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Black Soap

iriskurliriskurl Posts: 5Registered Users
I have been using Black Soap to wash my hair for the past 6 months and having really good results. I find it cleanses my hair without drying it out, defines my curls, and reduces shrinkage. It also makes whatever conditioner I use more potent.

I would love to know if any one has had any hair experience with Black Soap, I know it's great on the skin but I am really surprised at how it's working on my hair.

I used it a few years ago and it just seemed to strip and dry out my hair. So I am not sure why it is working out so well this time around. Should I expect my hair to start drying out again in the next few months?

Also what's the best way to store shampoo bars?
Hair Type - 4a/b
Shampoo - Black Soap
Condition - Jessicurl Too Shea, Blended Beauty Conditioner
Moisturise and Style -NaturalCurls LeaveIn Cream, Jane Carter LeaveIn Conditioner, .


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  • jamaicantwisterjamaicantwister Posts: 39Registered Users
    I have been using black soap for about the last 2-3 months of my natural journey. I used Giovanni Tea Tree before to clarify but for some reason I gravitate towards the black soap. I notice all the benefits that you have stated. I started using it cause T'Keyah Crystal Keymah uses it and she has lovely natural hair since her days on In Living Color. I just try to avoid getting it wet so I alternate between a soap dish and a plastic baggy to preserve it.
  • iriskurliriskurl Posts: 5Registered Users
    Plastic bag ... hadn't thought of that. Thank you. Love
    T'Keyah Crystal Keymah, one of my original natural hair inspirations.
    Hair Type - 4a/b
    Shampoo - Black Soap
    Condition - Jessicurl Too Shea, Blended Beauty Conditioner
    Moisturise and Style -NaturalCurls LeaveIn Cream, Jane Carter LeaveIn Conditioner, .


  • bluemonday12bluemonday12 Posts: 4Registered Users
    I never thought to try it for a shampoo, although I've read of it being used for it. I tried it this weekend and OMG it was totally awesome! I had curl definition out of this world!!!! And I could definitely tell the difference with my conditioner. Certainly came out softer. :laughing7:I'm hooked!
  • MixedUpCurlyChickMixedUpCurlyChick Posts: 2,568Registered Users
    I use black soap as a low poo as well. I got the idea from ShawnyBlazes in a thread about something unrelated lol. I have heard some ppl experience dryness, but I haven't and its been a few mths. It may depend on which one u use? I use Nubian Heritage brand as it has no parabens, propyls/glycols, mineral oil etc.

    I've been told there's not much of a difference between using black soap or a shampoo bar. I plan to stick with it b/c I can get it on the ground and its pretty cheap.
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  • janeylizjaneyliz Posts: 777Registered Users
    Apologies for wandering over into 4a, but I've used black soap on my hair for the last 2 weeks. The one I've used is only shea butter and coconut oil saponified with burned cocoa pods so I figured it wasn't making me deviate from the CG path. My hair has been fantastic - amazingly soft with the best definition ever - and I've been using it on my skin and my cystic acne has cleared up.
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    Wash: Anita Grant babassu bar
    Leave-in: Body Shop cotton seed curl boost with manuka honey mixed in
    Gel: Umberto Giannini Curl Friends scrunching gel
    Odds & ends Lime juice, honey, Anita Grant cafe latte
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  • sobecurlsobecurl Posts: 313Registered Users
    I use african black soap 90% of the time when I shampoo and have been for almost a year now. Some people mention that soaps can make your hair overly-porous, but I really like the results I get with black soap.

    My hair never feels stripped but my scalp always feel clean. I wash once weekly and exercise a lot during the week so I can end up with buildup on my scalp. I have tried to do the co-wash only route and my scalp never gets fully clean no matter how I try to scrub. Black soap has been the perfect middle ground for my hair and scalp since it cleanses without stripping.

