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Foundation lighter than MAC nc15? - UPDATED

PigletPiglet Posts: 1,451Registered Users
I know I'm probably driving everyone mad with all this foundation talk. Believe me, I'm driving myself mad. I'm still on the look out for a foundation. I 'think' my skin is probably quite neutral. I don't want anything yellowy or too pink. I've tried MAC NC15 and it was too dark. I've also tried NW15 and it was darker.

What else have I tried....
L'oreal True Match - The Ivoire Rose was bright pink. The rest were yellow.

Estee Lauder Double Wear Ecru and Shell. Ecru was orange, Shell was just a tad too peachy.

Estee Lauder Lucidity in their lightest colour - jaundice.

Maybelline, Max Factor, Guerlain, YSL, Chanel, Clinique, Benefit, Lancome...not light enough.

Mineral makeup doesn't seem to give enough coverage.

I'm getting desperate. If you had my skin you would too.

Any recs?
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  • luvmylocsluvmylocs Posts: 7,578Registered Users
    i haven't followed your other threads but meow cosmetics has wonderful foundation and many shades with various undertones.
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  • rouquinnerouquinne Posts: 13,495Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    Fresh foundation in the shade Fair Isle is light and neutral in tone.

    Make Up For Ever in Alabaster

    Estee Lauder Double Wear in Shell

    Laura Mercier in Cream Ivory or Porcelain Ivory

    Tarte Smooth Operator in Facade or Conceal

    Illamasqua shade RF105 is practically WHITE!

    NARS Sheer Glow in Siberia

    good luck!
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    Do you think you're around Dita Von Teese's skin color? She uses/used Chanel Vitalumiere liquid in Nude.

    DVT:

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    Also try Revlon's Colorstay Foundation, Clinique's lightest shade (Alabaster?), Dainty Doll/Jelly Pong Pong, Kevyn Aucoin SX1, Youngblood Minerals in Pearl, Manic Panic, Ben Nye, Joe Blasco, Kryolan, Shu Uemura, Nixie.

    The ones bolded might be your best bets, as they are stage brands or are used for special effects type makeup. Good luck!

    Some links:

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  • rouquinnerouquinne Posts: 13,495Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    she posted elsewhere that she tried the Chanel and it didn't work for her...
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    Ahhh...OK.
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  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I was going to say, try the Illamasqua. You could always get the 105 which is practically white like Rou said and mix it with a darker shade. It might be a little pricier that way, but you'll get more foundation too... I know one girl that does it that way because she's too fair for any other foundation she's ever found.

    Good luck piglet! I know it's frustrating, I'm in a similar situation though I don't think I'm QUITE as pale as you are... I feel your pain though!
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  • PigletPiglet Posts: 1,451Registered Users
    Thanks for the responses everyone. I am definitely not as pale as Dita Von Teese. I looked at Chanel foundations once before and they just were not light enough. To be honest, I'm a bit sceptical about what Dita says she uses, as I read an interview in which she said she uses a particular L'oreal foundation. I duly went to investigate, thinking that the next shade down might be promising. The shade Dita said she uses is pink and too dark for me.

    I've heard lots of rave reviews about Meow, but I'm in the UK and don't want to chance ordering foundation online.

    I will check out some of the recs on here. I'm going foundation shopping on Friday. Laura Mercier looks like a possibility. I've tried their mineral make up before (no good) but wouldn't mind trying their liquid foundation. I just find that so many foundations look pale in their pot, then you put some on your skin and they are much darker!

    I'll have another look at Chanel though - maybe where I'm going will have more shades.

    In truth, I don't think I'm that pale. It's just that when it comes to foundations, I do seem to be pale. And with foundation, it has to be just right.

    I'll look at Illamasqua too.

    I hate foundation shopping. My skin is appalling so I don't like taking my make up off. I also hate how I get told that it's the right colour, but it looks orange outside. I also hate trying to work out whether something matches my skin tone exactly. Most of all, I hate the idea of spending £30 on a foundation that's the wrong shade and I can't return it. I get the impression that it's easier to return unwanted make up in the USA. Over here, if you don't like it, tough.

