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Best organic shampoo/conditioner?

brazilianbarbiebrazilianbarbie Posts: 6Registered Users
I have gone through TONS of shampoos and conditioners. Heard great things about Pantene Pro V hydrating curls...but it made my hair feel extremely dry. Spent tons of money on all different shampoos/conditoners but they still gave that same dry effect. I want a shampoo/conditoner that has a nice natural smell and nice ingredients. One that has slip (like the youtube girls say lol)

Any suggestions? and preferably one that is easily accessible

thanks.
Recently becoming a product junkie. Trying everything to tame my Brazilian/Ukrainian hair.
*Current loves - Mixed Chicks Leave in, Giovanni direct leave in & Moroccan oil intense curl cream
:angel1:
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  • MarllonMarllon Posts: 104Registered Users
    You need to stop using sulfates, because that's what's inside Pantene shampoos, which are a death sentence to curls. Sulfates are harsh surfactants that you can even find in laundry detergents, they cleanse your hair, but they also strip it from any moisture, consequently drying out your hair.

    I read from Kathymack's review that the Komaza Califia Care line carry a fabulous shampoo and conditioner. [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Gentle-Lather-Shampoo-p-363.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-gentle-lather-shampoo]Jessicurl Gentle Lather Shampoo[/buylink] and [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Too-Shea-Extra-Moisturizing-Conditioner-p-105.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-too-shea-extra-moisturizing-conditioner]Jessicurl Too Shea! Extra Moisturizing Conditioner[/buylink] also receive rave reviews.

    Have you begun co-washing? It's a method of washing curly hair by scrubbing and massaging conditioner onto your scalp like you would with a shampoo. I haven't shampooed since I began co-washing when I turned CG seven weeks ago, and my hair is a lot better because of it. My hair doesn't get dirty because I stay away from ingredients such as mineral oil, petrolatum/petroleum, and water-insoluble silicones.
    3a/3b
    Unsure about density
    Confused about porosity

    Co-wash/condition: Alberto VO5 Moisture Milks

    Leave-in: Giovanni Direct Leave-in Conditioner

    Styling product: Clairol Herbal Essences Totally Twisted Curl-Boosting Mousse
  • Jess the MessJess the Mess Posts: 5,844Registered Users
    The Giovanni line of products is organic and really good. You can get it at Target or the drugstore in the natural aisle.
    High Priestess JessMess, follower of the Goddess of the Coiling Way and Confiscator of Concoctions in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Organic soap bars are a really gentle cleanser. Much gentler than low poo.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Kinky RhonnieKinky Rhonnie Posts: 1,166Registered Users
    I recommend Aubrey Organics Conditioners from Vitamin Shoppe, Whole Foods, or online.

    For shampoo, I like [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Blended-Beauty-Soy-Cream-Shampoo-p-371.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=blended-beauty-soy-cream-shampoo]Blended Beauty Soy Cream Shampoo[/buylink].
  • dailywavydailywavy Posts: 249Registered Users
    I really like the one in my siggy, but i jsut found out it does have a little bit of dimethicone, but it is low on the label. hummm.... i will have to try giovanii's or shampoo bars next time.
    2b, 2c / f / ii / medium-high porosity
    Vo5-never again, i now can plop!
    CG since may 09, and hubby LOVES the new wavy 'tude!
    :thumbleft:
    products: CV SB, burt's bees more moisture conditioner, co-wash suave naturals coconut condish. FSG, shea hair butter, hair refresher
  • Auntie BubbsAuntie Bubbs Posts: 1,068Registered Users
    I thought Giovanni's leave in dried out my hair (3b, already pretty dry). Anyone else experience this? I'm afraid to dry anything else of their's.
    What about Burt's Bees? Any thoughts on their products?
    That's me with FSG as my styler!!

    3b. fine & thick, coarse, dry, medium porosity. Sucks up product and loves ACVs! FSG is my HG!

