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Is it possible to remove or fade old acne scars with retin a?

JerseyCurlJerseyCurl Posts: 945Registered Users
I have some old acne scarring on my cheeks from when I was a teenager and stupidly picked at them with my fingernails. The scarring in not severe by any means but it sort of looks like orange peel, if that helps. I guess I would classify it as mild to moderate.

I finally have the acne under control with a good cleanser and a good exfoliator. I use PSF Castile Cleanser and a Bha product and my skin clear but not as smooth as I would like because of the old acne scarring.

So, I would like to know if any skin care experts know if retin a can help with either removing or at least fading old acne scars. I read online that retin a and copper peptides both help in fading these kind of scars. Is this true? If yes, what kind of a result can I expect?

Any help would greatly be appricated. Thanks!:thumbup:
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    It depends on the type of scarring. Pitting and "boxcar" types of acne scarring are very difficult to get rid of. Retin-A and Copper Peptides work great together, and, over time, can improve scarring and the overall texture of the skin, but don't expect miracles if you've got significant missing collegen.

    I've been using Retin-A and Super CP Serum (from DianaYvonne.com) together for about 4 years and I've seen significant improvement in my skin texture, but I didn't have true acne scarring...just some rough texture and a lot of PIH (post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation). It took a while, but all of that is gone now, and my skin just gets better and better, year after year.

    There are a lot of newer laser techniques that can improve scarring, so you might want to look into it for the pitting and boxcar types.
  • JerseyCurlJerseyCurl Posts: 945Registered Users
    It depends on the type of scarring. Pitting and "boxcar" types of acne scarring are very difficult to get rid of. Retin-A and Copper Peptides work great together, and, over time, can improve scarring and the overall texture of the skin, but don't expect miracles if you've got significant missing collegen.

    I've been using Retin-A and Super CP Serum (from DianaYvonne.com) together for about 4 years and I've seen significant improvement in my skin texture, but I didn't have true acne scarring...just some rough texture and a lot of PIH (post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation). It took a while, but all of that is gone now, and my skin just gets better and better, year after year.

    There are a lot of newer laser techniques that can improve scarring, so you might want to look into it for the pitting and boxcar types.

    What do you mean by boxcar type scarring? My scarring is similar to the skin on an orange if that makes sense. It is mild and you if you were to rub my face with your hands you would not be able to feel it because the texture or feel of my skin is smooth but unfortunately you can see it. So, basically the scarring can't be felt with touch but can be seen.

    So, do you think this type of scarring can be helped with retin a and copper peptides? Lasers and such would be my last resort I want to try other things first. :hello2:
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    Boxcar scars are fairly close to chickenpox scars. This is a pretty good representation of various acne scar types:

    acnescars.jpg

    Sounds like you have enlarged pores or shallow pits. I have enlarged pores...these are pores that were damaged from years of acne and oily skin and never fully retracted to their former shape...and I have noticed some improvement in them from Retin-A/CP, but not as much as I would like. I just try to keep them clean with my Clarisonic and use a primer under my makeup so my foundation doesn't collect in all the little pores. I have many chicken pox scars, which have not improved one little bit from Retin-A/CP...but they don't bother me, so I don't care. It really only helped my skin texture (which it did help a LOT), not my pores, so I guess the answer to your question is no, you probably can't expect significant scar improvement from Retin-A/CP.
  • JerseyCurlJerseyCurl Posts: 945Registered Users
    Boxcar scars are fairly close to chickenpox scars. This is a pretty good representation of various acne scar types:

    acnescars.jpg

    Sounds like you have enlarged pores or shallow pits. I have enlarged pores...these are pores that were damaged from years of acne and oily skin and never fully retracted to their former shape...and I have noticed some improvement in them from Retin-A/CP, but not as much as I would like. I just try to keep them clean with my Clarisonic and use a primer under my makeup so my foundation doesn't collect in all the little pores. I have many chicken pox scars, which have not improved one little bit from Retin-A/CP...but they don't bother me, so I don't care. It really only helped my skin texture (which it did help a LOT), not my pores, so I guess the answer to your question is no, you probably can't expect significant scar improvement from Retin-A/CP.

    Wow, thanks for the info I have never seen that demo. I went on the link and according to the description I am thinking more like enlarged pores. The site recommended fraxel, would you agree with this? :hello2:
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    JerseyCurl wrote: »

    Wow, thanks for the info I have never seen that demo. I went on the link and according to the description I am thinking more like enlarged pores. The site recommended fraxel, would you agree with this? :hello2:


    I have looked into laser treatment for my pores in the past, and results seem to be a mixed bag. Some people get great results, some not-so-great. The milder lasers like fraxel don't seem to do horrible damage to people...they just sometimes don't give the desired improvement. I'd personally like to take a chance and do it, but I don't have the funds for it right now. If/when I get closer to doing it, I'll research it all again. Laser technology is changing so fast, and improving so much, that what I research today could be totally obsolete by next year.
  • 2poodles2poodles Posts: 2,480Registered Users
    I was on accutane for acne years ago and IMO it helped a lot to shrink my pore size....
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    At first I thought you meant scars= hyperpigmentation, but it really sounds like you mean indentations and such. I'm not optimistic that retin-a will help with that. It does smooth your skin out but probably not enough.
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  • kellygreen49kellygreen49 Posts: 625Registered Users
    I heard Vitamin E Oil does really well for fading acne scars. You could give it a try. My sister buys it from GMC.
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  • luvmylocsluvmylocs Posts: 7,578Registered Users
    thanks for that link & pic rcw, it's informative.

    jerseycurl have you looked into peels? right now i'm using the 55% lactic acid peel through makeup artists choice chemical peels right now they are having a sale 20% off until june 2nd. remember stronger is not better. read about each of the peels. i have pores, blemishes and extra oily skin and the lactic acid peel has been immensely helpful for my face in just the last 3 weeks that i've been diligently doing it twice a week for ONLY 3 mins.
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  • Scar GelScar Gel Posts: 1Registered Users
    You may want to try a dose of Vit C and Vit D. It's okay to take in so much vit C because you will just release it through urine when you got overdosed. Vit D is of course coming from the SUn. These two vitamins are essential because it will lighten scars and even remove the scars in time. VIt E is always a good source of rejuvenating the skin. So better have those three present in your diet.

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