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Which gel should I get?

Ok, I know several people on here really like HESMU and HETT. But what I want to know is: Which one of these gels works the best, and why? If you don’t like one/either of them, what (budget friendly and CG compatible) gel would you recommend?

Here are some of the things I’m looking for in a gel:
- CG friendly
- Won’t leave my hair crunchy (one I can scrunch the crunch out of)
- Won’t make my hair look stiff, wet, or greasy (I like my hair to look soft and natural)
- Eliminates frizz but...
- Doesn’t slick down my hair; lets me keep some volume.
- All day hold
- Gives good 2nd day hair (not absolutely necessary, but would be nice)

I seem to have found my HG with my FSG-FOTE cocktail, but unfortunately I can’t take them on vacation (multi-week road-trip with no fridge :-(), so I’m looking for an inexpensive alternative (I want to have a little time to experiment with the new gel/s before I leave)—plus I have a coupon for $2 off any two HE products.

My hair: 3a/b, thick, porous, slightly layered, just below shoulder length. I'm 'cone and 'phate free too!

And just in case it helps—the ingredient list for both gels

Herbal Essences Set Me Up Gel, Max Hold

Water, Laureth 23, Polyquaternium 4, Bambusa Vulgaris Leaf/Stem Extract, Cereus Grandiflorus Flower Extract (Cactus), Fragrance, Propylene Glycol, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Benzyl Alcohol, Acrylates/Beheneth 25 Methacrylate Copolymer, Aminomethyl Propanol, DMDM Hydantoin, Acrylates Copolymer, Disodium EDTA

Herbal Essences Totally Twisted Curl Scrunching Gel

Water, PVP, Laureth 23, Lavandula Angustifolia Flower/Leaf/Stem Extract (Lavender), Jade Plant Extract (Crassula Argentea), Fragrance, Propylene Glycol, VP/Dimethylaminoethylmethacrylate Copolymer, Triisopropanolamine, Carbomer, Methylparaben, DMDM Hydantoin, PEG 12 Dimethicone, Propylparaben, Disodium EDTA
Hair type: Fine, thick/dense, low porosity 3A—with 3B mixed in.

My hair hates protein & LOVES honey!

Condish: Garnier Fructis Triple Nutrition
Styling: Garnier Fructis Pure Clean Styling Gel
Tools: Curls Like Us Curl Cloths, denman, finger-diffuser

CG since March 17th 2009!

Comments

  • Jess the MessJess the Mess Posts: 5,844Registered Users
    I didn't like either one so I can't help there but I have used the LA Looks sports gel (blue one) with pretty good results. It has really good hold.
    High Priestess JessMess, follower of the Goddess of the Coiling Way and Confiscator of Concoctions in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

  • whatsercurlwhatsercurl Posts: 4,049Registered Users
    I've used all 3 of the HE gels, some of the mousse's and some of the spray gels.

    HESMU is my favourite of any of them - hands down. It gives superior hold and scrunches out soft every time.
    Current Products: CJ Products: CF, DF, CT, SG, AFG, CIAB AND CK is back!
    Current Experiment: S&C by D

    Curl Fix and Daily Fix are my HGs :love4:


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  • aneffigyaneffigy Posts: 93Registered Users
    I rotate three cheap CG gels that you might want to try:
    Aura Hypoallergenic ($5 at Sally's)
    Biotera ($6, I think, at Sally's)
    HE Body Envy ($3 or 4 at a drugstore)

    HEBE is kind of tough to find; I've only found it at one Target in the city of Chicago, but I love it. It smells better than HE SMU and has good hold, but it's more flexible than HE SMU.
    3A
    Modified CG since 11/14/08!
    Low poo: Trader Joe's Tea Tree
    Co-wash: VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea
    Rinse out: Tigi MM, Tigi O&H, Tresemme Naturals Volumizing
    DT: Jessicurl WDT
    Leave-in: Giovanni DLI, Komaza CLI
    Styling: Komaza Coconut Pudding, HE BE gel, KBB Cream to SOTC
  • JusduitJusduit Posts: 578Registered Users
    I like HEBE too and for an even softer hold, sometimes I'll mix HEBE with a few drops of the Aura Hypoallergenic gel. I've never had any problem finding HEBE at Walmart.

    Good luck finding a new gel and have fun on your road-trip! :blob7:
    3a (protein sensitive)
    Fine, normal porosity, normal elasticity

    Cleansers: Mop-C Hydrating Shampoo, JCGLS
    Conditioners: CJCR, TJTTT
    Leave-in: CJCR, CK Satin Roots
    Stylers: UFDCM, CJPP
    Standby items:GVP K-Pak
  • jerseygirl07067jerseygirl07067 Posts: 296Registered Users
    HESMU has stronger hold than TT, imo.

    I love it, it has good hold, and scrunches out easily. Gives me soft 2nd and 3rd day hair too, smells awesome, and is cheap!!


