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How your hair responds to mineral oil?

kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
In the discussions about protein treatments, some can use the K-Pak despite the mineral oil. I'm wondering if texture is the issue?

Let's see if I can set up a poll, LOL. Messed it up the first time because I wanted to change up what I was doing and it posted it. I still didn't get it quite right, but we'll see what happens, LOL!

My hair is fine textured and low porosity. Mineral oil is a problem for me. It's hard to remove and makes it dry and producty at the same time.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
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  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    Thought I answered before you added the poll, but either I didn't save it or it got lost while you were working on it . . . . Neither my hair nor I usually like mineral oil at all, but the apparently small amount in GVP K-pak never caused me a problem when I was using it. I only used it a few times, though, before moving on to Nexxus Emergencee and then on to AO GPB, neither of which have it.
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  • whatsercurlwhatsercurl Posts: 4,049Registered Users
    I put No. I've used a K-Pak a few times with no issues at all. Even before soap bars.

    Oh and I'm fine and medium porosity but you already know that. ;)
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  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    I put No. I've used a K-Pak a few times with no issues at all. Even before soap bars.

    Oh and I'm fine and medium porosity but you already know that. ;)

    I started to set it up with just texture--with a yes/no. It would probably have given better data, but I thought I should put in porosity. The three of us have fine hair--and it's mixed results already. We'll have to see how it goes.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • curlygirlymecurlygirlyme Posts: 1,340Registered Users
    I have medium texture & porosity. I cannot use mineral oil. My hair hates it. I cannot too much of any oil without problems but mineral oil seems to be the worst of all the oils I have used. I get very dry, frizzy, greasy, etc.
  • oddityofwingsoddityofwings Posts: 1,261Registered Users
    I've not tried the K-Pak, but I've used various products with mineral oil with interesting results. Seems that a single application of a product with a relatively low amount of it is not a problem - I can even get away with two or three applications. If a product is *mostly* mineral oil, then we have problems. For example, I was using a conditioner these past couple days with a little mineral oil in it. My hair seemed fine - not producty or unruly - but then I wasn't going curly due to scheduling issues, so don't know how it would have changed my curls. I lo-pooed this morning, then used CG products without any problem ingredients, and was fine. About a month ago, however, I tried using a conditioner with LOADS of mineral oil in it for just two days, and it took a good week to get it all out, despite lo-pooing every day.

    I've got fine to medium hair, and high to medium porosity.
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  • MintMint Posts: 1,143Registered Users
    Ick, yes. Mineral oil seems to make my hair flat and greasy when I have used it in anti-frizz creams. Although, I haven't used it since I was pre-mod-CG. I don't like to use it in cosmetics let alone hair. To each his own, though. If you like it, go for it.

    Also, I don't know my hair's porosity level. :confused: It soaks up water quickly and takes a long time to dry. It's not very soft in texture and often gets ruffled cuticles (hence I get brittle, dry hair with a few hairs that have a crazy bumpy/rough feel). That's why I voted medium and coarse.
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  • anatidaephobiaanatidaephobia Posts: 343Registered Users
    I've use K-Pak about twice a month at most. I'm wary of the mineral oil but so far so good.

    Incidentally, I use mineral oil to clean my brushes (oil paint) so I associate it with a chore that I don't much enjoy.
    CG since 6/15/09 -- fine/medium texture, medium porosity

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  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Posts: 15,402Registered Users
    Dries my hair out.
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  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users
    I chose no, coarse, high.

    For more specificity.

    I'm medium-coarse, porous, and can handle it in my protein treatment.

    I'm not sure if I could use it daily or anything like that.

    I do use Kinky Curly shampoo once or twice a month, so that may help too.
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  • wild~hairwild~hair Posts: 9,890Registered Users
    That poll is pretty jacked up! :lol:

    [But it's so not kathymack's fault. Polls here are hard, not remotely user friendly.]

    Anyway I voted yes, and this was a recent discovery. I was using the Sally's K-Pak knock-off and it really messed up my hair. Now I'm using Nexxus Emergencee instead.

    My hair is fine, high porosity.
  • tinahtinah Posts: 1,195Registered Users
    I've used the GVP k pak three times now and haven't noticed any issues with it. In fact it looks better now than any time since I've started CG. I'm not positive on my hair but I'm pretty sure it's fine and medium porosity.
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  • wild~hairwild~hair Posts: 9,890Registered Users
    I hope the GVP K-Pak knock-off works for people. But just a head's up that I used it for months before I got build-up from it. Initially I loved what it did.

    [The same was true of a Garnier Fructis product that messed up my hair real bad, after giving me amazing hair for about 6 weeks.]

