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Hair is perfect, scalp hates me *Rant*

I am so frustrated about what to do with my itchy, dry, flaky scalp. I really thought that going CG would give me a happier, healthier scalp. Before I was CG, the only thing that seemed to help was to wash every day with some kind of dandruff shampoo, but I don't do that anymore. I have tried everything from switching to condish with all natural ingredients (thinking maybe I was sensitive to something in the V05 I had been using) to homemade scalp treatments. I have used tea tree shampoo and condish, scalp massage, and even put olive oil directly on my scalp. I ditched all my drug store styling products, thinking that they might contain drying agents or irritants and the only thing I use for styling is FSG and maybe a little leave-in. I can never have second day hair, because if I don't at least wet my head and massage my scalp a little bit, my head will itch all day long. I don't think I have dandruff, because it seems to be getting worse with the colder weather. That makes me think it's just dry skin...but geez...how much moisture could a scalp need to function normally??

I am just pi$$ed off...

If you got this far, thanks for listening. I seriously needed to vent. At least my hair looks fabulous.

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  • lazykerrilazykerri Posts: 650Registered Users
    Have you tried Nizoral shampoo? There is an over the counter or prescription strength version of it. I tried and it worked for me (the prescription one) but I ran out and the problem returned. Supposedly, it can "cure" dandruff. I think mine returned because it was a more stubborn fungal issue (I know, eww).

    I would recommend trying the over the counter one first. If that doesn't work, see your doctor and/or dermatologist to get the prescription (the doctor could probably prescribe it).

    When I use either type, I coat the length of my hair with a CG conditioner first and then apply the shampoo to my scalp and massage. Then rinse. I don't do a second shampoo or conditioner application.

    This is of course not CG. However, if it cures the issue for you, you could probably return to CG after treatment (it may take several weeks).

    HTH :)

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  • jay76jay76 Posts: 67Registered Users
    I am so frustrated about what to do with my itchy, dry, flaky scalp. I really thought that going CG would give me a happier, healthier scalp. Before I was CG, the only thing that seemed to help was to wash every day with some kind of dandruff shampoo, but I don't do that anymore. I have tried everything from switching to condish with all natural ingredients (thinking maybe I was sensitive to something in the V05 I had been using) to homemade scalp treatments. I have used tea tree shampoo and condish, scalp massage, and even put olive oil directly on my scalp. I ditched all my drug store styling products, thinking that they might contain drying agents or irritants and the only thing I use for styling is FSG and maybe a little leave-in. I can never have second day hair, because if I don't at least wet my head and massage my scalp a little bit, my head will itch all day long. I don't think I have dandruff, because it seems to be getting worse with the colder weather. That makes me think it's just dry skin...but geez...how much moisture could a scalp need to function normally??

    I am just pi$$ed off...

    If you got this far, thanks for listening. I seriously needed to vent. At least my hair looks fabulous.

    Have you seen any other dry, flaky, itchy patches on any other part of your body?

    The reason why I ask is because you may have a skin codition that may be causing the problem. You didn't state it but that might be an underling problem.

    I have seborria dermatitis (msp) and I have flare ups because of stress, change in temperature, and because the wind blows. But I really saw a difference when I stopped relaxing my hair and started the GC method.

    I hope you find some relief soon! Like you said at least you have fab hair.
    4b
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    6 month protective style: 10/10-4/11
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  • wavycurly40+wavycurly40+ Posts: 2,017Registered Users
    I am so frustrated about what to do with my itchy, dry, flaky scalp. I really thought that going CG would give me a happier, healthier scalp. Before I was CG, the only thing that seemed to help was to wash every day with some kind of dandruff shampoo, but I don't do that anymore. I have tried everything from switching to condish with all natural ingredients (thinking maybe I was sensitive to something in the V05 I had been using) to homemade scalp treatments. I have used tea tree shampoo and condish, scalp massage, and even put olive oil directly on my scalp. I ditched all my drug store styling products, thinking that they might contain drying agents or irritants and the only thing I use for styling is FSG and maybe a little leave-in. I can never have second day hair, because if I don't at least wet my head and massage my scalp a little bit, my head will itch all day long. I don't think I have dandruff, because it seems to be getting worse with the colder weather. That makes me think it's just dry skin...but geez...how much moisture could a scalp need to function normally??

    I am just pi$$ed off...

    If you got this far, thanks for listening. I seriously needed to vent. At least my hair looks fabulous.

