bad haircut by deva trained stylist

gammagirlgammagirl Posts: 3Registered Users
I have been wearing my hair pretty long now for several years. I finally got it to were I felt sexy and the curls looked great. I would go every six months or so to my regular stylist who would trim it up for me . She would do an okay job-nothing spectacular but at least she wouldn't cut too much.

This time, I wanted some shape and decided to go to a Devachan trained stylist. I went on their website and found someone local. I met her and she had beautiful curls but she wore it short. Anyway, I explained to her that I wanted the layers shortened a little and just an inch off the ends. I just wanted to have a little width to my hair instead of it just hanging in my face. Anyway, she dry cut it. When she was done, thier was ALOT of hair on the floor. She said it was all the hair from the layers she cut. She did do a wonderful job styling it but it looked so much shorter. Anyway, it has now been 10 days and I am so depressed. She cut the layers so short and I have strands now hanging down from the layers. I should have body at the bottom of my hair, not halfway down. I know it will grow back but it takes so long. I feel like I can't trust any stylist now. I thought she knew what she was doing but apparently not. At least I can still wear all of it in a pony tail. My husband and kids tell me its not that short and its cute-so much more stylish. I just want my old hair back. I guess being Deva certified ( or trained) doesnt mean a whole heck of alot.

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  • LL~2009LL~2009 Posts: 146Registered Users
    I'm so sorry you are depressed about your haircut. I'd say yes, that although the Deva trained stylist are perhaps good, It doesnt make them perfect. My guess is something wasnt completely clear in the amount of hair you wanted cut off. maybe she didnt get it and that's really a shame. It's got to be the no. 1 issue in hair-cuts: communication.
    I am sure if you thought there was *anything* she could do to make it more bearable you could call and go back.
    When ever i am not happy with a cut i try to realize it's an accessory and i can attempt to be creative with it.
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  • oldiesgirloldiesgirl Posts: 28Registered Users Curl Novice
    The worst haircut I've had was at Arrojo in N.Y.,
    which is also supposed to specialize in curly hair.
    Unfortunately, that's not a guarantee. I did, however, get a good haircut at the Roy Teeluck salon, which is not a curly hair specialist.
  • carolinacurlygirlcarolinacurlygirl Posts: 20Registered Users
    i'm sure that it looks great. Sometimes it's a big adjustment - especially when it isn't the cut that you had in mind. Sorry that you're bummed about it, but it will grow back out and try your best to enjoy it for now! Maybe you could post pics :)
  • samirak1001samirak1001 Posts: 49Registered Users
    I know your pain. I had one really good cut with a deva trained stylist (like the best cut of my whole life), so naturally, I went back to her. For some reason, she not only wasn't able to maintain the shape I loved, but she gave me a shape that is making my curls so sad and frizzy and my hair doesn't look at all purposeful. It is taking me forever to grow out the bad cut. I was trying to grow out my hair after my BC and now I'll probably have to cut out the bad cut and start over again, becuase I'm losing my patience with waiting for this awful mess to grow out. I wish I knew how to cut my own hair. Hang in there and know that you aren't alone!


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  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I went to two Deva-trained stylists who were horrible. The stylist I go to now is also Deva-trained, but she cuts my hair wet by our mutual agreement. The dry Deva cut is simply not for all curly hair. Mine does much as the OP describes when cut that way - it just isn't all that curly any more and it NEVER curls the same way twice, so what works on the day its cut dry, doesn't most of the time afterward, giving me long scraggly pieces hanging down. I never wear my hair straight, but for anyone who does, this would be even more of a problem.

    Plus, if you go to the Deva site, you will see that Deva training only consists of a course of just a few hours on one day. Just because they attend that "Curlaboration" does not mean they're proficient at it or even that they've used it at all - that was the case of the two previous ladies I went to. I found them on the Deva site because they'd attended a Curlaboration session, but then they came home and had not put it to use.

    My current stylist does use it frequently on other curlies and tried it on mine once, but mine just does much better with a wet cut.
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  • AudreyEAudreyE Posts: 1Registered Users
    I am a professional stylist and a curly girl. I'd like to share my frustration and disappointment upon learning more about the Deva certification process. I do not know whether being Deva certified meant something in the past, but all it means today is that you attended a 9-5 course. A big chunk of this course is Deva product knowledge. (In fact, I was told I could not be listed in their directory even if I took the class, because my salon does not carry Deva products.)

