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Homemade or store-bought protein treatments?

Does anyone have a preference for homemade or store-bought protein treatments? If so, which ones in particular?

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  • s-curl-7s-curl-7 Posts: 193Registered Users
    Great post - something I have wondered about myself!

    So far I've opted for the occasional egg wash and have never tried a store-bought protein treatment so can't compare.
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    3a; med-coarse; ii; med or high porosity (or a mix); med elasticity
    LOVE CJ products but CJ is no longer sold in Europe and does not ship to Europe so looking for other products. Like Crown Pride and Curly Kinks.
    Tools: curlease towel, wide toothed plastic comb, Braun Satin Pro Diffuser.
    Current HG: CJ CCCC-lite+BRHG
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  • mpgirlmpgirl Posts: 1,163Registered Users
    I used to make my own but I much prefer store-bought treatments for consistency and convenience. Homemade concoctions can be a mess and the quality of the proteins used is not reliable. I find that my results last longer and are more consistent when I use Nexxus Emergencee or Sally's Generic Joico K-Pak for my protein treatments. No measuring, no bad odors and no food bits stuck in my hair. Just apply and rinse in 2-3 minutes. Easy-peasy!
    3b spirals, fine texture, normal porosity, dense
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    Deva Low Poo
    Suave Naturals Coconut for detangling
    Renpure Organics conditioner/leave-in
    Homemade FSG
    KCCC
    Curl Junkie Stuff
    BRHG


    Nothing lasts, nothing is finished, and nothing is perfect. -wabi-sabi

  • pepperpepper Posts: 17Registered Users
    mpgirl wrote: »
    I used to make my own but I much prefer store-bought treatments for consistency and convenience. Homemade concoctions can be a mess and the quality of the proteins used is not reliable. I find that my results last longer and are more consistent when I use Nexxus Emergencee or Sally's Generic Joico K-Pak for my protein treatments. No measuring, no bad odors and no food bits stuck in my hair. Just apply and rinse in 2-3 minutes. Easy-peasy!

    LOL :laughing6:
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    I get better, more consistent results, AND I'll do them more regularly, with store-bought. I especially like Aubrey Organics GPB protein conditioner because it's moisturizing on its own and doesn't require using another conditioner afterwards. It contains no mineral oil and makes my curls spring up better than GVP reconstructing treatment (K-pak knock-off with mineral oil) or Nexxus Emergencee (have to condition afterwards). You can use as a 2-3 minute rinse-out conditioner or as a longer DT.

    I'm not crazy about the smell but it doesn't linger once rinsed. I'm told Whole Foods has other scents, but I haven't looked yet. A bottle is $10-12, but I've been using the same bottle at least once every two weeks, sometimes a couple of times a week, for about three months and still have about 1/4 bottle.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

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  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    mpgirl wrote: »
    I used to make my own but I much prefer store-bought treatments for consistency and convenience. Homemade concoctions can be a mess and the quality of the proteins used is not reliable. I find that my results last longer and are more consistent when I use Nexxus Emergencee or Sally's Generic Joico K-Pak for my protein treatments. No measuring, no bad odors and no food bits stuck in my hair. Just apply and rinse in 2-3 minutes. Easy-peasy!

    +1. I did the one with yogurt and Bragg's Amino Acids. I got tired of smelling like teriyaki marinade and soured milk. I use the three Nexxus protein treatments.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    Ugh, gross, LOL!
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • tootoocurlytootoocurly Posts: 25Registered Users
    Does Sally's Generic Joico K-Pak have mineral oil in it? I thought I remember seeing that. What does that do to one's hair?
  • s-curl-7s-curl-7 Posts: 193Registered Users
    This thread is making me consider trying a store-bought protein treatment next. Being med-coarse, I wonder what the best store-bought treatment would be. What seems to be the type(s) of protein that most hair handles the best? Hydrolized oat seems to be a protein type that some curlies who can take other protein types can't handle very well.

