Glenn Beck and some of the other Righties are losing it.

BoomygrrlBoomygrrl Posts: 4,940Registered Users Curl Neophyte
Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity especially are losing their marbles, especially Glenn Beck. He is wailing and would think the world is coming to an end. All the misinformation about the "Death Panels," and making it sound like private insurance is benevolent and public option insurance is going to deny us treatment (hello! Private insurance is already screwing so many people, unless you're pretty much healthy and don't need it...huh?!?). They point to how awful other countries have it and how great everything is now.

My husband watches this alarmist propoganda. I tell him to at least balance it some and watch other programs besides those on Fox. He said he would, but he hasn't so far.
I couldn't bear what Glenn Beck had to say about how there will be a redistribution of wealth from white folks to black folks. Hello! Most people on welfare are actually white. Granted, black people have a higher proportion on welfare...but actual's white people, since we're still the majority of the population. And what's wrong with helping any people? whether white or black? ack!

I left as soon as I heard Glenn Beck on his yelling tirades. My husband things Obama's administration and the current congress is going to ruin our country. He thinks I'm too naive. He doesn't understand how bad other people have it; he really doesn't.

I tried to explain how bad others have it and how although we are not constitutionally tied to helping others; we are not tied to not helping others. How it'll help everyone in the long run, yadda yadda yadda. He sees it as a difference in opinion and that's okay...but he still thinks that the logical conclusion is to listen to these freakazoids lament about how awful life is going to be soon and how unfair it is!

Lord help me!
Anyone else see it my way or am I being naive?
I just don't understand how getting worked up by misinformation and half-truths, trying to draw conclusions from them, and thinking I'm being naive all computes.
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  • BBBB Posts: 475Registered Users
    This article ran in the NYT. Share it with people who think out current system works.

    A New Heart, Tangled in Red Tape

    In the debate about health care overhaul, there are countless stories of families saddled with hospital bills and unemployed workers who have lost their insurance.

    But the story of Eric De La Cruz, of Las Vegas, stands out as a striking example of both the best and the worst that the American health care system has to offer — extraordinary medical prowess that is too often out of reach for all but the luckiest and best insured.

    In his early 20s, Mr. De La Cruz was told he had a disorder called severe dilated cardiomyopathy, in which the heart muscle becomes enlarged and weak. The symptoms include breathlessness, exhaustion and fluid buildup in the arms, legs and abdomen.

    He was a student who had worked part time as a graphic designer and a disc jockey, but none of his employers offered health insurance. Once his condition was diagnosed, his family says, he was unable to buy private insurance because he had a pre-existing condition.

    He twice applied for Social Security disability benefits, which would have entitled him to health coverage under Medicare. The applications were denied. He did eventually qualify for Nevada’s Medicaid program, which bases eligibility on financial need rather than age or disability.
    As his condition worsened, it became clear he would need a heart transplant. In some states and the District of Columbia, the transplant would have been covered by Medicaid — but not in Nevada, where the program covers heart transplants only up to age 20.

    Ben Kieckhefer, a spokesman for the Nevada Department of Health and Human Services, defended that policy. “All insurance plans decide what things they are going to cover and what things they are not going to cover,” he said. “Everyone in the state Medicaid program recognized the difficult situation the family was in, but we can’t just start covering something for one individual case.”

    This spring, Mr. De La Cruz’s sister, Veronica De La Cruz, a former anchor for CNN, began a two-pronged effort to save her brother. Her first hope was to win disability benefits so he could qualify for Medicare, which would cover a heart transplant. A hearing had been scheduled for spring 2010, far too late to save him. She appealed to state legislators to pressure a federal panel to expedite the disability hearing.

    “How can a sick person navigate the system?” she said in an interview. “I am healthy and can barely do it on my own. The system is designed for people to get frustrated and give up.”

    Ms. De La Cruz also began contacting heart transplant centers to determine whether she could pay for the operation with donated money. Because Nevada has no heart transplant center, she contacted several medical centers in California and was told that without insurance, her brother would need to post a deposit of at least
    $150,000 to be evaluated and placed on a waiting list. The total cost for the transplant and subsequent hospital care, as well as antirejection drugs, would be nearly $1 million, payable in advance.

