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Bleaching Hair; How Damaging?

HateRelationshipHateRelationship Posts: 100Registered Users
I was wondering,m just how damaging is bleaching hair? I have a 3a/3b mixture and thin hair. I'm planning on growing my hair out and getting it dyed in about March.

My Hair Now: l_3ac15de9029c48d29ae50c851a0851e2.jpg


The Coloring I Want:
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So, how much damage will this switch in colors do to my hair? Will I have to use special products and refrain from flat ironing?
I'm growing my hair from chin length to mid-thigh length!
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  • curlprocurlpro Posts: 333Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Dear HR, I hate to break it to you but without killer decolorization and toning, and even after that, you will never be able to keep that ashy pearl color in your hair. I have the exact haircolor and texture as you do, I am a stylist for over 20 years and I spent about 10 of them trying to get that color to no avail. Oh, they will tell you thay can do it but they can't. They will argue and say I didn't know what I was taking about and I'm just some girl online and how did you know she was qualified, I KNOW HOW TO DO IT IT WILL BE GREAT. They will take your money and your hair will look like Halle Berry in three months. I know I'm being flip about it, but only because I remember all the times I thought, "ok this will be it, this (product,toner,color) will surley do it, it's new technology..." and there is nothing left but the crying, and the cutting.
    Now, I can't stop you if you are determined so at least find a stylist that uses Shwarzkopf cream bleach, it is the only one I know of that has no sodium thyoglycolate which straightens curls, and the toners and colors are very gentle, (don't do it' don't do it) and they will be the least damaging. Can I interest you in a nice beigy caramel instead???
    Good luck,
    Cynthia
  • HateRelationshipHateRelationship Posts: 100Registered Users
    curlpro wrote: »
    Dear HR, I hate to break it to you but without killer decolorization and toning, and even after that, you will never be able to keep that ashy pearl color in your hair. I have the exact haircolor and texture as you do, I am a stylist for over 20 years and I spent about 10 of them trying to get that color to no avail. Oh, they will tell you thay can do it but they can't. They will argue and say I didn't know what I was taking about and I'm just some girl online and how did you know she was qualified, I KNOW HOW TO DO IT IT WILL BE GREAT. They will take your money and your hair will look like Halle Berry in three months. I know I'm being flip about it, but only because I remember all the times I thought, "ok this will be it, this (product,toner,color) will surley do it, it's new technology..." and there is nothing left but the crying, and the cutting.
    Now, I can't stop you if you are determined so at least find a stylist that uses Shwarzkopf cream bleach, it is the only one I know of that has no sodium thyoglycolate which straightens curls, and the toners and colors are very gentle, (don't do it' don't do it) and they will be the least damaging. Can I interest you in a nice beigy caramel instead???
    Good luck,
    Cynthia


    Aww, really? What about just a typical dirty blonde? Can that be achieved with relative ease?
    I'm growing my hair from chin length to mid-thigh length!
  • curlprocurlpro Posts: 333Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Dirty blonde maybe, if you lift your base to a 6 level cool base light brown and then hi lite, you can get a good result. Just keep the base as ashy as possible.
    Good luck,
    Cynthia
  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Wow!

    Curlpro, you're amazing. Can I run color questions past you, too?
  • curlprocurlpro Posts: 333Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Sure, anytime. I love color and have helped a few ladies here via PM. One had so many charactors we had to start a new one (LOL). I like to share it on the post so others can learn too if you don't mind.
    Make sure you have some pictures, and if you can tell me the brand of color and I can get a swatch chart online that helps too.
    Cynthia
  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Thank you!

    Here's my question: are lowlights as effective a way to cover grey as highlights? Right now, I have lowlights over some all-over color, the all-over (which matches my natural color) being used to cover grey (it was only moderately effective). The lowlights did a far better job of covering grey, although I don't want to darken my hair over all.

    Should I keep doing both, or just the lowlights?

    TIA

    HateRelationship, hope you don't mind the big guano!
  • HateRelationshipHateRelationship Posts: 100Registered Users
    ninja dog wrote: »
    Thank you!

