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bible, sex, and virginity (very adult)

carribeanheatcarribeanheat Posts: 27Registered Users
www.sexinchrist.com
this website has a page on anal sex, saying that woman should engage in anal sex to keep there virginity and that the bible allows this sexual act before marriage.
there was a discussion about this on a yahoo forum
and some people said the scripts were being read wrong and this is not correct and someone also said that they recomend this to young girls to perserve the virginity until marriage

i think its sexism/abuse against woman.i see it as a sexual act that pleases the man not the woman,and i thinks its sick anyone would recomend this to young girls. i dont see it as purity either.
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  • empressriempressri Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    HAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! greatest laugh of the day but some people really do believe that.

    this website is something that someone up made for...special reasons but IT'S NOT REAL.

    some people think masturbation is a sin which makes me go how? but whatever.
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  • wild~hairwild~hair Posts: 9,890Registered Users
    i think its sexism/abuse against woman.i see it as a sexual act that pleases the man not the woman,and i thinks its sick anyone would recomend this to young girls. i dont see it as purity either.

    Yeah, that's really lame.

    It's too bad that a religious upbringing often doesn't exactly reinforce and strengthen critical thinking abilities. That's what leads to this sort of nonsense.

    That said, there are women who like anal sex.
  • PoodleheadPoodlehead Posts: 6,959Registered Users
    empressri wrote: »
    HAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! greatest laugh of the day but some people really do believe that.

    this website is something that someone up made for...special reasons but IT'S NOT REAL.

    some people think masturbation is a sin which makes me go how? but whatever.
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  • nynaeve77nynaeve77 Posts: 7,135Registered Users
    That's the funniest website I've seen in a while. LOL
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  • Stephanie198907Stephanie198907 Posts: 2,607Registered Users
    that site is just all kinds of wrong.
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  • mrspoppersmrspoppers Posts: 7,223Registered Users
    Of course, there is little, if any adult entertainment currently on the market that reflects these values and would be a good choice for Christians. That leads us to call for a new kind of porn – porn that upholds the Christian ethos. Christ-centered porn, made to be viewed by Christians and tailored to their unique needs. We challenge Christians in the adult industry (yes, they do exist – and you know who you are) to step up and truly walk their walk and live their faith by producing pornography that men and women of God can view without compromising their relationship with their Savior, or their relationship with their spouse.
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  • empressriempressri Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    carribbeanheat, honestly that site is no different than any of the porn you can find on the internet. only this one doesn't have pictures.

    to reiterate there are lots of WOMEN who will only have anal sex, not vaginally because they want to stay "virgins" so that was nothing new for my ears.


    poodlehead hahahahaha!!!!! i had someone say to me they didn't want to masturbate because it was a sin and i just kept my thoughts to myself.

    wanted to say God put a clitoris with nerve endings there so you can have an orgasm FOR A REASON.
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  • TechKnockoutTechKnockout Posts: 415Registered Users
    I went to a Catholic high school. Yes. The idiot teenagers TRULY believed having anal sex was still "preserving virginity." I'm serious.

    "Well, we didn't actually have SEX!" was the common phrase. Or "It didn't count because it was anal."

    I got tired of arguing with my classmates. Anal sex still has SEX attached to the end of it! Oral sex still has SEX attached to the end of it! Therefore, using LOGIC, anal and oral is still SEX!!! No dice, sister, it "counts."

    Now I'm not religious by any means--if you wanna have sex, have sex! In fact, I LOVE having sex! And as a teenager I had a lot of it...but you shouldn't have to LIE about it out of fear of "impurity!"

    Sexuality is important to what makes us all human beings. There's nothing wrong with sex. A healthy sex life is a GOOD thing, not something to be ashamed of. :D I also told this to my classmates and they insisted that just "saying a few hail Mary's" would fix their problem instead.

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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    There was a study a couple years ago that showed that christian teenagers, particularly those who took a "chastity vow" or "virginity pledge", were something like 5 times more likely to engage in anal sex than non-christian-non-pledgers. And very few of them use condoms to do it either. Seems like christian churches are risking their children to death, in the pursuit of keeping them vaginal virgins.
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    empressri wrote: »
    some people think masturbation is a sin which makes me go how? but whatever.


