Female Chauvinist Pigs

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  • SpiralliSpiralli Registered Users Posts: 3,684 Curl Connoisseur
    I hve not read the book, but will read reviews to see if I want to read it, since you mentioned it! OT: I love your avatar. Always makes me smile when I see it. :)
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  • ResRes Registered Users Posts: 2,911
    It sounds very interesting.

    And thank you, it's my favorite smiley, the awesome smiley. :D
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Registered Users Posts: 31,259 Curl Connoisseur
    Yes, I read it a couple of years ago. I thought it was excellent. The author is pointing out that after decades of women fighting for equal rights, there seems to be a fairly recent trend, especially among younger women, to think that embracing raunch and porn for themselves somehow is proving their liberation and how they're actually oppressing themselves by doing this and also throwing away everything their fore-sisters have worked for.
  • ResRes Registered Users Posts: 2,911
    Yes, I read it a couple of years ago. I thought it was excellent. The author is pointing out that after decades of women fighting for equal rights, there seems to be a fairly recent trend, especially among younger women, to think that embracing raunch and porn for themselves somehow is proving their liberation and how they're actually oppressing themselves by doing this and also throwing away everything their fore-sisters have worked for.

    This is why I want to read it, I agree with her very much. When I read some of the reviews I thought she was agreeing with these women which would have disappointed me.
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  • CurlyHairedFarmerCurlyHairedFarmer Registered Users Posts: 3,079 Curl Connoisseur
    Yes, I read it a couple of years ago. I thought it was excellent. The author is pointing out that after decades of women fighting for equal rights, there seems to be a fairly recent trend, especially among younger women, to think that embracing raunch and porn for themselves somehow is proving their liberation and how they're actually oppressing themselves by doing this and also throwing away everything their fore-sisters have worked for.

    I read it as well, and I agree.
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  • twister89twister89 Registered Users Posts: 137
    That sounds fascinating. If I could find it at the local library, I'd definitely give it a read!
  • EilonwyEilonwy Registered Users Posts: 12,391 Curl Connoisseur
    I read it a couple of years ago. I thought that while it made some valid points, those points are very, very basic. Even people who think "feminism" is a dirty word have probably made those same observations on their own. (In fact, a lot of self-described "anti-feminists" like this book, mistakenly believing that the author is on their side.) Toward the end, it turned into a lot of fear mongering about urban legends like rainbow parties. I thought this book was a waste of time.

    Also, the title annoys the hell out of me. A chauvinist belongs to the group that she thinks is superior. A female chauvinist pig would be a woman who thinks that men are inferior to women.
  • CurlyHairedFarmerCurlyHairedFarmer Registered Users Posts: 3,079 Curl Connoisseur
    Eilonwy wrote: »
    I read it a couple of years ago. I thought that while it made some valid points, those points are very, very basic. Even people who think "feminism" is a dirty word have probably made those same observations on their own. (In fact, a lot of self-described "anti-feminists" like this book, mistakenly believing that the author is on their side.) Toward the end, it turned into a lot of fear mongering about urban legends like rainbow parties.

    I can't really agree with that. The majority of women I know think that dressing slutty, and aspiring to be porn like is empowering to women. It is them 'expressing' themselves, and showing men they cannot be censored. In reality, they are doing exactly what most men want.
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  • EilonwyEilonwy Registered Users Posts: 12,391 Curl Connoisseur
    I can't really agree with that. The majority of women I know think that dressing slutty, and aspiring to be porn like is empowering to women. It is them 'expressing' themselves, and showing men they cannot be censored. In reality, they are doing exactly what most men want.
    Yeah, I guess it's possible that I was just never around many of those women. I still thought that the book is very basic if you have any opinions that could be considered feminist.

    I should add that a good thing about the book is that it's written in accessible, normal language. A lot of the feminist books and essays that offer more-complex ideas are written in needlessly opaque, overly academic styles.

    Still, for feminist critiques of pop culture and "common knowledge" assumptions and stereotypes, I would turn to Deborah Cameron. She's very insightful and has written a lot of great popular books and articles, in addition to necessarily jargon-y research articles.
  • CurlyHairedFarmerCurlyHairedFarmer Registered Users Posts: 3,079 Curl Connoisseur
    Eilonwy wrote: »
    I can't really agree with that. The majority of women I know think that dressing slutty, and aspiring to be porn like is empowering to women. It is them 'expressing' themselves, and showing men they cannot be censored. In reality, they are doing exactly what most men want.
    Yeah, I guess it's possible that I was just never around many of those women. I still thought that the book is very basic if you have any opinions that could be considered feminist.

    I should add that a good thing about the book is that it's written in accessible, normal language. A lot of the feminist books and essays that offer more-complex ideas are written in needlessly opaque, overly academic styles.

    Still, for feminist critiques of pop culture and "common knowledge" assumptions and stereotypes, I would turn to Deborah Cameron. She's very insightful and has written a lot of great popular books and articles, in addition to necessarily jargon-y research articles.

    I agree that many of the ideas were basic and simple, but I think it is something teenage girls really need to read. It seems generations are just getting worse and worse.

    I did like that the language was kept simple. She didn't attempt to write it in such an academic form that an ordinary person wouldn't be able to read it.
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  • EilonwyEilonwy Registered Users Posts: 12,391 Curl Connoisseur
    By the way, bell hooks has written a lot of great books on the ways sex, class, and race intersect to affect the African American community. She's definitely worth checking out.
  • fraufrau Registered Users Posts: 6,130 Curl Neophyte
    curls2grow wrote: »
    OT: I love your avatar. Always makes me smile when I see it. :)
    me too! i'm always reminded of my ex's baby whenever i see it.
  • EilonwyEilonwy Registered Users Posts: 12,391 Curl Connoisseur
    I just remembered...According to that book, Jimmy Kimmel thinks that women are too b*tchy to be friends with each other.

    Yet another reason to hate him.

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