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Teleprompter Dependency

susancnwsusancnw Posts: 1,371Registered Users Curl Novice
Okay, I find this more than a little absurd.

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Why do you need TWO teleprompters and a podium to speak to a classroom of 6th graders?
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  • SpringcurlSpringcurl Posts: 8,002Registered Users
    Oh, who gives a crap? Sincerely.
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  • wild~hairwild~hair Posts: 9,890Registered Users
    susancnw, I love your sig. It reveals a lot about you.
  • anonymous_22139anonymous_22139 Posts: 659Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    susancnw wrote: »
    Okay, I find this more than a little absurd.

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whitehouse.gov%2Fblog%2F2010%2F01%2F19%2Fspeeding-race-top" class="Popup

    Why do you need TWO teleprompters and a podium to speak to a classroom of 6th graders?


    LOL, Well at least we know the President can read...and that's about all he can do.
  • PoodleheadPoodlehead Posts: 6,959Registered Users
    I guess you should dump Reagan as your personal hero too, then.

    Obama was giving a speech. He didn't use the teleprompters for the informal chat.
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  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Posts: 15,402Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Without teleprompters, Bush would have been struck dumb, same with Reagan, HW Bush and Clinton. What's your point?
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    WTF? All politicians use teleprompters. Even Saint Reagan used them.
  • susancnwsusancnw Posts: 1,371Registered Users Curl Novice
    wild~hair wrote: »
    susancnw, I love your sig. It reveals a lot about you.

    Thanks! Sowell is a personal hero. He's incredibly smart, but has a way of explaining things that goes right to the heart of things. I admit that I struggle with his books on economics, his books are race and cultural issues are really eye-opening. And he's very funny.

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    Guess I need to update the sig too...found a good one from Mark Twain.
    My son wears combat boots (and a parachute). So does my son-in-law.
    The older I get, the less patience I have with cleverness. Thomas Sowell.
    Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. Benjamin Franklin.
    Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. Mark Twain.

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  • susancnwsusancnw Posts: 1,371Registered Users Curl Novice
    I'm well aware that politicians use teleprompters all the time. I think he uses them with alarming frequency, but few politicians are good at off the cuff...and it is often very revealing. I think these two blogs are funny as hell.

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    The video on the blackberry blog is funny. It's from the Onion and I laughed hysterically too on the stuff they did on Bush. And watch the video to the end...the shot at Reagan is a good one.

    Why was he giving a speech to 6th graders? Couldn't he just have had them come to the White House and stand around like he did the doctors?

    And if education is so important, why didn't he step in when the DC school district decided to deny vouchers so the kids could get out of lousy schools and go to a better school. Incidentally, some of those kids that were getting vouchers and scholarships were going to the school where his daughters go.

    Like I initially said, it looks absurd for him to be in an elementary school accompanied by the Podium and Teleprompter.

    I wonder if there is a 12 step program for teleprompter dependence? He's not real good when TOTUS has a malfunction.
    My son wears combat boots (and a parachute). So does my son-in-law.
    The older I get, the less patience I have with cleverness. Thomas Sowell.
    Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. Benjamin Franklin.
    Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. Mark Twain.

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  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Posts: 15,402Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    susancnw wrote: »
    He's not real good when TOTUS has a malfunction.
    At least he can still form words in the English language.

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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    susancnw wrote: »
    He's not real good when TOTUS has a malfunction.
    At least he can still form words in the English language.

    Dubya Speaking?



    God Damn, that Bush was an Empty Vessel. Stupid as the day is long. And the Conservatives want to elect the other Empty Vessel to high office too (Palin).
  • anonymous_22139anonymous_22139 Posts: 659Registered Users Curl Neophyte
  • NalliaNallia Posts: 2,979Registered Users
    susancnw wrote: »
    I'm well aware that politicians use teleprompters all the time. I think he uses them with alarming frequency, but few politicians are good at off the cuff...and it is often very revealing. I think these two blogs are funny as hell.

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    The video on the blackberry blog is funny. It's from the Onion and I laughed hysterically too on the stuff they did on Bush. And watch the video to the end...the shot at Reagan is a good one.

    Why was he giving a speech to 6th graders? Couldn't he just have had them come to the White House and stand around like he did the doctors?

    And if education is so important, why didn't he step in when the DC school district decided to deny vouchers so the kids could get out of lousy schools and go to a better school. Incidentally, some of those kids that were getting vouchers and scholarships were going to the school where his daughters go.

    Like I initially said, it looks absurd for him to be in an elementary school accompanied by the Podium and Teleprompter.