    Biblically, it's only sinful for men to masturbate. The bible doesn't care one bit about female masturbation. Doesn't even mention it. So...enjoy. ;)
  • burgundy_locksburgundy_locks Posts: 2,420Registered Users
    personally, i was never told this, but i knew TONS of girls who believe this. in my head im like, where did you hear this from?! i was really curious to know the source of this information. penetration is pentration! but whatever. i dont try to knock anyones hustle.
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    oh good lord... just when I think I heard it all something else comes up and smacks me in the face, lol!
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    I went to a Catholic high school. Yes. The idiot teenagers TRULY believed having anal sex was still "preserving virginity." I'm serious.

    "Well, we didn't actually have SEX!" was the common phrase. Or "It didn't count because it was anal."

    I got tired of arguing with my classmates. Anal sex still has SEX attached to the end of it! Oral sex still has SEX attached to the end of it! Therefore, using LOGIC, anal and oral is still SEX!!! No dice, sister, it "counts."

    AMEN! I agree....

    I think anal sex opens the door to false beliefs - if a young girl believes anal sex isn't sex, she will be more willing to have it, oh and hey you can't get pregnant that way.... Oh man, so much on my brain with this topic I can't talk about it as my thoughts will come out all jumbled and make no sense...
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  • carribeanheatcarribeanheat Posts: 27Registered Users
    i think sometimes religion is an ignorance.
    and have you noticed when it comes to sex and religion they tend to be in more favor of the man
    example-
    before the church allowed only the missionary position (man on top of woman) as the only sexual position allowed,so woman on top of man wasn't allowd, that has changed now with time.

    the church originally says (even though its sometimes denied)that if a woman gets raped , the woman is seen more guilty than the man rapist since she provoked the inocent man and brought out the bad in him. usually churches take that out but originally the bible says that.

    and woman are always taught to save there virginity FOR A MAN but a man is never enforced to save his virginity to a woman but the bible says both men and woman to save the virginity until marriage but culturally woman are more suspected to do it than men

    the bible or any religous book q'ran ect was written by man not god
  • OBBOBB Posts: 4,174Registered Users
    mrspoppers wrote: »
    Of course, there is little, if any adult entertainment currently on the market that reflects these values and would be a good choice for Christians. That leads us to call for a new kind of porn – porn that upholds the Christian ethos. Christ-centered porn, made to be viewed by Christians and tailored to their unique needs. We challenge Christians in the adult industry (yes, they do exist – and you know who you are) to step up and truly walk their walk and live their faith by producing pornography that men and women of God can view without compromising their relationship with their Savior, or their relationship with their spouse.
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    i think sometimes religion is an ignorance.


    Sometimes? LOL Try...All.The.Time.

    The Big-Three religions (christianity, islam, judaism) have always been about female oppression. Women will never truly be equal to men in power and influence in this world unless/until they get out from under the yoke of religious oppression.
  • carribeanheatcarribeanheat Posts: 27Registered Users
    i've already heard of girls having anal sex to perserve there virginity but i never knew girl like that
    when i was in my early teens it was very common for girls to engage in oral sex but anal sex never was common.
  • nynaeve77nynaeve77 Posts: 7,135Registered Users
    personally, i was never told this, but i knew TONS of girls who believe this. in my head im like, where did you hear this from?! i was really curious to know the source of this information. penetration is pentration! but whatever. i dont try to knock anyones hustle.

    Exactly.
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  • LaFleurPrincesseLaFleurPrincesse Posts: 87Registered Users
    i think its sexism/abuse against woman.i see it as a sexual act that pleases the man not the woman,and i thinks its sick anyone would recomend this to young girls. i dont see it as purity either.

