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Is there an unspoken upper age limit...

~Ghost Poster~~Ghost Poster~ Posts: 2,264Registered Users
...for clubbing, in your opinion? Do you have your own personal unspoken, unofficial clubbing age limit? I mean for nightclubs that are clearly frequented by the under 35 crowd.

Not an "age limit" as in: shouldn't be admitted into the club, but just that age where you quietly think to yourself: He/She looks too old to be here or pathetic.

Unpopular and brutally honest opinions encouraged.

This is just an "out of curiosity" question, BTW.
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  • TrenellTrenell Posts: 3,562Registered Users
    I'm 35 and I still get my dance on. I do worry sometimes. But then I remember. "wait. None of these mofos are paying narry a one of my bills"
  • ~Ghost Poster~~Ghost Poster~ Posts: 2,264Registered Users
    Trenell wrote: »
    I'm 35 and I still get my dance on. I do worry sometimes. But then I remember. "wait. None of these mofos are paying narry a one of my bills"

    LOL! Good answer...thread over!
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  • ~Ghost Poster~~Ghost Poster~ Posts: 2,264Registered Users
    I was watching a reality show recently where a woman was out in a very young-crowd club with her daughter and ended up making out with one of the young male "stars" of the show. He was extremely drunk, and when he found out the next day, he was appalled. I had a whole spectrum of thoughts about it from : Get it, girl! to What ol' fool goes out clubbing with her grown daughter? I was applauding her for having the confidence to brave that crowd at her age--she didn't look very youthful. But, I was simultaneously embarrassed for her when I heard all the comments being made about her by the younger people.

    I also remember being that cute 21-yr-old snot, drunkenly laughing at the weathered-looking 35+ yr-old men and women in the clubs trying to find or maintain their grooves.

    Personally, I'm not comfortable in that atmosphere at age 43--no matter how great I may or may not look in a dimly-lit club. I'm not looking for a hookup or a man--my man is not and never has been a clubgoer, and the only freakin' I do is home behind closed doors. I'm happy that I got it out of my system back in the day, but kudos to those who still like to hit the clubs.
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    Depends on what a person looks like. It's all about appearances. Well, not all.
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  • wavycurly40+wavycurly40+ Posts: 2,017Registered Users
    I prefer live music clubs where an older crowd goes. But then again, I was never a huge trendy clubber, anyway. But at the "Old Folks' Clubs," I am able to believe that I'm not the oldest one there. Or the worst dancer. As an extra bonus, my favorite one also attracts a few college students, so I can flatter myself that I am not in a lame-o place that only caters to old farts like me.

    And I totally didn't answer your question. But was the woman on the reality show was being ridiculed for being in a club at her age, or was she being ridiculed for making out with somebody her daughter's age while her daughter was there? I'm not saying that I would judge that behavior-- oh no, not me -- but.....

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  • roseannadanaroseannadana Posts: 5,632Registered Users
    ...for clubbing, in your opinion? Do you have your own personal unspoken, unofficial clubbing age limit? I mean for nightclubs that are clearly frequented by the under 35 crowd.

    Not an "age limit" as in: shouldn't be admitted into the club, but just that age where you quietly think to yourself: He/She looks too old to be here or pathetic.

    Unpopular and brutally honest opinions encouraged.

    This is just an "out of curiosity" question, BTW.

    I don't think there's an upper age limit so much as usually those in the older crowd are only the occasional "clubber". Those who are regularly at clubs, yeah, I kinda think they might need to grow up. Or...maybe I'm just jellis. :mrgreen:

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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    I went clubbing a few weeks ago...first time in decades. I'm 47, and I was old enough to be the mother of nearly everyone in those clubs. So, I'd say 47 is definitely too old. That didn't stop the young men from hitting on my friends and me though. It was ridiculous. I think they thought older-woman-at-clubs = no-committment-easy-lay-cougar.

    Good for the ego though. ;)
  • wavycurly40+wavycurly40+ Posts: 2,017Registered Users
    I went clubbing a few weeks ago...first time in decades. I'm 47, and I was old enough to be the mother of nearly everyone in those clubs. So, I'd say 47 is definitely too old. That didn't stop the young men from hitting on my friends and me though. It was ridiculous. I think they thought older-woman-at-clubs = no-committment-easy-lay-cougar.

