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How do you feel about Abortion?

RheannaRheanna Posts: 2,614Registered Users
While we're on the topic of all sorts of political and moral things, lets take a little poll to see how you feel about abortion...

Feel free to make comments. Please try and be respectful and not attack people, at least not too much :wink:

Debate is welcome, lets say, but all out fighting . . . try to keep that to a bare minimum!
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  • internetchickinternetchick Posts: 6,191Registered Users
    I am pro-choice.
  • M2LRM2LR Posts: 8,630Registered Users
    WOO HOO!

    Another potential 20 pager!!!
    :rambo:
  • RheannaRheanna Posts: 2,614Registered Users
    Thanks for sharing! I think it would be *awesome* if we could all discuss this without it breaking into freakin' WWIII in here!!

    Anyone else?
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  • LisaAnnLisaAnn Posts: 436Registered Users
    These always go stunningly well.
  • RheannaRheanna Posts: 2,614Registered Users
    M2LR & Co. wrote:
    WOO HOO!

    Another potential 20 pager!!!

    It'll keep ya busy! lol
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  • quickcurlquickcurl Posts: 1,310Registered Users
    I'm pro-choice.
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  • RheannaRheanna Posts: 2,614Registered Users
    Lets try to keep from fighting here. Just have one little question...

    I've heard it said that the real debate is not about the actual abortion, but about when life begins. Do you agree? If so, how does that impact your feelings about abortion?
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  • LisaAnnLisaAnn Posts: 436Registered Users
    See it all starts out pretty, but it boils down to the pro are not going to change the anti's mind and the anti's are not going to change the pro's mind. And then someone will wander on over with the religion chip on the shoulder and start calling people butchers and threatening to punch people in the face.

    I give you an A for effort though!
  • MarMar Posts: 3,003Registered Users
    I am pro life,but I won't debate the abortion issue,and you won't find me judging.
    "what's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?"



    "If you judge people,you have no time to love them"
    -Mother Theresa
  • MarMar Posts: 3,003Registered Users
    dp-someone needs to delete these-I can't
    "what's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?"



    "If you judge people,you have no time to love them"
    -Mother Theresa
  • MarMar Posts: 3,003Registered Users
    dp-damned board
    "what's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?"



    "If you judge people,you have no time to love them"
    -Mother Theresa
  • MarMar Posts: 3,003Registered Users
    dp
    "what's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?"



    "If you judge people,you have no time to love them"
    -Mother Theresa
  • RheannaRheanna Posts: 2,614Registered Users
    Thanks for sharing... and sharing... and sharing... and sharing! LOL. This site is screwy again tonight I see!
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  • big hairbig hair Posts: 70Registered Users
    Here we go again! :roll:
    Born Naturally Red!! "that's my story and I'm sticken' to it".
  • FreeCurlsFreeCurls Posts: 4,408Registered Users
    what's there to discuss? This is just one of those issues that skips discussion and jumps right to hurt feelings, accusations and defensiveness.
    [FONT=&quot]Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce & FreeCurls[/FONT]


  • SigiSigi Posts: 2,379Registered Users
    Rheanna, it might be difficult to keep this just straight Q & A. If you do a naturallycurly search on the abortion topic you will find that it's hard to keep from getting heated.

    In an answer to your question. I am pro-choice. It's a woman's right to decide. I don't care where "life" technically begins whether at implantion or heartbeat or wherever. It's up to the woman on an individual basis.
  • RheannaRheanna Posts: 2,614Registered Users
    Why can't it be discussed? My question is a good one in my opinion. I want to know what people think about the whole when did life begin issue... "They" say that's the REAL issue here, as someone who believes life begins at birth doesn't see abortion as wrong, and someone who believes a fetus is a living human from the get-go would obviously find abortion to be no different than killing a newborn, or me for instance.

    I think that's a good topic. Why can't it stay calm ?
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  • LisaAnnLisaAnn Posts: 436Registered Users
    Because it never has in the past. Abortion is too personal an issue with strong feelings on both sides. This is NC. no hot button topic can remain calm here, it's just the nature of the board.
  • RheannaRheanna Posts: 2,614Registered Users
    Now I would disagree that it is up to the woman on an individual basis as far as where life begins... If life begins at "x" point, would that not mean terminating life after said "x" point would be murder?

    I'm not saying your views are wrong, although they are obviously different from mine. I'm just saying... if it's a life, then ending it is a murder. That's just logic right? So I just assumed that most abortion supporters feel that life begins either at a certain point the pregnancy, i.e. heartbeat, movement, whatever OR at birth.

    JMO.
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  • MarMar Posts: 3,003Registered Users
    LisaAnn wrote:
    Because it never has in the past. Abortion is too personal an issue with strong feelings on both sides. This is NC. no hot button topic can remain calm here, it's just the nature of the board.


    word.
    "what's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?"



