
    CG Since Sept. 5th, 2009!!!:thumbup:

    With the help of StruttsWife's E-book:
    Normal Porosity, Fine Texture (who would've thunk!), normal elasticity, and medium density.

    PM me if you have suggestions for my hair (i.e. product, etc.), help would be very much appreciated!
  • whatsercurlwhatsercurl Posts: 4,049Registered Users
    Other than curl type what are your hair's other properties? If you know those, you can actually go to the Curl Junkie website and there is a matrix that says which products work best.

    The ones I use are listed in my siggie as are my hair properties.
    Current Products: CJ Products: CF, DF, CT, SG, AFG, CIAB AND CK is back!
    Current Experiment: S&C by D

    Curl Fix and Daily Fix are my HGs :love4:


    Sulphate and cone free since July 2007

    wavy/curly fine texture/medium porosity/medium-low density

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fwhatsercurl%2F" class="Popup

    PW: wavycurly

    Seek not to change the world. Rather seek to change your mind about the world.
  • zcurlygirlzcurlygirl Posts: 217Registered Users
    I just bought StruttsWife's Live Curly Live Free E-book, which helped a lot in determining my hair properties. So from my hair "experiments," my hair properties are:

    - normal porosity
    - fine texture
    - normal elasticity
    - medium density (normally, but I went through a period of hair loss following a bout of pneumonia, so it's just now growing in)

    So I was thinking that the [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curl-Junkie-Curl-Assurance-Leave-in-Conditioner-p-936.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=Curl-Junkie-Curl-Assurance-Leave-In-Conditioner]Curl Assurance Leave-in Conditioner[/buylink] and the Gelee look right for me.

    What do you think?
    2c/3a/3b
    Co-Wash: TJ's Nourish
    Conditioner: 1/2 TJ's Nourish, 1/2 AO Honeysuckle Rose
    Leave-in: GDLI, CJ Curl Assurance
    Love: Pineappling, FSG and this website!
    CG Since Sept. 5th, 2009!!!:thumbup:

    With the help of StruttsWife's E-book:
    Normal Porosity, Fine Texture (who would've thunk!), normal elasticity, and medium density.

    PM me if you have suggestions for my hair (i.e. product, etc.), help would be very much appreciated!
  • whatsercurlwhatsercurl Posts: 4,049Registered Users
    Same hair characteristics as me. :)

    I use the Gelee and just last night tried the Curl Fix as a leave in. It has a whack of protein so my curls are nice and bouncy today. It's meant to be a Protein Treatment left on your hair while under a dryer or a hot towel. But it also says on the bottle that it can be used as a leave in and styler too. I'll be trying it as a multi-day styler this week.

    Some others are really liking it also.

    Curl Fix as a Leave In

    I've heard others really like the Curl Assurance though. And honestly, I haven't tried a CJ product that I didn't like in some way, shape or form.
    Current Products: CJ Products: CF, DF, CT, SG, AFG, CIAB AND CK is back!
    Current Experiment: S&C by D

    Curl Fix and Daily Fix are my HGs :love4:


    Sulphate and cone free since July 2007

    wavy/curly fine texture/medium porosity/medium-low density

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fwhatsercurl%2F" class="Popup

    PW: wavycurly

    Seek not to change the world. Rather seek to change your mind about the world.
  • zcurlygirlzcurlygirl Posts: 217Registered Users
    Haha, I didn't even realize that!

    By the curl fix I assume you mean the [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curl-Junkie-Curl-Assurance-Aloe-Fix-Hair-Styling-Gel-p-941.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=Curl-Junkie-Curl-Assurance-Aloe-Fix-Hair-Styling-Gel]Curl Assurance Aloe Fix Hair Styling Gel[/buylink]?

    Is the Gelee like a gel? I was looking for a harder gel over the FSG for more hold. Or maybe the [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curl-Junkie-Curl-Assurance-Aloe-Fix-Hair-Styling-Gel-p-941.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=Curl-Junkie-Curl-Assurance-Aloe-Fix-Hair-Styling-Gel]Curl Assurance Aloe Fix Hair Styling Gel[/buylink] will work for that purpose?

    I'm going to go ahead and order the Curl Assurance Leave-in, esp. since it's half-off!
    2c/3a/3b
    Co-Wash: TJ's Nourish
    Conditioner: 1/2 TJ's Nourish, 1/2 AO Honeysuckle Rose
    Leave-in: GDLI, CJ Curl Assurance
    Love: Pineappling, FSG and this website!
    CG Since Sept. 5th, 2009!!!:thumbup:

    With the help of StruttsWife's E-book:
    Normal Porosity, Fine Texture (who would've thunk!), normal elasticity, and medium density.

    PM me if you have suggestions for my hair (i.e. product, etc.), help would be very much appreciated!
  • whatsercurlwhatsercurl Posts: 4,049Registered Users
    No there's a new product called Curl Fix - Intense Hair Treatment.

    Link: Curl Fix

    And the gelee is more like a cream. It's sticky enough for me to use alone but it depends on how strong your curls are.

    I really like the [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curl-Junkie-Curl-Assurance-Aloe-Fix-Hair-Styling-Gel-p-941.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=Curl-Junkie-Curl-Assurance-Aloe-Fix-Hair-Styling-Gel]Aloe Fix[/buylink] Gel but I have to use a hard hold gel over top of it. It has very little hold. It was designed for much curlier hair like type 4.