    Currently using:
    Low Poo: TJ's Refresh No Poo: CoWash w/VO-5; Sonoma Soap Company sulfate-free poo
    RO: Yes to Cuc; SSC Lavender Condish; Sally GVP LI: Donna Marie Miracle D&C
    Style: FSG w/Aussie Instant Freeze & CIAB
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I thought Giovanni's leave in dried out my hair (3b, already pretty dry). Anyone else experience this? I'm afraid to dry anything else of their's.
    What about Burt's Bees? Any thoughts on their products?

    The Giovanni LI has protein. As your hair is coarse, it probably doesn't like too much protein.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    NOT Burt's Bees IMO - I use Giovanni Tea Tree shampoo all the time and don't find it drying, even though it's maybe their most clarifying formula, but Burt's Bees made mine feel stripped and awful.

    I also sometimes use Theraneem shampoo, and it's very gentle. It just makes my hair a little too soft to use all the time.

    If I didn't need the tea tree or neem oil for my scalp, I'd probably usually use Terax Collagene most of the time - it's very gentle. Pricey, although it takes little and lasts me a long time, and I don't know of anywhere you can buy it locally. I got it from drugstore.com/beauty.com. based on recommendations/reviews on makeupalley.com. As you can tell by the name, it has protein, but I think they have other formulations that don't.

    Alternatively, I might try harder to find a 'poo bar that I really like.

    Off topic, Auntie Bubbs, how do you use Manipulator? On wet or dry hair? Just curious since you say it's your HG . . . .


    ETA: Oops, I forgot this is supposed to be about organic shampoos - I don't think Terax is, although it has a lot of natural ingredients and is better than most commercial 'poos.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • Auntie BubbsAuntie Bubbs Posts: 1,068Registered Users
    Kathy, that's probably it. I was at Lassen's Health Food store the other day and asked the girl which shampoos and condishes were protein free and she did not know :( I went with Aubrey Organics HR over Burt's Bees. Still too early to tell but I like the AOHR so far.

    Nett, I love manipulator. I use it when my hair is about 80% dry. I rub a bit between my hands and scrunch it evenly, and lightly, up into my curls. It helps to set the definition.

    I usually carry a jar in my purse. For some reason, I forgot it when i went to get a hair cut Sat. I have a Deva stylist I go to who is pretty good. Anyway, my hair looked gorgeous, of course ;) after she was done with it. I wanted to set the curls w/manipulator but didn't have it. My hair held all day very nicely, and I got decent 2nd day hair. I am on 3rd day right now and it's not great - too frizzy. But it's not awful. I tied it back with a ribbon and it looks ok. I never get 3rd day curls anyway!
    But I found it interesting that I (well, she) got such good curl formation without the manipulator. I may experiment with that. I've used manipulator for like 10 years. :D
    That's me with FSG as my styler!!

    3b. fine & thick, coarse, dry, medium porosity. Sucks up product and loves ACVs! FSG is my HG!

    Currently using:
    Low Poo: TJ's Refresh No Poo: CoWash w/VO-5; Sonoma Soap Company sulfate-free poo
    RO: Yes to Cuc; SSC Lavender Condish; Sally GVP LI: Donna Marie Miracle D&C
    Style: FSG w/Aussie Instant Freeze & CIAB
  • LadyRaeLadyRae Posts: 160Registered Users
    The best thing I've tried that I can get locally is Giovanni Smooth as Silk Condish. I love love LOOOOOOOVe it! Especially after I add some melted shea butter and water it down. But it's great by itself too! The Smooth as Silk shampoo has a silicone in it. So I don't use it... *wasted money... :angry3:* But my hair has been a lot better off since I've stopped using shampoo anyway
    CoMpLeTeLy NaPpTuRaL SiNcE 7/21/09:headbang:

    :scratch:Still figuring things out...Help Wanted

    Come to my planet(Not really about hair, but still worth a visit!)!