    Sometimes I will use another poo-bar, but my staple is black soap. For me it's cheaper and more effective than experimenting with other shampoos.
    Over 10 years natural and still growing...
  • socoilysocoily Posts: 54Registered Users
    Do you need to do an ACV rinse after shampooing with black soap?
  • MixedUpCurlyChickMixedUpCurlyChick Posts: 2,568Registered Users
    sobecurl wrote: »
    I use african black soap 90% of the time when I shampoo and have been for almost a year now. Some people mention that soaps can make your hair overly-porous, but I really like the results I get with black soap.

    My hair never feels stripped but my scalp always feel clean. I wash once weekly and exercise a lot during the week so I can end up with buildup on my scalp. I have tried to do the co-wash only route and my scalp never gets fully clean no matter how I try to scrub. Black soap has been the perfect middle ground for my hair and scalp since it cleanses without stripping.

    Sometimes I will use another poo-bar, but my staple is black soap. For me it's cheaper and more effective than experimenting with other shampoos.

    Hey Sobe, what other poo bars have you found to be comparable? Just curious...
    socoily wrote: »
    Do you need to do an ACV rinse after shampooing with black soap?

    Why would u need an ACV afterward?
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  • LhoreSpencerLhoreSpencer Posts: 474Registered Users
    I tried the DUDU OSUN liquid soap... my hair was just COMING out!!! I'm wondering if it's because it has other ingredients. I'm going to try the Ghanian black soap... I like that one better for my skin anyways!!!
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    Falling deeper and deeper and deeper in :love4: with my beautiful mixture of springy, tight coils and super duper kinks.

    *SIGH* Alas, I've come to accept my shrinkage and fairy knots :angry7:

    There are no magic potions, concoctions, elixirs, or pills for hair growth, weight loss, or financial independence... so stop looking for a quick fix!!!
  • socoilysocoily Posts: 54Registered Users
    [quote=I've been told there's not much of a difference between using black soap or a shampoo bar. I plan to stick with it b/c I can get it on the ground and its pretty cheap.[/quote]

    I've heard that one should do an ACV rinse after using shampoo bars to rebalance your hair's pH and close the hair cuticle since shampoo bars are on the basic side of things (which can make your hair too porous and cause breakage). So if black soap is like a shampoo bar I was wondering if you should ACV afterwards like a shampoo bar.
  • sobecurlsobecurl Posts: 313Registered Users
    I've heard about poo-bars making your hair overly porous as well, but I just rinse with cold water after I condition to close the cuticle. I'm not really into the ACV rinses. In the year that I have been using black soap, I haven't experienced any breakage.

    Another product I use on rare occasion is the Dr. Bronner Shikakai conditioning rinse. It is a thick brown liquid you dilute in water and rinse your hair with to acidify and close the cuticle. I tried it a few times and didnt really notice a difference so it's not a regular in my routine.

    @MixedUpCurlyChick - the other poo bars I use is Anita Grant's babassu amla shampoo bar and her Organic Kelp and babassu bar. I bought them during a splurge I made when AG had free shipping. They are nice, but I buy my African Black soap from Bar and butters and there I can get 1lb of black soap for $7. During my last purchase I bought the 6lb pack for $30 so economically that is much better than AGs 4oz for almost $14 (with conversion and shipping).

    I've been wanting to try Oyin's poo bar and AVs carrot seed bar as they have received good reviews, but I think that is more of the PJ in me. I am quite happy with the results I get from black soap. Really no need for me to spend that much on trying something else.
    Over 10 years natural and still growing...
  • socoilysocoily Posts: 54Registered Users
    Thanks for your input sobecurl. I just bought some black soap from butters-and-bars too and I want to make sure that I'm using it right. I don't like to ACV rinse either, so I'm glad to hear that a cold water rinse does the job. Hopefully I'll have as much success with black soap as you have :happy3:
  • MixedUpCurlyChickMixedUpCurlyChick Posts: 2,568Registered Users
    I feel the same way. The PJ in me is rather curious lol but it doesn't make sense when I can get my black soap on the ground.

