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Twist out on 3b long hair with layers - Updated!

Any 3b curlies try this? I am home from work after getting 2 wisdom teeth removed yesterday and am maybe dopey from drugs. It seems that mostly type 4 curls use this. I really like the look and the bigness.

Also would this work on long hair or just be a pain? My longest layers are almost to the small of my back. I won't be leaving my apartment so figured I should try something different. My curls are tighter in the front and ends of my hair and looser in the back?
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  • KinkyKeeperKinkyKeeper Posts: 963Registered Users
    I have wondered if looser or White curlies use two strand aka kinky twists too. Twists and twist outs look good on any type of curl I imagine, they are good for protective styling (keeping your hand out of your head, preventing breakage and just letting your hair grow) more people should try them. Plus the resulting twist out gives you a cool look. And twists and braids can be a good style to blend relaxed and natural hair during a transition or give curls to heat damaged curls. /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Ftightlycurly.com%2FGrowItOut.aspx" class="Popup

    There are two examples of looser curlies who use this style:
    EmpressRi's channel:
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2Fricheau%3Fblend%3D1%26amp%3Bob%3D4" class="Popup

    Teri of tightlycurly.com and she has long hair down her back. I imagine twists on long hair can take longer definitely, depends on if you have the patience:
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    You can put your hair in thick twists, without needing rubber-bands to keep them from untwisting.
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  • monkeygirlmonkeygirl Posts: 25Registered Users
    Thanks Kinkykeeper for replying and for the links!

    I decided to try it out. They should be dry by tomorrow and if I don't like them then I can take them out before I go back to work. Doing this also seems like a good opportunity to use up the thicker creams and oils that I have. I used DM lock and twist on the right side and afroveda shea amla on the left. The size of the twists vary too much but I can't be consistent to save my life.

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  • auroramonroeauroramonroe Posts: 40Registered Users
    monkey girl.... i love love love your curls! how do you get such great volume without looking frizzy???? and the twist out look super cool! id love to know how you did it??
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  • ~Curly~~Curly~ Banned Posts: 772Banned Users
    That's how my twist look.. my hair is not nearly as thick as yours so I don't have as many.. but my twist curl up and just look messy... they never look as nice as the other women :(
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  • LoloDSMLoloDSM Posts: 3,778Registered Users
    Monkeygirl, your hair is so pretty!

    Does anyone know what twists would do on thin/fine hair? Maybe I'll try it sometime. My hair is still pretty short (and slippery), but it has always held a style well. Have any 3A's tried it?
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  • micol124micol124 Posts: 171Registered Users
    OMg they look awesome on you! So stylish!

    Here's a Q for you: do you just take 2 section an twist them together or do you twirl each one separately an then twist them together? (uhm...:scratch: I am confused.. did I confuse you too???) How about: how about a quick "How I did it for dummies?" :notworthy:
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  • vegas_curlsvegas_curls Posts: 857Registered Users
    I'm 3b, and when my hair was unlayered and waist-length I used to do 2- and 3-strand twists quite frequently. Like KK said, it would take for.ev.er, but the end results were always cool.

    Many times I'd then put the twists up in a high bun, a high-, side- or low ponytail, or wear it half-up/half-down. With that much hair, I was always looking for variation. Sometimes I'd sit under a dryer or let the twists dry overnight and then undo them, leaving me with rope-like spirals.

    Lolo, don't quote me, but I would think that a twist-out would give you a cute 3b look.
  • KinkyKeeperKinkyKeeper Posts: 963Registered Users
    LoloDSM wrote: »
    Monkeygirl, your hair is so pretty!

    Does anyone know what twists would do on thin/fine hair? Maybe I'll try it sometime. My hair is still pretty short (and slippery), but it has always held a style well. Have any 3A's tried it?

    I imagine you could do them if your hair holds a curl well because twists are kind of like using a curling iron to give you a different curl pattern (but without the heat damage) but curly hair usually holds other curly styles well anyway. I can't give you an exact prediction on 3a hair but twists always give a round curly O corkscrew look just like braids give a wavy appearance. I don't know how to explain it, Like this:
    Bigger Twists:
    ShirleyTemple.jpg

    Smaller Twists:
    twist_out.jpg
    I've always wondered if they did Shirley's hair in twists for that look. They probably just used a curling iron. And of course the bigger you make the twists the fatter the curls will be. And if it ends up looking too "perfect" you can always break apart the curls a little and frizz them up. Other than that twists out give some people more volume and other people less volume. On 3a hair it would give you more of a springy curl pattern, I imagine.