    Hair Type - medium to fine texture, high porosity, lots of it, type 2b/3a
  • astormastorm Posts: 10Registered Users
    HEBE gave me good clumpage, but not so great curl shape, whereas HETT gave me a nice ringlety shape, but my hair was pretty much in stringlets. HESMU has seemed to combine the pros of the other two gels together, with no negatives... it scrunches out easily, gives me a nice curl shape and relatively ok clumps. It's worth the 4ish dollars
  • generositytgenerosityt Posts: 245Registered Users
    I second the suggestion for the LA sports, gives me soft and natural looking curls, it's my HG frizz fighter.
    A Mediterranean 3b lady
    In love with my curls, love love love
    CG since Nov/07


    Co-Wash: VO5, Tresemme naturals, Fructis naturals
    Cond: Nature's Gate conditioners
    Stylers: Lotions made at home with coconut oil, honey, AVG, vegetable glycerin, OO, and EO.
    Gel: LA Looks sports gel for high humidity days.


    Hair goal: Waist length healthy curls
  • AlannahAngelAlannahAngel Posts: 529Registered Users
    Is the pantene curls scrunching gel okay? I need to buy another gel too :)
    ~ BIG *sexy* CURLS ~
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  • LatinacurlyLatinacurly Posts: 78Registered Users
    I like the Biolage Gelee it has good hold and if by chance you put too much in and it gets crunchy you can scrunch it out easily :) And I believe its CG but I would check that out with the other members I don't want to recommend the wrong product to you
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    I second either LA Looks Sports Gel or BRHG.

    I hate HETT - gave me tacky-feeling stringlets, regardless of the amount. Haven't used HESMU, but I know some say it comes close to BRHG. LALSG is the closest I've found - I like it just as well, sometimes better.

    Bioterra's good, too, but lighter hold.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

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  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    Is the pantene curls scrunching gel okay? I need to buy another gel too :)

    I doubt it - most Pantene products aren't CG. However, some of your other products don't appear to be either, so you may not mind.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

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  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    I've used all 3 of the HE gels, some of the mousse's and some of the spray gels.

    HESMU is my favourite of any of them - hands down. It gives superior hold and scrunches out soft every time.

    I agree.
    Central Massachusetts

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  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    Is the pantene curls scrunching gel okay? I need to buy another gel too :)


    I like that gel but it is not very hard holding - at least in my opinion. And it is CG. Pantene has come a long way recently. But I like it but I would pick HESMU over this gel. Here are the ingredients:

    Water , PVP , Laureth-23 , VP/Dimethylaminoethylmethacrylate Copolymer , Panthenol , Panthenyl Ethyl Ether , Triisopropanolamine Carbomer , DMDM Hydantoin , PEG-12 Dimethicone , Methylparaben , Propylparaben , Disodium EDTA , Fragrance
    Central Massachusetts

    One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

    In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
  • Chelley MaeChelley Mae Posts: 359Registered Users
    I have tried HE TT and HEBE. HEBE is my HG Gel (so far, lol). I didn't care for HE TT. The HEBE for me gives really good clumps no matter what i put underneath it and has a nice hold, easy to SOTC as well.

    Now I haven't tried HESMU but a lot of curlies on here love it. That will be my next experiment.
    2b/3A/ Fine/Med Porosity (i think)
    Mod CG
    Currently Using:
    Cleanser: Kathymack soap bars, Giovannie TTTT
    Rinse Out: CJ Curl Theory, Aussie 3 Min Miracle, Giovanni 50:50, Jasmine's Shea, Sevi Pumpkin Seed
    Leave Ins: Jasmines Babasu Buttercream, CJ CALI (HG), Jasmines Shea, CJ BCLI
    Stylers: CJ CCCC-Lite, Komaza CHP, SS CEJ, CJ SG
    Gels: CJ AF (HG), HEBE (HG)

  • astormastorm Posts: 10Registered Users
    another inexpensive option is the GF spray gel for curls (cant think of the name right now). i twist the spray top off and just apply with my hands. i find i have less crunch even when using much more than HE gels, and im pretty happy with the hold, which is lighter than the HE gels (ive been out and about in the gross boston rain all day, and i have minimal frizz).
  • Curlie LocksCurlie Locks Posts: 40Registered Users
    I like the Tresseme Bouncy Curls Gel. It defines your curls while leaving them moisturized and its alcohol free. Plus it doesn't leave your hair crunchy!
    $5
    :glasses7:
    3a/b Miii
    Good Elasticity
    Long Hair(Half Way Down back when curly)

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  • AlannahAngelAlannahAngel Posts: 529Registered Users
    I doubt it - most Pantene products aren't CG. However, some of your other products don't appear to be either, so you may not mind.
    All my products have either cones that can be co-washed out or cones that are water-soluble (amodimethicone is water-soluble if there is trideceth-12 and cetrimonium chloride) but thanx for your opinion :)

    Okay thanks to everyone who helped about my question (pantene gel). I didn't get it but instead I got garnier fructis endurance 24H gel. It is not sticky at all and has maximum hold! I'm trying it tonight but it's not sticky on my hands! Sorry to be off-topic, I know this thread is about herbal essences gels.
    ~ BIG *sexy* CURLS ~
    ~~~
    Conditioner/Co-wash/Leave-in: Garnier Fructis Nutri Repair/Organic Instinct
    Styler: Garnier Fructis 24-H
    ~~~


