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bad shampoo ingredient list needed now that I have eczema

I know there is a list out there of the bad ingredients in shampoos. I've seen it before , but I can't find it.

I just went to see the dermatologist, and she says that the itching and massive amount of flakes in my hair is due to eczema. She said I have to shampoo my hair every day and recommended something called DHS with pyrithin? zinc in it. When I went to check it out; it had TEA sulfate in it. I'd like to know if it is a bad sulfate like SLS. Also, really--I have to shampoo everyday?

Oh, and she's presribed Clobetesal which is a med that comes in an alcohol base so it doesn't make the hair greasy. I'm supposed to apply this 2x a day. Alcohol in my hair 2x a day plus shampooing daily? My hair is going to be a absolute wreck. Anyone with eczema with alternatives?

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  • nutterbutterflynutterbutterfly Posts: 137Registered Users
    I've had eczema for the past 12 years (since I was 4). I find it funny that your derm. would tell you to wash every day, because the LAST thing you want to do with eczema is dry it out. I've had to switch over from soap to using facial cleanser (soap-free, hydrating) everywhere else.

    When I get eczema on my scalp, I just stay away from using anything with fragrance or dye in that area. I avoid scratching (obviously), and waterwash using the pads of my fingers. If it really needs cleaning, I use a fragrance-free, soap-free face wash on it. Your scalp is skin just like anywhere else- you just have to remember that whatever you put there is going to affect your hair (at least the roots) as well.

    Also, alcohol isn't ALL bad for your hair. Cetyl alcohol, I think, is actually moisturizing.
    I am a 3a/b with normal-coarse hair that is medium-thick and fairly porous.

    Currently using:
    ~VitaminShampoo (CG :mrgreen: )
    ~L'oreal Vive Pro Nutri Gloss for medium to long hair that's curly/wavy
    ......wow that is a mouthful.
    ~Garnier Fructis curl-shaping spray gel
    *or*
    ~Pantene curl defining mousse
  • Name StolenName Stolen Posts: 24Registered Users
    Yeah, but this is the bad alcohol.

    So no one has the link to the list of bad shampoo ingredients? Come on, someone must know where it is found!
  • burgundy_locksburgundy_locks Posts: 2,420Registered Users
    i'm sure you can find the list in the newbie section.

    g/l
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    i has no hair type? (medium, f-iii), normal porosity, LOW elasticity.
    CG journey began 2/8/09 - 4-08-09.. and then mod cg 4/14/09 -... 03/02/10- Barely CG but I like CG products :)
    wash with Low Poo or Poo
    condition with GVP Conditioning Balm or CJ BC Daily, Loreal Color Vive for Color Treated Hair Thats Normal
    Leave ins- Garnier S&S; Marrakesh oil
    style with - Ohm SHP; KCCC- BRHG or Boots- KCCC- BRHG; CIAB; CCCC
    Protein- GVP Joico K-Pak
    Play with ACV
  • CrazyCurlyMomCrazyCurlyMom Posts: 7Registered Users
    I have what my doctor called exzema on my scalp and went the medicated shampoo route and the topical steroid route. It only made it worse for me. I have been rinsing with apple cider vinegar and have seen the flakes vanish. Since joining this site I have since discovered that the acv is good for my curls...phew... and I swear by it for my scalp. I just add about 2 tbs to warm water and pout it on my head once I am done my "routine". I also use it as an astringent on my face and it has cleared that up too!! :blob7:
  • anniemaeanniemae Posts: 1,702Registered Users
    Yeah, but this is the bad alcohol.

    So no one has the link to the list of bad shampoo ingredients? Come on, someone must know where it is found!

    Look here:

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Flivecurlylivefree.com%2Fproduct%2520ingredients.htm" class="Popup

    or try this:

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikihow.com%2FFollow-the-Curly-Girl-Method-for-Curly-Hair" class="Popup

    Good luck!! :)
    Hair Type - wavy/curly, fine texture, thin/medium density
    2b-c/F/ii
    :dog:
  • anniemaeanniemae Posts: 1,702Registered Users
    I know there is a list out there of the bad ingredients in shampoos. I've seen it before , but I can't find it.