    And for those you don't already check out /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fcurlynikki.com" class="Popup she has a cool version of twists call the twist 'n curl. She twists and then sets the end on rollers. This gives the ends (which might turn out kind of straight) more curliness. Lots of people love it. Here's a video step by step tutorial:
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.curlynikki.com%2F2008%2F10%2Fas-promised-t-n-c-tutorial-is-here-d.html" class="Popup
  • KinkyKeeperKinkyKeeper Posts: 963Registered Users
    micol124 wrote: »
    OMg they look awesome on you! So stylish!

    Here's a Q for you: do you just take 2 section an twist them together or do you twirl each one separately an then twist them together? (uhm...:scratch: I am confused.. did I confuse you too???) How about: how about a quick "How I did it for dummies?" :notworthy:

    Hey I'm sure MonkeyGirl can give you a more exact answer. But as for the how to twist question. You don't have to twirl anything, it sounds like you are describing a style called single strand twisting and then two strand twisting the single strand twists. Which actually sounds pretty cool. Thanks for the idea! I'm off to go try that. 8)

    In general twists are done by dividing a section of hair (I usually take a section about 2-3'' wide depending on how big I am making my twists) in two and wrap one around the other, like braiding, but with only two sections. Imagine an old school phone cord or a Twizzler stick.

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  • micol124micol124 Posts: 171Registered Users
    Hey I'm sure MonkeyGirl can give you a more exact answer. But as for the how to twist question. You don't have to twirl anything, it sounds like you are describing a style called single strand twisting and then two strand twisting the single strand twists. Which actually sounds pretty cool. Thanks for the idea! I'm off to go try that.

    Awesome! HAHAHA!

    Ok, I am off to wash my hair and will try it! :D Thank you!!
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  • monkeygirlmonkeygirl Posts: 25Registered Users
    They shrunk up quite a bit - I was worried that they wouldn't. I used different products on each side but can't really tell a difference. Anyway, they are kind of flat and I prefer my hair to be bigger so I will probably sleep with it uncovered. Not sure how long it will last that way. Thanks for looking!

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fmonkeydraws%2Ftwist-experiment-part-ii%2F" class="Popup

    Oh - and Kinkykeeper is right about how I made the twist. I think doing it the other way would have taken a lot longer.

    Thanks Auroramunroe - there is definitely frizz there, there is always frizz! I am trying to figure out the volume thing too. That is 2nd of 3rd day hair. I need to sleep on my hair, uncovered to get volume it seems. I would like to be able to get it on day 1. But then I'd probably have to wash and style more often.
  • deletedelete Posts: 815Registered Users
    LoloDSM wrote: »
    Monkeygirl, your hair is so pretty!

    Does anyone know what twists would do on thin/fine hair? Maybe I'll try it sometime. My hair is still pretty short (and slippery), but it has always held a style well. Have any 3A's tried it?

    I imagine you could do them if your hair holds a curl well because twists are kind of like using a curling iron to give you a different curl pattern (but without the heat damage) but curly hair usually holds other curly styles well anyway. I can't give you an exact prediction on 3a hair but twists always give a round curly O corkscrew look just like braids give a wavy appearance. I don't know how to explain it, Like this:
    Bigger Twists:
    ShirleyTemple.jpg

    Smaller Twists:
    twist_out.jpg
    I've always wondered if they did Shirley's hair in twists for that look. They probably just used a curling iron. And of course the bigger you make the twists the fatter the curls will be. And if it ends up looking too "perfect" you can always break apart the curls a little and frizz them up. Other than that twists out give some people more volume and other people less volume. On 3a hair it would give you more of a springy curl pattern, I imagine.

    And for those you don't already check out /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fcurlynikki.com" class="Popup she has a cool version of twists call the twist 'n curl. She twists and then sets the end on rollers. This gives the ends (which might turn out kind of straight) more curliness. Lots of people love it. Here's a video step by step tutorial:
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.curlynikki.com%2F2008%2F10%2Fas-promised-t-n-c-tutorial-is-here-d.html" class="Popup

    It could be that Shirley's curls were rag curls or pin curls. I think she naturally had some wave or curl in her hair but for the time period, I bet they used one of those methods.

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  • RozettaStoneRozettaStone Posts: 695Registered Users
    LOL, I love how she emphasizes it's a NEW hairstyle! Maybe someone should send her the link to this thread...
    KinkyKeeper, thanks for posting esp all the photos of those beautiful ladies' knots; I'm always fascinated by the way the knots and twists look, and I'm so envious. I've been thinking of giving knots or twists a try myself, and now that I see that the little girl's absolutely straight silky hair takes some curl, maybe I'll get decent results? My hair is mid-back, thick and wavy. I just don't know if I'll have the patience, or the upper arm strength, to do all the knotting or twisting. I don't want to do just four knots, I want a dozen or so, like the pix you posted. I know we are all into embracing our hair, and I'm so glad mine is healthy and all, but sometimes I do wish I had more texture to play with.
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  • KinkyKeeperKinkyKeeper Posts: 963Registered Users
    LOL, I love how she emphasizes it's a NEW hairstyle! Maybe someone should send her the link to this thread...
    KinkyKeeper, thanks for posting esp all the photos of those beautiful ladies' knots; I'm always fascinated by the way the knots and twists look, and I'm so envious. I've been thinking of giving knots or twists a try myself, and now that I see that the little girl's absolutely straight silky hair takes some curl, maybe I'll get decent results? My hair is mid-back, thick and wavy. I just don't know if I'll have the patience, or the upper arm strength, to do all the knotting or twisting. I don't want to do just four knots, I want a dozen or so, like the pix you posted. I know we are all into embracing our hair, and I'm so glad mine is healthy and all, but sometimes I do wish I had more texture to play with.
    (Who is that white lady in the pearls? Her hair does not look like it's very happy! She needs some serious moisturizing, IMO.)

