Summer vs Winter: what to change with the seasons

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  • lazykerrilazykerri Posts: 650Registered Users
    What's working for me right now is [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Rockin-Ringlets-Styling-Potion-p-100.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-rockin-ringlets]Jessicurl Rockin Ringlets[/buylink] and [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Confident-Coils-Styling-Solution-p-116.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-confident-coils-styling-solution]Confident Coils Styling Solution[/buylink] with Herbal Essences Set Me Up gel over it. I like the Set me up gel because it has a strong hold, and I usually do my hair at night and don't wash that frequently.

    For 2nd and 3rd day hair, I spray some Jessicurl Awe Inspiralling into my hands and smooth and scrunch--that's about it usually. If it's not looking so good, or seems really tangly, I rake my fingers through. I don't brush. I haven't tried this combo in the summer yet, so we'll see how it holds up later.

    Another combo that has worked for me in the past is Garnier Fructis Soft Curl Creme (this has dimethicone) with the Set Me Up gel. Especially when I diffuse. Diffusing seems to give my curls more bounce but can cause a bit of frizz. I only diffuse for 10-20 minutes so it's only partially dry, because that's all I have the patience/energy for. I don't follow the directions in the SCC, I use it as I use most products, smoothing and scrunching (no raking, twirling, etc). Except you do have to rub it between your hands first (as the directions say) because it's a wierd consistency. HTH :)
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  • LavenderCurlsLavenderCurls Posts: 1,478Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    My warmer weather good combo seems to be what's in my siggy: [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Aloeba-Daily-Conditioner-p-104.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-aloeba-daily-conditioner]Aloeba[/buylink] as a leave-in, a nickel-size glob of [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/AG-Recoil-p-24.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=ag-hair-cosmetics-recoil-curl-activator]Re:coil[/buylink] and a couple quarter size blobs of [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Confident-Coils-Styling-Solution-p-116.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-confident-coils-styling-solution]Confident Coils Styling Solution[/buylink].

    My cooler combo that I grew to love was either GF CnS conditioner (or the knockoff of PM The Conditioner) underneath Graham Webb Making Waves Curling Gel.

    I still play around with stuff (the PJ just won't die!), but at least I know what'll give me good hair days, winter or summer, when I need them :).
    CG-modified since 4/05
    2b/3a and 3b on occasion!
    Products: The hair aisle in my own cabinets. :roll:
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    Best volume winner: LOOB
  • SnarlsSnarls Posts: 2,537Registered Users
    BUMP
    formerly Castella
    (my dogs aren't snarly, my hair is)
  • samftraceysamftracey Posts: 13Registered Users
    I'm so glad that someone bumped this to the top. I was just trying to decide, now that we've hit that horrible in-between weather, if I should shave my head in desperation or become a PJ. The PJ thought is definitely starting to win...

    --Samantha
  • unique1193unique1193 Posts: 328Registered Users
    bumping :]

    2c/3a
    Growing out hair to a little above bsl
    pw: ringlets
  • ycats93921ycats93921 Posts: 60Registered Users
    soooo informative! thanks :]
    CG since 5/07 2C/3A currently using: jessicurl, Tigi Catwalk, re:coil and many more... proud to be a PJ!
  • DoodlesDoodles Posts: 1,984Registered Users
    Bumping up! :)
    2A/2B, fine, normal porosity

    Growing out a pixie as of November 2013 :elephant:

    Shampoo: Elucence MBS & Renpure Originals Argan Oil
    Conditioner: Elucence MBC & Renpure Originals Argan Oil
    Leave-in: CJ BeautiCurls
    Stylers: BA gel & AG Re:coil

    Product Junkie that keeps falling off the wagon!:tongue3:
  • 3cCurly3cCurly Posts: 114Users Awaiting Email Confirmation
    Wow this is just what I need! thank you lovely ladies for bumping that!!!!
    Can some of those products be used for thick curly hair? :D
  • Curls&WavesCurls&Waves Posts: 46Registered Users
    I am so glad for this thread. Even though my hair has improved a lot from the way it is usually in the summer, I am having major problems. Instead of big and frizzy, now it is flat and static-like. :?