    Thanks again for the recs. I'll post an update at the weekend.
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    I looked at Chanel foundations once before and they just were not light enough. To be honest, I'm a bit sceptical about what Dita says she uses, as I read an interview in which she said she uses a particular L'oreal foundation

    Yeah, I'm kinda skeptical too. That's just what she told me.
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  • RednaturalcurlsRednaturalcurls Posts: 1,814Registered Users
    I am a pale girl with some pink in my skin. I can never find a foundation light enough either. At this point I use a green concealer to cancel out the pink/red spots and a little powder on top of that in the shiny spots and that's it. That seems to work better for me. Have you looked at that idea? Not necessarily a green concealer because you said you are neutral but maybe just a concealer with some powder? Concealers tend to be a bit lighter.
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  • mrspoppersmrspoppers Posts: 7,223Registered Users
    Did you ever try PartyHair's favorite mineral foundation, Everyday Minerals? They have an intensive coverage line that was way too heavy for me. The colors are are very light too. They ship to the UK, which is probably pricy, but the foundation itself is inexpensive (less than 6 pounds). They do lots of samples, which are a pretty good size.
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  • mrspoppersmrspoppers Posts: 7,223Registered Users
    Foundation changes color on my skin. I guess it's the oil? The key to getting a good match is to narrow down the color possibilities to one or two then wear them for a half hour to see how they change.
    When are women going to face the fact that they don’t know their own bodies as well as men who have heard things?

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  • PigletPiglet Posts: 1,451Registered Users
    I have foundation!!! I spent all day looking and have returned with Bobbi Brown foundation in alabaster. I won't be 100% certain it's right until I try it properly tomorrow (lighting is too bad now) but I'm as sure as I can be. It looks to be about the best I've found, anyway. I also got the matching concealer.

    I tried tons of foundations today. I went to Laura Mercier first and the foundation, concealer and powder looked terrible. The colour was off, but more than that, it looked like it was sitting in my pores and had a horrible finish to it.
    I tried Georgio Armani. I said the foundation looked a bit peachy for me and was told that there's no pink in it, but when I went outside in natural light, IT LOOKED PEACHY.
    I looked at Dior again, but every shade was too dark.
    I had a further browse at Chanel, thinking that they should have more colour selection here. Everything was way too dark. I appreciated their honesty that it was all too dark for me though.
    I looked at Shu Uemura, but the shades were 'off' on my skin. The closest one was just a tad too dark and beige.
    I also tried YSL foundation and it was nasty. It was too dark, cakey, seemed to come off absurdly easily.

    Thank you thank you thank you for your suggestions and help. It is such a relief to have found something and fingers crossed I'm still happy with it when I try it in the cold light of day tomorrow.

    MrsPoppers - I have also heard that it can be the oil that causes foundation to change colour. As if oily skin wasn't annoying enough!

    Rednaturalcurls - concealer was going to be my fallback. I don't know why concealers come up so much paler. Benefit's Boing in 01 is fine on me.
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  • RednaturalcurlsRednaturalcurls Posts: 1,814Registered Users
    Glad you found something. I know how incredibly frustrating that is to not be able to find one in the right shade for you. It's like they don't believe that us really pale, ghosty girls exist. And I hear you on the Laura Mercier. I tried it too and it did the same thing to me. Bobbi Brown wasn't bad but the one I used ended up being a bit too yellow for me. After several other attempts with no luck, I fell back on using concealer only since I know I can get a match there although I still look at foundations from time to time to see what's new.
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  • PigletPiglet Posts: 1,451Registered Users
    Thanks Rednaturalcurls. I hope you find a foundation that suits you. When I started to look for foundation, I truly didn't think it would be this hard. I always thought that with so many fancy brands, it would be a doddle and would just come down to me being ultra picky about the different properties of the foundation.

    I tried on the foundation today and I think it's ok. The coverage isn't amazing, but I have concealer. I think the colour is ok. I was slightly concerned about my neck/chest looking slightly darker, but the foundation blends nicely into my chest and any darker would look too dark on my forehead and cheeks. I think I'm a bit paranoid about it. Also, now I've had the foundation on for a couple of hours, I think it has settled nicely.
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  • rouquinnerouquinne Posts: 13,495Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    piglet, i'm so glad to hear you found one. i know the frustrations i've gone through over the years whenever MAC discontinues a formula i like, and i can't imagine how difficult it is for people paler than me to find something decent.
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  • PigletPiglet Posts: 1,451Registered Users
    Thanks Rou. It is so frustrating when companies discontinue something. I was truly shocked at the lack of pale foundations out there. I was well aware of the problems women of colour had with foundation (and with good reason - some of the colour selections seemed to forget that non-white people exist) but didn't think that it would be so hard to find a pale foundation.