    My dermaologist told me that Seborrheic Dermatitis can get worse in the winter because of lack of sunlight. He also said that SD is what a lot of people call dandruff, and that it's the same disorder that causes psoriasis on the skin. I don't know if all derms agree with him, since I've never heard anybody else say that here.

    I no longer buy the idea, popular here, that getting rid of SLS solves all scalp problems. It certainly wasn't true in my case.

    After much experimentation, I realized that I have to wet my hair and massage the scalp well every day. To me, it's worth it. I don't cowash, because that makes it worse -- I low 'poo every two or three days. I don't have to use SLS, most of the time, although I do use Nizorale once in a blue moon, and occasionally a prescription medicine (applied topically) for SD.

    Keep experimenting to see what works for you. But I wouldn't feel bad because cg is "supposed to" fix all scalp problems. I just don't think that's true. I certainly wish you well! I do think it's possible to control these things, if not stop them completely. You just have to find your own routine.

    Wurly and proud!
    Modified CG since 2008.
  • mlle_carriemlle_carrie Posts: 79Registered Users
    Awww...thanks for the words of wisdom ladies. It really is frustrating. I never thought about it being a skin condition because I don't have that problem anywhere else on my body. In fact, I think my skin is naturally pretty hydrated because whenever I use body lotion, it feels like it just lays on my skin and never sinks in...I feel slimy all day when I use it.

    Maybe I will break down and buy some Nizoral. As much as I want to be able to follow the CG method and not use a lot of harsh chemicals on my skin, I'm just not sure how much longer I can stand this!

  • 2poodles2poodles Posts: 2,480Registered Users
    I don't know if this list will help you, but I found it somewhere - it's a list of what to avoid if you have scalp sensitivities...

    Hair Cleansing Ingredients To Avoid:

    Sodium Lauryl Sulfate
    Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate
    Ammonium Laureth Sulfate
    Ammonium Xylene Sulfonate
    TEA Lauryl Sulfate
    Sulfur (in dandruff shampoos)
    Selenium Sulfide (in dandruff shampoos)
    Magnesium Sulfate
    Sodium Thiosulfate
    Sodium C14-16 Olefin Sulfonate
    Alkyl Sodium Sulfate
    Alkyl Benzene Sulfonate
    TEA-Dodecylbenzene
    Sodium C12-15 Alkyl Sulfate
    Sodium Dodecyl Sulfonate

    Hair Product Additive Ingredients To Avoid:
    Avocado
    Balm Mint
    Balsam
    Essential Oils
    Eucalyptus
    Grapefruit
    Horseradish
    Lavender Oil
    Lemon
    Lime
    Menthol
    Orange
    Papaya
    Peppermint
    Rose
    Sage
    Thyme
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  • rymorg2rymorg2 Posts: 2,571Registered Users
    Here's something else to consider.....

    I had that same issue for a long time. Like YEARS. I have some mild eczma, mostly in the winter, patchy over different areas of my body, but that's all I have with the rest of my body. My scalp itched EVERY DAY and I tried EVERYTHING.

    Turns out it was my hard water. The minerals/metals in it irritated my scalp. I even had a purifier on my showerhead but it didn't help for long.

    I figured this out when I started travelling for my job and my scalp got better. I don't live there anymore and my water where I live now isn't hard and I only have the occasional itching now.

    If you have hard water it's something to consider. HTH!
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  • bfly36bfly36 Posts: 126Registered Users
    Me and my son he is 15 had bad dandruff. We started rubbing coconut oil on scalp before shampooing ( just started CG so you can use how you feel is right depending if you still poo). Then we would shampoo it out. It took a few weeks but it has helped dramatically. Coconut oil is not very expensive and smells very good. I have also read but never tried taking ACV in a cotton swap and rubbing some (before washing hair) on the areas with dandruff then washing out. You may want to check out a book called the 24 hour Pharmacist, she talks about zinc deficiency in people that have alot of dandruff. Good Luck.
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    Conditioner: GVP,
    Leave Ins: KCKT, Shescentit LI
    Styling: ISO Bouncy Cream, DOC, HETT, KCCC

    Still trying to figure out what hair i have lol!!.

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  • luckycurlsluckycurls Posts: 83Registered Users
    I have seb. derm., and I haven't been able to give up all shampoo. I hadn't had a problem with it for years (using T/Gel or Selsun Blue). Then when I went CG I tried a non-sulfate shampoo that had worked for other curlies with SD. It worked for about a month, then I had a major outbreak on my scalp when the cooler weather hit! So I'm back to the T/Gel. I'm hoping when it's back under control I can just shampoo my scalp once a week or so.