    Is there any difference in how oat vs soy protein work? Or keratin vs. corn, etc. I know I've read an overview of how different types of oils affect the hair, wonder if there is any similar overview of protein types? If applicable...
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    3a; med-coarse; ii; med or high porosity (or a mix); med elasticity
    LOVE CJ products but CJ is no longer sold in Europe and does not ship to Europe so looking for other products. Like Crown Pride and Curly Kinks.
    Tools: curlease towel, wide toothed plastic comb, Braun Satin Pro Diffuser.
    Current HG: CJ CCCC-lite+BRHG
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  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    Does Sally's Generic Joico K-Pak have mineral oil in it? I thought I remember seeing that. What does that do to one's hair?

    Yes.

    Here's a poll I tried to do about mineral oil. No conclusion, but you can see what people wrote.

    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?t=81921
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users
    Store bought. Partly because I can only do keratin, and homemade is often something else, and partly because I am lazy and it's so easy to just buy it.
    Kiva! Microfinance works.

    Med/Coarse, porous curly.
  • orangeserendipity32orangeserendipity32 Posts: 312Registered Users
    I was actually wondering the same thing. I have been getting split ends like crazy, even right after getting a hair cut. I have never had a problem like this before.

    Since being on these boards, I became weary of protein overload. I prob haven't done a protein treatment in about 2 yrs.! As far as I know I am only sensitive to wheat protein though.

    Does anyone know if this (a lack of protein) may be a cause of split ends? (I haven't been doing anything different to my hair to cause them as far as I can tell).
    2c?/low-med porosity/medium texture
    Summer Routine
    Co-wash: TJ's TTT condish
    Low-Po: SheaMoisture marine complex
    Condish: SheaMoisture marine complex
    LI: Giovanni Direct
    Stylers: Mop Top curling Custard, Curls Gel-Les'C & Biotera gel, BWC spray gel as finisher
    Refresh w/: LUSH R&B
    DT: Shea Moisture Superfruit 10-in-1 masque, Giovanni Nutrafix reconstuctor, jojoba & argan oils

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  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users
    I don't know for sure, but I guess it could contribute. Protein is said to help keep the hair shaft strong and it spackles (temporarily) missing bits in the cuticle. It would stand to reason that it can help delay when you gets splits.
    Kiva! Microfinance works.

    Med/Coarse, porous curly.
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    I was actually wondering the same thing. I have been getting split ends like crazy, even right after getting a hair cut. I have never had a problem like this before.

    Since being on these boards, I became weary of protein overload. I prob haven't done a protein treatment in about 2 yrs.! As far as I know I am only sensitive to wheat protein though.

    Does anyone know if this (a lack of protein) may be a cause of split ends? (I haven't been doing anything different to my hair to cause them as far as I can tell).

    Last Fall, after two months of using the more natural products--I started this thread:

    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?t=61606

    I do frequent protein treatments now, but going back to using a lot of Curl Junkie products certainly helps.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • mrd2knynmrd2knyn Posts: 8Registered Users
    My daughter and I, we both have 3c curly hair. Everyone in my family does, except our parents and my husband. Before we used blue magic (hair conditioner), baby oil, and sometime pink oil, but for about 1 month have been using mixed chicks hair products and nothing else. considering using carol's daughter black vanilla shampoo in place of the [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Mixed-Chicks-Shampoo-p-673.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=mixed-chicks-shampoo]mixed chicks shampoo[/buylink] though because I feel I do not get as much moisturized, soft hair and have read good reviews about the carol's daughter. :thumbup:
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    mrd2knyn wrote: »
    My daughter and I, we both have 3c curly hair. Everyone in my family does, except our parents and my husband. Before we used blue magic (hair conditioner), baby oil, and sometime pink oil, but for about 1 month have been using mixed chicks hair products and nothing else. considering using carol's daughter black vanilla shampoo in place of the [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Mixed-Chicks-Shampoo-p-673.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=mixed-chicks-shampoo]mixed chicks shampoo[/buylink] though because I feel I do not get as much moisturized, soft hair and have read good reviews about the carol's daughter. :thumbup:

    I rarely use shampoo and can't comment on the Carol's Daughter shampoo. Before buying their products, I'd do a search on this site. The reviews aren't too good. I tried the hair milk and leave in. Wanted to like it, but it left my hair dry and greasy at the same time. It just sat there. There are so many great lines, I'm sure you can find something else to use--Curl Junkie, Komaza, Donna Marie, Kinky Curly, CURLS. Look in CurlMart, they carry a lot of these products. You can at least read about them there.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]