    So...what is this "butters and bars" you ladies speak of? Never heard of it but of course I'm curious lol...must.google.now :walk:
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  • SugarNutsSugarNuts Posts: 250Registered Users
    Ok.......what black soap bar are you using? I've noticed a few in Sally's, but I don't know. I don't want to put the wrong thing in my hair.
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    Last Relaxer: May/June 2008
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    Shampoo: White Vinegar

    Deep Con. Treat.: Aussie 3-min. & Olive Oil
    Final Wash: Nexxus Humectress
    Moist. Spritz: Glycerin, Water, Proclaim 7-Olive Oil, Suave Extreme Leave-In

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  • sobecurlsobecurl Posts: 313Registered Users
    If you are going to use black soap make sure you get the real stuff. Real african black soap is actually more amber in color. I get mine online from bars-n-butters. They also sell unrefined shea butter for very reasonable prices. The black soap you find at Sally's or any other BSS is not the real stuff. You'd be better off trying a local african shop for it if you don't want to order online.
    Over 10 years natural and still growing...
  • janeylizjaneyliz Posts: 777Registered Users
    Some black soaps use shea butter and coconut oil, others shea and palm oil.

    Any view on which is best?
    Marchioness Chinoise in the land of Mancunia Productia Junkia in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

    DT: AOHR
    Wash: Anita Grant babassu bar
    Leave-in: Body Shop cotton seed curl boost with manuka honey mixed in
    Gel: Umberto Giannini Curl Friends scrunching gel
    Odds & ends Lime juice, honey, Anita Grant cafe latte
    I brush with a Tangle Teezer & love Flexi-8's
    www.public.fotki.com/janeyliz
    www.thelilyfoundation.org.uk
  • Kinks74Kinks74 Posts: 394Registered Users
    janeyliz wrote: »
    Some black soaps use shea butter and coconut oil, others shea and palm oil.

    Any view on which is best?

    Some have shea butter, coconut oil and palm oil all mixed in.

    I started using ABS a couple of months ago to low-poo with good results. It doesn't strip and my hair seems to love it. :icon_smile:
    Kinks, kinks and more kinks :rolleyes:
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Current Goodies: KBB Hair Mask, KBB Deep Condish, JC WDT, Oyin Juices & Berries, Oyin Shine & Define, Oyin Whipped Pudding
    Faves & Raves: Oyin Juices & Berries, KBB Deep Condish, JC WDT, CBSS WSHP, KCCC, Henna :love4:
    Not so Goodies: Proteins & heavy oils...
    Current Challenge: kinky & twisted! (ahem, two-strand twisted) :toothy7:
  • LhoreSpencerLhoreSpencer Posts: 474Registered Users
    I must say that I will continue to use Ghanian black soap as my shampoo. My hair felt WONDERFUL... not stripped or crunchy, but squeaky clean and moisturized (?). Never felt any moisturization (new word) from a shampoo before, but man I am quite happy with the results. I purchased my chunk from B-n-B as well, even though I can get it from the ground. But I've had bad experiences when purchasing black soap from the African shops in the city... so B-n-B will be where I purchase. I bought the 30lb (? can't remember, but it's the largest portion she offers) and I am pleased with the quality I received. I love what it does for the skin too.
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    Falling deeper and deeper and deeper in :love4: with my beautiful mixture of springy, tight coils and super duper kinks.

    *SIGH* Alas, I've come to accept my shrinkage and fairy knots :angry7:

    There are no magic potions, concoctions, elixirs, or pills for hair growth, weight loss, or financial independence... so stop looking for a quick fix!!!
  • sobecurlsobecurl Posts: 313Registered Users
    I bought my black soap from bars-n-butters and I am very happy with the quality and pricing. I have given it to family members along with their unrefined shea butter (which I need to re-order). I dont think I will every use shampoo again, since this works great with my hair.
    Over 10 years natural and still growing...
  • MixedUpCurlyChickMixedUpCurlyChick Posts: 2,568Registered Users
    I must say that I will continue to use Ghanian black soap as my shampoo. My hair felt WONDERFUL... not stripped or crunchy, but squeaky clean and moisturized (?). Never felt any moisturization (new word) from a shampoo before, but man I am quite happy with the results. I purchased my chunk from B-n-B as well, even though I can get it from the ground. But I've had bad experiences when purchasing black soap from the African shops in the city... so B-n-B will be where I purchase. I bought the 30lb (? can't remember, but it's the largest portion she offers) and I am pleased with the quality I received. I love what it does for the skin too.

