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why wont my hair SHINE?

so it looks shiny in photos, but up close the curls are kind of fluffy and lacking in lustre - not the shiny gorgeous locks you see on tv ads. i KNOW silicones are supposed to make shine, but i want my hair to shine naturally. its not dry or frizzy or in bad condition. just really lacking a natural shine.

any tips on how to make it shine? or any thing that could be stopping it from shining? i'm thinking overconditioning (once again!) may be a cause, as if its too conditioned it doesnt clump as well hence theres less clumps to shine off. but isnt shine a product of really healthy hair?!

cleanse: OS shampoo. PureNuffStuff cleanser.
condition: Aussie 3MM. Jessicurl Aloeba.
style: B2Basics GreenTeaGel. T&G Curl Balm. JCarter Nourish&Shine.


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  • medusahairmedusahair Posts: 3,515Registered Users
    Blonde curly hair is harder to get a shine. Your hair looked shiny in the pics when you use TooShea and when you use Recoil
    Just all the conditioner I used on my hair makes mine shine usually but sometimes some gels or cremes will dull the shine, I take a couple of drops of jojoba oil and smooth it on the canopy of my hair
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  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users
    I agree with medusahair. Curly hair is harder to shine than stright, and lighter harder than darker.

    I only get shine if it's from a camera flash. I quit worrying about it. I'll leave the shine to my straighter haired and darker haired sisters.


    ETA: I believe that the shine on ads is a different type of cg - computer generated.
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  • pitgirlpitgirl Posts: 162Registered Users
    I think as long as curls are defined they don't need to be too glossy.

    As you know I am growing out some blonde highlights, which I have a semi permenant colour on to blend them in.
    At the same time I have a CLEAR semi permanent dye put on which works like a serum but has no cones in it.
    My hairdresser describes it as a varnish.

    Its quite good, makes a definate difference.

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  • lushaholiclushaholic Posts: 2,180Registered Users
    jenny, I can't remember if you've tried them or not, but cold honey rinses are good for shine.
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  • KurleeKurlee Posts: 1,354Registered Users
    Mine doesn't wanna shine so much either, but it does shine these days much more than it used to.

    I have noticed that products with citrus stuff makes my hair shine more.
    Also if I put in a little bit of oil (I use Jessicurls oil blend).

  • b1dd5b1dd5 Posts: 87Registered Users
    lushaholic wrote:
    jenny, I can't remember if you've tried them or not, but cold honey rinses are good for shine.

    i always rinse my hair with cold water after i co wash and condition. How could i incorporate honey into it? Spoonful of honey into some water and then rinse or into conditioner and then rinse??
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  • one way streetone way street Posts: 772Registered Users
    Olive oil makes my hair shine.
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  • lushaholiclushaholic Posts: 2,180Registered Users
    b1dd, I just fill up a plastic cup with about 1.5 cups of cold water, then add about 1-2tbs of honey, put the lid on and shake it up really well to dissolve the honey, then pour it all over my hair as a final rinse after I've conditioned. :)
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  • b1dd5b1dd5 Posts: 87Registered Users
    pour it over your hair? Is that the rinse or do you rinse that rinse?!?! hehehe
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  • lushaholiclushaholic Posts: 2,180Registered Users
    Lol, that's the 'final' rinse. After I condition, I rinse however much of that I want to rinse out, and then I do the cold honey rinse as the final thing before leaving the tub/shower. I bend over and concentrate on pouring it along the lengths of the hair. Although I realize you probably wouldn't need to do that since your hair is significantly shorter. ;)
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  • b1dd5b1dd5 Posts: 87Registered Users
    Thanks luch! Although i might be gettin too carried away wityh all you girls!!! Do i want curly AND shiny hair?!?! Or should a guy just settle with curly and defined?

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  • jennyfurrensjennyfurrens Posts: 708Registered Users
    thanks for the tips girls. i especially agree with red about the computer generated shine!

    i'll try a cold honey rinse - i've done warm rinses before, but not used honey in a while as i was sure it was contributing to over conditioning. i do remember from my first honey wash that my hair was shinier though! :) will keep you updated on how it goes :wink:

    cleanse: OS shampoo. PureNuffStuff cleanser.
    condition: Aussie 3MM. Jessicurl Aloeba.
    style: B2Basics GreenTeaGel. T&G Curl Balm. JCarter Nourish&Shine.


    pw: curlywurly
  • gryantmarch2stepgryantmarch2step Posts: 454Registered Users
    I also have blonde curls and grrrrr SHINE. I've found that honey helps. Also, Jane Carter Nourishing Cream and LLL Coco Light for me.

    I get so frustrated when I see brunettes with silky, shiny curls. Why can't I have that too?!! :x
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  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    Gels make my hair shiny. Certainly not computer-enhanced, shampoo-commerical reflective, but a lot glossier than most straight hair. (And yeah, in commericals they use special styling, lighting, filters, and computers to make the hair look like that...and come to think of it, probably a lot of hairpieces, too!)

