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Hair+child abuse

KinkyKeeperKinkyKeeper Posts: 963Registered Users
So these videos have been floating around many hair care sites today. But I want even more people to see it, the more people who report it and show it around, the better chance we have to take this slime sorry excuse for a mother down. Somebody knows who she is. Me and my mom just got done crying over this. I hugged her and thanked her for not being evil and full of hate towards me. Sadly, this little girl can say no such thing about her mother. Let the authorities know you care. I posted this in the non-hair section just becuase it's not only about hair.

So basically **If you are senstive to children do not watch this. This will piss you off!!**

OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD!

I feel sooooo sorry for this poor poor child. It makes me angry that this mother is doing this to her childs head. The baby is sreaming/crying and the mother just snapping that raggedy brush through dry natural hair. This is borderline child hair abuse at its finest! She even gets on top of the child on the floor and holds her to the ground and rips her hair out and curses at her and calls her "nappy headed"! OMG! The baby tells her mother "I HATE YOU"!! *cries to myself*

This is why children grow up thinking they have "bad hair" cause they mama's don't know the proper way to take care of it! If she only knew all she needed was some conditioner and a nice wide tooth comb! OMG!!

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We flagged the first one, but she removed the other two. Some LHCF'ers saved the videos and uploaded them on Zshare. Thanks for the links applebananas

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  • deletedelete Posts: 815Registered Users
    I only made it through 20 seconds of the first video. Oh, that poor little girl.

  • LotsawavesLotsawaves Posts: 8,660Registered Users
    Yea, the same for me. OMG! This has me in tears. Who knows how many times she has done this to this poor little girl. I'm definitely reporting it.
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  • SpringcurlSpringcurl Posts: 8,002Registered Users
    How can mothers speak to their children like this?
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  • burgundy_locksburgundy_locks Posts: 2,420Registered Users
    omg. i cant believe people like that exist in the world. i really have no words.
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  • afrosheenqueenafrosheenqueen Posts: 5,400Registered Users
    Well that was just ignorant. Does it really take all that to comb some hair? No, it doesn't. The mother wasn't even try to make a style or anything...she was just raking and pulling dry hair for I don't know what reason because we all know it won't straighten at all. Just trifling and dumb.
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  • afrosheenqueenafrosheenqueen Posts: 5,400Registered Users
    Now why would anyone post a video of something like that? Cursing your kids and pulling their hair out by the roots? What was this for?
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  • KinkyKeeperKinkyKeeper Posts: 963Registered Users
    Now why would anyone post a video of something like that? Cursing your kids and pulling their hair out by the roots? What was this for?

    Well that's the even sicker part. They thought this was funny, so they posted it to youtube under the heading "Nappy Ass Hair" and labeled it comedy and thought they would get people laughing. You can hear the sister in the background laughing the whole time.

    Actually it looks like somebody else has taken it upon themselves to repost it to youtube. Or at least the first video.
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  • geminigemini Posts: 3,325Registered Users
    Now why would anyone post a video of something like that? Cursing your kids and pulling their hair out by the roots? What was this for?

    This was my thought as well. I had a hard time watching and could not finish; the little girl reminds me of my daughter. :(
  • ScarletScarlet Posts: 3,125Registered Users
    That woman is a ****ing monster
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  • WiregirlWiregirl Posts: 1,695Registered Users
    WTF!:dontknow:
  • brown_eyedgal20brown_eyedgal20 Posts: 412Registered Users
    Huh. I may be ignorant, but why does she keep on brushing it??? It looked brushed out to me...

    I only watched half of it, and with no sound...thankfully...
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    What a sadistic mother. The way she was brushing it, all wild in all directions, she was just making more knots. And she just kept doing it over and over and over in the same spots. That poor little girl. Her head must hurt so badly. I wish I could rescue her.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    This is horrible.

    I saw it yesterday and couldn't stop crying. :cry: I hope the family or friends of the child recognize her and call protective services on her behalf. That child didn't deserve that. :-(

    She wasn't even styling her hair. Just brushing it over and over and cursing that child. I think the person who recorded it should be held responsible too. How can you sit by and watch that happening and think it's funny?!?!?! :angry7:
  • EternitycurlsEternitycurls Posts: 337Registered Users
    I didn't click on the link, I am too sensitive to want to see it and it sounds horrible from the responses.