    Here's my question: are lowlights as effective a way to cover grey as highlights? Right now, I have lowlights over some all-over color, the all-over (which matches my natural color) being used to cover grey (it was only moderately effective). The lowlights did a far better job of covering grey, although I don't want to darken my hair over all.

    Should I keep doing both, or just the lowlights?

    TIA

    HateRelationship, hope you don't mind the big guano!

    Not a problem!
    I'm growing my hair from chin length to mid-thigh length!
  • curlprocurlpro Posts: 333Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    The upside of all over color is that it covers all the gray but you get a line down the part when it grows out, downside.
    With Lowlights you cover some of the gray and leave others out so you don't get the dramatic line. The downside is you will have gray showing. I like gray hair and I am not sure what your natural color is but some gray showing doesn't bother me. I use three or sometimes four colors for my low/hi lite and that all mixes with the gray for an all over shiny interesting look. I keep it lighter around the face and gradually go darker toward the back.
    Cynthia
  • notyouraveragecurlnotyouraveragecurl Posts: 193Registered Users
    Wow, i can't believe I didn't find this thread beforehand! I've been dying to try out some new colour as well (though not until I grow out a little)! My concern is the orangey-ness that ladies with dark black hair like me get by going lighter.

    I've been playing with the idea of getting caramel/chocolate highlights for a subtle lightening effect over the summer but I'm a little worried about a--the damage, and b--the brassiness.

    But I'm soooo boored with my colour now (it's in my avatar) and have been kind of wanting a change! :) I heard you should do protein treatment after colouring but I'm so bummed about any potential damage that might come around...bah, I dunno!

    Help me, curl pro! You're my only hope! :notworthy:
    There is a phenomenal amount of beauty in self-acceptance. <3
  • FriggaFrigga Posts: 42Registered Users
    Yeah, bleaching damages, like curlpro said. I just got it done about a month ago, highlights that is, thinking it would blend my grey well. It sort of did, but it KILLED my hair! I had healthy, I mean really healthy BSL hair and didn't think the process would be that damaging to it. then it started breaking left and right, not to mention the multitude of split ends that cropped up ( 2 months since my last trim). I just wacked about 4 inches off to regain it's health. Everyone raves about the color saying I need to keep it, it looks great, makes me look young, yeah, but it's not worth it to me, or my pocket book! I plan on dying it back in about another month if I feel the damaged had rebounded enough. Would it be safe curlpro?
    Best of luck in your decision though!
    Sulfate free since may of 08!!
    MOD CG since July 09

    2b-3a from base to canopy, Self proclaimed 2.5c,botticelli f-mii
    Hendigo head!
    lo poo: burt's bees, Dr. Bonner's
    co wash: Deva curl no poo or suave
    Condish: biologe conditioning balm
    Stylers: AG re:coil, FSG and proclaim
    Plopping...where have you been all my life?!
  • morrighumorrighu Posts: 707Registered Users
    Bleaching is very damaging to ANY hair and it's especially damaging to curly hair. Furthermore, it will likely relax your curl. It doesn't matter how you do it - at the salon, from a kit, sun, chlorine - all of it seems to relax curl.

    However, if you want to color your hair, follow the link to the wiki in my sig.
  • NalliaNallia Posts: 2,979Registered Users
    Bleaching likely will relax your curl and make your hair very brittle, but I can attest to how great Schwarzkopf is. I get all over color, highlights, and low-lights, and Schwarzkopf is all my current stylist uses.

    My hair was a brittle, stringy mess and almost all of my curl in the highlighted areas was gone. I had so much breakage and damage from the coloring before I changed stylists that I thought my hair was never going to look healthy again. After 6 months of having my hair colored with Schwarzkopf, my hair looks healthy again and the curl is coming back. You can see the difference in my siggy. :)

    Going CG has also been great for me, but I don't think it would have made much difference in my hair if I hadn't switched stylists and hair color as well.
    "...just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face." ~Harry Dresden