    ^^^ This all the way. Unless the girl *honestly* does like it. But wow. Sounds like men using the bible to oppress women and satisfy their desires. Screw men. ):<
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  • kat180kat180 Posts: 6,280Registered Users
    the church originally says (even though its sometimes denied)that if a woman gets raped , the woman is seen more guilty than the man rapist since she provoked the inocent man and brought out the bad in him. usually churches take that out but originally the bible says that.

    Where does it say that?

    Im not arguing against or anything just curious- Ive never heard anyone say this before.
  • empressriempressri Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    empressri wrote: »
    some people think masturbation is a sin which makes me go how? but whatever.


    Biblically, it's only sinful for men to masturbate. The bible doesn't care one bit about female masturbation. Doesn't even mention it. So...enjoy. ;)

    isn't that because they waste their seed so to speak? what about if you catch it and use it? they make bull semen hair conditioner why pay when you can borrow your man's for free??

    im just being silly!!!!! lol!!! continue
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  • carribeanheatcarribeanheat Posts: 27Registered Users
    sometimes i do feel that religion more specifically
    (christianity,islam,judiasim)hold back woman from being on top of men. i was raised roman catholic but i dont even like to call my self any religion just simply i believe in god heaven and hell .
    another thing i noticed why is that the highest position in the church,the pope can only be a man and not a woman that doesnt seem logical i mean god did create men and woman equal didn't he?
  • nynaeve77nynaeve77 Posts: 7,135Registered Users
    kat180 wrote: »
    the church originally says (even though its sometimes denied)that if a woman gets raped , the woman is seen more guilty than the man rapist since she provoked the inocent man and brought out the bad in him. usually churches take that out but originally the bible says that.

    Where does it say that?

    Im not arguing against or anything just curious- Ive never heard anyone say this before.

    I know that in Deuteronomy 22:28-29, it says that if a man rapes a virgin, he has to pay her father some silver and then marry her. And they can never divorce. Yikes.
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  • carribeanheatcarribeanheat Posts: 27Registered Users
    FOR KAT180
    i heard that on a program on the tv, it was about the roman catholic church in mexico that the original scripts of the roman catholic church does say that, but anyways it made an outrage in mexico with femenist groups and all woman, so the church always ommits it.
    also in the q'ran (islam) it says how the womans beauty is the pinpoint of the devils evil
    thats pretty much the reason of muslum woman and the head dress its used to not show there bodys to man, to save/protect them from abuse
    but honestly i think that makes the problem worse because then you have a society of man who believe that the womans body is only a sexual symbol and needs to be covered.
    we need to teach our sons that a womans bodys is notonly for sex and you need to respect woman no matter how they dress
  • Oriental CurlOriental Curl Posts: 201Registered Users
    nynaeve77 wrote: »
    kat180 wrote: »
    the church originally says (even though its sometimes denied)that if a woman gets raped , the woman is seen more guilty than the man rapist since she provoked the inocent man and brought out the bad in him. usually churches take that out but originally the bible says that.

    Where does it say that?

    Im not arguing against or anything just curious- Ive never heard anyone say this before.

    I know that in Deuteronomy 22:28-29, it says that if a man rapes a virgin, he has to pay her father some silver and then marry her. And they can never divorce. Yikes.

    It's just before that: in Deuteronomy 22:23-27. If she's raped in a field she may live, but if raped in a city she must die.
    If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
    But if the man meets the engaged woman out in the country, and he rapes her, then only the man should die.
    Do nothing to the young woman; she has committed no crime worthy of death. This case is similar to that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor.
    Since the man raped her out in the country, it must be assumed that she screamed, but there was no one to rescue her.
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  • hippychichippychic Posts: 4,673Registered Users
    empressri wrote: »
    empressri wrote: »
    some people think masturbation is a sin which makes me go how? but whatever.