    I just went to see the dermatologist, and she says that the itching and massive amount of flakes in my hair is due to eczema. She said I have to shampoo my hair every day and recommended something called DHS with pyrithin? zinc in it. When I went to check it out; it had TEA sulfate in it. I'd like to know if it is a bad sulfate like SLS. Also, really--I have to shampoo everyday?

    Oh, and she's presribed Clobetesal which is a med that comes in an alcohol base so it doesn't make the hair greasy. I'm supposed to apply this 2x a day. Alcohol in my hair 2x a day plus shampooing daily? My hair is going to be a absolute wreck. Anyone with eczema with alternatives?

    My daughter has eczema also, and she just went to the dermatologist last week. The doctor said to use Neutrogena T/Sal Therapeutic Shampoo. She also prescribed Beta-Val Lotion - a clear liquid that you are supposed to dab on your scalp twice a day when needed. The doctor also never said how often to wash her hair, but my daughter shampoos everyday. She only gets flakes and itchy at certain times of the year - certain seasons, so it's not too bad.

    fyi - the Neutrogena shampoo contains salicylic acid, cocamidopropyl betaine, sodium c14-16 olefin sulfonate, linoleamidopropyl pg-dimonium chloride phosphate, sodium lauroyl sarcosinate, polyquaternium-22, hexylene blycol, sodium citrate.
    Hair Type - wavy/curly, fine texture, thin/medium density
    2b-c/F/ii
    :dog:
  • GreencurlsGreencurls Posts: 81Registered Users
    I figured out that propylene glycol in my conditioner was causing eczema on my hands. So now I avoid it. (It was even an ingredient in the eczema medication I was using!)
  • rosabearrrosabearr Banned Posts: 165Banned Users
    Since Spring/Summer
    I was going threw itch thing too

    I tried medicated shampoo for dandruff with
    Pyrithione Zinc,Selenium Sulfide these don't help your scalp they just make feel more dry.

    So after many uses, I decided to try something eles. I when to Sally Beauty Supply. I bought GVP Paul Mitchel Tea Tree Shampoo it has dicomonol but work to help with itching. It has cool feeling too. I also straighten my hair once or twice a week. Now the hair straighten have germ free feature that helps lifts out dandruff.

    I would honest just straighten your hair out for one day it might lift out the dandruff than back to your routine. Sometimes heat is the only thing can help big time.
  • Name StolenName Stolen Posts: 24Registered Users
    [ Now the hair straighten have germ free feature that helps lifts out dandruff. ]

    I'm not sure what you mean by that.

    Also, I've never really been able to straighten my hair. It's always got some wave in it even when I blow dry it out with a brush. Actually, I don't think I even own a brush any more, just a pic. I got a flat iron two years ago, but have only used it once. I had a lot of little hairs sticking up on my canopy and it was still wavy. I think it also breaking off hairs. I guess I would need a hair straightening tutorial before I tried it again. :p
  • CurlyOver40!CurlyOver40! Posts: 758Registered Users
    I have one small area on my scalp that itches and gets scabby. I've tried all the poos and meds the doctors suggested...none of them worked.
    I finally heard about this gem:

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    I bought it at Walgreens

    I put a dab on every night.. put my hair up in a pineapple and it works!
    Love this stuff.

    3a/3b

    Latest routine:
    Sauve Coconut CO
    Or
    Trader Joe's Nourish
    Giovanni 50/50
    Giovanni Direct Leave In
    JoicoWhip
    Newest Fav: Curl Junkie Coffee-Coco Curl Creme
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  • Name StolenName Stolen Posts: 24Registered Users
    Does the bag balm make you hair greasy?
  • CurlyOver40!CurlyOver40! Posts: 758Registered Users
    I only have a very small area that bothers me.. and it only goes on my scalp. And yes, that small area gets a little greasy. I use it only at night and most of it is gone by the morning and so it's not very noticeable. It washes out when I wash my hair.