    Can't the site it is posted on see what IP address the clip was from?
  • KinkyKeeperKinkyKeeper Posts: 963Registered Users
    I didn't click on the link, I am too sensitive to want to see it and it sounds horrible from the responses.

    Can't the site it is posted on see what IP address the clip was from?



    Well the original video was posted on Youtube, I don't know if you can track something from Youtube. These videos were just from someone who thought to save the videos so you wouldn't get the IP address of the abuser. But there are a lot of detectives out there, they have already found this woman's myspace page. She lives somewhere in Detroit.
  • afrosheenqueenafrosheenqueen Posts: 5,400Registered Users
    They thought this was funny...

    :rolleyes:

    Yeah...screaming kids crying themselves into hiccups is a real laugh-o-rama.

    It also saddens me how many AA people do not know basics in caring for their hair. My mom always comb my hair dry too. She kept in in a perpetual state of twists and braids so it didn't tangle or mat as bad and the little girl in the video but it still hurt.

    I remember in middle school it was my straight-hair white friends giving me the most helpful tips to detangle - keeping it loaded with conditioner and combing it wet, using a wide tooth comb, starting from the bottom and not the top.

    It's getting better with sites like this one spreading the curly basics gospel.
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    Who was taping that? And why?
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  • curlyarcacurlyarca Posts: 8,449Registered Users
    That's ridiculous.

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  • curlylew66curlylew66 Posts: 1,685Registered Users
    And then to tell the other child in the room they are next?
    The person video taping and the woman doing this to this child need some serious help.
  • mrspoppersmrspoppers Posts: 7,223Registered Users
    Not only was the brushing bad, but she kept hitting the poor child in the head with the brush. :(
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  • likethegumlikethegum Posts: 494Registered Users
    That was horrible! That poor girl was in so much pain and her mother had no sympathy, she just kept insulting and swearing at her. Some people are just so mean :(
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  • CurlyCurliesCurlyCurlies Posts: 1,641Registered Users
    Huh. I may be ignorant, but why does she keep on brushing it??? It looked brushed out to me...

    That's what I thought. It looked detangled enough for her to start making parts for ponytails, at least.
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  • Rebecca deWinterRebecca deWinter Posts: 2,254Registered Users
    Phoenix wrote: »
    Who was taping that? And why?

    that's what i wondered too. i mean that was terrible enough to see, but who the funk was the scum who was not only allowing it to happen before their eyes without helping the kid, but TAPING it?

    poor child. that is terrible.
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  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users
    This brought me back to my own childhood, sadly. My mother would smack me with the hairbrush when I cried and wouldn't hold still. I remember a first grade teacher reporting my mother after a lice inspection that we had in school because my scalp had so many brush marks. Damn, that video took me straight back.

    But, this woman is taking it to such a further extreme, and I am surprised that some of the Youtube comments are in support of the mother, assuming that the negative comments must not be from black people.

    The attitude, the cursing, ignoring that screaming, and the laughing and comments from the person recording it are all abusive, IMO.
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    This brought me back to my own childhood, sadly. My mother would smack me with the hairbrush when I cried and wouldn't hold still. I remember a first grade teacher reporting my mother after a lice inspection that we had in school because my scalp had so many brush marks. Damn, that video took me straight back.



    I used to get hit on the head with the brush too. My mother would put me in 2 tight braids each morning. She wanted them TIGHT TIGHT TIGHT. She would make me lean away from her so she could get them tighter. I fought against it, because it hurt, so she'd hit me with the brush, which also hurt. Eventually, she cut all my hair off one night in frustration, then took me to the hair dresser the next day to fix it up. I loved my little pixie haircut. It finally didn't hurt.

    My mom never cursed at me though and by the time my hair grew long again, I was old enough to handle it myself.
  • scrillsscrills Posts: 6,700Registered Users
    This brought me back to my own childhood, sadly. My mother would smack me with the hairbrush when I cried and wouldn't hold still. I remember a first grade teacher reporting my mother after a lice inspection that we had in school because my scalp had so many brush marks. Damn, that video took me straight back.

    But, this woman is taking it to such a further extreme, and I am surprised that some of the Youtube comments are in support of the mother, assuming that the negative comments must not be from black people.

    The attitude, the cursing, ignoring that screaming, and the laughing and comments from the person recording it are all abusive, IMO.