    I wonder if there is a 12 step program for teleprompter dependence? He's not real good when TOTUS has a malfunction.
    It's not his job to micromanage what goes on in Washington DC or anywhere else in the country. Isn't there a mayor? A school Superintendent?

    People seem to love to put more on the President than is his right and responsibility.
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  • Cali ChikCali Chik Posts: 1,494Registered Users
    OP really is reachin right now.
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  • tendrillytendrilly Posts: 183Registered Users
    Kitschy wrote: »

    I'd already seen the Jon Stewart clip -- hilarious.

    To be fair to Obama, I believe he was giving a speech to the press, and not just talking to the sixth graders.

    Sure, all presidents use the Teleprompter. The problem is, when something is starting to make you look bad (as Obama's use of them is), if you are politically savvy you will try to limit that. Otherwise, it just gives cheap shots (or, some may say, legitimate shots) to the comedians, the media, and of course your political opponents. In politics, as unfair as it may be (just ask Bush), the famous saying is: "perception=reality." So you've got to be aware of how you are being perceived and not "step in it." For example, in about 2003, once we were in Iraq (or was it earlier, when we went to Afghanistan? I cannot remember when exactly), Bush stopped playing golf. He felt that it looked bad to have the POTUS out playing golf while our troops are out there at war. He knew that the press, the Democrats, et al., would have a field day with images of him playing golf in a time of war. It might not be fair (Obama plays golf all he wants, just like other presidents use Teleprompters), but that's the way the political and PR games work.
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  • PoodleheadPoodlehead Posts: 6,959Registered Users
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  • VanedaVaneda Posts: 402Registered Users
    Obama did very nicely in the Q&A with the GOP today.....all without the use of a teleprompter.
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  • mandatoryfunmandatoryfun Posts: 878Registered Users
    tendrilly wrote: »
    Sure, all presidents use the Teleprompter. The problem is, when something is starting to make you look bad (as Obama's use of them is), if you are politically savvy you will try to limit that. Otherwise, it just gives cheap shots (or, some may say, legitimate shots) to the comedians, the media, and of course your political opponents. In politics, as unfair as it may be (just ask Bush), the famous saying is: "perception=reality." So you've got to be aware of how you are being perceived and not "step in it." For example, in about 2003, once we were in Iraq (or was it earlier, when we went to Afghanistan? I cannot remember when exactly), Bush stopped playing golf. He felt that it looked bad to have the POTUS out playing golf while our troops are out there at war. He knew that the press, the Democrats, et al., would have a field day with images of him playing golf in a time of war. It might not be fair (Obama plays golf all he wants, just like other presidents use Teleprompters), but that's the way the political and PR games work.

    Bush wouldn't play golf because it reflected badly on him in a time of war...but he thought it'd be acceptable to take more vacation days than any other president ever??? LOL, what a shrewd politican!!!

    I can think of worse things than "teleprompter dependency," or enjoying a game of golf from time to time. How about being a war criminal? Lololol!

    You know what? I don't really care if Obama uses a prompter. I really don't. Do whatever you need to do to make Americans look good again, buddy. And I don't think most people care, honestly...I follow the BBC, The Wall St. Journal, The New York Times and occasionally AP, which seems like a pretty good spread to me. I've never heard anything about Obama's prompter dependency, and I've certainly never heard of this "TOTUS." It only seems to bother the most conservative of NC.com posters, and you've all hated Obama from the start, anyway.
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  • BoomygrrlBoomygrrl Posts: 4,940Registered Users
    Vaneda wrote: »
    Obama did very nicely in the Q&A with the GOP today.....all without the use of a teleprompter.

    I was about to say this, but you beat me to it.

    Really, every president had used teleprompters. Why is it an issue now? It seems like the republican pundits want to find anything and everything to criticize Obama and have amnesia when it comes to their own guys. Puleeeeze!
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  • BoomygrrlBoomygrrl Posts: 4,940Registered Users
    So now Obama is in charge of Washing DC education system? Really?
    He doesn't have that kind of power.
    The repubs like to spin his every move...it's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
    Had he tried to change anythign in the local politics, he would be overstepping his boundaries...if he doesn't, then he incompetent, right?
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  • badgercurlsbadgercurls Posts: 3,077Registered Users
    It's entertaining, but I think it simply says more about our current ultra-mediated time than about President Obama. Politicians of all stripes get into trouble when they go "off prompter." In an age of YouTube, Twitter, 24-hour cable news, the Daily Show, the Colbert Report,etc., a tiny gaffe or awkwardly-phrased comment can become a big issue. When a figure is as visible, powerful, and under as much scrutiny as the president, it's probably better to risk being made fun of for using the teleprompter too much than to risk saying something stupid off-the-cuff.