    Many dandruff shampoos are very drying, and if it is psoriasis or SD they won't help anyway.
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    poo- T/Gel :-(
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    LI- Suave (summer), LOOC (winter)
    Styling- Biotera Curl Creme and Styling Glaze (summer), HETT gel (winter)
  • bergasaurusbergasaurus Posts: 375Registered Users
    I had enough scalp itch to be annoying for a while but not enough to drive me totally crazy...I found that straight aloe vera gel helped immensely. Very little itch now. I use my fingertips to rub it into my scalp and I'll put a little thru the rest of my hair although I don't think it does a lot for my curl.

    I've heard people suggest a brown sugar scrub too but I haven't tried that. You can also coat your hair in conditioner and use shampoo just on your scalp; the conditioner will help protect your hair from the poo.
    No cones since 08/25/09. Occasional low poo.
    Fine, normal to low porosity (still not sure which), ii, 3a/3b curls
    Playing with products: HEBE Mousse, BRHG, AOMM, HESMU. Nothing blows my mind just yet. :D
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  • CurlyCowgirlyCurlyCowgirly Posts: 295Registered Users
    Great ideas everyone!

    I've too have been experiencing this lately and am not sure if it's dandruff, product buildup, or dare I say it, a fungus.
    How can I figure out which one I have?

    If I go to scratch my scalp, I get white gunk under my nails. I've been using the same products & routine for at least a month now, and I'm also pretty careful to not get my leave-in nor my gel close to my roots.

    I wonder if it's my [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] poo or Suave Naturals co-wash building up. Could it even be from when I wash my face because the worst of it is along my hair line. Gels can cause flakes/buildup too, right? Has anyone experienced this with HESMU?

    I've tried doing TTO mixed with ACV and I've tried a brown sugar scrub.
    I think I'll use Kenra clarifying poo next showertime and stop co-washing for a while and see if that helps.
    What do you guys think?
    Low/Med porosity, very fine, low/med elasticity & density, 3A
    AKA hard to work with hair!


    Low-Poo: Kenra Volumizing shampoo, AG Fast Food shampoo
    CO: AG Ultramoist, AO GPB, Nature's Gate Aloe Vera
    Gel: GFCC mousse, HETT, Aquage Megagel
    Also: Aloe Vera juice or Alba Leave-in. Weekly ACV rinse.
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  • mlle_carriemlle_carrie Posts: 79Registered Users
    Great ideas everyone!

    I've too have been experiencing this lately and am not sure if it's dandruff, product buildup, or dare I say it, a fungus.
    How can I figure out which one I have?

    If I go to scratch my scalp, I get white gunk under my nails. I've been using the same products & routine for at least a month now, and I'm also pretty careful to not get my leave-in nor my gel close to my roots.

    I wonder if it's my [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] poo or Suave Naturals co-wash building up. Could it even be from when I wash my face because the worst of it is along my hair line. Gels can cause flakes/buildup too, right? Has anyone experienced this with HESMU?

    I've tried doing TTO mixed with ACV and I've tried a brown sugar scrub.
    I think I'll use Kenra clarifying poo next showertime and stop co-washing for a while and see if that helps.
    What do you guys think?

    This sounds a lot like my problem too. My itchiest, flakiest spots are around my hairline, especially right above and behind my ears and along my neck. I don't have it on the top of my head or on my crown and the thought did cross my mind that it might be my face wash (though I don't use that near the back of my neck). I thought about buildup too and used a baking soda rinse at one point which seemed to help a bit. I just bought a small bottle of Nizoral and I used it today. I seemed to have less itching, so I will continue to use it every few days until the bottle is gone at least, to see if it works. If not, I might try the coconut oil next.

  • CurlyCowgirlyCurlyCowgirly Posts: 295Registered Users
    This sounds a lot like my problem too. My itchiest, flakiest spots are around my hairline, especially right above and behind my ears and along my neck...I thought about buildup too and used a baking soda rinse at one point which seemed to help a bit.

    Same here- I have the itchies and flakies on the back of my neck. Sometimes I get 3 or 4 small scabs from scratching. :tongue6: I tried baking soda, and brown sugar scrubs and they didn't do anything for me.

    I PMed my curl-twin (SheBros!) and she gets this too and thinks it's build-up. I don't use 'cones, but I'm leaning towards it being build-up too... It didn't start til the weather changed, which is what is confusing me.