    I never had a problem with the Joico K-Pak, though, FWIW, as mentioned in the OP. And apparently they both have mineral oil? Maybe it's in different concentrations.

    Anyway, my wariness of the whole mess is why I switched to Emergencee.
  • msgibletmsgiblet Posts: 5,825Registered Users
    I voted Yes, Medium, High.

    I've never used the K-Pak but my hair hates mineral oil to the point that I won't even try anything that has it in the ingredients.
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  • GreatcurlsGreatcurls Posts: 1,782Registered Users
    Mineral oil leaves my hair greasy and dry. It leaves my scalp greasy with big, white flakes, as well as itching constantly. My hair is mostly fine, though I've found some strands that are coarse.
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  • lazy loopslazy loops Posts: 8,792Registered Users
    Don't know & don't want to find out.
    Fine.
    Low porosity.
  • OnduleeOndulee Posts: 1,264Registered Users
    Fine, porosity med-high and the answer is I don't know for sure.

    When I used Joico K-pak, I love how my hair feels and even looks for a few hours. It really seems to lower the frizz, but I'm afraid of it building up so I don't use it anymore because of the mineral oil.

    I haven't found a protein treatment that seems to click with my hair except for genuine K-pak but like I say,(can't get GVP or Nexxus Emergencee) I'm afraid to use it in case I wreck my hair even worse than it is.

    I've been trying to make do with AOGPB but it doesn't have enough protein in it for me. If I knew if my hair could handle K-pak for sure, I wouldn't care about the price, I would use it often.

    BTW, from the experts here what should I look for or how should I set up a good test of the K-pak? What would be the "baddies" to look out for? I'm afraid to use it by itself, should I do that?
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  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    While I could set this up to collect really good data--not enough responses allowed--I don't think there is a real answer to this by hair qualities. Not everyone answered all the questions. Almost 60% who know they have problems .

    It would be interesting to know what % of people in the general curly population had each texture and porosity. Either more fine haired curlies choose to answer, or as I suspect--the greatest % of curlies have fine hair. The porosity is distributed in a normal bell curve--which I would anticipate, too.

    Overall, I think we can say that texture and porosity aren't the defining factor in tolerance for mineral oil.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users
    I know some have a problem from just one use but I wanted to try K-Pak at least 2 times before giving my 2cents. I'm Coarse/Med-High porosity.

    I didn't notice any ill effects, this is the only product that I have containing mineral oil and I don't plan to use it more then a couple times a month. I figured if RCC could use it without issues then I could to and our hair is similar in texture/porosity. I also Low Poo once a week or so through my length.
    Discovered CG 2007

    2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

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  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    M/semiporous and my hair hates mineral oil in anything or any order/amount. It's weighed down, gunky, and plastic looking when I use a product with it.:sad3:
  • goobernutgoobernut Posts: 2,317Registered Users
    I second what speckla said.

    In this case, for me, mineral oil doesn't dry me out, it clings on and I can hardly get it out. My curl pattern is also so weak that it weighs it down. And curl pattern isn't related to texture porosity.
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  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users
    DEL2C wrote: »
    I know some have a problem from just one use but I wanted to try K-Pak at least 2 times before giving my 2cents. I'm Coarse/Med-High porosity.

    I didn't notice any ill effects, this is the only product that I have containing mineral oil and I don't plan to use it more then a couple times a month. I figured if RCC could use it without issues then I could to and our hair is similar in texture/porosity. I also Low Poo once a week or so through my length.

    Are you finding that you are using more protein since it's summer? I'm up to weekly now with no problems. I wonder if my medium-coarse is leaning more towards medium?

    But, shoot, come winter I won't be using it at all...
    Kiva! Microfinance works.

    Med/Coarse, porous curly.
  • britney.britney. Posts: 292Registered Users
    I don't believe I've ever tried any products with mineral oil in it, but I don't want to... mineral oil is nasty stuff! It's a by-product of petroleum... ew. Plus, I believe it coats your hair just like how silicones do? But I assume mineral oil is easier to get out of your hair than silicones, haha.
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  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users
    DEL2C wrote: »
    I know some have a problem from just one use but I wanted to try K-Pak at least 2 times before giving my 2cents. I'm Coarse/Med-High porosity.

    I didn't notice any ill effects, this is the only product that I have containing mineral oil and I don't plan to use it more then a couple times a month. I figured if RCC could use it without issues then I could to and our hair is similar in texture/porosity. I also Low Poo once a week or so through my length.

    Are you finding that you are using more protein since it's summer? I'm up to weekly now with no problems. I wonder if my medium-coarse is leaning more towards medium?