    Good for the ego though. ;)

    Hee! I'm gonna have to try that. Now, if I could just figger out the new-fangled moves these youngsters are doing nowadays... (puts knitting aside)

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  • ~Ghost Poster~~Ghost Poster~ Posts: 2,264Registered Users
    I prefer live music clubs where an older crowd goes. But then again, I was never a huge trendy clubber, anyway. But at the "Old Folks' Clubs," I am able to believe that I'm not the oldest one there. Or the worst dancer. As an extra bonus, my favorite one also attracts a few college students, so I can flatter myself that I am not in a lame-o place that only caters to old farts like me.

    And I totally didn't answer your question. But was the woman on the reality show was being ridiculed for being in a club at her age, or was she being ridiculed for making out with somebody her daughter's age while her daughter was there? I'm not saying that I would judge that behavior-- oh no, not me -- but.....

    This type of club would be fine for me now. If any young people frequent it, it's on *them* for being in the "old-timers'" club, and, I like that a sprinkling of youngsters would neutralize the "old-farts' club" vibe!

    In the show, HE was actually the one being ridiculed publicly for making out with her. His friend was with her daughter, so everyone was ooged out that he was with the mom. I'm sure plenty was said about her off-camera by the young clubgoers, but I'm just thinking about how hurtful it would be to hear yourself being referred to as the booby prize--on national tv, no less. Then again, she allowed them to show her face in the segment, so maybe she enjoyed the notoriety!
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  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    eh, I'm so old that these are the only clubs I remember from my youth...

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    I guess you're ok until you need a walker? ;)
  • wavycurly40+wavycurly40+ Posts: 2,017Registered Users
    Ah, Speckla, you DO make me laugh! Even in my advanced years.....

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  • ~Ghost Poster~~Ghost Poster~ Posts: 2,264Registered Users
    I went clubbing a few weeks ago...first time in decades. I'm 47, and I was old enough to be the mother of nearly everyone in those clubs. So, I'd say 47 is definitely too old. That didn't stop the young men from hitting on my friends and me though. It was ridiculous. I think they thought older-woman-at-clubs = no-committment-easy-lay-cougar.

    Good for the ego though. ;)

    Hee! I'm gonna have to try that. Now, if I could just figger out the new-fangled moves these youngsters are doing nowadays... (puts knitting aside)

    Oh, it's easy...just simulate a standing version of doggy-style sex to the beat of the music. It's just that *simple*! You can even get away with a variation of the missionary position--standing, of course. :oops::oops::oops::oops::oops:
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    I went clubbing a few weeks ago...first time in decades. I'm 47, and I was old enough to be the mother of nearly everyone in those clubs. So, I'd say 47 is definitely too old. That didn't stop the young men from hitting on my friends and me though. It was ridiculous. I think they thought older-woman-at-clubs = no-committment-easy-lay-cougar.

    Good for the ego though. ;)

    Hee! I'm gonna have to try that. Now, if I could just figger out the new-fangled moves these youngsters are doing nowadays... (puts knitting aside)


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  • wavycurly40+wavycurly40+ Posts: 2,017Registered Users
    doggie-style..... check.

    cocktails..... check.

    All-righty-then! I am good to go! Thanks, ladies! :laughing6:

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  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    Don't forget your cool message tee.

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    I don't know if that's a real site or not.
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    Speckla wrote: »
    Don't forget your cool message tee.

    hous_15_1_grannies_gone_wild_tshirt-p2359744505724111773mba_400.jpg

    I don't know if that's a real site or not.



    Um...yes it's real, and it's a clean site. HOWEVER...don't accidently type that address with .com rather than .net, because the .com version is NOT clean.

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  • roseannadanaroseannadana Posts: 5,632Registered Users
    doggie-style..... check.

    cocktails..... check.

    All-righty-then! I am good to go! Thanks, ladies! :laughing6:

    Can't wait to see the photos! :mrgreen:

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  • ~Ghost Poster~~Ghost Poster~ Posts: 2,264Registered Users
    doggie-style..... check.

    cocktails..... check.

    All-righty-then! I am good to go! Thanks, ladies! :laughing6:

    Can't wait to see the photos! :mrgreen:

    +1

    Better yet...find some drunk 22-yr-old guy to dance with and make sure it is filmed for posterity! :blob6:
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  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    doggie-style..... check.

    cocktails..... check.