    3a/3b

    Latest routine:
    Sauve Coconut CO
    Or
    Trader Joe's Nourish
    Giovanni 50/50
    Giovanni Direct Leave In
    JoicoWhip
    Newest Fav: Curl Junkie Coffee-Coco Curl Creme
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  • 2poodles2poodles Posts: 2,480Registered Users
    I don't know if this is the list you're looking for or not.

    I also found the list below that is from Paula Begoun, who wrote a book called Don't Shop for Hair Care Products Without Me - or something like that. This is a shorter list of ingredients to avoid if you have itchy, sensitive scalp issues:

    Shampoo Cleansing Ingredients To Avoid:

    Extremely common ingredients

    Sodium Lauryl Sulfate
    Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate
    Ammonium Laureth Sulfate
    Ammonium Xylene Sulfonate
    TEA Lauryl Sulfate
    Sulfur (in dandruff shampoos)
    Selenium Sulfide (in dandruff shampoos)

    Less common ingredients

    Magnesium Sulfate
    Sodium Thiosulfate
    Sodium C14-16 Olefin Sulfonate
    Alkyl Sodium Sulfate
    Alkyl Benzene Sulfonate
    TEA-Dodecylbenzene
    Sodium C12-15 Alkyl Sulfate
    Sodium Dodecyl Sulfonate

    Shampoo Additive Ingredients To Avoid:

    Avocado
    Balm Mint
    Balsam
    Essential Oils
    Eucalyptus
    Grapefruit
    Horseradish
    Lavender Oil
    Lemon
    Lime
    Menthol
    Orange
    Papaya
    Peppermint
    Rose
    Sage
    Thyme
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]2Poodles :flower: Southeast PA
    fine, med porosity, normal elasticity
    Currently using the following 2 - 3 x/week:
    Living Proof Perfect Hair Day suphate-free Poo, cone-free CO and styling treatment, plus KCCC

  • Heather0kayHeather0kay Posts: 667Registered Users
    Not only do you have to watch the ingredients in shampoos you must also look out for propelene glycol and pvps or anything that will coat the hair will also coat the scalp and irritate it.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Type: 3a, fine, thin, low porosity Water/Climate: soft/ marine Washes: water w/washcloth, shikakai, clay Condition: Style:Seamollient, CurlsPFCCP, Miracurl, Gel-les'c, CK; rudeechick's super soaker method; blot, air dry 30 min; diffuse
  • Name StolenName Stolen Posts: 24Registered Users
    Holy Cow! More than half the stuff I have has propylene glycol or PVP in it including the BRHG, the [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curly-Hair-Solutions-SLIP-Detangler-p-46.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=curly-hair-solutions-slip-detangler]CHS Slip[/buylink] and others that I have been using almost everyday!

    So what detangler and gel does not have these evil irritants in it?
  • Heather0kayHeather0kay Posts: 667Registered Users
    These evil things don't bother a lot of people but I would get itchy peely patches when I used CK with propelene glycol. Sometimes if you rotate products it will help but it is best to eliminate them for awhile at first to see what happens. All of the products in my signature are "clean" or cleaner than most. Some people have problems with build-up from polyquats in the Komaza aloe and JC C&S but I do not.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Type: 3a, fine, thin, low porosity Water/Climate: soft/ marine Washes: water w/washcloth, shikakai, clay Condition: Style:Seamollient, CurlsPFCCP, Miracurl, Gel-les'c, CK; rudeechick's super soaker method; blot, air dry 30 min; diffuse
  • nomilknoglutennomilknogluten Posts: 121Registered Users
    I have terrible problems with both eczema and psoriasis on my body and scalp. I have tried just about everything, and still haven't found a solution, so keep us posted on your journey!