    But, shoot, come winter I won't be using it at all...
    Yes, been playing with Protein more then ever this Summer, thanks to YOU;) I haven't been brave enough to do it more then bi-weekly so far!! Who knows what this Winter will bring, maybe once a month?? :? I stayed away from Protein other then LVPNG for months.....
    Discovered CG 2007

    2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

    Link-Spritz & Condish Washing:glasses7:

    I'm aCurlJunkieJunky :love4:

    My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:


    CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    DEL2C wrote: »
    DEL2C wrote: »
    I know some have a problem from just one use but I wanted to try K-Pak at least 2 times before giving my 2cents. I'm Coarse/Med-High porosity.

    I didn't notice any ill effects, this is the only product that I have containing mineral oil and I don't plan to use it more then a couple times a month. I figured if RCC could use it without issues then I could to and our hair is similar in texture/porosity. I also Low Poo once a week or so through my length.

    Are you finding that you are using more protein since it's summer? I'm up to weekly now with no problems. I wonder if my medium-coarse is leaning more towards medium?

    But, shoot, come winter I won't be using it at all...
    Yes, been playing with Protein more then ever this Summer, thanks to YOU;) I haven't been brave enough to do it more then bi-weekly so far!! Who knows what this Winter will bring, maybe once a month?? :? I stayed away from Protein other then LVPNG for months.....

    It's RCC fault I found a protein my hair likes (collagen - I almost gave up until reading about her success with finding one) and your fault I found an oil (coconut). For shame. I just wish my hair liked mineral oil because there's so many products I'd like to try. :angry2:
  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users
    Speckla wrote: »
    DEL2C wrote: »

    Are you finding that you are using more protein since it's summer? I'm up to weekly now with no problems. I wonder if my medium-coarse is leaning more towards medium?

    But, shoot, come winter I won't be using it at all...
    Yes, been playing with Protein more then ever this Summer, thanks to YOU;) I haven't been brave enough to do it more then bi-weekly so far!! Who knows what this Winter will bring, maybe once a month?? :? I stayed away from Protein other then LVPNG for months.....

    It's RCC fault I found a protein my hair likes (collagen - I almost gave up until reading about her success with finding one) and your fault I found an oil (coconut). For shame. I just wish my hair liked mineral oil because there's so many products I'd like to try. :angry2:

    Hey, I'm a pusher! :)

    Del, I'm mixing up word definitions. By bi-weekly, do you mean every other week or twice a week? I always mix up bi-weekly and semi-weekly.
    Kiva! Microfinance works.

    Med/Coarse, porous curly.
  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users
    Speckla I'll take that as a Thanks :p I don't even remember what made me try coconut oil now. I'm sure it was from the 4's forum.....

    RCC Bi-weekly would be every other week :D I wonder if I could stand it weekly..hmmmm but I think I may be more coarse then you are.
    Discovered CG 2007

    2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

    Link-Spritz & Condish Washing:glasses7:

    I'm aCurlJunkieJunky :love4:

    My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:


    CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users
    DEL2C wrote: »
    Speckla I'll take that as a Thanks :p I don't even remember what made me try coconut oil now. I'm sure it was from the 4's forum.....

    RCC Bi-weekly would be every other week :D I wonder if I could stand it weekly..hmmmm but I think I may be more coarse then you are.

    I'm pretty sure that you're more coarse and I'm more porous, so I should be able to handle more I suppose.

    If you could stand it weekly, August would be the time, lol.

    But, I do like to keep track of what you, Magoo, and Misspam do since I share product preference similarities with all of you.
    Kiva! Microfinance works.

    Med/Coarse, porous curly.
  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users
    Yeah, same here I hope magoo and misspam will weigh in too. curlyjenn10 is another coarse/porous
    Discovered CG 2007

    2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

    Link-Spritz & Condish Washing:glasses7:

    I'm aCurlJunkieJunky :love4:

    My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:


    CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
  • meadowlark2meadowlark2 Posts: 135Registered Users
    I voted no. My hair is mostly fine (according to my new stylist) and very porous.

    I use the generic k-pak and my hair seems to love it.
    cg Dec 08
    fine to med texture w/ some coarse / high porosity 2c to 3a






  • OnduleeOndulee Posts: 1,264Registered Users
    what products have collagen protein in them? I've tried soy proteins(hair hates that) keratin; hair loves it; silk proteins; hair seems to like it, I would like to give a collagen treatment a try.
    shoulder length inverted bob; fine; 3A-3B; med-thick density; normal porosity; normal elasticity- my hair loves keratin, ACV, silk protein ,Curlkeeper and AG:Recoil ; seems to hate moisturizing products and oils except mineral oil; CG- Jan/'09-mod CG Sept/'09;CG again Jan/'10/mod CG from Mar'10

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