    I think I'm finding a solution though...
    The past two days/past two showers I've been doing ACV mixed w/ Epsom salt. I used a pretty undiluted amount too--I wanna say 1/2c ACV, 1/2c water and probably 2 spoonfuls of Epsom. Poured it on my hair, massaged in and let it sit for a minute or two. My flakes are 98% gone!! The first day (yesterday) I poo'ed with Kenra clarifying shampoo mixed w/ 5 drops of jojoba then conditioned. Today, I didn't shampoo at all, and I mixed 6 drops jojoba w/ my CO.

    I've also been massaging my scalp for about 5 mins each day with jojoba.
    Tomorrow I will lay off the ACV/epsom and just do a water-rinse then condition.

    It may be farewell to my beloved CO-washing. :sad7:
    Low/Med porosity, very fine, low/med elasticity & density, 3A
    AKA hard to work with hair!


    Low-Poo: Kenra Volumizing shampoo, AG Fast Food shampoo
    CO: AG Ultramoist, AO GPB, Nature's Gate Aloe Vera
    Gel: GFCC mousse, HETT, Aquage Megagel
    Also: Aloe Vera juice or Alba Leave-in. Weekly ACV rinse.
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  • bergasaurusbergasaurus Posts: 375Registered Users
    CurlyCowgirly- From what I've read, be careful with that much ACV. Too much can damage your hair. I've always seen recipes with a proportion of 1 or 2 tbsp to a cup of water. The massage with oil is probably helping your scalp more than the acv, that's my guess anyway. I'm not much of an expert.
    I was getting so much itch that I think I had scratches on my scalp, it was a little painful. I realize in retrospect that was a bit much. The aloe gave me instant relief, so I am convinced my scalp was dry. I've read that jojoba is close to the oils produced by the scalp so I bet that is helping you a lot. I may have to get some of that, in fact.
    No cones since 08/25/09. Occasional low poo.
    Fine, normal to low porosity (still not sure which), ii, 3a/3b curls
    Playing with products: HEBE Mousse, BRHG, AOMM, HESMU. Nothing blows my mind just yet. :D
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  • mlle_carriemlle_carrie Posts: 79Registered Users
    I used the Nizoral twice this week and my itching and flaking is gone. I even had second day hair in the middle of the week....and it didn't itch...even after the second day. I guess it's not 100% CG, but it seems like I will only have to use it every 3-4 days and maybe eventually I can cut back to once a week. It also doesn't seem to have any real effect on my hair. So, I can live with that, if it means not scratching my head all day and having to worry when I wear dark colors.

  • Mi_chelleMi_chelle Posts: 6Registered Users
    I haven't personally tried this(or heard about anyone else trying it) but I wonder...ok this is going to sound kinda gross...but instead of really ruining your hair with that Nizoral shampoo couldn't you get maybe similiar results with Monastat? I mean it's an anti-fungal cream vs an anti-fungal shampoo. AND if you google it you'll also find out that one of the side affects is that your hair will grow faster! Something to maybe consider.

    You'll probably still need to use another method to get rid of buildup in addition though.
    2c/3a curls. My hair is pretty overprocessed/fried from bleaching(all over) Starting the grow out process now. I want healthy long hair. KBB Milk, KC Knot Today, BB's Hair Butter, Suave Coco.
  • rosabearrrosabearr Banned Posts: 165Banned Users
    I can help you stop that itch how, I finally found some productst that would they might be cg and might now but, I got them at Sally Beauty

    1 - Procalim - Tea Tree - Leave IN
    2 - Loreal - Scalp Threapy
    3 - Proclaim - Olive Oil Mouisturize

    I guareent with olive oil is the best one but tea tree if you look in phrmacy secetion you can find a small green tea bottle pure for like 15.99


    Mi_chelle wrote: »
    I haven't personally tried this(or heard about anyone else trying it) but I wonder...ok this is going to sound kinda gross...but instead of really ruining your hair with that Nizoral shampoo couldn't you get maybe similiar results with Monastat? I mean it's an anti-fungal cream vs an anti-fungal shampoo. AND if you google it you'll also find out that one of the side affects is that your hair will grow faster! Something to maybe consider.