    To exert public pressure and raise money, Ms. De La Cruz began sending out messages on Twitter, with daily tweets about her brother’s health, his dog, Chance, and the red tape she was trying to cut. She gained a following of more than 6,300 people, whom she began calling Eric’s Twitter Army.

    The troops included Trent Reznor of the band Nine Inch Nails, which said it would award donors backstage passes and time with the band; the famed Tony Hawk auctioned autographed skateboards. Supporters bombarded Nevada legislators with calls, faxes and e-mail. The Medicare hearing was rescheduled, and by June, Mr. De La Cruz had won his long-awaited coverage, opening the door to a heart transplant center.

    Elated, Ms. De La Cruz contacted U.C.L.A. Medical Center’s heart transplant program, but now the hospital insisted that her brother get a secondary insurance policy — even though Mr. Reznor told me the band raised nearly $1 million in less than two weeks. A hospital spokeswoman declined to comment on the case, citing patient privacy, but said the hospital “had been working with” the family.

    Eventually, Ms. De La Cruz arranged for her brother to be seen by doctors at the University of Southern California Medical Center. There, he spent a week on the “high-priority transplant” list.

    But his condition had deteriorated so much that he soon became too sick for the procedure. On July 4, Eric De La Cruz died, at age 31.

    Ms. De La Cruz says a surgeon told her he could have helped her brother, but he arrived “two years too late.” If not for all the delays and denials, she says, her brother would be alive today.

    She is still crusading, sharing the story with lawmakers in Washington and at rallies, including one in Times Square this past weekend. At the very least, she says, insurance companies should not be allowed to turn down patients with pre-existing conditions.

    “If my brother had been able to buy health insurance, he would never have been in this situation,” she said. “No one should ever have to go through what we’ve been through. Eric should still be alive.”
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  • cakj99cakj99 Posts: 575Registered Users
    i'm with you. i don't know if i could take it if my husband was conservative and/or watched foxnews. we're both very liberal, so we rarely have differences of opinion when it comes to social and political issues. in fact, he's probably more liberal than i am on some issues, lol. what confuses me most about this whole debate is why it's such a big deal to those who are so against a government run program to give those who have no health insurance the option to have SOME sort of insurance. yes, it will be publicly funded (by our tax dollars), but so are public schools, roads, and medicare/medicaid, right? and most of us are okay with having those things available, correct? i just think it's worth the try.
  • MichelleBFTMichelleBFT Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    BB wrote: »
    The system is designed for people to get frustrated and give up.

    That pretty much says everything that needs to be said about the current system. For me, a healthy adult with decent (not great, nor horrible) insurance, it's a complete song and dance just to find a new gynecologist, for example. A girlfriend of mine, who has a chronic disorder that require regular testing and various treatments, has a hell of a time finding doctors who are a) qualified and b) willing to do what needs to be done to keep her from being in constant pain. It's ridiculous.
    "And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
    Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,259Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Glenn Beck needs to go back to drugging and drinking. His demons are getting out of control again.

    Seriously...the guy is mentally ill. There's a reason why people self-medicate with booze and drugs.
  • BoomygrrlBoomygrrl Posts: 4,940Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    The man needs serious mental health help.
    That's right, I said it! I wear scrunchies!!

    I am a sulfate washing, cone slabbing, curly lovin' s.o.b. The CG police haven't caught me yet.

  • alacurlalacurl Posts: 1,199Registered Users Curl Novice
    ITA: Beck is krazee nutz!
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  • JLeighsJLeighs Posts: 904Registered Users Curl Novice
    The are both a couple of nutcases. They do nothing but push and push and push their absurd propaganda until people are at a fever pitch with fear and horror. Occasionally, when I have absolutely nothing better to do, and I want to practice my eye-rolling technique, I'll listen to Sean Hannity for a few minutes. All he ever says (in-between rants) is "you're a great American!" What a fruit loop.
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