    My hair has actually gotten more straight/wavy now than the winter from following the suggestions. Funny how before I wanted my hair straighter and now I can't stand it. It got to me when my straight-hair "friend" - ha(the one with complete ignorance to curly hair) said, "Oooh, your hair is getting straighter. You must be sooo happy, now you can have good hair and not wild hair all the time. Welcome to the better side." I wasn't happy with the straight hair, but with her comment especially "the better side," that did it for me. It was hard to come up with retort to her comment, but I made it clear I did not think straight hair was better but she was adament I was in denial. Arggggh.
  • SnarlsSnarls Posts: 2,537Registered Users
    bumping
    formerly Castella
    (my dogs aren't snarly, my hair is)
  • eweniqueewenique Posts: 1,502Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Laurabeth, any new updates or recommendations for product suggestions? This is such a helpful post. Thanks to all who bumped it!
    2C wavy with some spirals. CG since April 07. Medium texture and porosity.
    COs: Yes to Cucumbers
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  • EfrizzabethEfrizzabeth Posts: 8,792Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Eilonwy wrote:
    Thanks for the info! But you know, my climate is very hot and dry in summer, and cool and rainy in winter. Would I need to modify your suggestions in addition to using the winter tips in summer and vice versa?

    No...the dryness in summer would just be just as much reason for moisture as the hot-humidity and creamy products would still penetrate deeper with the heat. The cool temps can't hold the same amount of humidity as hot temps and humidity so maybe you wouldn't need as much moisture in winter as in summer, but at least you'll have a climate-built-in humidifier.

    As you might remember, Laurabeth, our climate is dry year-round. I think I'd have to take your winter recommendations & use them all the time. ???

    I now want to try Nature's Gate Hemp Conditioner due to your suggestions.
    For conditioners, [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Elucence-Moisture-Balancing-Conditioner-p-39.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=elucence-elucence-moisture-balancing-conditioner]Elucence MBC[/buylink], Nature's Gate Hemp Conditioner, Regis Smoothing or Olive Oil Conditioner, Umberto Giannini Curl & Twirl Detangling Conditioner, and countless others...winter is so wide-open since cones can come back on the scene without risk of being too heavy-yucky with summer's open cuticle.
  • laurabeth33laurabeth33 Posts: 1,443Registered Users
    lazy loops wrote:
    As you might remember, Laurabeth, our climate is dry year-round. I think I'd have to take your winter recommendations & use them all the time. ???

    Good question! I have observed two distinct camps on this. Some curlies feel that the heat (especially at higher elevations like in Denver, aka the Mile High City) of summer bakes products into their hair so they still do the summer routine, just with more of the liquidy leave-ins. Other curlies are able to do the winter recs year-round as you suggested.
    2b w/ some 3a
    product tester geek
  • EfrizzabethEfrizzabeth Posts: 8,792Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    lazy loops wrote:
    As you might remember, Laurabeth, our climate is dry year-round. I think I'd have to take your winter recommendations & use them all the time. ???

    Good question! I have observed two distinct camps on this. Some curlies feel that the heat (especially at higher elevations like in Denver, aka the Mile High City) of summer bakes products into their hair so they still do the summer routine, just with more of the liquidy leave-ins. Other curlies are able to do the winter recs year-round as you suggested.

    I'm sitting at 1K & some odd below that height.

    I'm going to buy the Nature's Gate Hemp Nourishing Conditioner today & give it a try tonight. I hope it's not like the Chamomile. That was thin & drying on my hair.
  • laurabeth33laurabeth33 Posts: 1,443Registered Users
    The NG Chamomile has a lot of protein. The Hemp is all about oils that absorb nicely/easily into the hair.
    2b w/ some 3a
    product tester geek
  • EfrizzabethEfrizzabeth Posts: 8,792Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    The NG Chamomile has a lot of protein. The Hemp is all about oils that absorb nicely/easily into the hair.

    Sweetness!

    I bought some & it smells similar to Aubrey's Island Spice. I loved the scent of that, but hated how it felt like it built up.

    The Nature's Gate looks nice & thick. :)
  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    bumping for jillipoo because it has hair chemistry stuff
    Kiva! Microfinance works.

    Med/Coarse, porous curly.
  • QuirkyYoginiQuirkyYogini Posts: 569Registered Users
    Bumping because it's relevant for a lot of curlies this time of year.
    I have 3c hair that I haven't straightened in over 5 years. It's just past shoulder length when dry, and almost waist length when pulled straight.

    Products:
    9/02/08 Went CG
    05/12/09 Still CG. Cowashing with VO5 Lavender Luster. I then condition with Giovanni Smooth as Silk. Styling with VO5 Lavender Luster conditioner with my wide-toothed comb.

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  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Bumping because it's relevant for a lot of curlies this time of year.
    Thanks Quirky, I put a link on a thread that I started cuz I have no idea how to "bump"!
    Discovered CG 2007

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  • tulipantulipan Posts: 209Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I have read a lot here on forum about temperature changes, because after summer sucessfull CG routine - it comes autumn and my hair look the worst ever. Even if I've got volume after pineapple, even if I put gel, leave-in or something - I'm going out and my hair is limp, flat - everything.


