the best curl definer (and maker) Ive ever used

I was at whole foods about a week ago and and i got a bunch of different things i thought i could use for hair. So of course when i came home i start mixing up concotions and testing them and having a good time. lol. anyway, I ended up making an amazing curl definer. I've been using it for about week now, and it hasnt failed to put lots of wave into my straight-haired roots. So I figured I'd put up the recipe for all curly girls :

Ingredients:
half a cup of warm water
2 tablespoons epsom salt
1.5 teaspoons jojoba oil

Just mix it in a bowl or cup and wait till the epsom salt is close to being fully dissolved. Then just pour it into a spray bottle, and use!
Hopefully you guys like it :]

2c/3a
Growing out hair to a little above bsl
pw: ringlets
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  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Posts: 15,402Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Hey, all I need is the epsom salts. This sounds better than glycerin based sprays...I'll try it. May not work on my hair though -- every commerical curl-reviving spray I've tried on dry hair has been a frizz-reviver instead :o

    ETA - and this one did too :( I officially give up on curl-reviving sprays. One less area for my PJ to act out.
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  • wild_sasparillawild_sasparilla Posts: 4,306Registered Users
    Fantastic! Now I really want to get to the store...meh. Well, anyway, I have waves with some ringlets too, and this sounds great!

    Do you think another oil would work?
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  • unique1193unique1193 Posts: 328Registered Users
    Karenmc3 wrote:
    Hey, all I need is the epsom salts. This sounds better than glycerin based sprays...I'll try it. May not work on my hair though -- every commerical curl-reviving spray I've tried on dry hair has been a frizz-reviver instead :o

    ETA - and this one did too :( I officially give up on curl-reviving sprays. One less area for my PJ to act out.

    aww Im sorry :[ why dont you try playing around with the amount of salt and jojoba? When I first made my spray I put WAY too much salt in the mix for my hair and I was a frizzball. But when i lowered it to fit my hair, it actually started taking frizz away from my hair. weird, but good. :]

    2c/3a
    Growing out hair to a little above bsl
    pw: ringlets
  • unique1193unique1193 Posts: 328Registered Users
    Fantastic! Now I really want to get to the store...meh. Well, anyway, I have waves with some ringlets too, and this sounds great!

    Do you think another oil would work?

    definitley as long as it moisturizes. Ive found that a moisturizing oil helps balance out the drying properties of the salt.
    Good luck with making it :]

    2c/3a
    Growing out hair to a little above bsl
    pw: ringlets
  • sherry7899sherry7899 Posts: 897Registered Users
    Hi,

    I just made some, and it worked! I had to add a little extra epsom salt.

    Two questions, please:

    does epsom salt dry out your hair?
    does this need to be refrigerated, or should it be okay kept in the bathroom?

    I'm going to try it tomorrow morning for second day hair. It would save me so much money if this consistently works!

    Thank you-
    Sherry
  • RedheadCurly2007RedheadCurly2007 Posts: 230Registered Users
    I was wondering the same thing about epsom salt. I was considering using some today, ironically I came accross this great curl definer concoction. I, myself, was feeling like an Einstein Mad Hair Scientist while I was cooking my homade spray gel from CG. LOL Fun Fun Fun
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  • parcipanyparcipany Posts: 35Registered Users
    I just strated playing aroung with epsom salt myself and having great results. Originally I started making the "Homemade All in One Spray" but needed to make moderations by getting rid of the conditioner (it made my hair fluffy). However, the salt is giving me really great curls!
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  • katethegreatkatethegreat Posts: 801Registered Users
    Does the epsom salt actually make your hair curlier, or just better defined?
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  • HalfWavyHalfCurlyHalfWavyHalfCurly Posts: 907Registered Users
    For me it does both. Since I have fine hair I have to use WAY less E.S. and no oil. I had not noticed this thread so I put the plain recipe under "Epsom Salt Rinse" with suggestions for variations (I used honey in mine).

    Ideally it should be made with distilled water and kept in the fridge. The container and all ingredients would have to be completely sterile (and who can do that!) for any homemade recipe to be kept out without refrigeration even for a few days.
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  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 20,722Registered Users, Curl Ambassador Curl Virtuoso
    Hey, all I need is the epsom salts. This sounds better than glycerin based sprays...I'll try it. May not work on my hair though -- every commerical curl-reviving spray I've tried on dry hair has been a frizz-reviver instead :o

    ETA - and this one did too :( I officially give up on curl-reviving sprays. One less area for my PJ to act out.

    I can't use sprays either. Frizz city. What I do is put this (or any other spray concoction) in a cup and pour it over my wet hair as a final rinse, before adding my gel.
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  • HalfWavyHalfCurlyHalfWavyHalfCurly Posts: 907Registered Users
    I really prefer to use it that way too but right now I'm using a home made flax seed gel to which I added the E.s. and it's working pretty well for me.
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  • flcurlyflcurly Posts: 42Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    HalfWavyHalfCurly

    How much epsom salt do you put into your aloe gel? How much would you put into 1 cup of aloe gel?

    Thanks

    Currently I'll put into 1 cup of aloe gel 2 drops of agave nectar (for hold) and 1 drop of glycerin (for shine/moisture).
  • HalfWavyHalfCurlyHalfWavyHalfCurly Posts: 907Registered Users
    What I'm using is not aloe gel, it's flax seed gel. I started out with 3/4 tsp. E.s. for the 1 C. of flax gel the recipe makes and it didn't do much so I added more after reading the minimum total amount of salts in the spray was 2 tsp., but then it was too much for me (my hair looked dull and didn't feel right) so I had to fix a little more gel to dilute it. So I would guess somewhere between 1 and 1 1/2 tsp. would be about right.

