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Capitalization - why so against it?

RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
I've noticed a few posters who absolutely never capitalize anything. Not proper nouns. Not the beginning word of a sentence. Nothing. Why? What advantage is there to being anti-capitalization?
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  • luvmylocsluvmylocs Posts: 7,578Registered Users
    i don't capitalize in casual writing situations because i don't see the point. why is this the rule? in work/professional writing i always use proper capitalization, grammar, punctuation, etc.
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  • cmb4314cmb4314 Posts: 984Registered Users
    I think it's usually just laziness. Apparently, moving your pinky finger an inch to the side to hit the shift key is just too darn time consuming for some people.

    It just comes across as immature to me, and I'm less likely to take the person seriously.

    Also - how does one even learn to type that way? I would have to make a distinct effort to NOT hit the shift key. I capitalize my sentences without even thinking about it. Do they not teach people typing in school anymore?
  • JosephineJosephine Posts: 14,175Registered Users
    Laziness. It doesn't bother me. I don't capitalize usually in texts or ims either.
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    cmb4314 wrote: »
    Also - how does one even learn to type that way? I would have to make a distinct effort to NOT hit the shift key. I capitalize my sentences without even thinking about it. Do they not teach people typing in school anymore?


    That's my thought as well...I'm so conditioned to shift/capitalize while typing, that I can't not do it without exerting a lot of extra effort. My typing teacher in high school would have rapped my knuckles for not capitalizing.

    I also want to be taken seriously and use proper english writing techniques, even in a casual setting.
  • CurlyminxCurlyminx Posts: 5,581Registered Users
    It depends. Sometimes I capitalize sometimes I don't.

    No rhyme or reason. Just because.

    But if I wanted to spend time thinking about it: I dont capitalize here because sometimes I don't care about it being perfect.

    While I am very used to capitalizing - seeing as I'm a secretary, since I have started text messaging (on a personal level) more than ever before, I don't spend time thinking about it because it takes time to capitalize. And who cares if I capitalize: what do you want for dinner? chicken?

    And I guess I figure: no one here gives me a paycheck; I don't care if it isn't correct.
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  • DarkAngelDarkAngel Posts: 2,671Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Laziness. I type one handed a lot of the time (holding Thing 1 or Thing 1) so it is easier to not capitalize. If I have both hands, I do.
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  • journotravelerjournotraveler Posts: 2,816Registered Users
    I didn't do it online here and in emails for a long time because I write for a living and I'm lazy when I don't have to put on a professional face to my writing.

    But I've come to see how hard it can be to read my own posts without caps, so I am trying to break myself of my habit.
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Outta the habit from too much texting.

  • automaticflowersautomaticflowers Posts: 3,465Registered Users
    I don't care if people don't capitalize in casual situations. Random capitalization is my personal annoyance.

    And I could die happy without ever seeing these again:

    u
    plz
    ur
    bff

    I'm sure there are more but my eye is already starting to twitch.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    It depends on which keyboard I'm using. One computer has a shift key that gets stuck and I look like I'm yelling if I continue typing so it's easier to just not try to use caps.
  • CurlyminxCurlyminx Posts: 5,581Registered Users
    I don't care if people don't capitalize in casual situations. Random capitalization is my personal annoyance.

    And I could die happy without ever seeing these again:

    u
    plz
    ur
    bff

    I'm sure there are more but my eye is already starting to twitch.