    Biblically, it's only sinful for men to masturbate. The bible doesn't care one bit about female masturbation. Doesn't even mention it. So...enjoy. ;)

    isn't that because they waste their seed so to speak? what about if you catch it and use it? they make bull semen hair conditioner why pay when you can borrow your man's for free??

    im just being silly!!!!! lol!!! continue
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  • mrspoppersmrspoppers Posts: 7,223Registered Users
    OBB wrote: »
    mrspoppers wrote: »
    Of course, there is little, if any adult entertainment currently on the market that reflects these values and would be a good choice for Christians. That leads us to call for a new kind of porn – porn that upholds the Christian ethos. Christ-centered porn, made to be viewed by Christians and tailored to their unique needs. We challenge Christians in the adult industry (yes, they do exist – and you know who you are) to step up and truly walk their walk and live their faith by producing pornography that men and women of God can view without compromising their relationship with their Savior, or their relationship with their spouse.
    :thumbleft: :laughing6:

    i would name the company "Porn Again Christians" Production.
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    nynaeve77 wrote: »
    kat180 wrote: »

    Where does it say that?

    Im not arguing against or anything just curious- Ive never heard anyone say this before.

    I know that in Deuteronomy 22:28-29, it says that if a man rapes a virgin, he has to pay her father some silver and then marry her. And they can never divorce. Yikes.

    It's just before that: in Deuteronomy 22:23-27. If she's raped in a field she may live, but if raped in a city she must die.
    If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
    But if the man meets the engaged woman out in the country, and he rapes her, then only the man should die.
    Do nothing to the young woman; she has committed no crime worthy of death. This case is similar to that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor.
    Since the man raped her out in the country, it must be assumed that she screamed, but there was no one to rescue her.

    I think the implication is that if a man has sex w/ another man's wife/fiancee and she doesn't object, they are both guilty of adultery/fornication. But if she does object (i.e., it's rape) then he is the guilty party.

  • nynaeve77nynaeve77 Posts: 7,135Registered Users
    nynaeve77 wrote: »

    I know that in Deuteronomy 22:28-29, it says that if a man rapes a virgin, he has to pay her father some silver and then marry her. And they can never divorce. Yikes.

    It's just before that: in Deuteronomy 22:23-27. If she's raped in a field she may live, but if raped in a city she must die.
    If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
    But if the man meets the engaged woman out in the country, and he rapes her, then only the man should die.
    Do nothing to the young woman; she has committed no crime worthy of death. This case is similar to that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor.
    Since the man raped her out in the country, it must be assumed that she screamed, but there was no one to rescue her.

    I think the implication is that if a man has sex w/ another man's wife/fiancee and she doesn't object, they are both guilty of adultery/fornication. But if she does object (i.e., it's rape) then he is the guilty party.

    Yeah, but imagine having to be married to your rapist for life. Horrifying! The OT has some scary stuff in it.
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  • sew and sewsew and sew Posts: 3,443Registered Users
    The Old Testament does have harsh law in it, but it's not meant to apply today. As someone reading the bible, you're not meant to live in light of those laws and that's pretty clear. They're reported, not being dictated. The Jewish people were being used, literally purposely preserved, and the harshness of how things were settled reflects the dynamics existing at the time.

    Prurient interest, lasciviousness and 'yielding of your members to unrighteousness' is spoken against without respect to gender in the bible.

    I think there's ignorance when people have only legalistic and not heart based understandings. It may very well be that the person is being pressured by some supposedly righteous authority, or s/he's walking by tradition alone when it comes down to it. But if your connection to the word of God lies in your heart, and not another's take on it, what sounds good to you, what doesn't sound good to you, the whole idea it matters what sort of sex you're having is null.

    I can not have sex at all and constantly have my heart on it. Christ searches the heart according to scriptures. Why is sex bad? Sex isn't bad. But if you believe there's a context that God intended for it, and that you belong to him, desire to live according to his plan, you're going to be compelled to follow that intention. It's as simple as that. That's conviction, not a state of mind you can self will. So if you're trying to walk by your own will, it'll be extremely difficult.

    While it might be simple, a person can still struggle. Being forgiven of your sins and reconciled to Christ doesn't make you sinless, doesn't put you above temptation. If someone is in a "technical virgin" situation and you believe you're not simply caring about how you're approaching sex in the first place because of external notions or pressure, I recommend praying about things and searching the scriptures, asking God for understanding. What you need to know is in there and can come through.
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