    I assumed the exact opposite. In my world, you had to get used to getting your hair brushed. my mom didn't play the tears, screaming or moving around like that. Granted, she wasn't as harsh as this woman, but my mama wasn't having a tended-headed child.

    I think stuff like this happens all the time
  • ResRes Posts: 2,911Registered Users
    scrills wrote: »
    This brought me back to my own childhood, sadly. My mother would smack me with the hairbrush when I cried and wouldn't hold still. I remember a first grade teacher reporting my mother after a lice inspection that we had in school because my scalp had so many brush marks. Damn, that video took me straight back.

    But, this woman is taking it to such a further extreme, and I am surprised that some of the Youtube comments are in support of the mother, assuming that the negative comments must not be from black people.

    The attitude, the cursing, ignoring that screaming, and the laughing and comments from the person recording it are all abusive, IMO.

    I assumed the exact opposite. In my world, you had to get used to getting your hair brushed. my mom didn't play the tears, screaming or moving around like that. Granted, she wasn't as harsh as this woman, but my mama wasn't having a tended-headed child.

    I think stuff like this happens all the time

    I think it happens a lot too. But I still don't think it's right (not saying you think it is or not).

    I feel bad for that little girl. The person video taping is as mean as the mother.
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  • Nappy_curly_crownNappy_curly_crown Posts: 4,162Registered Users
    I was natural my enire childhood (i didn't relax until i went to college) and that in my opinion was abuse plain and simple. I was (and still am) a tenderheaded person. I cryed while getting my hair done (and still do), but my mother also did everything in her power to lessen my suffering. And when she lost patience, she would send me off to a friend, relative, and even her high school students that could braid hair to get it braided so that I wouldn't have to go through that everyday. I was never treated like that all for the sake of getting my hair done.

    It amazes me the number of black folks that think that this is "ok" because it happened to them. IT IS NOT OK. Just because momma did it to you and you turned out ok does not make it right!

    This child is being cursed at, hit, belittled, tossed around like a rag doll, yanked by her arms, thrown on the ground, sat on and then to top it all off...there are other people laughing at her, teasing her, and then recording it? This "mother" doesn't seem to even be concerned that she is hurting her child...she seems to in some sick kinda way enjoy it. Then to top it all off, she keeps telling the child that her hair is nappy, and she's trying to fix it so she will "look like somebody". And we wonder why so many black women have the hair issues that they do.

    I think what really pisses me off...is that obviously, they have internet access...there doesn't seem to be a technology divide here (i mean they recorded this video). And the person that recorded this has youtube access. So you mean to tell me that none of these ignorant mofo's thought to do a search for natural hair videos? There are literally TONS of them on youtube! Hell they could have even used google and found tons of information to eduate themselves on how to make caring for this childs hair less painful.

    But instead, they get thier jollies off by making fun of the pain and tarma of a child. How phucking sick and twisted.
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  • KinkyKeeperKinkyKeeper Posts: 963Registered Users
    Huh. I may be ignorant, but why does she keep on brushing it??? It looked brushed out to me...

    I only watched half of it, and with no sound...thankfully...

    No you aren't ignorant, you would be ignorant if you saw a point to this video or could see some value to what she was doing. TO reiterate what Nappy Curly has said it could be even more confusing if you watched it without sound becuase the amazingly obvious verbal abuse combined with the blatant physical abuse is what makes it come together. This was meant to be abusive, this woman does not like this little girl and WANTS to hurt her.

    Oh and I can talk, please don't believe all kinky hair detangling has to hurt or has to be this bad. My mother had NO idea how to do my natural hair but she never hit me or treated me like this. But once we leqarned the proper technique there was no pain whatsoever and I have a very kinky hair type. Hitting a child is abuse. Cussing a child out is abuse. Telling a child that they are nobody and they have no daddy is abuse. Let's see what specifically in this videos is abuse becuase physical and verbal abuse ran rampant and some people are trying to defend it or can't see it:

    1. (Attempting to) Running a comb from root to tip in kinky/curly hair that is pretty much dry. If you have the technology to upoad a video on youtube.com you know how to look up how to properly detangle kinky/curly hair on the internet.

    2. Ignoring genuine screams of pain. (I don't know how any one can mistake pain for a tantrum. I know some kids act up and I can tell the difference). This child screamed WHEN the comb ran through her head is a good clue (and cried tears the rest) there is a difference. She ain't faking.