    The one thing I will recommend is Home Health psoriasis medicated scalp and body wash. Although it does have 2 sulfates (sodium myreth sulfate and TEA- lauryl sulfate), they are the last things on the ingredient list. The numerous herbal extracts soothe my poor scalp (temporarily, at least) and my hair responds very well. I buy it at my local whole foods.

    Here is a link with a picture:
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iherb.com%2FHome-Health-Psoriasis-Medicated-Scalp-and-Body-Wash-8-fl-oz-236-ml%2F6489%3Fat%3D0" class="Popup

    I also enjoy conditioners and no-poos that contain peppermint oil, tea tree oil, ACV rinses, olive oil applied with a dropper to my scalp before bed, AND the topical steroids prescribed by my doc. :happy2:

    And yet I'm scratching as I type this... :help:
  • Name StolenName Stolen Posts: 24Registered Users
    So, I went to the local herb shop. I picked up loose nettles to make a rinse, calendula oil since the herbalist said that it is the key calming ingredient in a lot of natural itch remedies, neem oil since it is in so many itch relief products, rosemary oil, coconut oil, and Nature's Gate itch relief conditioner. When I got home, the steriod prescription had finally azrrived in the mail. So I'm going to experiment.

    I did a deep treatment of coconut oil/rosemary oil for a few hours. I then washed it out using the Naked Naturals avocado shampoo since I have't found an itch relief one with appropriate ingredients yet. Then I let my hair soak with the Nature's Gate conditioner for abut 10 min. It was very tingly. I did the nettle tea rinse, then I used AO White Camellia as a leave in. Used FSG. I did not apply any gel as I don't have one without the evil ingredients mentioned in the other posts. My hair will just have to be crummier than usual. Then applied the steriod to half of my head. I want to see if the natural stuff will be enough to calm the itch and rid me of the flakes.

    As of this morning, the non-steriod side is a little less itchy and the steriod side is even less itchy. I'm going to continue this experiment for a while to see if the non-steriod side can catch up.

    Oh, I never did use the neem oil. I opened it up and thought I might vomit--literally my stomach turned. Think rancid garlic and rotten eggs. I'm having a hard time believing people put this in their hair.
  • rosabearrrosabearr Banned Posts: 165Banned Users
    Sorry for such long wait to your reply.
    I will re-start again with Generic Value Product - Paul Mitchel Tea Tree - Shampoo. I have been using for 2 months now. I have seen a different with less itching. I mostly noticed itching a lot after the application with hair dye.

    So the way, I how I use my shampoo is. I just take shower. Squit a little shampoo and apply to the scalp. You let you let on your scalp for about 5 minutes. If you watch the The DOCTORS (Fox 11) Southern California which we have very humity wheather in summer.

    Regarless if contains one sincone. Will, I will try to some post a video of how explain better on how might help

    I don't really like the straight look all that much but, I do find it help with my itch probably. Normally, I am not type to brag about something in less. I have tried and it work. If does not work go back to for refund or I give it someone

    Moving forward how to flat iron helps

    Some flat irons are made with feature called

    Nano silver - Its add with most update flat irons being made not saying like you need name brand flat iron but this article talks about how /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.physorg.com%2Fnews5536.html" class="Popup ray light helps to break down batercia. So another words. You can try combing out your hair and it will not remove the flakes it will just keep re-appearings. So if you go over it. You would be breaking down that stiffs ( which looks similar to gray hair) I noticed my hair would get softer with heat application. So worth try.





    [ Now the hair straighten have germ free feature that helps lifts out dandruff. ]

    I'm not sure what you mean by that.

    Also, I've never really been able to straighten my hair. It's always got some wave in it even when I blow dry it out with a brush. Actually, I don't think I even own a brush any more, just a pic. I got a flat iron two years ago, but have only used it once. I had a lot of little hairs sticking up on my canopy and it was still wavy. I think it also breaking off hairs. I guess I would need a hair straightening tutorial before I tried it again. :p
  • pelicanopelicano Posts: 580Registered Users
    I have seborrheic dermatitis of the scalp, which is often misdiagnosed as psoriasis or eczema. I can't use any of the harsh treatments usually prescribed - they don't help my scalp and they certainly don't help my hair.