    Pretty much any gel will give me this effect. Maybe you should try switching gels, since I've never tried Pantene. Or maybe you coult play around with the way you apply products. But you know, your hair looks so cool anyway, I think that just having sheen is enough!
  • amandagamandag Posts: 24Registered Users
    Like others said, cold water helps smooth the hair cuticle and that can help with shine. It's good for your skin too.
  • jennyfurrensjennyfurrens Posts: 708Registered Users
    yeh i've been doing a cold water rinse after conditioning for months in my quest for shine. will add honey next time. it's good to hear i'm not the only blonde curly feeling a bit shine-less hehe. i really do need to find a new gel - its so hard to find some in the UK that are CG friendly and dont dry my hair out. even some with 'ok' ingredients (no alcohols etc) still make my hair feel like straw!

    cleanse: OS shampoo. PureNuffStuff cleanser.
    condition: Aussie 3MM. Jessicurl Aloeba.
    style: B2Basics GreenTeaGel. T&G Curl Balm. JCarter Nourish&Shine.


    pw: curlywurly
  • esmeraldaesmeralda Posts: 187Registered Users
    ACV really makes my hair shine!!
    Also, check out Phyto Huile D"Ales...its expensive, but fantastic!!
    Its an oil & you get 5 minidoses in one package.
    You leave it on for an hour & rinse it out, dont worry even if your hair doesnt like oil-mine doesnt, but it loves this!!

    Even guys comment on how shiny my hair is when I use it!!
    Its quite expensive, so I only use it before parties :D
    Also, I think its CG.
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  • JellyJelly Posts: 9Registered Users
    esmeralda wrote:
    ACV really makes my hair shine!!
    Also, check out Phyto Huile D"Ales...its expensive, but fantastic!!
    Its an oil & you get 5 minidoses in one package.
    You leave it on for an hour & rinse it out, dont worry even if your hair doesnt like oil-mine doesnt, but it loves this!!

    Even guys comment on how shiny my hair is when I use it!!
    Its quite expensive, so I only use it before parties :D
    Also, I think its CG.

    I did a search for shine-creating products this morning and of the list, found only this one and the Kenra platinum grooming pomade. I picked this one up and want to thank you for the rec!

    It really does add shine, and not in a crazy, "I just used a shine serum" fake way. I love that it goes on before you wash/condish, so you don't have to risk additional frizz by working it through when your hair's dry. It cost me $26 for the five bottles, which doesn't seem like sooo much when I figure I'll only use one once every other week or so. (I try to rationalize, anyway!)
    3c, chin-length. Natural since 2002 and loving it! Nursed hair to health and now only need two products: Elucene Moisture Balancing condish and Enjoy Sulfate-Free poo. EVOO (or Ojon, if I get a sample) as DT. Don't be afraid of conditioner!
  • JellyJelly Posts: 9Registered Users
    esmeralda wrote:
    ACV really makes my hair shine!!
    Also, check out Phyto Huile D"Ales...its expensive, but fantastic!!
    Its an oil & you get 5 minidoses in one package.
    You leave it on for an hour & rinse it out, dont worry even if your hair doesnt like oil-mine doesnt, but it loves this!!

    Even guys comment on how shiny my hair is when I use it!!
    Its quite expensive, so I only use it before parties :D
    Also, I think its CG.

    I did a search for shine-creating products this morning and of the list, found only this one and the Kenra platinum grooming pomade. I picked this one up and want to thank you for the rec!

    It really does add shine, and not in a crazy, "I just used a shine serum" fake way. I love that it goes on before you wash/condish, so you don't have to risk additional frizz by working it through when your hair's dry. It cost me $26 for the five bottles, which doesn't seem like sooo much when I figure I'll only use one once every other week or so. (I try to rationalize, anyway!)
    3c, chin-length. Natural since 2002 and loving it! Nursed hair to health and now only need two products: Elucene Moisture Balancing condish and Enjoy Sulfate-Free poo. EVOO (or Ojon, if I get a sample) as DT. Don't be afraid of conditioner!
  • JellyJelly Posts: 9Registered Users
    Arg. It told me it didn't connect the first time. Double post.
    3c, chin-length. Natural since 2002 and loving it! Nursed hair to health and now only need two products: Elucene Moisture Balancing condish and Enjoy Sulfate-Free poo. EVOO (or Ojon, if I get a sample) as DT. Don't be afraid of conditioner!
  • sfisher323sfisher323 Posts: 537Registered Users
    lushaholic wrote:
    jenny, I can't remember if you've tried them or not, but cold honey rinses are good for shine.


    Honey can make color fade, right? Or did I make that up? I've been wanting to try these honey rinses, but I also love my dye job. :wink:
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  • meriellynmeriellyn Posts: 1,135Registered Users
    ACV makes my hair pretty shiny. The generic KPac protein treatment does as well, but that'd only work if your hair likes protein.
    Honey makes my hair super shiny. I'd add a bit to my conditioner or deep treatment and it definitely cranked up the shine considerably. I've never tried the cold-rinse technique.
    Jojoba oil works well too.
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  • medusahairmedusahair Posts: 3,515Registered Users
    sf honey lightens the hair yes. It brings out red highlights in mine and I'm not even coloring. That's just lightening my natural color.

    Jennyfurrens did try honey. She has some pics in her www clickie.
    Honey doesn't add shine for me but [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Aloeba-Daily-Conditioner-p-104.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-aloeba-daily-conditioner]aloeba[/buylink] does. I just have to be careful how much I use as it will pull my curl out eventually. It takes about a week though of using it daily.
    My hair is dark so good conditioner or oil will add shine so maybe that's why it does that.
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  • lushaholiclushaholic Posts: 2,180Registered Users
    oops, sorry sf, I didn't see your post before. I guess honey probably could lighten up your coloring some yeah, but nothing dramatic. But then again, I use it regularly so I can't really tell if it's lightening mine or not. :?:
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