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Spongy textured 4a's, Let's talk

NappNapp Posts: 180Registered Users
I cant seem to find anyone who has my hair texture. i have a spongy hair texture. i usally see either silky textured people or cottony textured people. while i appreciate others comments i would like to see what they have to say about this kind of hair.

here is the description of spongy hair
Spongy - Hair has a high sheen with low shine with a compacted looking frizz. Absorbs water before it gets thoroughly wet.

does anyone think that the slow absorbtion of water inhibits curl defition because i noticed my curls just do not get defined unless i have left conditioner on it for a while. when i leave my hair with no products and no manipulation the end result is very undefined and resembles 4b hair.

i only get definition with a gel . i have to shellac it on before my hair starts to react to it and it then gets super defined(and super hard) LOL. its so annoying! im still searching for something that defines my curls with out the crunch. sometimes i feel like giving up.
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  • NappNapp Posts: 180Registered Users
    bump no one else has this texture?
  • cayisha_azulcayisha_azul Posts: 234Registered Users
    That's what I have. The more moisture the more definition. The more manipulation the more frizz I have. That is why somtimes kinky curly works great and at other times its a disaster.
    Current Regimen: I am doing protective styles for the winter. Two Strand Twists and Twist Outs. Wet hair in the middle of winter is not cute.
    Favorite Products: Komaza Care Coconut Line, Kinky Curly Line, and Africare 100% Glycerin
    Never Again: Carol's Daughter, Miss Jessie's, Garnier Fructis, Hot Oil Treatments
    Hair Type: Texture-Spongy, Strand Size-Medium, Curl Pattern-I in the front, O in the middle, and S in the back. 4a
  • kurltasticTkurltasticT Posts: 11Registered Users
    I totally know what you are talking about. I have that texture on the lower left quadrant of my hair and it is rather frustrating at times, especially right now since the seasons changed. I found that I have to have a super rock solid moisture regimen to get definition in that section. There was a period of time a few months ago when that section was defined and during that time I was using HEHH for my rinse out condish, [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Weekly-Deep-Conditioning-Treatment-p-106.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-weekly-deep-conditioner-treatment]Jessicurl WDT[/buylink] for my deep, I would use a leave - in (still trying to have the perfect one) but at the time it was Taliah Waajid Conditioner (its a rinse out but I leave it in) and I would twist (for the purpose of airdrying) with JC Nourish and Shine. I would refresh with [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Oyin-Handmade-Greg-Juice-p-190.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=oyin-greg-juice-nourishing-herbal-leavein]Oyin Greg Juice[/buylink]. My hair was very moisturized during that time I was so amazed and in love with the curl definition. Needless to say I strayed away from that due to trying other things and trying to use up some products and now my hair has gone insane and its frizzed out and ultra ultra dry...but anyway. Yes I can relate. I've found that moisture is the key. and while your trying to de-spongify I highly rec that you stay away from heat styling bc it only exacerbates the problem. this is just my trial and error experiences. I hope that helps.
  • QuirkyCurlQuirkyCurl Posts: 31Registered Users
    OMG I know just what you mean, this is EXACTLY my hair type, except for some really smooth hair in the back, I just can't seem to figure out what to do with it,some days I think I'm caring for it properly other days I'm sure I've done something wrong.
    Currently Testing: CG Method
    Former WDW Cast Member:sunny:
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  • hippychichippychic Posts: 4,673Registered Users
    LOIS (OS); cottony, TYPE 4 hair, fine/med strands; no cones bcz my hair hates them; last relaxer '98; now low porosity:?, ignores most natural hair rules; BC #8

    faves: suave, v05 shampoo, conditioner (my own), raw shea butter, castor oil, peanut oil, aloe juice
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    Yep, this is me too. Spongy. However I can get definition without any products. Lots of frizz but still lots of curl too.

    If I rake my gel in section by section until I feel it begin to absorb in my hair that's when I get great definition and no frizz.

    Put a little Long Aid Curl Activator under your gel. That should cut the crunch but still give you definition.

    For a while, the Curls cream gave me awesome hair. But once I tried gel I couldn't beat the shine.
    montage-3.gif No MAS.

    I am the new Black.

    "Hope the Mail are saving space tomorrow for Samantha Brick's reaction piece on the reactions to her piece about the reactions to her piece." ~ Tweet reposted by Rou.
  • hippychichippychic Posts: 4,673Registered Users
    Phoenix wrote: »
    Yep, this is me too. Spongy. However I can get definition without any products. Lots of frizz but still lots of curl too.