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  • curlyloxprincesscurlyloxprincess Posts: 1Registered Users
    I did a search for that bleach earlier to find a salon who uses that and no one does in my state:( my salon uses all mastey products
  • Curly_QueCurly_Que Posts: 2Registered Users
    I'm considering getting highlights. I have been CG for 4 months and am curious how you color your hair under the CG process? Do you just go to the salon and let them wash & condition your hair with the typical products they use and then go home and start CG all over?
  • VersaceCrazyVersaceCrazy Posts: 662Registered Users
    curlpro wrote: »
    Dear HR, I hate to break it to you but without killer decolorization and toning, and even after that, you will never be able to keep that ashy pearl color in your hair. I have the exact haircolor and texture as you do, I am a stylist for over 20 years and I spent about 10 of them trying to get that color to no avail. Oh, they will tell you thay can do it but they can't. They will argue and say I didn't know what I was taking about and I'm just some girl online and how did you know she was qualified, I KNOW HOW TO DO IT IT WILL BE GREAT. They will take your money and your hair will look like Halle Berry in three months. I know I'm being flip about it, but only because I remember all the times I thought, "ok this will be it, this (product,toner,color) will surley do it, it's new technology..." and there is nothing left but the crying, and the cutting.
    Now, I can't stop you if you are determined so at least find a stylist that uses Shwarzkopf cream bleach, it is the only one I know of that has no sodium thyoglycolate which straightens curls, and the toners and colors are very gentle, (don't do it' don't do it) and they will be the least damaging. Can I interest you in a nice beigy caramel instead???:rolleyes:
    Good luck,
    Cynthia

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  • millie_(A)TCKmillie_(A)TCK Posts: 404Registered Users
    I am a bleaching addict and have never had any problems dying my hair except for once. That one time was because I was lazy with the after care. I just re-did my red and caramel highlights on the weekend, and my hair has never been softer or curlier! And my natural hair color is black! From 4 years of playing with dyes I can definitely say that healthy bleached hair is only achieved through the daily use of quality products.
    3c/4a. Very Fine and Thin.
    Moisturizers: QB Burdock Root butter creme, Curl Junkie, Abba Pure Gentle leave-in
    Styling Products: Curls Souffle, Curl Junkie Coffee Creme
    Curl Cremes: Jessicurl Confident Coils
    Conditioners: Deva Curl One, Mixed Chics DC, Nature's Gate Biotin
    DT:AO Honeysuckle Rose, Coconut oil.
  • bettinflabettinfla Posts: 389Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Where can this bleach be purchased/????
    Thx
    Homemade FSG, CK, KCCC and BRHG. Co wash w/Suave, or soap bars (occasionally) or Come Clean (Kinky Curly).
  • NalliaNallia Posts: 2,979Registered Users
    Curly_Que wrote: »
    I'm considering getting highlights. I have been CG for 4 months and am curious how you color your hair under the CG process? Do you just go to the salon and let them wash & condition your hair with the typical products they use and then go home and start CG all over?
    Some people do. I get my hair colored every 6 weeks and don't get it shampooed, but I see a Deva certified stylist. She uses all Deva products and cleanses my hair after coloring with No-Poo
    "...just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face." ~Harry Dresden

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  • CandipooxxCandipooxx Posts: 31Registered Users
    Wow, I wish I had done my research before I had my hair bleached again. My hair was previously bleached but it retained curl. I had it done professionally this last time (used to do it myself with Sally's bleach). Ever since I went to the salon, my curls have been limp and horrible!!! The past few weeks my hair has been breaking off like crazy. I have lots of little pieces of breakage and my hair feels brittle. It was gorgeous when she first did it. It had no breakage at all! Now my curls are gone :(

    My question is... Will they ever come back? Please tell me I dont have to wait til it grows out because that would take years since my hair is pretty long. Do you think with lots of treatment it will eventually start curling like it used to? Its a wavy, tangly mess right now!
    :blob4:13 years of extreme hair damage. Started CG routine April 2010, no sulfates, no cones.
    Mostly 2c , bits of 3a

    *Products i'm currently using:
    Wash- Chagrin Valley shampoo bars
    Cowash- Suave Naturals coconut or Vo5 moisture milk
    Rinse- ...currently looking for a good one!
    Leave in- Tresemme Naturals moisture or Nature's Gate jojoba conditioner
    Stylers- FOTE, Proclaim crystal ice, LA Looks sports gel, Plopping!