    My summer routine was:
    - conditioner washing, air drying and sleeping with a little bit wet pineapple (this was the evening step)
    - in the morning put a little cold water with gel into hair and they looked great

    Of course I modified: sometimes oils, sometims this gel, sometimes another.

    5 days ago we had temperature about 77F. Last four days it's about 50F - a little bit lower or a little bit higher.

    Nothing works for me, my hair looks like I didn't comb it - less curly, less wavy, I don't know what it is on my head:thumbdown:

    Tommorow I'm going for a half-bang, because I can't stand this hair. It's strange, because humidity is high and my hair loves humidity. I don't know what to do.
    3A/M/iii
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    full CG routine works for my hair!

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  • curlyneencurlyneen Posts: 138Registered Users
    DEL2C wrote: »
    Bumping because it's relevant for a lot of curlies this time of year.
    Thanks Quirky, I put a link on a thread that I started cuz I have no idea how to "bump"!
    Bumping is easy - you write "bump" in a post and it brings the post to the top of the list of threads.
    fine & thin, 3A/3B Botticelli curls
    Started CG July 6, 2008

    Current experiments:
    - Deva Low Poo (every 3 days)
    - Suave Naturals coconut conditioner for cowash
    - AOHR for detangling the length
    - KCKT/KCCC combo
    - Diffuse with the Deva Fuser

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  • rudeechickrudeechick Posts: 6,726Registered Users
    I had a really long post at one time about season changing routines. Let me try to paraphrase it.

    1. In summer, you need moisture to combat/balance out humidity. You don't want the moisture level in the air to be more than than in your hair or your hair will "reach out" (frizz) toward it.

    In winter, you need moisture to replenish what the extreme temps (cold and heat inside) with so much lower humidity in the air (so it's pulling humidity from your hair) are doing to dry out your hair.

    2. In summer, just like you use lighter lotions on your body and more liquidy products rather than heavy creams, fluid is better on the hair. You don't want to suffociate it (read: crimped frizz) but balance its moisture level with its surroundings. In summer, I might just leave-in 10% of my conditioner during the rinse cycle so it's liquidy and dilluted and not too heavy.


    In winter, you want to prevent moisture from being removed from your hair by the dry air. Therefore, rich creams, creamy leave-ins, and the like are perfect. I get a lot of frizz from creams in summer, but in winter, they give me chunky, clumpy, happy curls (like from the humidity's moisture but more in control). I'm more likely to use a cream or creamy leave-in in winter successfully.

    3. In summer, the cuticle is more likely to absorb everything around and on it because the heat/humidity expands its "opening." Because of this, clarifying is more important. There was a curly who posted about a road-construction site near her work. She said it wasn't a problem in winter, but when summer hit, her hair smelt and felt tar-like, as if it was absorbing all that mess. It was heavier in the air too (riding upon the humidity's water particles in the air). Therefore, she clarified more often, and the problem was improved upon.

    In winter, your cuticle is tighter (read: cold contracts instead of when heat expands). That's good for environmental yuck not penetrating. And because the air is drier (cold air can't hold as much humidity and inside's heated air is quite dry), you don't want to have to clarify (read: removes moisture) from your hair if you don't have to. Therefore, be careful about the creams you choose. Don't select creams that buildup because they will require more frequent clarifying (like summer's frequency), but the air is drier and can cause a vicious cycle (need more cream, need more clarifying, more dry so need more cream). A rule of thumb is that if you can't rinse a product easily from your hands with cool water (requires soap and/or hotter water), proceed with caution. And then clarify less often.

    4. In summer, use a gentler poo since you want to avoid having to add creamy/heavier moisture but need moisture to combat the humidity.

    In winter, it's fine for many to use a sulfate-containing poo to aid in the removal of the creamy leave-ins and creams without requiring full-fledged clarifying. You might not poo every day (maybe every other or third or once a week), but the pooing is a little stronger than summer to get the thicker stuff dissolved.