    If I rake my gel in section by section until I feel it begin to absorb in my hair that's when I get great definition and no frizz.

    Put a little Long Aid Curl Activator under your gel. That should cut the crunch but still give you definition.

    For a while, the Curls cream gave my awesome hair. But once I tried gel I couldn't beat the shine.
    which curls cream did you try?
    LOIS (OS); cottony, TYPE 4 hair, fine/med strands; no cones bcz my hair hates them; last relaxer '98; now low porosity:?, ignores most natural hair rules; BC #8

    faves: suave, v05 shampoo, conditioner (my own), raw shea butter, castor oil, peanut oil, aloe juice
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • caracara01caracara01 Posts: 119Registered Users
    I have spongy texture that tends to coil rather than curl... I get that frizzy thing going on when there is too much manipulation or use of the wrong product.

    Without a leave-in or styling product, my hair will will stand straight up at the top and the sides will cave in. Not a good look. :confused2:

    I get great curl definition with half [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] and half Biotera Gel.
    Coily/low porosity/fine
    BC 08*14*09
  • h2wQueenh2wQueen Posts: 551Registered Users
    That's what I have. The more moisture the more definition. The more manipulation the more frizz I have. That is why somtimes kinky curly works great and at other times its a disaster.

    Really agree here.
    "We Live From the Head Down and Not the Feet Up" ~Donnie
  • rosscdrosscd Posts: 464Registered Users
    I have spongy hair too. I have really tight coils that will frizz if I don't use leave in/cream styler/then [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]kccc[/buylink]. Any other combo makes my hair a frizzy spongy mess.
    4a Curly :icon_smile:

    Been natural since Jan 09. BCing is my thing!! Love to keep a tight TWA!

    My Staples:
    CJ Smoothing Conitioner, CJ Daily Fix,Cherry Lola Treatment, CJ CCCC, CJ Smoothing Lotion, Uncle Funky's Daughter Curly Majic, KCCC, Eco Blue and KMF UMG
  • Lotsa_TanglesLotsa_Tangles Posts: 128Registered Users
    That's me as well. Especially the water part. I can stand under my shower for minutes :clock:before my hair is thoroughly saturated. Also, I need think products to moisturize my hair...

    LT
    The blog of a non-blogger: www.naturallytia.com
  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    hippychic wrote: »
    Phoenix wrote: »
    Yep, this is me too. Spongy. However I can get definition without any products. Lots of frizz but still lots of curl too.

    If I rake my gel in section by section until I feel it begin to absorb in my hair that's when I get great definition and no frizz.

    Put a little Long Aid Curl Activator under your gel. That should cut the crunch but still give you definition.

    For a while, the Curls cream gave my awesome hair. But once I tried gel I couldn't beat the shine.
    which curls cream did you try?

    [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/CURLS-Whipped-Cream-p-883.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=Curls-Whipped-Cream]Curls Whipped Cream[/buylink]
    montage-3.gif No MAS.

    I am the new Black.

    "Hope the Mail are saving space tomorrow for Samantha Brick's reaction piece on the reactions to her piece about the reactions to her piece." ~ Tweet reposted by Rou.
  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    caracara01 wrote: »
    I have spongy texture that tends to coil rather than curl... I get that frizzy thing going on when there is too much manipulation or use of the wrong product.

    Without a leave-in or styling product, my hair will will stand straight up at the top and the sides will cave in. Not a good look. :confused2:

    I get great curl definition with half [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] and half Biotera Gel.

    How are coils different than curls?
    montage-3.gif No MAS.

    I am the new Black.

    "Hope the Mail are saving space tomorrow for Samantha Brick's reaction piece on the reactions to her piece about the reactions to her piece." ~ Tweet reposted by Rou.
  • caracara01caracara01 Posts: 119Registered Users
    In general I guess its all curly hair. I was just describing the look of the curl.
    Phoenix wrote: »
    caracara01 wrote: »
    I have spongy texture that tends to coil rather than curl... I get that frizzy thing going on when there is too much manipulation or use of the wrong product.

    Without a leave-in or styling product, my hair will will stand straight up at the top and the sides will cave in. Not a good look. :confused2:

    I get great curl definition with half [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] and half Biotera Gel.