    I'm not astounded by this foundation's staying power and it would probably suit a drier/more normal skin type than mine, but I'll learn to work with it. I suppose it takes time to work out how best to apply it, what works best underneath it and what powder is best. I'm wondering if a mattifying primer on my nose and chin might be the way to go. Also, it doesn't help that I was so used to working with my old foundation as I had used that for many years. I wish it was possible to get a sample of Clarins' Truly Matte foundations in their two lightest colours, but head office won't send me any samples, while saying that the foundation is only available online in the two lightest colours.
    Yes, my tail is naturally curly.
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  • MarshmallowFluffMarshmallowFluff Posts: 7Registered Users
    I know that this thread is probably dead by now, but I have the same problem finding a foundation that is light enough. I have pale, pink-toned skin, and I find that the lightest Revlon ColorStay foundation is perfect for me. It is the lightest I have found, and is pretty neutral, not too pink, not too yellow. It gives full coverage as well and lasts all day (I apply it with a foundation brush).

    I know that many people find it to be a superior drugstore brand, and I agree. I also like L'oreal True Blend foundation, but this one gives a great, natural finish without the odd shimmer.

    Good luck!
  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
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  • rouquinnerouquinne Posts: 13,495Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    message 3 - i suggested the whitest shade they make!

    it looks almost like *snow* in the swatch on the website!

    :shock:
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    Oh whoops, sorry, Rou.
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    Whenever I see another white foundation, I think of this thread. Here's another one: MAKE me UP

    Scroll down maybe half way down the page.
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  • pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    The temptalia foundation matrix might help someone out.
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    I'm still searching for a NC10 foundation that I like. I like the color, but hate the sparkle of my current foundation, revlon photoready in 001 ivory.
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  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    pedaheh wrote: »
    The temptalia foundation matrix might help someone out.
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.temptalia.com%2Ffoundation-matrix" class="Popup

    I'm still searching for a NC10 foundation that I like. I like the color, but hate the sparkle of my current foundation, revlon photoready in 001 ivory.

    My revlon colorstay is the same way. It looks fine inside but outside I look like a damn twilight vampire. No thanks. it IS at least the right color... *sigh*

    Has anyone tried the Maybeliene "Fit" foundation? I think it was either 105 or 110 that looked like it might be a good match on me, but when I swatched it on my hand it felt super oily... so I was hesitant to buy...
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  • pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    MimsTX wrote: »
    pedaheh wrote: »
    The temptalia foundation matrix might help someone out.
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.temptalia.com%2Ffoundation-matrix" class="Popup

    I'm still searching for a NC10 foundation that I like. I like the color, but hate the sparkle of my current foundation, revlon photoready in 001 ivory.

    My revlon colorstay is the same way. It looks fine inside but outside I look like a damn twilight vampire. No thanks. it IS at least the right color... *sigh*
    The colorstay is sprarkly too? Darn. That was on my "to try" list. Do you have the normal to dry colorstay or the normal to oily colorstay?
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  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    pedaheh wrote: »
    MimsTX wrote: »
    pedaheh wrote: »
    The temptalia foundation matrix might help someone out.
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.temptalia.com%2Ffoundation-matrix" class="Popup

    I'm still searching for a NC10 foundation that I like. I like the color, but hate the sparkle of my current foundation, revlon photoready in 001 ivory.

    My revlon colorstay is the same way. It looks fine inside but outside I look like a damn twilight vampire. No thanks. it IS at least the right color... *sigh*
    The colorstay is sprarkly too? Darn. That was on my "to try" list. Do you have the normal to dry colorstay or the normal to oily colorstay?

    I'll check when I get home... I'm honestly not sure. And probably I should test it in the sun again to be sure I'm not confusing it with a different foundation, as I have about 5 that I'm trying at the moment to find a good fit lol
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    Not sure about: Boots, Tweek, KBB Milk, DMHJ
    HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
  • rouquinnerouquinne Posts: 13,495Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    Phoenix wrote: »
    Whenever I see another white foundation, I think of this thread. Here's another one: MAKE me UP

    Scroll down maybe half way down the page.

    wow! that Barry M has a decent price!
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  • aliquotaliquot Posts: 227Registered Users
    pedaheh wrote: »
    MimsTX wrote: »
    pedaheh wrote: »
    The temptalia foundation matrix might help someone out.
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.temptalia.com%2Ffoundation-matrix" class="Popup

    I'm still searching for a NC10 foundation that I like. I like the color, but hate the sparkle of my current foundation, revlon photoready in 001 ivory.

    My revlon colorstay is the same way. It looks fine inside but outside I look like a damn twilight vampire. No thanks. it IS at least the right color... *sigh*
    The colorstay is sprarkly too? Darn. That was on my "to try" list. Do you have the normal to dry colorstay or the normal to oily colorstay?

    Colorstay is matte. Revlon photoready is the one with sparkle.

    Had anyone yet mentioned that mac makes a white face and body foundation? You can mix it with anything to lighten the color. They sell it at pro stores, I believe.
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