    The actual time devote to cutting is 90 minutes. The first hour of this is watching someone else cut. Then there is a 30 minute workshop right before lunch. That is it! Try to imagine mastering a new technique like this with a mere 30 minutes of guidance. Not gonna happen. Going to the Deva salon in NYC would obviously be a really cool thing, but your local "Deva trained" stylist may be quite lacking.

    For the record, I am beginning to question how much of this is a gimmick. I have never been to a Deva stylist, but I have received many exceptional cuts using traditional methods. Honestly, the main consideration is just to be careful not to cut the hair too short. That's not the only consideration, by any means, but it is the primary one, and anyone who works with curly hair or who has curly hair can figure that out pretty quickly.

    So, in essence, I would say don't look for the certificate, look for good word-of-mouth. That's the only way to know for sure. And - keep in mind - even the most highly skilled stylist is going to disappoint you sometimes.

    I plan to attend a Redken seminar on curly hair in NYC. I am choosing this over Deva, because I truly expect to get more out of it.

    Audrey
  • burgundy_locksburgundy_locks Posts: 2,420Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    :(

    I've never had a Deva cut so I can't really compare. But I've always gotten my hair cut wet by the same rotation of salons. I straighten my hair every once in a while, so I explain to the stylist I need a cut that will work both curl and straight. I don't think I ever got a bad cut. The stylist knows my hair and knows what will work and can estimate the shrinkage based on my hair, which is why I cut wet.

    I'm not sure is Deva Cuts are gimmicks, because I seen a lot of girls on this site get great Deva cuts. But for me, my cuts work fine at about a tenth of the price!!!
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  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    AudreyE wrote: »
    I am a professional stylist and a curly girl. I'd like to share my frustration and disappointment upon learning more about the Deva certification process. I do not know whether being Deva certified meant something in the past, but all it means today is that you attended a 9-5 course. A big chunk of this course is Deva product knowledge. (In fact, I was told I could not be listed in their directory even if I took the class, because my salon does not carry Deva products.)

    The actual time devote to cutting is 90 minutes. The first hour of this is watching someone else cut. Then there is a 30 minute workshop right before lunch. That is it! Try to imagine mastering a new technique like this with a mere 30 minutes of guidance. Not gonna happen. Going to the Deva salon in NYC would obviously be a really cool thing, but your local "Deva trained" stylist may be quite lacking.

    For the record, I am beginning to question how much of this is a gimmick. I have never been to a Deva stylist, but I have received many exceptional cuts using traditional methods. Honestly, the main consideration is just to be careful not to cut the hair too short. That's not the only consideration, by any means, but it is the primary one, and anyone who works with curly hair or who has curly hair can figure that out pretty quickly.

    So, in essence, I would say don't look for the certificate, look for good word-of-mouth. That's the only way to know for sure. And - keep in mind - even the most highly skilled stylist is going to disappoint you sometimes.

    I plan to attend a Redken seminar on curly hair in NYC. I am choosing this over Deva, because I truly expect to get more out of it.

    Audrey


    ITA with all of this. This is exactly what my current stylist told me about her "training" experience - the one who does use the dry Deva cut on some, but agreed that mine does better wet. However, her salon is listed on the Deva site, although she has never carried the Deva products (just doublechecked, and she's still listed).

    She said she took it all with a grain of salt and used what she liked about it and ignored what she didnt, LOL. She, too, thought they were more concerned with pushing their products than anything else. The more I see and hear about Lorraine Massey, the more I'm inclined to agree.
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    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

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  • faithcurliefaithcurlie Posts: 28Registered Users
    Hey Guys--

    I'm not sure if everyone knows at this point, but just to reiterate, "Deva Trained" stylists are stylists who have taken a day's long seminar with stylists at Devachan, NYC. This means that they've literally had 8 hours of "training" before they call themselves Deva Stylists. Devachan calls them "Deva Inspired" stylists because the term "trained" is incorrect. At devachan, in order to become a stylist, you'd have to endure up to 4 years of assisting before you're allowed behind the chair. So, the only real way to get a true "Deva Cut" is to go to one of the Devachan Salons (Broadway, Broome or White Plains). FYI.
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