    How are coils different than curls?
    Coily/low porosity/fine
    BC 08*14*09
  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    Oh I'm not arguing or correcting. I was just wondering what you meant by coil and what it looks like.
    montage-3.gif No MAS.

    I am the new Black.

    "Hope the Mail are saving space tomorrow for Samantha Brick's reaction piece on the reactions to her piece about the reactions to her piece." ~ Tweet reposted by Rou.
  • hippychichippychic Posts: 4,673Registered Users
    Phoenix wrote: »
    hippychic wrote: »
    Phoenix wrote: »
    Yep, this is me too. Spongy. However I can get definition without any products. Lots of frizz but still lots of curl too.

    If I rake my gel in section by section until I feel it begin to absorb in my hair that's when I get great definition and no frizz.

    Put a little Long Aid Curl Activator under your gel. That should cut the crunch but still give you definition.

    For a while, the Curls cream gave my awesome hair. But once I tried gel I couldn't beat the shine.
    which curls cream did you try?

    [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/CURLS-Whipped-Cream-p-883.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=Curls-Whipped-Cream]Curls Whipped Cream[/buylink]
    thanks, i have this product on my radar for one day :cyclopsani:
    LOIS (OS); cottony, TYPE 4 hair, fine/med strands; no cones bcz my hair hates them; last relaxer '98; now low porosity:?, ignores most natural hair rules; BC #8

    faves: suave, v05 shampoo, conditioner (my own), raw shea butter, castor oil, peanut oil, aloe juice
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • rosscdrosscd Posts: 464Registered Users
    4a Curly :icon_smile:

    Been natural since Jan 09. BCing is my thing!! Love to keep a tight TWA!

    My Staples:
    CJ Smoothing Conitioner, CJ Daily Fix,Cherry Lola Treatment, CJ CCCC, CJ Smoothing Lotion, Uncle Funky's Daughter Curly Majic, KCCC, Eco Blue and KMF UMG
  • caracara01caracara01 Posts: 119Registered Users
    lol. Not crunchy hair--just a moderate hold with both gels. IMO, the Biotera Gel is really more like a serum or liquidy glaze. I think it really helps with my frizz issues.

    Sometimes I use a very small amount of curl cream as a leave in.

    rosscd wrote: »
    Coily/low porosity/fine
    BC 08*14*09
  • FallOutCurlFallOutCurl Posts: 339Registered Users
    That's what I have. The more moisture the more definition. The more manipulation the more frizz I have. That is why somtimes kinky curly works great and at other times its a disaster.
    This is so me. I've also learned that my hair prefers lotions to creams I think it absorbs better.
  • NappNapp Posts: 180Registered Users
    does anyones hair feel dry after using a high pressure stream of water from the shower but with a low pressure stream the hair feels wet?


    and also are any of you having difficulty styling outside of twists sans gel. im in a styling rut. i dont want to wear twists again for atleast 6 months.
  • EkaetteEkaette Posts: 356Registered Users
    I think this is what I'm growing out. If you look closely it's little coils like this but like you guys mentioned I can stand under the shower and I have to squeeze it like you squeeze a sponge when you're trying to get it soaked or else it takes forever for the inside to get wet
    I don't know if it's bc of the type of hair or bc of how small the curls are so they're more densely packed
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    4b natural
  • cayisha_azulcayisha_azul Posts: 234Registered Users
    Napp wrote: »
    does anyones hair feel dry after using a high pressure stream of water from the shower but with a low pressure stream the hair feels wet?

    and also are any of you having difficulty styling outside of twists sans gel. im in a styling rut. i dont want to wear twists again for atleast 6 months.
    Yes, I have found my people. lol. Not only does it feel dry but it gets frizzy. If I use a warm, low to medium pressure stream my hair gets wet when I squeeze it and it reduces the frizz.

    On the second point I have only been twisting for the last two months and I'm already sick of it. I love not having to do it for two weeks at a time but I'm tired of looking the same way. I was thinking about trying some of these styles. What do you think? /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Duj9sQH8K96s" class="Popup
    Current Regimen: I am doing protective styles for the winter. Two Strand Twists and Twist Outs. Wet hair in the middle of winter is not cute.
    Favorite Products: Komaza Care Coconut Line, Kinky Curly Line, and Africare 100% Glycerin
    Never Again: Carol's Daughter, Miss Jessie's, Garnier Fructis, Hot Oil Treatments
    Hair Type: Texture-Spongy, Strand Size-Medium, Curl Pattern-I in the front, O in the middle, and S in the back. 4a
  • caracara01caracara01 Posts: 119Registered Users
    By gosh, yes! :D I stopped using the shower to wash or rinse my hair because it caused frizz due to the high pressure stream of water. Now, I use my spritz bottle or water from the sink. You would think that hair with a spongy texture would soak up water, but mine does not. I was thinking I had low porosity, but it could just be the spongy effect.