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  • LadyRaeLadyRae Posts: 160Registered Users
    How can I use a soap bar in my hair???
    CoMpLeTeLy NaPpTuRaL SiNcE 7/21/09:headbang:

    :scratch:Still figuring things out...Help Wanted

    Come to my planet(Not really about hair, but still worth a visit!)!

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  • stargazer613stargazer613 Posts: 103Registered Users
    Aubrey Organics and Trader Joe's Nourish Spa
    Natural/3c/4a
    Loves: EMB, QB, Shea Moisture Style Milk, AO cons, Evoo, honey, jojoba oil, castor oil, shea butter, acv
    /herb rinses, henna

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  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    LadyRae wrote: »
    How can I use a soap bar in my hair???

    Sorry, just saw this.

    Most of us don't use just any old bar. They are handcrafted natural bars made the old fashioned cold process way--saponified oils.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • confusedmaidenconfusedmaiden Posts: 59Registered Users
    Depends on your hair. I will give you one wavy's perspective.

    I know people like Giovanni's Tea Tree shampoo/conditioner and I wanted to like it, but it strips the heck out of my hair. Oddly it does so more than my sulphate containing Back To Basics Curl Refreshing shampoo. I like that line and have been using it now since I have decided that I do need to shampoo and I do need at least occassional sulphates. I do wash with the CG method of applying conditioner to the ends every time I lather with the shampoo. Once that bottle is done, the search is on for another shampoo that might work just a bit better, but I find less frizz with that line (although still frizzy because that's just how my hair is).

    I love Aubrey Organics B5 design gel for when I blow out my hair or want to have a neater look (the hold isn't very strong but it does condition/protect the hair). But their GPB shampoo left my hair feeling strawlike and their conditioner left it overconditioned.

    I tried Avalon Organics with mixed success. I didn't feel it cleaned very well. Their conditioners contain cones.

    I have tried Giovanni's Smooth as Silk shampoo which works pretty well but should be alternated with a stronger shampoo because it can cause a bit of buildup.

    Despite the admonitions against them, I have found that I need at least occasional sulfates in order to maintain clean hair. I just try to use the gentlest sulfate containing shampoos (just one sulfate) like the Back to Basics line.
    My Fotki Page
    pw: lemonade

    2a/2b/2c i & ii. Very frizz prone in front, sides and canopy. Some spiral curls in front on good days. Mixed fine and medium thickness.
  • mochalatta408mochalatta408 Posts: 214Registered Users
    I ditto the soap bars. Shikkai Everyday Shampoo is number one. Trader Joe's Nourish Shampoo and Conditioner are also my faves.
    3c/4a, thick cottony/silky little spiral curls. Loves moisture, hates cones...www.beijaflornaturals.com
  • melaniesusanmelaniesusan Posts: 948Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    My favorites are:

    low poo: Avalon organics/olive grape seed; Trader Joes's nourish spa

    rinse-out condish: EO rose & chamomile

    leave-in condish: KBB nectar

    deep condish: KBB hair mask
    hair type: 2B/3A
    low poo: Elucence moisture; Elucence clarifying (after swimming)
    condish: CJ smoothing; CJ argan; CJ repair me; CJ curl rehab
    winter/spring styling: CJ Beauticurls leave-in + Curly Kinks coil jam + Ouidad mongongo oil; or CJ leave-in + SpiralSolutions CEJ & FHG
    summer/fall styling: CJ CCCC lite + CIAB + Curl Queen
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  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Kathy, that's probably it. I was at Lassen's Health Food store the other day and asked the girl which shampoos and condishes were protein free and she did not know :( I went with Aubrey Organics HR over Burt's Bees. Still too early to tell but I like the AOHR so far.

    Nett, I love manipulator. I use it when my hair is about 80% dry. I rub a bit between my hands and scrunch it evenly, and lightly, up into my curls. It helps to set the definition.