    I find that what helps me most is this regime:

    1. Daily water wash and scrub with my fingers - this loosens a lot of flakes. Once a week I use a sulfate-free shampoo.
    2. Mild mostly natural conditioner, avoiding the scalp. Ideally for my scalp I wouldn't use conditioner at all, but my hair needs it, so it's a compromise!
    3. Glycerine, shea butter and coconut oil on my hair only.
    4. Glycerine on my scalp overnight.

    Glycerine really helps my scalp. Ideally I'd put it on my scalp right after washing, but it's a bit much for my hair during the day (makes it look greasy).
    Sarah.

    Based in the UK. 2-something (2b?) hair. Very porous, fine and brittle/fragile

    Hair loves: Drip drying, glycerine, shea butter, oils
    Hair hates: Plopping, any kind of gel, most conditioners (scalp issues).
  • rosabearrrosabearr Banned Posts: 165Banned Users
    I like Shea Butter it seems like better natural ingridents


    Garnier Triple Treat Conditoner - Has that ingrident

    pelicano wrote: »
    I have seborrheic dermatitis of the scalp, which is often misdiagnosed as psoriasis or eczema. I can't use any of the harsh treatments usually prescribed - they don't help my scalp and they certainly don't help my hair.

    I find that what helps me most is this regime:

    1. Daily water wash and scrub with my fingers - this loosens a lot of flakes. Once a week I use a sulfate-free shampoo.
    2. Mild mostly natural conditioner, avoiding the scalp. Ideally for my scalp I wouldn't use conditioner at all, but my hair needs it, so it's a compromise!
    3. Glycerine, shea butter and coconut oil on my hair only.
    4. Glycerine on my scalp overnight.

    Glycerine really helps my scalp. Ideally I'd put it on my scalp right after washing, but it's a bit much for my hair during the day (makes it look greasy).
  • Wild Curls Raquelle Wild Curls Raquelle Posts: 793Registered Users
    I've suffered with eczema my whole life and recently noticed it in my hair. I am poo free. I love dessert essence jojoba condish it does wonders. As far as my scalp keeping my hair moisturized has done wonders from my scalp. Castor oil also a bit of a wonder tool. Vitamin E oil also very helpful a little goes a long way with these oils. If you mix them with rosewater & gylcerin you can spritz it so your scalp doesn't feel coated. Add an essential oil like peppermint or tea tree it will cool and sooth the scalp tremendously.
    confused curls
    addicted to henna

    Fotki
  • CurliLocksCurliLocks Posts: 10,572Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    pelicano wrote: »
    I have seborrheic dermatitis of the scalp, which is often misdiagnosed as psoriasis or eczema. I can't use any of the harsh treatments usually prescribed - they don't help my scalp and they certainly don't help my hair.

    I find that what helps me most is this regime:

    1. Daily water wash and scrub with my fingers - this loosens a lot of flakes. Once a week I use a sulfate-free shampoo.
    2. Mild mostly natural conditioner, avoiding the scalp. Ideally for my scalp I wouldn't use conditioner at all, but my hair needs it, so it's a compromise!
    3. Glycerine, shea butter and coconut oil on my hair only.
    4. Glycerine on my scalp overnight.

    Glycerine really helps my scalp. Ideally I'd put it on my scalp right after washing, but it's a bit much for my hair during the day (makes it look greasy).

    What shampoo do you use? I hope it's available in the States. :)
    I know to avoid sulfates, but I did not know many of the things in the list 2poodles posted. :eek:

    I previously purchase Trader Joe's Nourish shampoo, found I can't use it. So I just bought TJ's Refresh shampoo, but now I see many of the bad ingredients, I guess it's going back!
    SF Bay Area, CA * "The Angel-Goddess-Guru of Haircoloring" :D
    3b/c/a mix. medium texture, low porosity
    My Motto: Strand Test! some hair pics
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