CurlTalk

Do it yourself - Brazilian, BKT, QOD

cvernickcvernick Posts: 3Registered Users
sorry...had to delete for liability reasons.
Failed to load the poll.
Failed to load the poll.

Comments

  • stragglerstraggler Posts: 31Registered Users
    :thumbright:

    Thanks for the info.

    I didn't vote in the poll because honestly I would not pay for this advice as it is available on the net for free and there was no option for "not pay".

    I don't mean to say the info was not appreciated, rather I personally would not pay for it. I appreciate the first hand experience. Hope that makes sense.
  • audeoaudeo Posts: 42Registered Users
    Yeah, I didn't vote either. I already made up my mind to DIY. I had the Coppola done a year ago and the Brazilien Blowout last month. I love the treatment but I want to experiment with not making it quite so straight or just doing my crown and not my whole head which stylists won't do.

    The process is really simple, and there are several youtube videos to see it from different angles. I've cut my hair for years, mostly because some "stylist" screwed it up and I had to fix it. So this is a piece of cake :tongue1:

    I've also straightened myself for years. Any of the BKTs are less damaging than a straightener.

    I ordered 4 oz of the Coppola treatment from ebay for $40 that came with instructions and clarifying shampoo. I will probably only use half of that.


    I agree that getting it done professionally the first time is important, just to know what to expect. Either way, it is well worth it!!
  • CupcakeCupcake Posts: 68Registered Users
    I am a BKT DIY too! I live in Dallas, TX and the cost to get the treatments are insance. I am a 3c curly with a mild no-lye texturizer/relaxer. I ordered Global Keratin back in April 2009 and did my treatment myself and I love it!!! I can hair straight shiny hair in 98% humidity!!!:thumbright:8)

    Last week I ordered Soft-liss www.softliss.com because you can wash it out the same day. I plan on doing another treatment myself this weekend!!
  • audeoaudeo Posts: 42Registered Users
    Cupcake,

    Please let us know how you like the Soft-liss!! And which type did you decide on??

    It sounds like the Brazilian Blowout, which has a heavy cocoa smell, and is applied to wet hair, blowdried, ironed, rinsed and conditioned.

    I'm glad to hear DIY is working for you! Keep us informed of your results.
  • stragglerstraggler Posts: 31Registered Users
    Cupcake wrote: »
    I am a BKT DIY too! I live in Dallas, TX and the cost to get the treatments are insance. I am a 3c curly with a mild no-lye texturizer/relaxer. I ordered Global Keratin back in April 2009 and did my treatment myself and I love it!!! I can hair straight shiny hair in 98% humidity!!!:thumbright:8)

    Last week I ordered Soft-liss www.softliss.com because you can wash it out the same day. I plan on doing another treatment myself this weekend!!

    Please let us know how it turns out! Did you buy a 450 degree flat iron for the Global Keratin Treatment?
  • CupcakeCupcake Posts: 68Registered Users
    audeo wrote: »
    Cupcake,

    Please let us know how you like the Soft-liss!! And which type did you decide on??

    It sounds like the Brazilian Blowout, which has a heavy cocoa smell, and is applied to wet hair, blowdried, ironed, rinsed and conditioned.

    I'm glad to hear DIY is working for you! Keep us informed of your results.

    I ordered the Chocolate Soft-liss. 8) The Brazilian Blowout and the Soft-liss are from the same manufacturer. So you apply it the same way you mentioned. I think it's great that you can order different sizes and the 8oz treatment, plus the clarifying shampoo and conditioner is only $96.00!:thumbright: I'll have enough to last the rest of this year.

    I plan on doing my hair tomorrow. I will post pictures!
  • CupcakeCupcake Posts: 68Registered Users
    straggler wrote: »
    Cupcake wrote: »
    I am a BKT DIY too! I live in Dallas, TX and the cost to get the treatments are insance. I am a 3c curly with a mild no-lye texturizer/relaxer. I ordered Global Keratin back in April 2009 and did my treatment myself and I love it!!! I can hair straight shiny hair in 98% humidity!!!:thumbright:8)

    Last week I ordered Soft-liss www.softliss.com because you can wash it out the same day. I plan on doing another treatment myself this weekend!!

    Please let us know how it turns out! Did you buy a 450 degree flat iron for the Global Keratin Treatment?