    3. Telling a child they are nobody. This is in there (I gotta get rid of these naps to make you somebody).

    4. Telling a child screaming for their daddy that they have no daddy.

    5. Cussing a child out repeatedly.

    6. Pinning a child on the floor and attacking them.

    7. At one point not even making the barest effort to to pretend you were trying to detangle her hair. Insterad letting your true intent and purpose slip through by doing nothing but stabbing her head for a full minute.

    8. Check out background scenery. Granted this takes some intuitive ability and/or experience of abusive situations but I'm sure most people can see it if they try.

    ~There is a boy child of same age whose hair looks well taken care of (defined curls, shiny, long) and at no point is being treated as bad. This woman know how to do hair and treat children. She has a PERSONAL vendetta against the little girl. This theory is supprted by the fact that most of us can see this child has a hair type that naturally curls when wet and would LOOK exactly like the little boys if the woman hadn't combed it out. Nothing wrong with nappy hair (as we know well) but this girls' hair isn't nappy. But at various point she refers to girls' hair as nappy in derogative way and little boy's hair as "curly". She has something against this little girl to create a division, a difference that doesn't exist. I would be willing to bet that when it comes time for the boy's turn this evil woman takes her time, goes gentle and reiterates the whole time (in the little girl's hearing) that he has GOOD hair, he's such a good boy for not being a brat like his sister. I wish I didn't know the mind of people like this but I have met entirely too many mothers or step moms who were pros at pyschologically breaking a certain child down. Picking favorites and the ones they hate and breaking the ones they hate down at every opportunity. I could never see what makes them so hate one of their children and lavish love on the others but it happens.

    ~She has on weave and is darker skinned. So is camera woman (as seen from myspace pics). Little girl is lighter skinned (possibly mixed) and has long hair. Anyone with a knowledge of history of colorism ,etc can see there is something going on here with jealousy.

    ~This one breaks my heart. Look closely (or even not so closely) and you can see there are huge chunks of hair missing at little girls' temples (also note not present on little's boy har who has simliar hair type). This is called traction alopecia and happens becuase of pressure on the hair line. This happens over a LONG period of time. I know becuase I had it from wearing sew in weave for 2 YEARS nonstop. Probably a result of many many "detangling" sessions like this one. Forcing weave on the little girl or pulling her hair back in repeated buns like the one at the very end. Did you see that? I'm surprised I couldn't see the little girls hair lines popping out before our very eyes, that thing was so tight. This more than anything indicated to me this is systematic abuse that has gone on for months/years so the excuses for this woman that every now and then you might lose your temper DON'T hold up.

    ~Several people have said they can see a bruise on one of the girl eyes. This along with past experience tells me this abuse doesn't end at the end of hair detangling time. This kind of abuse is probably 24/7.

    9. The anger and hate in momma's voice increases as she is reminded of the father. She also combs even more roughly. She is taking out anger at child's father on the daughter.

    10. Pulling child up at several points BY her hair.

    11. Taunting little girl throughout with something she wants, holding it out of her reach (I couldn't see what it is) and making fun of her (her pain, her hair, and the fact that you have something she wants) throughout. Now to be fair I'm sure siblings of a like age might do something like this to each other. But what say to me this isn't just all in fun is this is a 17 YEAR OLD (the camera woman) taunting a girl who can't be no more than 4. At some point an age difference goes from "messing around" to abuse and they are way past that line.

    12. Having done something that would make a child of that age scream they hate you. I don't think I even knew the word hate then.

    13. And finally laughing and smiling while the above is ocurring. If you are frustrated you don't smile. And at no point would a good parent smile at ANY of what happened above. This woman is malicious.

    14. Oh yeah filming the whole thing and posting it on youtube.com so others can enjoy it as much as you did.

    Yeah there is always the danger it won't make a difference but then I guess it comes down to the fact that I couldn't live with myself if I DIDN'T report it.
  • cymprenicympreni Posts: 9,609Registered Users
    I hope someone finds her, teases her hair within an inch of it's life, sprays it down with an entire can of 80's style aqua net, then see how tender headed she is. ****ing *****! Ideally, I'd like her to have a weeks worth of bedhead before brushing it out. But the teasing and aqua net will do in a pinch.
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