    "If you judge people,you have no time to love them"
    -Mother Theresa
  • jazzijenni81jazzijenni81 Posts: 529Registered Users
    I'm all for abortion as long as it isn't used as a means of birth control. I think if a mistake happens, its your right to handle it...but if the mistake is made repeatedly, then you're just irresponsible and YOU should be aborted.
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  • SigiSigi Posts: 2,379Registered Users
    Rheanna83 wrote:
    Now I would disagree that it is up to the woman on an individual basis as far as where life begins... If life begins at "x" point, would that not mean terminating life after said "x" point would be murder?

    I'm not saying your views are wrong, although they are obviously different from mine. I'm just saying... if it's a life, then ending it is a murder. That's just logic right? So I just assumed that most abortion supporters feel that life begins either at a certain point the pregnancy, i.e. heartbeat, movement, whatever OR at birth.

    JMO.

    I guess it's all a matter of perspective then, isn't it?
  • RheannaRheanna Posts: 2,614Registered Users
    Yes, Sigi. That's my entire point... It's really not about what an abortion is, it's about whether or not it's a life. And I guess those on the fence, that's the question to decide/ask yourself.. Is it equal to a life, or is it not yet really "anything".. I don't know how to describe that?

    If you belief a fetus is a life from the get-go, then you can't really find abortion to be okay, but otherwise, it's almost like a non-issue.

    Does that make any sense at all?
    (probably not.. lol)
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  • SigiSigi Posts: 2,379Registered Users
    Well, the way I see it is that people will have abortions or not have them based on their beliefs. Therefore, it's a case by case thing, based on individual beliefs.
  • MarMar Posts: 3,003Registered Users
    I was completely pro-choice before I had my 1st son....no way could I be now
    "what's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?"



    "If you judge people,you have no time to love them"
    -Mother Theresa
  • RheannaRheanna Posts: 2,614Registered Users
    True Sigi.. That makes sense. But besides beliefs, what would happen if they came out and definitely proved that life began at a certain stage... Do you think that would affect anything?

    I mean, you can believe that it's wrong to kill your next door neighbor, and it is. But if you don't believe it's wrong, does that mean it's okay and should be legal? Of course not, so to me the whole when life begins is important, but it can't be purely beliefs or else people could do anything and say they didn't "believe" it was wrong... so it makes it okay.

    Just speculation here.. I'm not saying that is the case. I'm simply saying what if they said, no life doesn't begin until birth or yes, life begins at conception - what impact would that have? I guess it depends on what you define life as too..

    It's complicated. I'm just curious as to how people feel and what makes them feel that way too?
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  • SigiSigi Posts: 2,379Registered Users
    I can't answer that question Rheanna. I will never and have never had an abortion, so it doesn't really effect me. It's an individual's choice that they will have to live with. If she believes that life begns at conception and she decides to abort, then that she will have to live with her choice. It really is just an individual's perception that will be the basis for her decision on whether or not to abort.
  • RheannaRheanna Posts: 2,614Registered Users
    Sigi wrote:
    I can't answer that question Rheanna. I will never and have never had an abortion, so it doesn't really effect me. It's an individual's choice that they will have to live with. If she believes that life begns at conception and she decides to abort, then that she will have to live with her choice. It really is just an individual's perception that will be the basis for her decision on whether or not to abort.

    Makes sense. Good points. . .
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  • MeganMegan Posts: 335Registered Users
    This is a really hard question. I believe that life begins at conception. I also believe that we all make choices about having sex with/without birth control. You can't expect to have unprotected sex and not get pregnant.....that's what our bodies are meant to do. I understand some people have gotten pregnant on birthcontrol too....but a lot of people don't take it right. If you can't accept the consequences of sex (babies) then 1) you shouldn't be having it or 2) make sure you are protected/fixed. I wouldn't consider having an abortion, but I wouldn't hold it against anyone who chose to. It is YOUR body...and your choice.....so maybe for me I'm prolife, but for everyone else prochoice? I think it IS ridiculous that some women use abortion as a form of birthcontrol.

    When it comes to rape/incest I'm on the fence. I don't think I could carry a child that was part mine & part someone I didn't even know.....if I did have it.....what if the child found out he/she was the result of a rape? Imagine what that would do to them..Hmm...there are so many issues I just don't know. Personally, I can just say that I couldn't have an abortion because I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. I've never really taken the time to THINK about abortion. I guess that's why my thoughts are all jumbled.
  • poisonivypoisonivy Posts: 1,551Registered Users
    Everybody on here knows I am completely pro-life, from conception until natural death. Nobody can tell me that this baby kicking the crap out of me all the time isn't alive!
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