    I bought a Babyliss Iron from Ebay but I don't use 450 degrees because my hair fell out from that a few years ago. I used 410-420 and flatironed each section 3-5 times.
  • stragglerstraggler Posts: 31Registered Users
    Cupcake wrote: »
    straggler wrote: »
    Cupcake wrote: »
    I am a BKT DIY too! I live in Dallas, TX and the cost to get the treatments are insance. I am a 3c curly with a mild no-lye texturizer/relaxer. I ordered Global Keratin back in April 2009 and did my treatment myself and I love it!!! I can hair straight shiny hair in 98% humidity!!!:thumbright:8)

    Last week I ordered Soft-liss www.softliss.com because you can wash it out the same day. I plan on doing another treatment myself this weekend!!

    Please let us know how it turns out! Did you buy a 450 degree flat iron for the Global Keratin Treatment?

    I bought a Babyliss Iron from Ebay but I don't use 450 degrees because my hair fell out from that a few years ago. I used 410-420 and flatironed each section 3-5 times.

    Thanks!
    This may be a dumb question but how do you know the heat setting? My GHD only has an on/off button, no temperature selection. I wonder if the website would list the temperature?
  • CupcakeCupcake Posts: 68Registered Users
    straggler wrote: »
    Cupcake wrote: »
    straggler wrote: »

    Please let us know how it turns out! Did you buy a 450 degree flat iron for the Global Keratin Treatment?

    I bought a Babyliss Iron from Ebay but I don't use 450 degrees because my hair fell out from that a few years ago. I used 410-420 and flatironed each section 3-5 times.

    Thanks!
    This may be a dumb question but how do you know the heat setting? My GHD only has an on/off button, no temperature selection. I wonder if the website would list the temperature?

    It's not a dumb question! My Chi Ultra only has an on/off button. My Babyliss has a dial with different settings. On the box it tells you what degree the numbers represent. I think it like 1-20. :thumbright:
  • cvernickcvernick Posts: 3Registered Users
    I looked at the softliss products, I'd be skeptical of any product for curly hair that contains lots of silicon product. It gives a nice effect at first but doesn't improve the hair. It can actually make it drier after the effects wear off. I have not tried this product, but always steer clear of silicon (or other chemicals that are variations on silicon, like di-methicon and so forth). Check out Ouidad's site for more infor on this subject, made a believer out of me.
  • audeoaudeo Posts: 42Registered Users
    cvernick wrote: »
    I looked at the softliss products, I'd be skeptical of any product for curly hair that contains lots of silicon product. It gives a nice effect at first but doesn't improve the hair. It can actually make it drier after the effects wear off. I have not tried this product, but always steer clear of silicon (or other chemicals that are variations on silicon, like di-methicon and so forth). Check out Ouidad's site for more infor on this subject, made a believer out of me.

    Speaking for myself, my hair loves cones. I have had more positive experiences with the keratin treatments than anything I've ever tried. When I consider the lye and no-lye straighteners I've used, cones are not a bad alternative. My hair looks and feels healthier than it did 3 years ago when it was completely virgin, natural and a frizzy mess. Not even the goddesses of Ouidad or CG could tame it. I'm a believer in cones and keratin.
  • Smoothchik2000Smoothchik2000 Posts: 10Registered Users
    I just wanted to add that I just did my first DIY BKT and I am absolutely thrilled with the results!!!

    Now my hair is frizz free, feels and looks amazing, and only retains the softest of waves when air dried. The best part is that when straightened with an iron or blow-drier, it actually STAYS STRAIGHT & doesnt curl back up the miniute my hair its the humid FL air!!!!!!

    I ordered 5oz of QOD Max off of Ebay and I had my friend help me the other night with the ironing process! I washed w/ a sodium free clairfying shampoo, applied the keratin and blow-dried as per the instructions, sealed it with a 450 degree flat iron, and refrained from washing, wetting, or pulling back the hair in any way for 3.5 days. I also re-flat ironed my hair each day, as well as any time It got mildly damp or kinked from sleeping or being outside.

    I live in Florida, so frizz has been the bane of my existance ever since I moved here 4 years ago...Don't get me wrong, I do like my curls, but there are many hair styles I cannot wear with curly locks. I followed a pretty much strict CG hair routine for the past year until just recently, when out of boredom I began straightening my hair again...

