Regarding - is toner necessary

NuttyHairNuttyHair Posts: 75Registered Users
I thought that was a good question from about a week ago. Just poking around on Google and found this:
http://www.makeupdiva.com/archives/002353.html
(esentially that it's not necessary and probably doesn't do anything). While you can't believe everything on the net, it was a good article.
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  • lalapixielalapixie Posts: 242Registered Users
    probably those people have normal or dry skin, i have oily skin and for me even with a great cleanser i need that extra step in oil reduction, i've tried my routine without it, even using a gentle scrub in place of it and my face was gross, so now i use the cleanser, scrub, and toner and its perfect
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  • JuicyTubeJuicyTube Posts: 2,369Registered Users
    i use it on my forehead i can't stand to have an oily face!
    3b-3c CG
  • An AkashaAn Akasha Posts: 175Registered Users
    I have oily skin and toners do not work for me. Alcohol and witch hazel irritate and make my skin even oilier. :shock:
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  • Gemini13Gemini13 Posts: 5,000Registered Users
    An Akasha wrote:
    I have oily skin and toners do not work for me. Alcohol and witch hazel irritate and make my skin even oilier. :shock:

    Have you tried a toner without alcohol or WH? There are plenty on the market. Alcohol especially is notorious for irritating skin.
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  • An AkashaAn Akasha Posts: 175Registered Users
    Gemini13 wrote:
    An Akasha wrote:
    I have oily skin and toners do not work for me. Alcohol and witch hazel irritate and make my skin even oilier. :shock:

    Have you tried a toner without alcohol or WH? There are plenty on the market. Alcohol especially is notorious for irritating skin.

    I've tried a few, and aside from the nice smell, I really didn't see any difference in my skin. If you have any recommendations, though.... :D
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  • mrspoppersmrspoppers Posts: 7,223Registered Users Curl Novice
    I've been using Clinique Clarifying Lotion 2 for about 20 years and I can't live without it. If I don't use it, my face feels dirty and sort of flaky. I've tried other toners (i.e. "natural" or alcohol-free) and they don't do anything for me.
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  • modegrrlmodegrrl Posts: 274Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I started using one hoping it would reduce the size of my pores temporarily until I could get my makeup on. I don't think it really does. But it's good for mopping up the excess oil after cleansing. (I do the oil-cleansing method). I make my own and put tea tree oil in it, which I think is doing nothing. LOL, why am I using toner?
    Anyway, the one thing that did improve my skin was chamomile. I normally add a bit of rubbing alcohol to witch hazel and doctor it up with tea tree, glycerin, essential oils, etc. I decided to infuse some chamomile into the alcohol one day by soaking a chamomile teabag in it for a couple of days. Then I added the "extract" to my witch hazel as usual. It's the one thing that will calm down the redness in my skin.
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  • mandyvmandyv Posts: 2,437Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I love Clean and Clear toner for sensitive skin. I've been using it for years and it has helped eliminate breakouts. I have very oily skin.
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  • luvmylocsluvmylocs Posts: 7,578Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    as i understand it toner helps the skin go back to it's right pH if it's a good one. i use kiehl's tea tree toner (it's oil free) and sometimes i use plain witch hazel....both i think have contributed to me having better skin.
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  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,391Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I don't think most toners are likely to make a difference. Pretty much any decent face cleanser is going to give you a "deep clean." Using one with a little salycilic acid or benzoyl peroxide is even better. A toner will most likely irritate your skin, thus encouraging more oil production. Of course, a toner with a low pH will make your pores appear smaller...but only for a very short amount of time. Sillica and magnesium are definitely ingredients to look for in cosmetics if you want to decrease shine. And of course, you'd want to avoid mica in foundation, blush, etc. Some face powders contain corn or rice, but I've heard that these feed the bacteria that cause acne. I don't know if that's true, though.
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,259Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I use a neutral PH, detergent-free cleanser, so I don't need a toner afterwards. Toners are to re-condition the skin after using cleansers that strip away the skin barrier with alkalinity and detergents.

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