  • kayemmkay159kayemmkay159 Posts: 171Registered Users
    I like HESMU because it smells really good, its not expensive, in my opinion it fights frizz well, and the crunch scrunches out easily.
  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users
    I doubt it - most Pantene products aren't CG. However, some of your other products don't appear to be either, so you may not mind.
    All my products have either cones that can be co-washed out or cones that are water-soluble (amodimethicone is water-soluble if there is trideceth-12 and cetrimonium chloride) but thanx for your opinion :)

    Okay thanks to everyone who helped about my question (pantene gel). I didn't get it but instead I got garnier fructis endurance 24H gel. It is not sticky at all and has maximum hold! I'm trying it tonight but it's not sticky on my hands! Sorry to be off-topic, I know this thread is about herbal essences gels.
    alanah there's some discussion about A-cone here /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Flivecurlylivefree.proboards.com%2Findex.cgi%3Fboard%3Dsilicones%26amp%3Baction%3Ddisplay%26amp%3Bthread%3D42" class="Popup that sheds new light on trideceth-12. It seems that the T-12 makes the A-cone dispersible in water but forms a film on the hair requiring a surfectant to remove it.
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  • sharon5152sharon5152 Posts: 207Registered Users
    i love AOMM--i get nice hold with it, and not a lot of crunch or dryness!
    3a/b
    Wash: CJ Daily Fix, KM shampoo bars, Giovanni 50:50 Clarifying
    Co-wash/Condish: Curls Coconut Sublime Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI & Styling: KBB milk, CJ Beauticurls LI, CJ Coffee-Coco Curl Lite cream, CJ CIAB
    DT: CJ Hibiscus & Banana Deep Fix, Shea Butter

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  • SoCalCurlSoCalCurl Posts: 21Registered Users
    Wow! Thanks for all the imput everyone. I never expected to get so many replies. :compress:

    Hmmm, HESMU seems to be the most well liked of the 3 gels, so I think I'll hit Wal-Mart tomorrow and give it a go. At least it's cheap, so I won't feel too terrible if it doesn't work out.

    I'll let you know how the results turn out.

    Again, thanks so much--there's a reason I love this place!
    Hair type: Fine, thick/dense, low porosity 3A—with 3B mixed in.

    My hair hates protein & LOVES honey!

    Condish: Garnier Fructis Triple Nutrition
    Styling: Garnier Fructis Pure Clean Styling Gel
    Tools: Curls Like Us Curl Cloths, denman, finger-diffuser

    CG since March 17th 2009!
  • konstant_konstant_ Posts: 41Registered Users
    The HESMU, for me, left my hair a bit greasy looking. I think it was too much hold for my thin hair. I do, however, use HETT and then scrunch in a half-dime size of HESMU after I've scrunched out all of the excess water. Gives me nice hold/shine and de-frizzes, without the weighed down/greasy looking side effects.
  • RozettaStoneRozettaStone Posts: 695Registered Users
    I haven't found the perfect gel for my hair yet. That being said, I use HEBE most of the time lately. It gives me nice big clumps. It doesn't feel sticky, my hair feels and looks good with it, but the hold isn't hard enough for me.

    I've frequently used HETT, and I liked it because it gives me more spirals. It's less clumping than BE so my waves are thinner, some might say stringy, but I like the look with my hair. Again, the hold isn't that great. Sometimes I've mixed BE and TT together and liked the results.

    But I just bought a new tube (first time in many months) and I see that HETT has PEG-Dimethicone in it. I don't remember it having this before and I'm afraid if this is the new trend for all the HE gels. I've used it only once and my hair didn't turn out very well, but it may not have been the gel -- I was traveling at the time. I may try it more to see, but I'm not sure I want to use even a PEG-cone now.

    I'd heard for ages that HESMU has great hold and lots of people here love it. I was looking for a tube of this stuff for ages -- it's never at my usual stores (it's sometimes hard to find HEBE, too). I tried the spray version of HESMU a long time ago and I thought it was really sticky and never bothered with it again.

    Recently I found a tube of the SMU gel. I've used it twice and didn't like the results at all. It felt sticky and I got a lot of frizz and my hair felt dry. I'll give it another try maybe with more leave-in, but I don't think it's for me.

    I love the Aura/Hypoallergenic gel from Sally's. It's thin and easy to distribute, gives me nice shiny soft hair, but the hold is way too soft for me.

    I've tried the LA Looks Sports (blue) Gel and the Dura ? hold (orange) many times and don't like the results with these either, but I kept trying them because the bottles are huge and it's cheap. My hair is in better condition now, so maybe they'll work better for me.

    I've used BRHG about five times. I need more practice with it. Sometimes I got great results, other times, not at all.

    I used the Sebastian Hi-Contrast Gel a couple of times and it gave me great hair. It is too expensive for me to use regularly. I put it way back on the shelf to save it for "special" occasions. I'll have to try it again one of these days.
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    Seal with camellia oil
    Leave-in: Aura cherry almond
    Gels: Homemade FSG, Eco-styler
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