    **Still experimenting looking for that perfect set of products.**
  • ChAoTiCbLiSsChAoTiCbLiSs Posts: 127Registered Users
    I am a bleaching addict and have never had any problems dying my hair except for once. That one time was because I was lazy with the after care. I just re-did my red and caramel highlights on the weekend, and my hair has never been softer or curlier! And my natural hair color is black! From 4 years of playing with dyes I can definitely say that healthy bleached hair is only achieved through the daily use of quality products.

    I second that...I've been a healthy blonde for 5 years..
    photo6k.jpg
    3b/2b/3c mix
    ~no heat, sulfates, silicones, mineral oil or petrolatum~
    CURLS, My Honey Child , KCKT, Uncle Funky's Daughter Curly Magic, & Elasta QP Feels Like Silk
  • mimikomimiko Posts: 120Registered Users
    I used to bleach my hair, and it takes out the curl of your hair, so it will be really droopy, sometimes almost straight. It's really awkward looking, I can't wait to cut the rest of my bleached ends off.
    3a/3b Protein sensitive
    Lo-Poo: MOP-C Hydration
    Co-wash TJ's tea tree, suave
    Conditioners: Yes to Cucumbers, TIGI Moisture Maniac
    DT:Ion reconstructor
    Leave-in: Giovanni DLI, Any of my other conditioners.
    Stylers: FSG!, Curl Keeper, HETT mousse, CJ CIAB, Garnier Fructis Pure Clean Gel, L'oreal Studio Silky Curls Gel, Deva Set it Free
    I diffuse and use CHS roller jaw clips
    I'm full Chinese and I never knew how to control my unruly hair until now! I <3 this website oh so very much.
  • walywaly Posts: 8Registered Users
    Hair straightened is at present has become the one of the biggest fashion craze in world of fashion. It is popular with hair stylists, salons and also for the women around the world. As by nature women loves to décor themselves with anything that makes them look different and beautiful so you can understand why your sweetheart will love the hair straightened. Earlier much attention was paid to costumes and make-up and most of the time the hair got overlooked. Then attention was paid on the hair styling that gave birth to blower, hair dryer and hair curler and gradually such inventions led to hair straightened.
  • walywaly Posts: 8Registered Users
    Then attention was paid on the hair styling that gave birth to blower, hair dryer and hair curler and gradually such inventions led to hair straightened.
    mimiko wrote: »
    I used to bleach my hair, and it takes out the curl of your hair, so it will be really droopy, sometimes almost straight. It's really awkward looking, I can't wait to cut the rest of my bleached ends off.
  • curlyaniecurlyanie Posts: 111Registered Users
    I am a bleaching addict and have never had any problems dying my hair except for once. That one time was because I was lazy with the after care. I just re-did my red and caramel highlights on the weekend, and my hair has never been softer or curlier! And my natural hair color is black! From 4 years of playing with dyes I can definitely say that healthy bleached hair is only achieved through the daily use of quality products.

    I second that...I've been a healthy blonde for 5 years..
    photo6k.jpg

    those products being?:blob8: i have black hair and i want to be a redhead someday (when i decide i can pull it off) can you give a run down on the key elements of maintaining bleached hair..thanks!
    product staple: suave coconut conditioner
    goal: healthy BSL! :D
    obstacle: haven't figured it out:crybaby:
    :protest:probable suspects
    • hard water
    • varying product use
    • weather-hair chemistry confusion
  • ChAoTiCbLiSsChAoTiCbLiSs Posts: 127Registered Users
    curlyanie wrote: »
    I am a bleaching addict and have never had any problems dying my hair except for once. That one time was because I was lazy with the after care. I just re-did my red and caramel highlights on the weekend, and my hair has never been softer or curlier! And my natural hair color is black! From 4 years of playing with dyes I can definitely say that healthy bleached hair is only achieved through the daily use of quality products.