    I usually carry a jar in my purse. For some reason, I forgot it when i went to get a hair cut Sat. I have a Deva stylist I go to who is pretty good. Anyway, my hair looked gorgeous, of course ;) after she was done with it. I wanted to set the curls w/manipulator but didn't have it. My hair held all day very nicely, and I got decent 2nd day hair. I am on 3rd day right now and it's not great - too frizzy. But it's not awful. I tied it back with a ribbon and it looks ok. I never get 3rd day curls anyway!
    But I found it interesting that I (well, she) got such good curl formation without the manipulator. I may experiment with that. I've used manipulator for like 10 years. :D

    I loved bed heads manipulator when my hair was short....I should try it again.
    Central Massachusetts

    One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

    In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
  • orangeorange Posts: 176Registered Users
    I'd second Aubrey conditioners - Honeysuckle Rose is very thick & hydrating. To use as a cowash, I dilute it with water; otherwise, it works well full-strength as a deep conditioner.

    For shampoo, Terressentials pure earth hair wash (i like left coast lemon) leaves no squeakiness at all. i use it about once every couple of months.

    Both of those are completely natural.

  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    I used [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Max-Green-Alchemy-Scalp-Rescue-Shampoo-p-965.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=Max-Green-Alchemy-Scalp-Rescue-Shampoo]Max Green Alchemy Scalp Rescue Shampoo[/buylink] for the first time yesterday and had an excellent hair day with good second day hair today.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • OliviaRoseOliviaRose Posts: 83Registered Users
    Yes, Aubrey's Organics, Burt's Bees, Giovanni and NUDE Naturals are great brands for shampoo & conditioners that are Natural or Organic.
  • dailywavydailywavy Posts: 249Registered Users
    i really like chagrin valley shampoo bars. especially the mud and clay one.

    for my good conditioner, i love the burts bees more moisture. but there is protein in it fairly high on the label so for anyone who is protein sensitive, i would stay away from it.
    2b, 2c / f / ii / medium-high porosity
    Vo5-never again, i now can plop!
    CG since may 09, and hubby LOVES the new wavy 'tude!
    :thumbleft:
    products: CV SB, burt's bees more moisture conditioner, co-wash suave naturals coconut condish. FSG, shea hair butter, hair refresher
  • twirlygrannytwirlygranny Posts: 1,114Banned Users Curl Neophyte
    My favorites are:

    low poo: Avalon organics/olive grape seed; Trader Joes's nourish spa

    rinse-out condish: EO rose & chamomile

    leave-in condish: KBB nectar

    deep condish: KBB hair mask

    I agree. EO conditioners are the best:love4:
  • followmeskyfollowmesky Posts: 287Registered Users
    Q:my hair has been responding okay to garnier conditioner for dry hair ... is this product CG? maybe not?
    3b/C with nicer curls on the bottom!
    Hair: naturally very dry and VERY porous
    hair seems to be moody.
    Does not seem to like oils
    Does not like protein or too much?
    Does not like rich products

    So, I ask myself. What does it like? That is the question, and I'm on a mission.
  • sassette726sassette726 Posts: 694Registered Users
    I'm currently loving Trader Joe's Tea Tree Tingle shampoo and conditioner. The Burt's Bees products are really good as well.
    2b copper penny red
    "While the rest of the species is descended from apes, redheads are descended from cats."

    CURRENTLY USING:
    Renpure Moisturizing Shampoo, Body Shop Banana Conditioner, Ouidad Tress Effects GelMy fashion blog:
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  • morrighumorrighu Posts: 707Registered Users
    Followmesky - check your label for anything ending in -cone or -xane. They are silicones and are almost always death for curls.
  • Curly_JammyCurly_Jammy Posts: 626Registered Users
    You could try mixing up your own shampoo with a natural castlie soap, water, jojoba oil. I really like Dr. Bonners there are several really nice smelling varities. You could also add e/o for an extra kick Lavender, Sandalwood, Cedarwood are great for dry hair.
    3c, fine, porous,MBL
    Pre: EVCO Poo: GTTT DC:AO GPB, TJ Nourish Spa+EVOO
    LI: Cantu Shea butter LI, YesToCarrots,(AVJ+H2O) Spritz
    Style: AVG, Eco Seal: Qp Mango & Olive oil, Shea AloeMix
  • mushroom_headmushroom_head Posts: 118Registered Users
    Would Desert Essence Thoroughly Clean face wash work as a lo-poo? Check out the magnificent ingredient list!