    5. Here's what you've been waiting for...product suggestions.

    In summer, for shampoos, I like [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Hair-Cleansing-Cream-p-103.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-hair-cleansing-cream]Jessicurl HCC[/buylink], Jessicurl Gentle Lather poo, and other sulfate-free poos. For conditioners, I like [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Too-Shea-Extra-Moisturizing-Conditioner-p-105.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-too-shea-extra-moisturizing-conditioner]Jessicurl Too Shea[/buylink] and other cone-free conditioners with some weight to them that rinse clean. For those with finer hair, Suave Coconut Conditioner, Alba Botanicals Hawaiian Mango Moisturizing Hair Conditioner, Avalon Organics Awapuhi Mango Moisturizing Conditioner, and Aveda Shampure Conditioner. Also, Biolage Conditioning Balm, MyHoneyChild HoneyNutt or Jamaica Island Conditioners, Nature's Gate Organics Persimmon+Rose Geranium Moisturizing Conditioner, and VO5 Moisture Milks Conditioners are all good choices. For stylers, I like HE Set It Up, BRHG, [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/DevaCurl-Angell-p-57.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=devacurl-devacurl-angell]Devacurl Angel[/buylink]l, Back to Nature Rosemary Mint Clean Gel (smells divine too!), Ouidad Climate Control, and my end-all combo...a generous helping of Jessicurl RR with about a 1/4 of the RR amount of [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Confident-Coils-Styling-Solution-p-116.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-confident-coils-styling-solution]CCSS[/buylink] (this even survives FL's afternoon t-storms that happen most afternoons and the steaminess afterward).

    In winter, for shampoo, I use Jessicurl Gentle Lather poo to start out with (like a transitionary poo), and then move on to [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Elucence-Moisture-Balancing-Conditioner-p-39.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=elucence-elucence-moisture-balancing-conditioner]Elucence Moisture Balancing[/buylink] Shampoo, Dove Moisture Rich Color, Suave Coconut, HE Hydrating Shampoo, Nexxus Therappe Shampoo, and many, many others. As long as it doesn't feel dry in my hair (Kenra poos were very drying for me), the sky is the limit. For conditioners, [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Elucence-Moisture-Balancing-Conditioner-p-39.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=elucence-elucence-moisture-balancing-conditioner]Elucence MBC[/buylink], Nature's Gate Hemp Conditioner, Regis Smoothing or Olive Oil Conditioner, Umberto Giannini Curl & Twirl Detangling Conditioner, and countless others...winter is so wide-open since cones can come back on the scene without risk of being too heavy-yucky with summer's open cuticle. For stylers, I love Rusk Being Gutsy, Boots Curling Cream, [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/AG-Recoil-p-24.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=ag-hair-cosmetics-recoil-curl-activator]AG Recoil[/buylink], Sally's generic PM the Cream (regular PM the Cream recently changed the ingreds and I haven't gotten to try it), Ouidad Tress F/X, HE Totally Twisted Gel, Rusk Jele Gloss, CK under B&A BioMineral Gel, and Pantene Curl Defining Scrunching Gel on dry hair to smooth any strays.

    HTH and hope I remembered everything!
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  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Bump
    Discovered CG 2007

    2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

    Link-Spritz & Condish Washing:glasses7:

    I'm aCurlJunkieJunky :love4:

    My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:


    CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
  • RyanneRyanne Posts: 686Registered Users
    Interesting.
  • danrobin0313danrobin0313 Posts: 186Registered Users
    Bump... this post is so informative and needed at this time of year.

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    Current rotation: Shescentit anything, Qhemet Burdock Root Buttercream, Castor Oil, Olive Oil, Hairveda Whipped Jelly, Aussie Moist and Aussie Gels

    Stats: Grazing APL, Dense, Medium Strands, 3c-4a curls
  • PrettyLady24PrettyLady24 Posts: 336Registered Users
    Bump
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  • FrizzBgoneFrizzBgone Posts: 2,678Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I never saw this thread before ... great timing - thanks for bumping
    :occasion5:
    Type: 3a fine & dense,with normal porosity, terrible product junkie
    ROUTINE: LI, enhancer, gel, plop with Curlease towel, serum product (either CIAB or Gel-les'c), clip & diffuse.
    Too many favourite products to list ... I finally have my routine that works and alot of products to choose from. My product stash is huge, but well loved !!!
  • PrettyLady24PrettyLady24 Posts: 336Registered Users
    OK, so I am about to buy product for this summer. I am in a wedding in June, and my BFF (the bride) was wondering what I plan to do with my hair. I'm the only natural in the group. I'm not hellbent on not straightening my hair, but if I can find something that will work with my curls that would be so great. (Plus, I'll stand out from the rest of the bridesmaids! :headbang:) Currently in my cart, I have [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Knot-Today-p-207.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-knot-today-leaveindetangler]KCKT[/buylink], [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink], and [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Elucence-Moisture-Balancing-Conditioner-p-39.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=elucence-elucence-moisture-balancing-conditioner]Elucence MBC[/buylink]. I figure this will give me plenty of time to perfect my [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] application and/or decide if it's right for me. I plan to co-wash daily with one of the many CG V05 conditioners, simply because I workout 4-5 days a week and I hate having a sweaty head. I'm not sure what rinse out I will use. I guess I'll go with the GVP CB and AOHR for a while and see what happesn. I know that the dewpoint goes up during the summer, so I'm read that I'll need more humectants and gel vs. emollients. Any product suggestions?!?

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