    I decided I wanted something more permanant, so at first I had looked into Japanese Hair Straightening. However, a while back I had tried an at home "Curl Relaxer" from Sally Beauty Supply that didnt really work all that well and really fried my hair, so I was very leery of trying another chemical straightening process (especially b/c I also dye my hair). I also found the price of JHS to be very prohibitive ($300 and up around me) and I dont like the line of demarcation you get when the new, curly growth comes in with JHS.

    After doing my research, I decided BKT was the best option for several reasons: Its actualy benificial for your hair - being a protective protein treatment rather than a drying chemical service. I also like the fact that it washes out gradually, so there is no line of demarcation, and I am not forced to cut off the treated hair when I no longer want it straight. Lastly, the relatively inexpensive price was a big factor - and the simplicity of the proccess totally convinced me that this could be an easy DIY project.

    Well, at any rate, to everyone elso out there, I highly recomend BKT! Good luck to everyone, and if you have any questions, feel free to shoot me a msg!
    ...an ex CG 3a/3b, who is returning to CG after a 2 yr BKT break... :iconbiggrin:

    My latest faves:

    CO-WASH: Suave Coconut, DevaCurl Low-Poo
    LEAVE-INS: Suave Coconut & honey (50/50), pure unrefined shea butter
    CURL ENHANCERS/CREMES: Bioterra Curl Creme, L'oreal Out Of Bed
    GELS: Aura/Naturelle Hypoallergenic Gel, Garnier Fructis Curl Shaping Spray Gel
    WKLY DT: Biotresse Hydrating Conditioning Balm w/ honey and EVOO
    CLARIFYING: ACV or Baking Soda Rinse
  • Hakim NuraldinHakim Nuraldin Posts: 1,467Registered Users
    LOL!! I thought this thread was about a Brazilian. You know a Brazilian. Like the waxing of your nether regions. I was gonna say no way in hell, I tried that before and it hurt like hell. The next time I do a Brazilian at my house, his name better be Paolo or something like that.
  • PrettyPorcupinePrettyPorcupine Posts: 258Registered Users
    LOL Hakim that is funny!

    I'd like more info on where/how you all are getting the products for do-it-yourself BTK...! Please share!! I'm a hair DIY-er from waaaay back and am curious to try it.

    Also, never heard of Soft-Liss and must learn more!!

    I'm full of insatiable curiosity!! :tongue5::tongue5::tongue5:
    Modified CG. You'll pry my 'cones from my cold dead fingers! Mixed waves, coarse, below shoulder length, dark brown. I hate my hair :evil: but I'm trying to learn to accept it.

    Gels: LA Looks Wet Look Styling Gel, Garnier Fructis Wet Shine Gel. Condish: Alberto V05 Free Me Fresia, Tresemme' Flawless Curls, LVPNG, Neutrogena Triple Moisture. Shampoo: Tresemme' Flawless Curls. Silicone Serum: Whatever is on sale, but I don't leave home without it.
  • PrettyPorcupinePrettyPorcupine Posts: 258Registered Users
    cvernik, there's actually research now showing that silicone can, in fact, temporarily repair hair by filling in holes in the cortex of damaged hair. Far from being bad for you, silicone is a protectant.

    The notion that it dries your hair is one of those "hairdresser urban myths." Just like "Salon brands have better quality ingredients than drugstore brands," and "Cutting your hair will help it grow faster." :tongue5:
    Modified CG. You'll pry my 'cones from my cold dead fingers! Mixed waves, coarse, below shoulder length, dark brown. I hate my hair :evil: but I'm trying to learn to accept it.

    Gels: LA Looks Wet Look Styling Gel, Garnier Fructis Wet Shine Gel. Condish: Alberto V05 Free Me Fresia, Tresemme' Flawless Curls, LVPNG, Neutrogena Triple Moisture. Shampoo: Tresemme' Flawless Curls. Silicone Serum: Whatever is on sale, but I don't leave home without it.
  • PetalPetal Posts: 219Registered Users
    I'm crazy curious about this, but I'm concerned with the formaldehyde.