    There's a sale at the Curl Junkie site where I like the Curl Fix from you might want to check out also. "Happy Holidays! This is the perfect time to celebrate the holiday season and end of the year! Starting on Christmas, Dec. 25th, 2009 through Dec. 31st, 2009 (11:59pm EST), we are offering 20% off your order of $50 or more! Just type in the code "HAPPY1" at checkout! Enjoy
    Current Products: CJ Products: CF, DF, CT, SG, AFG, CIAB AND CK is back!
    Current Experiment: S&C by D

    Curl Fix and Daily Fix are my HGs :love4:


    Sulphate and cone free since July 2007

    wavy/curly fine texture/medium porosity/medium-low density

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fwhatsercurl%2F" class="Popup

    PW: wavycurly

    Seek not to change the world. Rather seek to change your mind about the world.
  • zcurlygirlzcurlygirl Posts: 217Registered Users
    What hard hold gel do you use on top of it? Do you know of any that my mother might possibly approve of?

    Thanks for all of your help! I'm looking forward to trying these new products. :)
    2c/3a/3b
    Co-Wash: TJ's Nourish
    Conditioner: 1/2 TJ's Nourish, 1/2 AO Honeysuckle Rose
    Leave-in: GDLI, CJ Curl Assurance
    Love: Pineappling, FSG and this website!
    CG Since Sept. 5th, 2009!!!:thumbup:

    With the help of StruttsWife's E-book:
    Normal Porosity, Fine Texture (who would've thunk!), normal elasticity, and medium density.

    PM me if you have suggestions for my hair (i.e. product, etc.), help would be very much appreciated!
  • whatsercurlwhatsercurl Posts: 4,049Registered Users
    Unfortunately probably none of them would be mom approved. I'm currently using LA Looks, but I've used BRHG, HESMU.

    Also I've made my own FSG in the past and added Agave nectar to it for hold. I think some have trouble with it this time of year but if your mom has agave (I keep it in the house for a sweetener) it might be worth a try. I only add about 1 tsp to a batch.

    There's a HUGE thread on FSG that might give you some ideas. Or Botticellibabe makes it and sells it on Etsy and will make it your specifications.
    Current Products: CJ Products: CF, DF, CT, SG, AFG, CIAB AND CK is back!
    Current Experiment: S&C by D

    Curl Fix and Daily Fix are my HGs :love4:


    Sulphate and cone free since July 2007

    wavy/curly fine texture/medium porosity/medium-low density

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fwhatsercurl%2F" class="Popup

    PW: wavycurly

    Seek not to change the world. Rather seek to change your mind about the world.
  • zcurlygirlzcurlygirl Posts: 217Registered Users
    Oh well...

    I'm going to try the agave added to the FSG.

    Thanks again!
    2c/3a/3b
    Co-Wash: TJ's Nourish
    Conditioner: 1/2 TJ's Nourish, 1/2 AO Honeysuckle Rose
    Leave-in: GDLI, CJ Curl Assurance
    Love: Pineappling, FSG and this website!
    CG Since Sept. 5th, 2009!!!:thumbup:

    With the help of StruttsWife's E-book:
    Normal Porosity, Fine Texture (who would've thunk!), normal elasticity, and medium density.

    PM me if you have suggestions for my hair (i.e. product, etc.), help would be very much appreciated!
  • Heather0kayHeather0kay Posts: 667Registered Users
    There are PVP's in almost everything! Try AOMM for the "cleanest" gel. Curl's or [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curly-Qs-Curly-Q-Gel-lesc-p-944.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=Curly-Q-Curl-Gel-Les-C]Curly-Q Gel-les'c[/buylink] has no PVP or parabens. I rotate products so I am not using the same chemicals over and over.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Type: 3a, fine, thin, low porosity Water/Climate: soft/ marine Washes: water w/washcloth, shikakai, clay Condition: Style:Seamollient, CurlsPFCCP, Miracurl, Gel-les'c, CK; rudeechick's super soaker method; blot, air dry 30 min; diffuse
  • jrad20jrad20 Posts: 60Registered Users
    You can try [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Max-Green-Alchemy-Scalp-Rescue-Texture-Paste-p-969.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=Max-Green-Alchemy-Scalp-Rescue-Texture-Paste]Max Green Alchemy Scalp Rescue Texture Paste[/buylink] which has more of a light but concentrated cream consistency. I believe the ingredients would appeal to you and your mom plus its 40% off through curlmart!
    Discounted natural and hair products at www.iherb.com
    iherb $5 off discount code: LIF812
  • zcurlygirlzcurlygirl Posts: 217Registered Users
    Yes, from my searches I've found PVPs in a LOT of products. Thanks for the product suggestions! I have yet to order the leave-in, but I will today. High school is very demanding...

    Thanks again!
    2c/3a/3b
    Co-Wash: TJ's Nourish
    Conditioner: 1/2 TJ's Nourish, 1/2 AO Honeysuckle Rose
    Leave-in: GDLI, CJ Curl Assurance
    Love: Pineappling, FSG and this website!
    CG Since Sept. 5th, 2009!!!:thumbup:

    With the help of StruttsWife's E-book:
    Normal Porosity, Fine Texture (who would've thunk!), normal elasticity, and medium density.

    PM me if you have suggestions for my hair (i.e. product, etc.), help would be very much appreciated!

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