    Napp wrote: »
    does anyones hair feel dry after using a high pressure stream of water from the shower but with a low pressure stream the hair feels wet?


    and also are any of you having difficulty styling outside of twists sans gel. im in a styling rut. i dont want to wear twists again for atleast 6 months.
    Coily/low porosity/fine
    BC 08*14*09
  • NappNapp Posts: 180Registered Users
    Napp wrote: »
    does anyones hair feel dry after using a high pressure stream of water from the shower but with a low pressure stream the hair feels wet?

    and also are any of you having difficulty styling outside of twists sans gel. im in a styling rut. i dont want to wear twists again for atleast 6 months.
    Yes, I have found my people. lol. Not only does it feel dry but it gets frizzy. If I use a warm, low to medium pressure stream my hair gets wet when I squeeze it and it reduces the frizz.

    On the second point I have only been twisting for the last two months and I'm already sick of it. I love not having to do it for two weeks at a time but I'm tired of looking the same way. I was thinking about trying some of these styles. What do you think? /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Duj9sQH8K96s" class="Popup
    OMG YES. i'm so glad im not the only one:toothy8:

    ive been wearing twists since march. im sick of them and they still dont look cute on me.(the length) im thinking why am i wearing a style that looks bad on me? there are other protective styles!Shoot i think i might buy a new flat iron and wear it straight soon!:happy7: im looking into doing sets like roller sets, braid outs and twist outs for a while.

    and i like that video. her vids are great. i may try some of those styles!
  • NappNapp Posts: 180Registered Users
    caracara01 wrote: »
    By gosh, yes! :D I stopped using the shower to wash or rinse my hair because it caused frizz due to the high pressure stream of water. Now, I use my spritz bottle or water from the sink. You would think that hair with a spongy texture would soak up water, but mine does not. I was thinking I had low porosity, but it could just be the spongy effect.




    Napp wrote: »
    does anyones hair feel dry after using a high pressure stream of water from the shower but with a low pressure stream the hair feels wet?


    and also are any of you having difficulty styling outside of twists sans gel. im in a styling rut. i dont want to wear twists again for atleast 6 months.


    yes before i stated lowering the shower pressure the only way my hair would get wet was with a spray bottle. i think this is also why i prefer detangling out of the shower.

    also i thought i had low porosity too but my hair acts like normal porosity hair concerning chemical applications. (texturizer/color)
  • NappNapp Posts: 180Registered Users
    Ekaette wrote: »
    I think this is what I'm growing out. If you look closely it's little coils like this but like you guys mentioned I can stand under the shower and I have to squeeze it like you squeeze a sponge when you're trying to get it soaked or else it takes forever for the inside to get wet
    I don't know if it's bc of the type of hair or bc of how small the curls are so they're more densely packed
    yes this is me when i apply product
  • cayisha_azulcayisha_azul Posts: 234Registered Users
    Napp wrote: »
    OMG YES. i'm so glad im not the only one:toothy8:

    ive been wearing twists since march. im sick of them and they still dont look cute on me.(the length) im thinking why am i wearing a style that looks bad on me? there are other protective styles!Shoot i think i might buy a new flat iron and wear it straight soon!:happy7: im looking into doing sets like roller sets, braid outs and twist outs for a while.

    and i like that video. her vids are great. i may try some of those styles!
    I tried the puff and it was a little bit of a disaster. No matter how much gel I put on my hair it doesn't slick back. I would have to use gel and tie it down at night for it to be flat. Does your hair slick back? (BTW Before you get a new flat iron, you may want to invest in curlformers. You can get it straight without the heat.)
    Current Regimen: I am doing protective styles for the winter. Two Strand Twists and Twist Outs. Wet hair in the middle of winter is not cute.
    Favorite Products: Komaza Care Coconut Line, Kinky Curly Line, and Africare 100% Glycerin
    Never Again: Carol's Daughter, Miss Jessie's, Garnier Fructis, Hot Oil Treatments
    Hair Type: Texture-Spongy, Strand Size-Medium, Curl Pattern-I in the front, O in the middle, and S in the back. 4a
  • NappNapp Posts: 180Registered Users
    Napp wrote: »
    OMG YES. i'm so glad im not the only one:toothy8:

    ive been wearing twists since march. im sick of them and they still dont look cute on me.(the length) im thinking why am i wearing a style that looks bad on me? there are other protective styles!Shoot i think i might buy a new flat iron and wear it straight soon!:happy7: im looking into doing sets like roller sets, braid outs and twist outs for a while.