    You'll probably still need to use another method to get rid of buildup in addition though.
  • mlle_carriemlle_carrie Posts: 79Registered Users
    Mi_chelle wrote: »
    I haven't personally tried this(or heard about anyone else trying it) but I wonder...ok this is going to sound kinda gross...but instead of really ruining your hair with that Nizoral shampoo couldn't you get maybe similiar results with Monastat? I mean it's an anti-fungal cream vs an anti-fungal shampoo. AND if you google it you'll also find out that one of the side affects is that your hair will grow faster! Something to maybe consider.

    You'll probably still need to use another method to get rid of buildup in addition though.

    LOL, you know, I thought of that when I looked at the active ingredient (ketoconazole) on the Nizoral bottle. I used to work in a pharmacy and isn't it funny how the same medication can be found in foot creams, vaginal creams, and diaper rash creams, yet they are marketed for different ailments and people will just flat out refuse to buy "athlete's foot" cream for their baby's diaper rash, even if that is what the pharmacist recommends and it's half the price. Ah, the power of marketing! But I did think of that and also thought about the buildup as well and how would I apply it so that my roots don't look greasy? LOL, but you didn't gross me out...after all, this is a community of women who put KY jelly on their hair!

  • AlexjoujouAlexjoujou Posts: 2,364Registered Users
    I just thought I'd stop in and say that I think the fungal stuff works. My daughter has had very stubborn acne on her forehead and I'm going to CVS to get some Nizoral since I think it might be fungal related.

    I cannot do co-wash only. I have to use a poo or my scalp itches. I did find out that a great part of my "always" itchy scalp is due to SLS. I got rid of a lot of itchiness when I stopped using that type of sulfate..but not all of it. I do a lot of scalp massage and low poo every other day or every 3rd day and that is working very well.

    Thanks for the ideas everyone!!
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  • ChrsLvsBksChrsLvsBks Posts: 117Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I am dealing with an itchy scalp also. I used a mixture of aloe vera gel, neem oil (smells horribly), tea tree oil, jojoba oil and lavender EO. I sprayed it on my scalp and massaged it in. It relieved the dryness and I was able to not wash my hair for a week. I blame the dryness/itchiness on the weather changing in the Mid-Atlantic. I had dandruff before going CG and didn't have problems until a couple of weeks ago.
    Hair: coarse texture; low porosity; normal density and elasticity
  • CurlyCowgirlyCurlyCowgirly Posts: 295Registered Users
    CurlyCowgirly- From what I've read, be careful with that much ACV. Too much can damage your hair. I've always seen recipes with a proportion of 1 or 2 tbsp to a cup of water. The massage with oil is probably helping your scalp more than the acv, that's my guess anyway. I'm not much of an expert.
    Wow, I've always put about 4T ACV per 1c water and don't have any problems. I wonder if it's over time that ACV can ruin your hair. I'll be more careful! I've been kinda bad at remembering to massage my scalp w/ jojoba everyday, but I think what helped the most was to stop CO-washing and just do water rinses between low-poo's.
    I'm not sure if it's something in Suave Naturals CO causing the itchiness/flakiness, but I haven't had ANY scalp issues since the day I stopped CO-washing and did the ACV/epsom rinse.
    Alexjoujou wrote: »
    My daughter has had very stubborn acne on her forehead and I'm going to CVS to get some Nizoral since I think it might be fungal related.
    Tell us if it works! That's an interesting experiment!
    Low/Med porosity, very fine, low/med elasticity & density, 3A
    AKA hard to work with hair!


    Low-Poo: Kenra Volumizing shampoo, AG Fast Food shampoo
    CO: AG Ultramoist, AO GPB, Nature's Gate Aloe Vera
    Gel: GFCC mousse, HETT, Aquage Megagel
    Also: Aloe Vera juice or Alba Leave-in. Weekly ACV rinse.
    Wishlist: YTC low-poo, Elucence poo, Bioterra Curl Creme, AGEbeautiful Strengthening trtment, SS Repairing Protein Trtment, LuxyHair ext's
  • curlyevcurlyev Posts: 246Registered Users
    If I massage my hair too hard when I'm co-washing, it makes my head itch, but my head always itches the worst around this time of year. Going CG (modified) has made my head less itchy, except when I tried to use garnier as my co-wash, it irritates my scalp, but is fine as a rinse out. I have a few flakes, but it's WAY better. I worry about using strong oils on my hair due to its low porosity, but I have heard coconut oil is pretty light. I may try it. I am tempted to try olive oil, but I think I'd have to use a strong shampoo to get it out, and since I am trying to just co-wash, it might build up too much. Trial and error, I keep saying that over and over to myself. My curls look better, so I'm not giving up! ;)
    -3A, fine, very thick, normal por., normal elast., long, dye- free (CG since Nov. '11)
    -Low poo (As needed): CVS Argan Oil Renewing Shampoo
    -RO: GVP The Detangler
    -Styling: LALSG
    -PT: ION Effective Care (seldom)
    *I have learned that sometimes less is more when it comes to my hair*
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  • curlislandcurlisland Posts: 85Registered Users
    My scalp used to be dry and itchy until I started using aloe vera gel. I massage it into my scalp and it keeps it moisturised with zero flaking and itchiness! I also use aloe vera gel as a lightweight styler :)
    Hope this helps you out!
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    Condish: Alba Botanica Gardenia Hydrating Condish. Mill Creek Keratin. Aussie Moist.
    Leave in: Alba Botanica Leave In. Tresemme Naturals. Cantu.
    Seal: Whipped Shea Butter Mix.
    Styling: GF Pure Clean. EcoStyler Protein.
    Hair loves: Finger combing. Protein.
    Hair hates: Plopping.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    Great ideas everyone!