    But since you mentioned AVG, I have to add that twice I mixed the FSG with FOTE AVG and honey and those were the very best days, my hair looked and behaved as well as with any store-bought gel and I had no trouble getting 2nd day hair. I hear agave works even better than honey so this could be a real winner for you.
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    "Converting the 'curlskeptics' one curly head at a time..." HWHC ;-)
  • SacristiaSacristia Posts: 2Registered Users
    I tried the curling spray recipe and it works good, but it is making my hair dry and crunchy feeling so I think it has to do with too much Epsom salt and not enough oil. As well it might be the winter air too. I am working on it because I would love to use this instead of having to buy a $4.00 bottle of the expensive stuff.

    Thank you so much for the recipe. :o)
  • SacristiaSacristia Posts: 2Registered Users
    I tried the curling spray recipe and it works good, but it is making my hair dry and crunchy feeling so I think it has to do with too much Epsom salt and not enough oil. As well it might be the winter air too. I am working on it because I would love to use this instead of having to buy a $4.00 bottle of the expensive stuff.

    Thank you so much for the recipe. :o)
  • flcurlyflcurly Posts: 42Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Halfwavyhalfcurly....

    Thanks for your reply. Sorry I meant flax seed gel. What I tried today was this and had fantastic results!

    2/3 cup flax seed gel
    1/4 teaspoon epsom salt
    2 drops agave nectar
    2 drops infusium conditioner
    1 drop rose fragrance oil
    Shake vigorously!

    I scrunched the above into wet hair, plopped for 10 minutes, and used my ionic drier on low for approx. 20 minutes. Got good curl formation, minimal crunch. Really happy with this new concoction!
  • HalfWavyHalfCurlyHalfWavyHalfCurly Posts: 907Registered Users
    Sacristia:

    Reduce the E.s., apparently it's too much for your hair, especially right now as you pointed out. Also, maybe during the winter you should try a variation of the "All In One" recipe (no gel) which basically is adding a teaspoon of CO to the spray (besides a few drops of oil). Some people prefer using vegetable glycerin instead of oil, supposedly it adds shine and moisturizes as well.

    flcurly:

    That sounds good! I've heard agave works even better than honey :). It's really cool when we can find something that does the job, costs so little and is also easy to make!
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  • jersey8jersey8 Posts: 195Registered Users
    I'm assuming it probably wouldn't be best to use table salt, right? I've been looking for epsom salt and have been unable to find it.
    2b, low porosity, high density, fine, loves protein
  • flcurlyflcurly Posts: 42Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    You can find epsom salt at Wal-Mart in their pharmacy area. It is about $2 for a half gallon size container. I think CVS & Walgreens also carries it. Hope this helps.
  • jersey8jersey8 Posts: 195Registered Users
    I was actually at Walgreens. I couldn't find it in the beauty section, so I asked and the lady told me it was with the regular salt. ...And it wasn't. But I found some at the grocery.
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  • jujucabanajujucabana Posts: 153Registered Users
    i'm scared of using salt in my hair ...but i will try it bcause all of the advice in these boards has been great for my hair.
  • HalfWavyHalfCurlyHalfWavyHalfCurly Posts: 907Registered Users
    jersey8 wrote:
    I was actually at Walgreens. I couldn't find it in the beauty section, so I asked and the lady told me it was with the regular salt. ...And it wasn't. But I found some at the grocery.

    For next time: Epsom salt is usually kept in the pharmaceutical section, near the bandages and wound healing ointments and such at my local Walgreen's. The Dollar Tree also sells it (and other dollar stores) in their "Health" section.
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    "Converting the 'curlskeptics' one curly head at a time..." HWHC ;-)
  • chandistarrchandistarr Posts: 38Registered Users
    Does anyone know how long this recipe lasts in the fridge? I wonder if adding some grapefruit seed extract would make it last out of the fridge?
  • kcckcc Posts: 681Registered Users
    This thread has inspired me! I'm going to Whole Foods tomorrow to get jojoba eo and epsom salt! I've been missing John Frieda's Sea Salt Spray. Does anyone think this is similar?
    And you know, I'm really not totally sold on the sandwich idea. They're kind of traditional, I know I said that, don't question me about that, but they aren't really all that chic, you know? --fig jam
  • GrecianCurlsGrecianCurls Posts: 256Registered Users
    i really wouldn't use table salt!! Have you tried a pharmacy (sorry... drug store if you're in the states)... its also used as a remedy for muscle pain and occassional constipation!
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  • TasharellaTasharella Posts: 88Registered Users
    Would any kind of sea salt work for this? Could I use bath salts? I found a cool lavender bath salt that smells awesome and we be cool if I could use it.
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  • chandistarrchandistarr Posts: 38Registered Users
    Is this used on soaking wet hair as a rinse and then is gel used after the hair has been dried a little with a microfiber towel? Thanks
  • HalfWavyHalfCurlyHalfWavyHalfCurly Posts: 907Registered Users
    Would any kind of sea salt work for this? Could I use bath salts? I found a cool lavender bath salt that smells awesome and we be cool if I could use it.

    If you have the list of ingredients and it doesn't contain anything strange you can use it but don't put 2 Tbsp., it would be way too much for sea salt.
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  • HalfWavyHalfCurlyHalfWavyHalfCurly Posts: 907Registered Users
    Is this used on soaking wet hair as a rinse and then is gel used after the hair has been dried a little with a microfiber towel? Thanks

    I have used mine as a leave-in rinse follopwed by gel, also as a touch in a small spray bottle up when my roots didn't curl.
    2A/3A, medium length, layered, colored dark/medium ash blonde - "CGer" since April '02.

    "Converting the 'curlskeptics' one curly head at a time..." HWHC ;-)

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