    Hehe actually the emphasis was my own, just wanted to make sure everyone saw it. Cracks me up. Sure if anyone here wants to send her the info that her hair style is actually quite old school (talking ancient African old school) be my guest. I just wanted to let my fellow curlies know becuase they understand. Plus to show these type of styles can be done on anyone's hair, since there seems to be some growing interest about twists, braids, and knots among looser curlies, even though you guys already have pin and rag curls which is something I just found out about. Exchange of cultural information can be nice.

    Aww Rozetta sometimes I am envious of wavy hair like yours. As for doing some knots in your hair, I'm sure you can make it work, if it works on straight hair. The blogger did have some good advice for those with less texture to do the style on slightly dirty hair. I usually get best definition on wet hair but maybe you should try wet dirty hair? Youtube has some great how to videos. It does take some patience if you plan on doing lots of knots but the knot out lasts quite a while if you do it right. And of course, only for the brave, the actual knots can be worn as a style.

    Oh yeah and I am pretty sure the lady in pearls is from photoshop and they just stuck that style on her head. hehe I found it on /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Flonghaircareforum.com" class="Popup
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  • wild_sasparillawild_sasparilla Posts: 4,306Registered Users
    I like how wave = ringlet and bantu knots = new style.:laughing2:

    This thread is making me excited - you all have no idea how much time I've spent turning green watching youtube videos of naturals styling their hair in twists or bantu knots or just in a wash 'n go...which, of course, I'd have to devote 8 hours with a rat tail comb and flat iron to have, lol. But someday, some miraculously free day, I'm gonna do it, I just know it.

    Anyway, I'm thinking of whether the hair would stay in the twists - I have randomly basically done a two-strand twist in my dry hair before just playing and it stayed until I took it out, but I'm thinking wet hair w/ moisturizing product in it may not want to so much. I want to do small twists, though, so I don't know what I'd use to tie the ends if I needed to - I have old orthodontia bands but they completely defeat the purpose of a protective style. I don't suppose there are any gentle fabric-covered hair ties in such a small size?

    And I so wish I could rock bantu knots without looking like I belonged at a Sci-Fi convention or something. Le sigh.
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  • KinkyKeeperKinkyKeeper Posts: 963Registered Users
    I like how wave = ringlet and bantu knots = new style.:laughing2:

    This thread is making me excited - you all have no idea how much time I've spent turning green watching youtube videos of naturals styling their hair in twists or bantu knots or just in a wash 'n go...which, of course, I'd have to devote 8 hours with a rat tail comb and flat iron to have, lol. But someday, some miraculously free day, I'm gonna do it, I just know it.

    Anyway, I'm thinking of whether the hair would stay in the twists - I have randomly basically done a two-strand twist in my dry hair before just playing and it stayed until I took it out, but I'm thinking wet hair w/ moisturizing product in it may not want to so much. I want to do small twists, though, so I don't know what I'd use to tie the ends if I needed to - I have old orthodontia bands but they completely defeat the purpose of a protective style. I don't suppose there are any gentle fabric-covered hair ties in such a small size?

    And I so wish I could rock bantu knots without looking like I belonged at a Sci-Fi convention or something. Le sigh.


    Hehehe you're not a thread maimer or killer Sasparilla. I was going to post something else but I didn't know if anyone was interested. Plus I kind of hijacked this thread. I think you should try some twists on wet hair. Yeah I suppose looser curls might not like to stay together but I'm sure you can find some hair ties that have fabric over them. Like you said, no rubber bands, especially if you plan on keeping them in for awhile. The second blogger seems like she sells her own line of hair bands called punky munkey but honestly you could probably find those in any hair store. Plus they look kind of kiddish.

    Anywho make sure and post any results you get if you do decide to try some twists/twist outs or some bantus/ knot outs. Yeah bantus as style are definitely not for everyone but one day I will get the courage to wear them out.