    Is that like: unBeLieVabLe? (I HATE/LOATH/WISH IT TO DIE when people do that)

    Or: i went to work today. He said I could go home sick if i wanted.
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  • OBBOBB Posts: 4,174Registered Users
    in an informal setting im guilty of it. but hey at least im consistent. :pl: i try to at least capitalize proper nouns though.
  • luvmylocsluvmylocs Posts: 7,578Registered Users
    this is sort of interesting to me....obviously i'm a "chronic non-capitalizer", lol....

    anyway, i don't feel like i'm lazy at all, it's not burned into my brain to capitalize but i can and do when i feel like it's appropriate/necessary/required (and sometimes when i just feel like it period, even here). i prefer to use my capital letters for emphasis rather than simply because they are at the start of a sentence or in a contraction, etc.

    there are so few forms of self expression...me typing without capitalization just feels like me ;-) i almost liken it to wearing your hair curly...the "rules" may say it is "correct" to straighten but who makes these rules anyway...i'm mostly joking but sort of not ;-)

    interestingly, i was thinking about this the other day. as a kid i was a lefty. my teacher made me write with my right hand. i still do many things left hand dominant. our brains are all wired differently. it's not a big deal to me, the capitalization. i care more about proper word use, spelling, etc but here on nc.com it's where i come to just be who i am amongst "friends" without judgment so i don't trip off something like capitalization....
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  • automaticflowersautomaticflowers Posts: 3,465Registered Users
    Curlyminx wrote: »
    I don't care if people don't capitalize in casual situations. Random capitalization is my personal annoyance.

    Is that like: unBeLieVabLe? (I HATE/LOATH/WISH IT TO DIE when people do that)

    Yes! That and the occasional word that's not a proper noun, but for some reason was capitalized anyway. I run into this all the time editing news stories:

    "The Commissioner said he disagreed with the Sheriff's opinion that Deputy Positions will need to be eliminated due to budget cuts."

    WTF!!!
  • Gemini13Gemini13 Posts: 5,000Registered Users
    I automatically capitalize where necessary... but really, it doesn't bother me when people don't. ANYWAY, IT'S BETTER THAN TYPING LIKE THIS.

    (I have coworkers who do that and it makes me want to scream!!! All I can hear is their loud mouth bellowing the message...)
    cmb4314 wrote: »
    Do they not teach people typing in school anymore?

    I never took typing in school. It was offered but wasn't a requirement.
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  • OBBOBB Posts: 4,174Registered Users
    i agree with Luvmylocs. i feel this board is where i can be loose and "let my hair down" so to speak. :afro:
  • cmb4314cmb4314 Posts: 984Registered Users
    Gemini13 wrote: »
    I never took typing in school. It was offered but wasn't a requirement.

    Huh. We had typing in elementary school, mandatory. I remember sitting at the computer with a big red piece of cardboard covering my hands so I could learn to type without looking. It was pretty hard and stressful for a 9 year old. I can remember having to go up to the teacher's computer and take little tests where we had to type certain sequences of letters correctly, without looking, and using the correct fingers.

    In high school, we had to either take typing or test out of it by typing at a certain speed/accuracy.

    This was not that long ago either, I graduated high school in 2001.

    I guess kids today start typing at a much earlier age than I did, so they reach a level of proficiency faster. I can see how some schools might phase it out. I wonder, if they do phase it out, how many people type "correctly" anymore. As in, I wonder how many people use the specific fingering and such that they used to teach.

    Another remnant of lack of typing class that is a bit smaller - I always thought it was standard to put in two spaces after a period. I do it automatically because it was beaten into my head as a kid. I've noticed recently, when combining my writing with someone else's, that this is not as automatic to most people as it is to me. I've been told it's a remnant from using a typewriter (though I'm not certain what the purpose was then) and it's unnecessary now, but it just looks wrong to me if I only use one space. Also, like capitalization, I would have to make a distinct effort not to hit the space bar twice.
  • TechKnockoutTechKnockout Posts: 415Registered Users
    Ja, pretty much. By middle school, everyone has already had at least 2 computer classes. Be it typing, or basic software classes using Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Flash, etc.

    I started typing in 2nd grade. Graduated hs in 2007.
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  • CurliLocksCurliLocks Posts: 10,572Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    I don't usually mind if people don't always capitalize, although it can make it harder to read. I have rarely not capitalized, out of laziness. My natural habit is to capitalize.