    Lhore, I get my ABS on the ground at the beauty supply store of Fairway. I know ur a city girl so I just wanted to chime in. I've bought it off the street from the vendors but I started to wonder if Nubian Heritage was profiting from that so now I usually get it from Fairway. I did it a whoke bunch from some BSS before that though.
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  • LhoreSpencerLhoreSpencer Posts: 474Registered Users
    I've went to the African stores and some how since "we" have gotten wise to it's benefits, they've done stuff to the soap... it either doesn't smell right or something. Even the SheaButter... it's either greenish or oily looking.
    I never thought of Fairway. My question is how much is it, cuz I know Fairway is quite pricey (or at least so I've heard).
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    Falling deeper and deeper and deeper in :love4: with my beautiful mixture of springy, tight coils and super duper kinks.

    *SIGH* Alas, I've come to accept my shrinkage and fairy knots :angry7:

    There are no magic potions, concoctions, elixirs, or pills for hair growth, weight loss, or financial independence... so stop looking for a quick fix!!!
  • MixedUpCurlyChickMixedUpCurlyChick Posts: 2,568Registered Users
    Well at the BSS its about $2.50. Its about that price or a little more at Fairway (I can find out exactly next time I go there). I only buy Nubian Heritage. So I just get it wherever they have it. If they don't have that brand, I don't shop there. It costs about $4 at WH so I don't bother with them. I get most of my stuff at Fairway bc WH really charges way too much for natural stuff. Fairway tends to be more fair (no pun intended lol).
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  • soulsalsasoulsalsa Posts: 119Registered Users
    Has anyone tried the new Black Soap Shampoos from buttersnbars? I've been on the lookout for a protein free shampoo that can moisturize my hair but clean well too.

    I have my eye on the Conditioning Shampoo...
    Ingredients: Natural Raw Black Soap Base, Cassia Powder, Grapeseed Oil, Rosehips, and Basil essential Oil

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    3b/3c::.thick::.porous::.med-normal texture
    Wash: Desert Essence Red Raspberry
    Condish: BellaCurl Condish
    Leave-in: BellaCurl Elixir
    Style: Giovanni LA Natural Gel or KMF UM Gel/BC Gellie/SS Emollience
    DT: SS Deeply Decadent
    Trying: Bella Curl
    Color: Jamila Henna

    "...there is no beauty in the finest cloth if it makes hunger and unhappiness..."-Ghandi
  • LhoreSpencerLhoreSpencer Posts: 474Registered Users
    Hmmm looks interesting... but since I have such big chunks left over, I probably can make my own liquid black soap. If you try it though, please report your experiences.
    FdQlm4.png
    Falling deeper and deeper and deeper in :love4: with my beautiful mixture of springy, tight coils and super duper kinks.

    *SIGH* Alas, I've come to accept my shrinkage and fairy knots :angry7:

    There are no magic potions, concoctions, elixirs, or pills for hair growth, weight loss, or financial independence... so stop looking for a quick fix!!!
  • soulsalsasoulsalsa Posts: 119Registered Users
    My order of black soap and the Herbal Shampoo came in today. Good thing as I'm planning on experimenting with my hair today.