    I've too have been experiencing this lately and am not sure if it's dandruff, product buildup, or dare I say it, a fungus.
    How can I figure out which one I have?

    If I go to scratch my scalp, I get white gunk under my nails. I've been using the same products & routine for at least a month now, and I'm also pretty careful to not get my leave-in nor my gel close to my roots.

    I wonder if it's my [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] poo or Suave Naturals co-wash building up. Could it even be from when I wash my face because the worst of it is along my hair line. Gels can cause flakes/buildup too, right? Has anyone experienced this with HESMU?

    I've tried doing TTO mixed with ACV and I've tried a brown sugar scrub.
    I think I'll use Kenra clarifying poo next showertime and stop co-washing for a while and see if that helps.
    What do you guys think?

    This sounds a lot like my problem too. My itchiest, flakiest spots are around my hairline, especially right above and behind my ears and along my neck. I don't have it on the top of my head or on my crown and the thought did cross my mind that it might be my face wash (though I don't use that near the back of my neck). I thought about buildup too and used a baking soda rinse at one point which seemed to help a bit. I just bought a small bottle of Nizoral and I used it today. I seemed to have less itching, so I will continue to use it every few days until the bottle is gone at least, to see if it works. If not, I might try the coconut oil next.


    The affected areas you described are classic symptoms of seborrheic dermatitis.

    SD has a fungal component, so something with anti-fungal properties is your best bet, namely the Nizoral. I have to use shampoos with coal tar.......can be very drying and doesn't smell so hot, but it works.

    I've had this condition since I was 12 (I'm 41 now) and I've learned that control is the best way to keep outbreaks to a minimum. Meaning, as soon as I notice increased itching/flaking/inflammation, I use my medications immediately. SD will wax and wane.....the more u stay on top of flare-ups, the longer ur remission periods will be.

    A lot of ppl think the intense itching/flaking from SD means dryness.....but oftentimes the affected areas are greasy and oily. I know if I let my flareups go w/out intervention, the affected areas will "weep" a greasy oily exudate. All the affected areas of SD (hairline, nose corners, scalp, behind ears, chest) are sebum-producing areas of the body.

    I try to combat the drying effects of the shampoos by cowashing before and after....using olive oil and deep conditioning etc. The Deva stylist who cut me last suggested that I try to keep the shampoo on the scalp only....which is hard but does help.

    Also, when using the medicated shampoos.....wash/leave on for 3-5 mins/rinse out/wash a second time.....really helps for bad cases. Wreaks havoc on curly hair but REALLY gets the inflammation down. My derm specified this and it really does help. If u don't want to subject ur hair to 2 shampoos, leaving the lather on ur scalp, PUTTING ON A PLASTIC CAP and letting the lather sit on ur scalp for a bit works wonders too.

    I hope this helps someone....mine is sort of severe esp back in the day when my parents refused to let me get medical help for this. I get it on my chin, forehead, neck, and my eyebrows, too. If I let flareups go on w/out intervention, I get mild hair loss in the front. I'm not Caucasian, so when it goes into remission it leaves pale patches and I look like I have vitiligo. And if I really let things go, it actually becomes PAINFUL--the areas literally become raw, weepy, bright red and inflamed.

    Luckily my derm loads their pts up with samples of skin meds, esp uninsured pts like me. This plus nipping flare-ups in the bud have really kept mine under control.




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