    All-righty-then! I am good to go! Thanks, ladies! :laughing6:

    Can't wait to see the photos! :mrgreen:

    +1

    Better yet...find some drunk 22-yr-old guy to dance with and make sure it is filmed for posterity! :blob6:

    I will bring the camera!!!:laughing6:
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  • burgundy_locksburgundy_locks Posts: 2,420Registered Users
    Um...yes it's real, and it's a clean site. HOWEVER...don't accidently type that address with .com rather than .net, because the .com version is NOT clean.

    Don't ask me how I know this...

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    my aunt goes clubbing and shes almost hitting 50. she goes to dance with her husband and listen to music and sometimes me and my cousin go with her bc shes tons of fun. its not like shes going there to try to hook up, and there are limited good spanish clubs in Atlanta, so you gotta do what you gotta do!

    i have a bigger problem with under 21 clubs. i met a really cute guy once who ended up being a teenager!!! :sad7:
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  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    I'm almost 39. I actually look a lot younger. I LOOOVE to dance and am a pretty good dancer, but I don't like how people party now. I like having an actual REASON to put on makeup, wear a nice outfit, and fix up my hair to hear and dance to music I love.

    I had a friend (she and her friends were 25 to 30).....whom I used to go out with, but I can't get with the scene (or her) anymore. I've never been a big flirter and I don't drink much. Some of these guys nowadays are so........:confused2:

    Unfortunately, most women my age around here don't like to do much of anything. I wish I had a 35-and-up club buddy........not frequently, mind you......because sometimes a chick just needs to get out and away from housework and kids.

    And I refuse to go to any nightclub where there's no dress code. I wear t-shirts, jeans, flip-flops and sneakers EVERY DAY.....and don't feel like wearing them to go "out". That's just me, though.
  • roseannadanaroseannadana Posts: 5,632Registered Users
    We don't go to clubs. We're more of the local dive bar type. There are two bars near us at have local bands playing on weekends so we go there if we feel like socializing. I don't care for club music anyway and much prefer live bands.

    Oh, and there's a karaoke bar down the road too and we go there from time to time.

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  • JosephineJosephine Posts: 14,175Registered Users

    my aunt goes clubbing and shes almost hitting 50. she goes to dance with her husband and listen to music and sometimes me and my cousin go with her bc shes tons of fun. its not like shes going there to try to hook up, and there are limited good spanish clubs in Atlanta, so you gotta do what you gotta do!


    Guano - You're in Atlanta? What are some good latin clubs in Atlanta? I've been to la rumba but it's 18 up and on some nights it looks like it's hs night.

    For the OP, I don't know what the upper age limit is for me. Some of my friends used to talk about how some of the people at the clubs were so old(this is years back) and thought they shouldn't be there. I never cared as long as there were a good amount of people in my age range too. I always knew I'd be one of those 'old' people one day and honestly I kinda prefer the crowd be a bit more towards the older side than the younger side.
  • burgundy_locksburgundy_locks Posts: 2,420Registered Users
    Josephine wrote: »

    my aunt goes clubbing and shes almost hitting 50. she goes to dance with her husband and listen to music and sometimes me and my cousin go with her bc shes tons of fun. its not like shes going there to try to hook up, and there are limited good spanish clubs in Atlanta, so you gotta do what you gotta do!


    Guano - You're in Atlanta? What are some good latin clubs in Atlanta? I've been to la rumba but it's 18 up and on some nights it looks like it's hs night.

    For the OP, I don't know what the upper age limit is for me. Some of my friends used to talk about how some of the people at the clubs were so old(this is years back) and thought they shouldn't be there. I never cared as long as there were a good amount of people in my age range too. I always knew I'd be one of those 'old' people one day and honestly I kinda prefer the crowd be a bit more towards the older side than the younger side.

    Guano- NU UH Josephine!!! la Rhumba was EXACTLY what i was talking about. me and my cousin have gone with my aunt and her husband because, seriously, where else can we go!!!! and i met a cutie who wasnt drinking... i just thought he was the DD and wasnt drinking! lol. my cousin dances salsa ( i really dont :( ) so she heres about salsa nights, and we just go. some spots have latin nights a day out the month... crazy i know. we actually went to Primal this Sat. their outside section played spanish music and when we wanted some hip hop, we just went inside. so that was convenient. i like places like that where i can do both. i cant do all spanish or all english. i need VARIETY. PM me if u wanna talk some more!! i'm still relatively new to the A so i dont always know where to go. but we can def meet up if ur down.
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  • ~Ghost Poster~~Ghost Poster~ Posts: 2,264Registered Users
    Josephine wrote: »

    my aunt goes clubbing and shes almost hitting 50. she goes to dance with her husband and listen to music and sometimes me and my cousin go with her bc shes tons of fun. its not like shes going there to try to hook up, and there are limited good spanish clubs in Atlanta, so you gotta do what you gotta do!