    and i like that video. her vids are great. i may try some of those styles!
    I tried the puff and it was a little bit of a disaster. No matter how much gel I put on my hair it doesn't slick back. I would have to use gel and tie it down at night for it to be flat. Does your hair slick back? (BTW Before you get a new flat iron, you may want to invest in curlformers. You can get it straight without the heat.)

    No i CANNOT slick my hair back. this is also why i have difficulty doing a "simple" puff. to pull my hair back i kinda "lay" my hair together. when i dont use my laying technique my hair gets "flat" which is a flat,dull, crinkled look which i do not like. to lay my hair required alot of gel though which is why buns and puff are not staple styles of mine.

    also curlformers are 'spensive!:laughing9: i rather get flexi rods and a new flat iron.
  • cayisha_azulcayisha_azul Posts: 234Registered Users
    Napp wrote: »
    Napp wrote: »
    OMG YES. i'm so glad im not the only one:toothy8:

    ive been wearing twists since march. im sick of them and they still dont look cute on me.(the length) im thinking why am i wearing a style that looks bad on me? there are other protective styles!Shoot i think i might buy a new flat iron and wear it straight soon!:happy7: im looking into doing sets like roller sets, braid outs and twist outs for a while.

    and i like that video. her vids are great. i may try some of those styles!
    I tried the puff and it was a little bit of a disaster. No matter how much gel I put on my hair it doesn't slick back. I would have to use gel and tie it down at night for it to be flat. Does your hair slick back? (BTW Before you get a new flat iron, you may want to invest in curlformers. You can get it straight without the heat.)

    No i CANNOT slick my hair back. this is also why i have difficulty doing a "simple" puff. to pull my hair back i kinda "lay" my hair together. when i dont use my laying technique my hair gets "flat" which is a flat,dull, crinkled look which i do not like. to lay my hair required alot of gel though which is why buns and puff are not staple styles of mine.

    also curlformers are 'spensive!:laughing9: i rather get flexi rods and a new flat iron.
    I feel you :toothy8:. $60 is a lot in a recession.

    I was really frustrated about not being able to wear my hair slicked back in a puff. I realized later that it had something to do with my texture. I would look at videos and wonder why I didn't have any waves. So I'm just going to have to find other cute styles.
    Current Regimen: I am doing protective styles for the winter. Two Strand Twists and Twist Outs. Wet hair in the middle of winter is not cute.
    Favorite Products: Komaza Care Coconut Line, Kinky Curly Line, and Africare 100% Glycerin
    Never Again: Carol's Daughter, Miss Jessie's, Garnier Fructis, Hot Oil Treatments
    Hair Type: Texture-Spongy, Strand Size-Medium, Curl Pattern-I in the front, O in the middle, and S in the back. 4a
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    I can't tell if her hair is spongy. It's definitely 4a, very fine, VERRRY thick.

    It seems like whatever I do, it looks dull and frizzy until I 1) take a photo in which the shine is revealed; 2) take her outside in the sun, during which the shine is revealed.

    Even when her pigtails are not visibly frizzy, the sections will be puffy whenever it's humid or rainy. Sometimes I slather her hair in whatever moisturizer I'm using before braiding a section, and it will STILL look rough, frizzy and non-shiny.

    And when you look at her hair in pigtails, you can see all these tiny hairs sticking up all along the length of the braid and the top of each section.

    When I wet her hair during washing, it doesn't even look wet.

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    Believe it or not, it is soaking wet here and the next photo:

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    Is she spongy? I can't tell. I did her hair in 6 regular braids (no ponytail holders @ the base, just barrettes @ the ends).............and I'm not happy with how there's all this frizz from top to bottom, even though I dampened each section before braiding, used shea butter mix and a dab of gel after braiding. Then again, it's been very humid and rainy today.

    And I HATE pulling her hair too tight just so there won't be puffiness.....it breaks if I'm not careful.
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