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Deva or Curly Expert Stylists and Short Hair

xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
There are a couple of threads about going short and having curly hair. I always had short hair and I actually miss it. I feel with my longer hair it looks thinner/finer due to it's length. But I rarely see a curly stylist showing photos or talking about short hair styles. Thoughts??? Do most people think that curly hair should be longer??

Del - do you think the infamous John can do short??
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  • msgibletmsgiblet Posts: 5,825Registered Users
    Well, after looking at your pic on the other thread, I know you can definitely pull off short hair!! Since your curl isn't super tight, I think it would be just fine.
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  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    Since mine has relaxed to 3A, if I go very short, I lose most of my curl - very strange because I used to have a poodle head when short.

    Anyway, if you've had yours short and know that doesn't happen, I say go for it - unless you're like me and miss the versatility of longer hair.

    Good luck, whatever you decide!
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  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    auntnett I think my thinness and fineness 'help' me escape the poodlehead look. For a 3a I still maintain quite a bit of curl but it's loose.

    On the other hand - I am wondering if I am looking at photos where I am 6 years younger and assuming I will look like that when I cut my hair. Kinda like rose colored glasses ya know? Maybe I should put this post in the over 40 thread!!
    Central Massachusetts

    One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

    In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users
    xcptnl Darling......:cool:
    I truly believe that John is a Genius and there is nothing he can't do!!!! Post your pic over here so we can see your shorter cut. I really think that length is very flattering on you!! I think John will take that cut to another level and you will be sooooooo very very happy! DO IT! You have the facial features for shorter hair and it will look FAB-tastic!
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  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    Per Del's request here is the short do from 6 years ago!! The only reason I hesitate with John (Del and I both get our haircut from him) is that when I mentioned shorter the last time he seemed hesitant.

    :dontknow:
    Central Massachusetts

    One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

    In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users
    Well you've been growing it out so maybe he didn't want to do something that you weren't 100% sure you wanted.. What did he say? Look at you! *whistles* ;)
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  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    Thanks for the compliment Del but there are a few more wrinkles and sags since that was taken!! I think I may take some photos with me - make an appointment in June. If I don't like it - I grow it back out. I went pretty short last fall and it's back to my shoulders again.
    Central Massachusetts

    One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

    In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
  • CurliLocksCurliLocks Posts: 10,572Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    You do short hair very well! And you don't look a day older than that picture! :D I'm jellis!

    Funny thing that we were whining when our hair got cut too short and we wanted it to grow. Now we want it shorter. :rolleyes: Yes, I have been contemplating going shorter with the coming heat! :shock: Esp with all those beautiful short hair pics everyone keeps posting.

    Go for it! :)
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  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,095Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    oh, i think your hair looks great short!!
    i just went short two weeks ago and am loving it! i went shorter because i am growing out my gray hair and felt it would make the transition slightly easier -- i'm only 6 1/2 weeks into the grow out. :-(
    the surprise was how much i love my hair shorter!!! if when my hair is all gray, i may grow it back to where it was, or, keep it this length. it's only hair, it'll grow, right? and, it dries sooooo much faster!
    and the cut in your photo looks great.
    i'm also a 3a, yet, the other surprise is how curly my hair is -- usually not so curly. i think it's a combo of products and the cut itself. i was not cg last time i had shorter hair.
    i say, go for it!

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  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    I think your hair looks really nice short. If you look in my fotki, there is at least one picture of my hair when it was just to my shoulders--it looks pretty skimpy. I think fine, not a lot of hair usually looks fuller when short.
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  • LoloDSMLoloDSM Posts: 3,778Registered Users
    Hi, xcptnl! My hair looks thicker when it's shorter too. Longer lengths seem to pull out the curl and make it look thinner than it is. I get big, thick chunky curls (when I keep my hands out of it anyway) when it's short.
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  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    xcptnl wrote: »
    Per Del's request here is the short do from 6 years ago!! The only reason I hesitate with John (Del and I both get our haircut from him) is that when I mentioned shorter the last time he seemed hesitant.

    :dontknow:

    Very cute! Yeah, when mine was last that length or maybe slightly shorter, it went pretty straight on me. If it still curled as well as yours, I'd have gone that short when I had it chopped a couple of months ago and gotten rid of even more of the old color.

    Go for it - it'll soon grow back if you don't like it after all. Mine has grown a lot in the 8 weeks since I got so much cut off.
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    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

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  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    I think I might do it! I am actually considering making an appt with my stylist from back in those days. I have not been to her in probably 4 years-I had started going into Boston to get my hair cut and then I moved. She cut my hair wet but I always thought she did a decent job with the short cut. And she would be 1/2 the price of my current stylist.
    Central Massachusetts

    One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

    In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    CurliLocks wrote: »
    You do short hair very well! And you don't look a day older than that picture! :D I'm jellis!