    I think this should become the official thread for anyone who wants to post their twist/braid/knot out photos. :evil3:

    Oh yeah I kinda scratched my head whenever she was trying to talk about some waves being ringlets.
  • burgundy_locksburgundy_locks Posts: 2,420Registered Users
    for 3b and above hair- or just hair that takes for ever to dry, when trying to do this, is your hair wet in the morning? my hair takes FOREVER to dry... and going to sleep with it wet and in this hairstyle, i can see myself pulling out ringlets that look like this: /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fmylittleponycollector.com%2Finfoaltern%2Fringlet1.jpg" class="Popup

    i dont want to look like a my little pony :(. my hair has a lot of body and will stay in a position it has been left in for a while.
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  • caribcurlscaribcurls Posts: 163Registered Users
    So yeah, I stumbled on this post yesterday and was reading tightlycurly's website, and decided to give the twists a try. I figured I'd share with everyone. Here's how they came out...

    Twists
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    Loose
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    They didn't come out as curly as I would have liked, but I'm transitioning and have only about 2 1/2 inches of natural hair (the rest is relaxed). My roots curled nicely though. I also didn't rinse out my conditioner, just left it in there, & I love the shine & how it smells...:iconbiggrin: It makes me happy...
  • GreatcurlsGreatcurls Posts: 1,782Registered Users
    The twist-outs and Bantu knots look great in all the pictures! Continue to have fun with them!
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  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users
    I got a chuckle out of that mom "discovering" bantu knots and she didn't realize it.

    I've worn two strand twists, although I learned them as rope braids, and I learned bantu knots as vertical cinnamon buns, lol. I'm too lazy to do the parts for the knots though. I just take a section and do it.
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  • wild_sasparillawild_sasparilla Posts: 4,306Registered Users
    Hehehe you're not a thread maimer or killer Sasparilla. I was going to post something else but I didn't know if anyone was interested. Plus I kind of hijacked this thread. I think you should try some twists on wet hair. Yeah I suppose looser curls might not like to stay together but I'm sure you can find some hair ties that have fabric over them. Like you said, no rubber bands, especially if you plan on keeping them in for awhile. The second blogger seems like she sells her own line of hair bands called punky munkey but honestly you could probably find those in any hair store. Plus they look kind of kiddish.

    Anywho make sure and post any results you get if you do decide to try some twists/twist outs or some bantus/ knot outs. Yeah bantus as style are definitely not for everyone but one day I will get the courage to wear them out.

    I think this should become the official thread for anyone who wants to post their twist/braid/knot out photos. :evil3:

    Oh yeah I kinda scratched my head whenever she was trying to talk about some waves being ringlets.

    Yay! I knew I was innocent! :lol: And I'll so totally be trying this out once I'm home for summer - it will come right after the Great Tiny Hairbands Search of 2009. I also agree that everyone should try twists/bantu knots and post their results, because this is a fun thread.:happy3:
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  • ReddishRocksReddishRocks Posts: 779Registered Users
    Thank you SO much for posting that! I Irish stepdance, and I have been looking for an easy, heat-free way to tighter, more uniform curls for competition. I think that might work!!!

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  • KinkyKeeperKinkyKeeper Posts: 963Registered Users
    Bumpity. There have been questions about bantu knots on looser curlies.
  • KitathenaKitathena Posts: 1,666Registered Users
    How neat! I never thought about bantu knots on such looser textures. The knot out turns out really nice.

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    Wow I love all these new styles to try! I've tried the double strand twists before but can't remember how it looked. Gonna def try again.
    And I will def try the bantu knots too! Can't wait!
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  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    This thread is SOOOO old but I hope someone can contribute some advice for me:

    How do you maintain your 3b twistout?

    --do you retwist at night or just put on a silk scarf/bonnet?

    --what do you do upon awakening? Do you refresh with anything, or reapply any product?

    I was googling this topic because I did a braidout last night, and this thread came up. I'd like to try something different so i won't always have to leave the house with a wet head on these cold mornings.

    I did 4 braids last night and sat under my bonnet dryer until they were mostly dry. It looks "okay" I guess.

    Anyway, thanks in advance.
  • adthomasadthomas Posts: 5,525Registered Users
    This thread is SOOOO old but I hope someone can contribute some advice for me:

    How do you maintain your 3b twistout?

    --do you retwist at night or just put on a silk scarf/bonnet?

    --what do you do upon awakening? Do you refresh with anything, or reapply any product?

    I was googling this topic because I did a braidout last night, and this thread came up. I'd like to try something different so i won't always have to leave the house with a wet head on these cold mornings.

    I did 4 braids last night and sat under my bonnet dryer until they were mostly dry. It looks "okay" I guess.

    Anyway, thanks in advance.

    Believe me with twistouts "mostly" dry and "completely" dry makes a dramatic difference. I'm lp do I usually do some time under a hooded dryer then go to go bed. Without dryer my hair would likely take two days to finish drying.
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