    That being said, I am not a real stickler for grammar (that is usually a pet peeve of mine). But here, not so much. Like OBB and others have said, this is where I come to relax and have fun with friends, so I don't worry about being grammatically correct at all times. :D But I normally am IRL. :p

    What bugs me is the run-on sentences where u abbreviate 2 much and go on and on without periods or commas b4 ever stopping and use 2 much txt speak........ :sign6:
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  • curlyarcacurlyarca Posts: 8,449Registered Users
    cmb4314 wrote: »
    Gemini13 wrote: »
    I never took typing in school. It was offered but wasn't a requirement.

    Huh. We had typing in elementary school, mandatory. I remember sitting at the computer with a big red piece of cardboard covering my hands so I could learn to type without looking. It was pretty hard and stressful for a 9 year old. I can remember having to go up to the teacher's computer and take little tests where we had to type certain sequences of letters correctly, without looking, and using the correct fingers.

    In high school, we had to either take typing or test out of it by typing at a certain speed/accuracy.

    This was not that long ago either, I graduated high school in 2001.

    I guess kids today start typing at a much earlier age than I did, so they reach a level of proficiency faster. I can see how some schools might phase it out. I wonder, if they do phase it out, how many people type "correctly" anymore. As in, I wonder how many people use the specific fingering and such that they used to teach.

    Another remnant of lack of typing class that is a bit smaller - I always thought it was standard to put in two spaces after a period. I do it automatically because it was beaten into my head as a kid. I've noticed recently, when combining my writing with someone else's, that this is not as automatic to most people as it is to me. I've been told it's a remnant from using a typewriter (though I'm not certain what the purpose was then) and it's unnecessary now, but it just looks wrong to me if I only use one space. Also, like capitalization, I would have to make a distinct effort not to hit the space bar twice.
    If you graduated in 2001, you are about the same age as I am, and I did not have to taking typing as a requirement in school. Definitely not in elementary. That was back in the MS DOS days and the Macs with green monitors. It probably depends on where you went to school. I went to school in the Deep South, public school.

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  • curlyarcacurlyarca Posts: 8,449Registered Users
    I took a class called Microcomputer Keyboarding when I was a sophomore in college. That is when and where I learned to type properly. I am 27 years old. Technology has advanced since I was in grade school 87-94ish; kids are learning to type at younger ages and even speak languages other than English....even in mediocre public schools.

    It doesn't bother me when people don't capitalize on this message board. I don't like all caps, I know that much.

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  • Gemini13Gemini13 Posts: 5,000Registered Users
    cmb4314 wrote: »
    Another remnant of lack of typing class that is a bit smaller - I always thought it was standard to put in two spaces after a period. I do it automatically because it was beaten into my head as a kid. I've noticed recently, when combining my writing with someone else's, that this is not as automatic to most people as it is to me. I've been told it's a remnant from using a typewriter (though I'm not certain what the purpose was then) and it's unnecessary now, but it just looks wrong to me if I only use one space. Also, like capitalization, I would have to make a distinct effort not to hit the space bar twice.

    That was one of the few things I was taught about typing in school. We had the occasional "Computer Class," but...
    Ja, pretty much. By middle school, everyone has already had at least 2 computer classes. Be it typing, or basic software classes using Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Flash, etc.

    I started typing in 2nd grade. Graduated hs in 2007.

    I don't know if Windows even existed when I was in middle school... we learned DOS!

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  • CurliLocksCurliLocks Posts: 10,572Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    They don't teach it in school here. I took it in school (way back when), and although my son has had several computer classes, they have not taught him proper key techniques. :( I wish they would. I don't want him to go thru (that's one word I'll abbreviate!) life using the hunt-and-peck like his father does. :lol:
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  • wavycurly40+wavycurly40+ Posts: 2,017Registered Users
    I wonder if a lot of it might depend on what habits you developed when you first started using computers. For some of us, back in the day, typing was only used when you were typing a formal document on a typewriter. We developed certain habits that, for many of us, carried over to computers and then into our emails and posts, even though they're not necessary.