    Funny thing that we were whining when our hair got cut too short and we wanted it to grow. Now we want it shorter. :rolleyes: Yes, I have been contemplating going shorter with the coming heat! :shock: Esp with all those beautiful short hair pics everyone keeps posting.

    Go for it! :)

    You are so right! But that short cut I had was not done well at all. I liked her for trims but for that cut - not so much!
    Central Massachusetts

    One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

    In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
  • CurliLocksCurliLocks Posts: 10,572Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    xcptnl wrote: »
    CurliLocks wrote: »
    You do short hair very well! And you don't look a day older than that picture! :D I'm jellis!

    Funny thing that we were whining when our hair got cut too short and we wanted it to grow. Now we want it shorter. :rolleyes: Yes, I have been contemplating going shorter with the coming heat! :shock: Esp with all those beautiful short hair pics everyone keeps posting.

    Go for it! :)

    You are so right! But that short cut I had was not done well at all. I liked her for trims but for that cut - not so much!

    Exactly! So we had the right to whine because we were growing out bad cuts. :D I would go back to the old stylist too, you got a good cut and it was cheaper. :) I haven't had a short cut from this new stylist, don't know how it would go. She like my hair around shoulder length too. I like turtlelover's new cut, but I don't think it would work on me. :p
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  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users
    xcptnl wrote: »
    I think I might do it! I am actually considering making an appt with my stylist from back in those days. I have not been to her in probably 4 years-I had started going into Boston to get my hair cut and then I moved. She cut my hair wet but I always thought she did a decent job with the short cut. And she would be 1/2 the price of my current stylist.
    *cringe* why would you want to do that xcptnl? I'm sure John will go shorter if that's what you want. Remember that you said no one has ever been able to get your sides to curl the way he does. Don't do it.....trust me you'll regret it.
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  • CurliLocksCurliLocks Posts: 10,572Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    Maybe you could go to John for the initial cut, then go to the old stylist when the style is fresh so she can see it. Then maybe she can keep it up after that, as a short cut will need to be trimmed more often to be kept in shape and at the right length. :)
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  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users
    I'm just not convinced that any stylist would do for Exceptional curls such as Ms. xcptnl herself :toothy7:
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    My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:


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  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    Del has convinced me John must do this first cut. Great suggestion CurliLocks. I will probably make an appt in the next 2-3 weeks.
    Central Massachusetts

    One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

    In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    I always been the loyal type when it comes to stylists--they have to give me a bad haircut for me to "jump ship." I've been with my current stylist for almost 30 years! I think he's that good.

    My rationale for spending the money on a great stylist. You wear your hair everyday. If your hair looks good, you feel good. When your hair looks bad, you don't feel so good. There's a direct link there. If you get a haircut every six weeks, that's 42 days. Don't know what the price differential is (your old stylist could have raised prices) but isn't it worth a dollar or two a day to look and feel great?
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  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users
    There now, you see?? That my friends is the voice of reason. I will never, ever stray again! You guys have been listening to me complain about my Winter cut that was a complete and utter disaster. This is with the "following the lines" theory, it's just not the same. Granted, there are exceptions for every head. However, KM is absolutely correct. We wear our hair every day and our mood is affected when we don't look our best. I'll look for bargains elsewhere, it's just not worth the aggravation of growing out a bad cut.
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    My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:


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  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,095Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    i so agree with kathymack!! i may have to cut back, but my hair is one of the last things i'd cut back on. maybe i'd stretch the times between cuts, but never change stylists!! with a bad haircut, you're unhappy, you get it cut again, buy new products.....
    a good hair day can definitely help my day!

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  • CurlyinColoradoCurlyinColorado Posts: 3,093Registered Users
    So, I have to ask, are you cutting it short again because you get better curl formation or you just like it short?

    I like your hair a little longer, it's like mine so I enjoy your product reviews, hee.

    You're so pretty any cut will look fabulous, let us know what John has to say about you going short.
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  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    So, I have to ask, are you cutting it short again because you get better curl formation or you just like it short?

    I like your hair a little longer, it's like mine so I enjoy your product reviews, hee.

    You're so pretty any cut will look fabulous, let us know what John has to say about you going short.

    Thanks CIC!!! I am more about just feeling like I need a change. And, I will probably get it cut short, and then proceed to grow it back out again!!

    My 'old' stylist always did a great job on my hair so I don't feel like I would be settling at all but I do think John will tell me like it is as well as give me a good cut - so that is a good thing as well.

    I will get John's opinion and go from there.
    Central Massachusetts

    One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

    In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~