    I second that...I've been a healthy blonde for 5 years..
    photo6k.jpg

    those products being?:blob8: i have black hair and i want to be a redhead someday (when i decide i can pull it off) can you give a run down on the key elements of maintaining bleached hair..thanks!

    Moisture, Moisture, and more Moisture!!

    In short, I eliminated things that could suffocate or block moisture from reaching my hair..heat, silicones, sulfates, mineral oil, and petrolatum.

    Also, I treat my hair like it's severely damaged. I use products made for dry, brittle, breaking hair, use non-protein DCs and instant conditioner for leave ins, overnight DC and the majority of my products (PJ..guilty!) are all natural. Moisturize and seal daily, and protect the hair at night.

    Curls, Kinky-Curly, and My Honey Child are great lines for all hair types.
    3b/2b/3c mix
    ~no heat, sulfates, silicones, mineral oil or petrolatum~
    CURLS, My Honey Child , KCKT, Uncle Funky's Daughter Curly Magic, & Elasta QP Feels Like Silk
  • curlyaniecurlyanie Posts: 111Registered Users
    curlyanie wrote: »

    I second that...I've been a healthy blonde for 5 years..
    photo6k.jpg

    those products being?:blob8: i have black hair and i want to be a redhead someday (when i decide i can pull it off) can you give a run down on the key elements of maintaining bleached hair..thanks!

    Moisture, Moisture, and more Moisture!!

    In short, I eliminated things that could suffocate or block moisture from reaching my hair..heat, silicones, sulfates, mineral oil, and petrolatum.

    Also, I treat my hair like it's severely damaged. I use products made for dry, brittle, breaking hair, use non-protein DCs and instant conditioner for leave ins, overnight DC and the majority of my products (PJ..guilty!) are all natural. Moisturize and seal daily, and protect the hair at night.

    Curls, Kinky-Curly, and My Honey Child are great lines for all hair types.

    thank you! your hair is BEAUTIFUL btw:love7: very inspiring!
    product staple: suave coconut conditioner
    goal: healthy BSL! :D
    obstacle: haven't figured it out:crybaby:
    :protest:probable suspects
    • hard water
    • varying product use
    • weather-hair chemistry confusion
  • ChAoTiCbLiSsChAoTiCbLiSs Posts: 127Registered Users
    Thank you! :)
    3b/2b/3c mix
    ~no heat, sulfates, silicones, mineral oil or petrolatum~
    CURLS, My Honey Child , KCKT, Uncle Funky's Daughter Curly Magic, & Elasta QP Feels Like Silk
  • bianca101bianca101 Posts: 1Registered Users
    hi, i have 3a type curly hair. last year i dyed my hair a dark brown but lately i've been thinking of going back to my original light brown - blonde colour. is there any way i can do this without killing my hair? thanks
  • SusieSuzeSusieSuze Posts: 524Registered Users
    One never knows with bleach.

    The type of bleach matters a lot, but also of extreme importance is the hair you are starting with.

    Is it fine? Already very porous? Already colour treated? Damaged from heat or other styling trauma?

    Another thing to really be careful with is how long you leave the bleach on. Once you reach the lightness you need, don;t worry so much about if it is still a bit yellow or gold. The toning process will neutralize it. Over bleaching to a lighter level than you need because you think you must remove all brassiness is a recipe for disaster. Have faith in your toner.

    We're all going to get very different results depending on these factors.

    Personally I love a nice light caramel with darker skin. Super blonde can look super cool too, but really I think it's less likely to be achievable by the majority of people. For those that can pull it off, awesome!
  • SusieSuzeSusieSuze Posts: 524Registered Users
    bianca101 wrote: »
    hi, i have 3a type curly hair. last year i dyed my hair a dark brown but lately i've been thinking of going back to my original light brown - blonde colour. is there any way i can do this without killing my hair? thanks

    There are other threads on this subject, but a quick answer is that permanent hair colour will NOT remove artificial pigments. You must decolorize with a bleaching shampoo and then use the colour you want.

    I would say it is likely that your hair will suffer a lot of damage with this. Perhaps using a non-damaging semi permanent medium brown might be a nice go between while you grow out to blonde.

    good luck!
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