    The black soap smells like soap, heh, and the Herbal Shampoo smells more like the Grapefruit oil in it. Will report back to compare the two on how well it cleanses and moisturizes.
    Hair Inspirations: My Lil Sis/MIKA/Vashtie Kola
    3b/3c::.thick::.porous::.med-normal texture
    Wash: Desert Essence Red Raspberry
    Condish: BellaCurl Condish
    Leave-in: BellaCurl Elixir
    Style: Giovanni LA Natural Gel or KMF UM Gel/BC Gellie/SS Emollience
    DT: SS Deeply Decadent
    Trying: Bella Curl
    Color: Jamila Henna

    "...there is no beauty in the finest cloth if it makes hunger and unhappiness..."-Ghandi
  • soulsalsasoulsalsa Posts: 119Registered Users
    Hair's all washed and dry now. :happy7: I washed my hair in two sections, one with the black soap bar and the other with the Herbal shampoo.

    The black soap lathered well and made my hair feel soft when it washed out. The Herbal shampoo lathered just a bit more than the bar. I felt the same softness as the black soap when washed out as well. Though my hair clumped better with the black soap. So far both seem the same in moisturizing and cleaning. I think it comes down to convenience of ease and smell. The difference was really minimal as the smell didn't linger anyways.

    I'll be testing it out for the long run since past experiences have taught me otherwise. Really hoping the soap bar will not cause any waxy buildup I usually get from my hard water. Good option for those looking for a moisturizing low-poo without any protein.
    Hair Inspirations: My Lil Sis/MIKA/Vashtie Kola
    3b/3c::.thick::.porous::.med-normal texture
    Wash: Desert Essence Red Raspberry
    Condish: BellaCurl Condish
    Leave-in: BellaCurl Elixir
    Style: Giovanni LA Natural Gel or KMF UM Gel/BC Gellie/SS Emollience
    DT: SS Deeply Decadent
    Trying: Bella Curl
    Color: Jamila Henna

    "...there is no beauty in the finest cloth if it makes hunger and unhappiness..."-Ghandi
  • LhoreSpencerLhoreSpencer Posts: 474Registered Users
    ^^^ thanks for the update.

    I do agree with you on the clumping... I've noticed that my hair clumps very nicely with the black soap. I only wish it would dry as nicely. Alas...
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    Falling deeper and deeper and deeper in :love4: with my beautiful mixture of springy, tight coils and super duper kinks.

    *SIGH* Alas, I've come to accept my shrinkage and fairy knots :angry7:

    There are no magic potions, concoctions, elixirs, or pills for hair growth, weight loss, or financial independence... so stop looking for a quick fix!!!
  • curlyconfusion87curlyconfusion87 Posts: 34Registered Users
    My g/f uses Omololu Liquid Black Soap to shampoo her hair and claims that it leaves her hair detangled, clean but moisturized and also minimizes dry scalp and dandruff. She says she's used it about 3 or 4 times over the course of 4 months (she usually washes her hair once a month). Her hair is a mix of fine strands majority 4a/4b and a few 3c like coils. She gets this product from her grandma but I found a website where you can order it, if you want to try it. I think I will try it soon myself to see if it works on coarser hair types such as my own.

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  • PolarisPolaris Posts: 18Registered Users
    I did use black soap once and my hair came out in clumps in the shower :dontknow::sad5:. It's great for my face and body, but for my hair.....no way.
  • soulsalsasoulsalsa Posts: 119Registered Users
    Updating my experience with the shampoo. I really wanted to like it but my hard water just leaves a waxy buildup on the scalp anytime I use a soap based shampoo. I had the same experience with KBB shampoo bars.

    I say if your hair does well with shampoo bars or you do not have hard water, this is a great product to clean and moisturize the hair at the same time.

    I used the rest of it as a body wash, the grapefruit was a great uplifting smell.
    Hair Inspirations: My Lil Sis/MIKA/Vashtie Kola
    3b/3c::.thick::.porous::.med-normal texture
    Wash: Desert Essence Red Raspberry
    Condish: BellaCurl Condish
    Leave-in: BellaCurl Elixir
    Style: Giovanni LA Natural Gel or KMF UM Gel/BC Gellie/SS Emollience
    DT: SS Deeply Decadent
    Trying: Bella Curl
    Color: Jamila Henna

    "...there is no beauty in the finest cloth if it makes hunger and unhappiness..."-Ghandi
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