    Guano - You're in Atlanta? What are some good latin clubs in Atlanta? I've been to la rumba but it's 18 up and on some nights it looks like it's hs night.

    For the OP, I don't know what the upper age limit is for me. Some of my friends used to talk about how some of the people at the clubs were so old(this is years back) and thought they shouldn't be there. I never cared as long as there were a good amount of people in my age range too. I always knew I'd be one of those 'old' people one day and honestly I kinda prefer the crowd be a bit more towards the older side than the younger side.

    Guano- NU UH Josephine!!! la Rhumba was EXACTLY what i was talking about. me and my cousin have gone with my aunt and her husband because, seriously, where else can we go!!!! and i met a cutie who wasnt drinking... i just thought he was the DD and wasnt drinking! lol. my cousin dances salsa ( i really dont :( ) so she heres about salsa nights, and we just go. some spots have latin nights a day out the month... crazy i know. we actually went to Primal this Sat. their outside section played spanish music and when we wanted some hip hop, we just went inside. so that was convenient. i like places like that where i can do both. i cant do all spanish or all english. i need VARIETY. PM me if u wanna talk some more!! i'm still relatively new to the A so i dont always know where to go. but we can def meet up if ur down.

    I'll just bet you two would have a great time if you went out together!
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  • roseannadanaroseannadana Posts: 5,632Registered Users
    doggie-style..... check.

    cocktails..... check.

    All-righty-then! I am good to go! Thanks, ladies! :laughing6:

    You'll be fine! Here's a training video to help get you ready for the big night!

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  • ~Ghost Poster~~Ghost Poster~ Posts: 2,264Registered Users
    I'm almost 39. I actually look a lot younger. I LOOOVE to dance and am a pretty good dancer, but I don't like how people party now. I like having an actual REASON to put on makeup, wear a nice outfit, and fix up my hair to hear and dance to music I love.

    I had a friend (she and her friends were 25 to 30).....whom I used to go out with, but I can't get with the scene (or her) anymore. I've never been a big flirter and I don't drink much. Some of these guys nowadays are so........:confused2:

    Unfortunately, most women my age around here don't like to do much of anything. I wish I had a 35-and-up club buddy........not frequently, mind you......because sometimes a chick just needs to get out and away from housework and kids.

    And I refuse to go to any nightclub where there's no dress code. I wear t-shirts, jeans, flip-flops and sneakers EVERY DAY.....and don't feel like wearing them to go "out". That's just me, though.

    I'm 43, and I probably look 30-32 in daylight (with the help of my meow makeup) (sarasara knows what I look like and could confirm [or deny!] this) and probably could pass for 25-ish in a dimly-lit club after everyone has had a few drinks. Honestly, it just doesn't seem like fun to me anymore. I personally would feel like a poser going to a club like that now. The last time I went out like that I think I was 31. I just feel too disconnected with the culture of that generation now. :shuffles back over to rocking chair:
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  • burgundy_locksburgundy_locks Posts: 2,420Registered Users
    ahhh GP! i think ur just going with the wrong people!!! i mean, if you like top 40 songs, and u go to a top 40 place, and ur in good company, you'll b good!!! i think the people ur with can make or break the experience for u.
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  • roseannadanaroseannadana Posts: 5,632Registered Users
    The last time I went out like that I think I was 31. I just feel too disconnected with the culture of that generation now. :shuffles back over to rocking chair:

    Ha! I took my youngest son and some of his friends to a concert several years ago and when I went to the ladies room, a couple of girls accused me of being a cop. LOL, I guess I looked like an authority figure, aka MOM. :)

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  • shorticurlzshorticurlz Posts: 1,056Registered Users
    I'm 24 and I got over the clubbing thing years ago, here is Australia the legal drinking age is 18 so I guess we get it out of our systems a little earlier :laughing6:. I do have friends who still like to go, but most of us would much rather go out to dinner or a quiet pub. I guess it depends on the individual's needs and energy levels. I've never looked at someone and thought they were too old to be somewhere, and really who cares?! If you're worried about being to "mature" to be somewhere, just take along a few friends your age.
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