    Castile Soap, Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) Oil, Olea Europaea (Olive) Fruit Oil, Organic Melaleuca Alternifolia (Tea Tree) Leaf Oil, Anthemis Nobilis (Chamomile) Flower Extract, Hydrastis Canadensis (Goldenseal) Root Extract, Hedychium Coronarium (Awapuhi) Root Extract, Fucus Vesiculosus (Bladderwrack) Extract, Cymbopogon Martini (Palmarosa) Oil, Citrus Reticulata (Petitgrain) Leaf Oil, Lavandula Angustifolia (Lavender) Oil, Mentha Piperita (Peppermint) Oil.
    Coarse, thiiiick, porous, drrrry, 2c, dislikes proteins, likes ACV!
    Suave or V05 for co-wash, Garnier Nutrise triple nutrition and sleek & shine, Matrix Biolage conditioning balm, FSG and LA Looks sports gel.
  • Curly_JammyCurly_Jammy Posts: 626Registered Users
    Mushroom_head: that combo sounds really good, but becaused its for your face, I would try it out on one section of your hair and sclap first.
    3c, fine, porous,MBL
    Pre: EVCO Poo: GTTT DC:AO GPB, TJ Nourish Spa+EVOO
    LI: Cantu Shea butter LI, YesToCarrots,(AVJ+H2O) Spritz
    Style: AVG, Eco Seal: Qp Mango & Olive oil, Shea AloeMix
  • dailywavydailywavy Posts: 249Registered Users
    I have recently changed my routine up a little and found a really awsome conditioner!!

    ***natures gate aloe vera for dry/damaged hair.***

    it ends up being half as much as the burts bees and works even better than the burts bees more moisture. and it is mostly natural.
    2b, 2c / f / ii / medium-high porosity
    Vo5-never again, i now can plop!
    CG since may 09, and hubby LOVES the new wavy 'tude!
    :thumbleft:
    products: CV SB, burt's bees more moisture conditioner, co-wash suave naturals coconut condish. FSG, shea hair butter, hair refresher
  • melaniesusanmelaniesusan Posts: 948Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    dailywavy wrote: »
    I have recently changed my routine up a little and found a really awsome conditioner!!

    ***natures gate aloe vera for dry/damaged hair.***

    it ends up being half as much as the burts bees and works even better than the burts bees more moisture. and it is mostly natural.

    Dailywavy, is the Nature's Gate good at detangling? I'm looking for a new conditioner, and tangles are my number one concern. I couldn't tell from the ingredient list whether it had anything in it for detangling:

    Ingredients: Water, Cetyl Alcohol, Aloe Barbadensis (Aloe Vera) Leaf Juice, Hordeum Distichon (Barley) Extract, Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) Flower Extract, Panthenol, Coffea Arabica (Coffee) Seed Extract, Viola Tricolor (Wild Pansy) Extract, Sesamum Indicum (Sesame) Seed Oil, Tocopherol, Stearalkonium Chloride, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Butylene Glycol, Citric Acid, Potassium Sorbate, Phenoxyethanol, Fragrance
    hair type: 2B/3A
    low poo: Elucence moisture; Elucence clarifying (after swimming)
    condish: CJ smoothing; CJ argan; CJ repair me; CJ curl rehab
    winter/spring styling: CJ Beauticurls leave-in + Curly Kinks coil jam + Ouidad mongongo oil; or CJ leave-in + SpiralSolutions CEJ & FHG
    summer/fall styling: CJ CCCC lite + CIAB + Curl Queen
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