    A lot of it has to do with whether you text or not, too, as others have said -- and also if you use your phone as a keyboard. Some of us dinosaurs have never done either.

    For me, I find the no caps posts really hard to read. Sometimes I skip them because it hurts my brain to try and read them. But I don't blame the people who do it. I totally get that, for them, this is the normal way. There really is no reason why we need capital letters in these posts.

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  • JosephineJosephine Posts: 14,175Registered Users
    curlyarca wrote: »
    cmb4314 wrote: »
    Gemini13 wrote: »
    I never took typing in school. It was offered but wasn't a requirement.

    Huh. We had typing in elementary school, mandatory. I remember sitting at the computer with a big red piece of cardboard covering my hands so I could learn to type without looking. It was pretty hard and stressful for a 9 year old. I can remember having to go up to the teacher's computer and take little tests where we had to type certain sequences of letters correctly, without looking, and using the correct fingers.

    In high school, we had to either take typing or test out of it by typing at a certain speed/accuracy.

    This was not that long ago either, I graduated high school in 2001.

    I guess kids today start typing at a much earlier age than I did, so they reach a level of proficiency faster. I can see how some schools might phase it out. I wonder, if they do phase it out, how many people type "correctly" anymore. As in, I wonder how many people use the specific fingering and such that they used to teach.

    Another remnant of lack of typing class that is a bit smaller - I always thought it was standard to put in two spaces after a period. I do it automatically because it was beaten into my head as a kid. I've noticed recently, when combining my writing with someone else's, that this is not as automatic to most people as it is to me. I've been told it's a remnant from using a typewriter (though I'm not certain what the purpose was then) and it's unnecessary now, but it just looks wrong to me if I only use one space. Also, like capitalization, I would have to make a distinct effort not to hit the space bar twice.
    If you graduated in 2001, you are about the same age as I am, and I did not have to taking typing as a requirement in school. Definitely not in elementary. That was back in the MS DOS days and the Macs with green monitors. It probably depends on where you went to school. I went to school in the Deep South, public school.

    I also went to public school in the deep south. Graduated in 97 and definitely not a requirement. I took a typing class though as one of my electives.
  • curlysue21curlysue21 Posts: 5,219Registered Users
    CurliLocks wrote: »
    the hunt-and-peck like his father does. :lol:


    :laughing6: My DH does this.

    I took a typing class in HS but it didn't help. To be honest I had a computer game that taught me A,S,D,F... etc. when I was younger and chatting online got me to type better/faster.


    As far a using proper caps, I use it when needed, but if I'm chatting with a friend, I don't use it all the time. Texting has definately helped contribute to lack of capitalization, but my phone has automatic capitalization feature so normally I don't have to bother.
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  • wavycurly40+wavycurly40+ Posts: 2,017Registered Users
    Hee! We oldies also took hardcore typing classes. Touch-typing, not looking at your hands, a-s-d-f--j-k-l-;, return! (ding!) 25 students in a room. On manual typewriters.

    Ah, good times......

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  • Gemini13Gemini13 Posts: 5,000Registered Users
    Oh, and I attended public school too- but a very good one in the northeast. When I was a bit older I taught myself how to type using computer software (Mavis Beacon!).
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  • curlyarcacurlyarca Posts: 8,449Registered Users
    Do Macs still have a return button instead of enter?

    I learned asdfjkl;, too. It really makes texting easier (to me). My phone has a full keyboard though.

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  • NetGNetG Posts: 8,116Registered Users
    I dislike reading posts which don't have capitalization and punctuation. It depends on my tiredness and crankiness level that day.

    My phone automatically capitalizes, and two spaces puts in a period for me, so now I actually have to try to capitalize. Given I want to have proper punctuation in my more formal typing, I want to keep the habit here, and texting has made it so I have to think harder.


    Now, if I only I could get over my tendency to write run-on sentences and overuse commas...
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