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Citric acid as preservative?

su3926su3926 Posts: 50Registered Users
I picked up some from the health food store to use as a preservative for FSG. How much should i wisk in at the end of making fsg (8 oz)? I have read too much can dry out your hair.

Thanks!
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  • OnduleeOndulee Posts: 1,264Registered Users
    I was told to use 1/4 tsp. for one cup of FSG. It didn't work for me, my gel was molded the next morning.
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  • curlyhairmichukcurlyhairmichuk Posts: 860Registered Users
    Is citric acid not for adjusting the ph value? I use grapefruit seed extract for preservative.
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  • RedboneRedbone Posts: 9Registered Users
    Yes, it is used to adjust pH.

    If you need a preservative, you need to use a product that is actually a preservative. There are no natural ones--not a single one. I make toiletries and I used to work in microbiology. Whoever makes a natural preservative is going to be one very, very rich person/corporation.

    GSE won't work--or maybe I should say, it does work but not in the way most people think. Manufacturers of GSE were putting preservatives--parabens or benzethonium chloride in their product. That's what had the antimicrobial activity; not the GSE itself.
    (Source: Identification of Benzethonium Chloride in Commercial Grapefruit
    Seed Extracts
    Gary Takeoka,* Lan Dao, Rosalind Y. Wong, Robert Lundin, and Noreen Mahoney
    Western Regional Research Center, Agricultural Research Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture,
    800 Buchanan Street, Albany, California 947103316 J. Agric. Food Chem. 2001, 49, 3316−3320)

    If you want to use a preservative in a product, you're going to have to do a little chemistry work or you can contact someone who sells preservatives, tell them what you made and ask for a suggestion on how to preserve it.

    HTH
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  • su3926su3926 Posts: 50Registered Users
    Thanks Redbone! Good to know!

    I used gse in the past and I found it had a drying affect on my hair.
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    My HG products: BSRG, HE Totally Twisted Mousse, Burts Bee's green tea condish, Burts Bee's Super Shiney grapefruit condish
  • belasunabelasuna Posts: 599Registered Users
    Redbone wrote: »
    Yes, it is used to adjust pH.

    If you need a preservative, you need to use a product that is actually a preservative. There are no natural ones--not a single one. I make toiletries and I used to work in microbiology. Whoever makes a natural preservative is going to be one very, very rich person/corporation.

    GSE won't work--or maybe I should say, it does work but not in the way most people think. Manufacturers of GSE were putting preservatives--parabens or benzethonium chloride in their product. That's what had the antimicrobial activity; not the GSE itself.
    (Source: Identification of Benzethonium Chloride in Commercial Grapefruit
    Seed Extracts
    Gary Takeoka,* Lan Dao, Rosalind Y. Wong, Robert Lundin, and Noreen Mahoney
    Western Regional Research Center, Agricultural Research Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture,
    800 Buchanan Street, Albany, California 947103316 J. Agric. Food Chem. 2001, 49, 3316−3320)

    If you want to use a preservative in a product, you're going to have to do a little chemistry work or you can contact someone who sells preservatives, tell them what you made and ask for a suggestion on how to preserve it.

    HTH

    Hi Redbone,

    I was under the impression that there are several natural antimicrobials and antifungal preservatives when used in combo can act as a broad specturm preservative for natural products. For instance, silver citrate + potassium sorbate + citric acid as ph adjuster. I am not a microbiologist so I would like to know. I had considered using this combo for my natural products. Could the combo be considered a natural preservative? TIA for your help.
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  • KeihsKeihs Posts: 435Registered Users
    Can you use food contain citric acid? Like lemon? Just wondering..
  • coilynappcoilynapp Posts: 4,233Registered Users
    Keihs wrote: »
    Can you use food contain citric acid? Like lemon? Just wondering..
    no you cannot. Citric acid is a "concentrated" form. Lemon juice has citric acid among other things including water, so you will have to use a lot of lemon juice to get the amount of citric acid needed, which will be drying

    citric acid is not a preservative.
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  • KeihsKeihs Posts: 435Registered Users
    Oh thanks, I'm new to this.

    I've been thinking of making homemade things like lip balm and scrubs, but I don't want to wake up one day and it stinky and covered with mold. Any cheap and easily found in stores ideas?