    And speaking from manuscript is nothing new, though the teleprompter technology is fairly new. Indeed, since George Washington, presidents have been using prepared manuscripts for public speaking. There are really fascinating archived speech manuscripts from Lincoln's presidency in his handwriting with commentary from several other advisers.

    Ronald Reagan was excellent delivering scripted speeches in a way that seemed off-the-cuff; his training as an actor helped. If you're interested, Peggy Noonan's What I Saw at the Revolution details a lot of the preparation that went into Reagan's speeches.
  • cakj99cakj99 Posts: 575Registered Users
    bump

    well, it could be worse.

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  • mandatoryfunmandatoryfun Posts: 878Registered Users
    *LC* wrote: »
    bump

    well, it could be worse.

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    Wow!!! She spews the same garbage so often, you think she'd have it memorized by now.

    I wrote notes on my hand when I gave a speech for a high school election...it didn't end well!
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  • susancnwsusancnw Posts: 1,371Registered Users Curl Novice
    You've never heard of TOTUS? It made quite a few headlines on quite a few stations around the country, mostly cable such as CNN, Fox, MSNBC (I think). I think it's actually pretty clever. But I enjoy satire and irony as well as slapstick so...

    He made a campaign stop here in my town the Sept before the election. Out of curiosity, I wanted to know the total price for that visit. Cost the city a LOT of money in overtime pay, didn't bring in near what was projected and I have no idea if we've even been paid yet. And the teleprompters were there. Did you know that they are mounted high so that he appears to be looking up and out? Just one of those little things about his image that are carefully crafted.

    I was wrong to bring up the DC vouchers. Overall in our schools though, the feds need to get out of it. Control back to the states as it seems that since the feds took over, the schools have been dumbing down and teaching to the lowest common denominator in many cases. That is why we took our kids out of the regular public schools and put them in a charter school. No tuition as it is part of the regular school system. No teacher union either. Teachers don't want it. But they have proven time and again that when you challenge the kids, they will rise up. Our oldest daughter was held back in 5th grade. She sulked for 3 months (plus the summer). Then she buckled down to study.
    In December, she received her acceptance letter to Elmhurst College, right outside Chicago. She also received a President's Scholarship for $68K for 4 years. That will pay about half of it. She wouldn't have done it without an scholastic atmosphere that challenged and rewarded her. She busted her ass for it and we are very proud of her. Add that to the modeling agency she signed with that month and it was very surreal. She's very well rounded, but if she had not been inspired and challenged, it would not have happened. We don't teach the test, it is a classical education. I would love to see every school return to a basic education, learn it and move on to better achievements in middle and high school. My kids have been able to carry on intelligent, reasoned conversations in literature, history and art since early high school. I credit a great deal of that to their education and to the atmosphere of learning we foster. I know not every kid has that advantage. Many of their classmates don't...but they are challenged and rewarded at school.

    Sorry for the off topic, but I find the extreme usage of teleprompter tedious.
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  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    *LC* wrote: »
    bump

    well, it could be worse.

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    I was going to post this same thing!! This is Sarah Palin's version of a teleprompter!! Too freaking funny. And in the same speech she bashed Obama for using a teleprompter. I would rather have that than having a potential presidential candidate who acts like she is in freaking high school!!
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  • anonymous_22139anonymous_22139 Posts: 659Registered Users Curl Neophyte
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  • Cali ChikCali Chik Posts: 1,494Registered Users
    I personally don't think there is anything wrong with her having notes on her hand.
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  • mandatoryfunmandatoryfun Posts: 878Registered Users
    So, Kitschy, you think Obama's speeches are wasteful because they create jobs?
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  • wild~hairwild~hair Posts: 9,890Registered Users
    Palin writing on her hand would be fan-flippin'-tastic if I could make sense out of anything she says.

    As it stands, however, it seems like a waste of good ink [and later, soap].
  • anonymous_22139anonymous_22139 Posts: 659Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    So, Kitschy, you think Obama's speeches are wasteful because they create jobs?

    You are a very creative thinker.
  • 3cCurly3cCurly Posts: 114Users Awaiting Email Confirmation
    Theres nothing wrong with having notes on your hand or reading from a teleprompter.

    But jotting notes on your hand is a hundred times better than reading word by word, line by line without a single thought but to read is so robotic like.lol:laughing4:
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