    Are any of these products really safe?
    3A-3B mix, medium-thick, prone to splitting. Products: Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose Conditioner, Jojoba oil, Free me freesia conditioner to detangle. Trying to experiment with protein DTs a few times a month.
  • fab79fab79 Posts: 1Registered Users
    Hey, I got my BKT done last week and ready to wash my hair. I didn't buy the recommend Shampoo and Conditioner because they were just a little bit to pricey for me, now I'm looking for a shampoo n conditioner which needs to be Sodium chloride n sulfate free....any suggestions ?
  • AphroDivaAphroDiva Posts: 183Registered Users
    fab79 wrote: »
    Hey, I got my BKT done last week and ready to wash my hair. I didn't buy the recommend Shampoo and Conditioner because they were just a little bit to pricey for me, now I'm looking for a shampoo n conditioner which needs to be Sodium chloride n sulfate free....any suggestions ?

    Yes! Go to your nearest Organic Store/Natural Health Store and you will find an amazing variety of Shampoos and Conditioners Sulfate and Sodium free. I currently switch to the Jason's brand Shampoo it's more Gentle than the Burt's Bee Shampoo I was using.
  • terrapinsterrapins Posts: 44Registered Users
    Hello,

    Does anyone know if the Coppola Treatment is considered CG or categorized as "cones"? I am considering getting it done and hope to be able to learn to do it myself later. Any thoughts on Coppola and hair health? My hair is 3b/c, shoulder length, fine, friz, poofy mess.

    Terrapins:toothy10:
  • rondia7rondia7 Posts: 2Registered Users
    I had the Coppola Treatment (Feb 10) and a Marcia Teixeira in Oct 09; which was my 1st treatment. I have very kinky-curly hair; 4b, very tightly coiled hair and had cut out all my relaxer in 2007 and got another one in Aug '08. Although I did wear micros for over a year, I had great success with both BKTs. The 1st one did wonders but the 2nd one was jackpot. I just purchased the QOD from eBay last month and I'm very excited to DIY this time. The 1st treatment was over $300 and it didnt look like it took very well and I couldnt wait to shampoo my hair and try it myself; which did well. The 2nd treatment I had done at Ulta - TX and it was sale for $185. Awesome experience. I even have a lil highlights. I think you will enjoy this experience even if you have a relaxer. Very conditioning. I have used the maxiglide, the herstyler and the Babybliss flat irons.
  • grantswansongrantswanson Posts: 39Registered Users
    i'm really excited. i had a free consultation at a high end salon and she told me step by step what the coppola keratin treatment entails. sneaky me thought lemme just do it myself if it's available and cheaper. basically strip the hair, dry completely, apply 1 ounce to first section like color, see how it absorbs and depending on that add more/ keep it, blow dry again thoroughly, flat iron small sections and leave in for a 3 days.


    smoothgirl did you like the qod max??
    Naturally soft but dull, mixed porosity, doesn't like heavy protein, but does like heavy oil and butters.

    Currently only use a sudsy shampoo 3x a week
    Homemade oil blend
    Kevin murphy motion lotion (need something else)
  • DimePiece17DimePiece17 Posts: 521Registered Users
    That sounds about right. Depending on your texture and how straight you want your hair to come out, you may want to leave it on your hair longer and use more than one ounce. I did my coppolla at home myself. I will never get this treatment done at a salon again. It's too easy! Make sure you do it near an open window with the fan on, though. the coppolla fumes aren't too bad, but still..my throat and eyes were burning. I also don't use gloves when I put it on, I want to feel that the product is on my hair, but that's just me!
    Beauty Tips for the Budgetista?
    Check me out on Youtube, Tumblr, FB, and Twitter!
    DimepieceonaDime-FB PAGE, Youtube Channel, and Tumblr
    Dimefabulous-Twitter name
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fdimepieceonadime.tumblr.com%2F" class="Popup
  • grantswansongrantswanson Posts: 39Registered Users
    Hairguru17 wrote: »
    That sounds about right. Depending on your texture and how straight you want your hair to come out, you may want to leave it on your hair longer and use more than one ounce. I did my coppolla at home myself. I will never get this treatment done at a salon again. It's too easy! Make sure you do it near an open window with the fan on, though. the coppolla fumes aren't too bad, but still..my throat and eyes were burning. I also don't use gloves when I put it on, I want to feel that the product is on my hair, but that's just me!

    hm! good tip. it didnt stain or burn your hands in any way? this does seem to easy my heart is RACING EVERYONES RAVING AND I CANT WAIT :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD god i am such a frikkin loser.
    Naturally soft but dull, mixed porosity, doesn't like heavy protein, but does like heavy oil and butters.

    Currently only use a sudsy shampoo 3x a week
    Homemade oil blend
    Kevin murphy motion lotion (need something else)