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The Duggars are going to be....Grandparents!!!

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Oldest Josh and his new wife Anna... are expecting :)

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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    Of course they are. I'm sure Josh will have even more than 18 children since they're starting so young. No one in that family knows how to earn a living other than in a reality show.
  • CynaminbearCynaminbear Posts: 4,476Registered Users
    Good for them!
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  • inheritedcurlsinheritedcurls Posts: 2,954Registered Users
    Of course they are. I'm sure Josh will have even more than 18 children since they're starting so young. No one in that family knows how to earn a living other than in a reality show.

    IF that is true...that is sad. What happens when the show goes away?
  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    Dunno...That's not news to me. It's like saying water is wet.
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  • SCGSCG Posts: 5,416Registered Users
    Of course they are. I'm sure Josh will have even more than 18 children since they're starting so young. No one in that family knows how to earn a living other than in a reality show.

    Based on some of their business ventures, this doesn't exactly seem true. They actually seem to make rather wise business and financial decisions.

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  • legendslegends Posts: 3,073Registered Users
    Phoenix wrote: »
    Dunno...That's not news to me. It's like saying water is wet.
    HA! Yeah, I don't understand why the family keeps announcing their pregnancies and why people are so amazed. They've made it clear that they're against birth control of any kind, and Anna(?) is young and recently married.
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  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    The Duggars are part of a creepy cult offshoot of Christianity known as the Quiverfull movement. The idea is that children are God's "arrows," i.e. soldiers in the coming war between Christians and infidels. A Quiverfull woman's only goal in life is to "sacrifice her body" by bearing as many children as possible. There are no options for her except to be a stay-at-home mom in a near-constant state of pregnancy. Even the rhythm method is off limits. Needless to say, this places a huge financial strain on most Quiverfull families.

    Quiverfull families tend to follow the "neo-patriarchy" movement, as well. That is, the husband is the head of the household and the wife should not assert her opinions in any way, nor even harbor thoughts that disagree with her husband's decrees. They also practice a bizarre form of historical revisionism. According to them, even the Jamestown colonists were pious missionaries. They also hold a lot of ludicrously prudish beliefs. For instance, it is highly immoral for a woman to wear pants, or to apply chapstick in the presence of a man.
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    Of course they are. I'm sure Josh will have even more than 18 children since they're starting so young. No one in that family knows how to earn a living other than in a reality show.

    Based on some of their business ventures, this doesn't exactly seem true. They actually seem to make rather wise business and financial decisions.



    Sure...deciding to pimp out their kids on TV was very wise. :roll:
  • MarMar Posts: 3,003Registered Users
    Of course they are. I'm sure Josh will have even more than 18 children since they're starting so young. No one in that family knows how to earn a living other than in a reality show.

    Based on some of their business ventures, this doesn't exactly seem true. They actually seem to make rather wise business and financial decisions.
    I agree-in fact I believe Josh owns his own car dealership
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    Mar wrote: »
    Of course they are. I'm sure Josh will have even more than 18 children since they're starting so young. No one in that family knows how to earn a living other than in a reality show.

    Based on some of their business ventures, this doesn't exactly seem true. They actually seem to make rather wise business and financial decisions.
    I agree-in fact I believe Josh owns his own car dealership


    How did he get that at 21 years of age with no education? Proceeds from the TV show?

    And is buying a car dealership in an era when cars no longer sell really the smartest investment?
  • CynaminbearCynaminbear Posts: 4,476Registered Users
    Mar wrote: »

    Based on some of their business ventures, this doesn't exactly seem true. They actually seem to make rather wise business and financial decisions.
    I agree-in fact I believe Josh owns his own car dealership


    How did he get that at 21 years of age with no education? Proceeds from the TV show?

    And is buying a car dealership in an era when cars no longer sell really the smartest investment?

    As someone who home schooled her own child for a period, I'm surprised you'd consider a home schooled child 'with no education.'
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  • KookyCurlKookyCurl Posts: 1,980Registered Users
    The father was as state senator for a time and I've heard that the family has NO debt. I'd say that they are pretty good at handling their money.

    I don't believe in their lifestyle, boy howdy are they nuts, but they didn't get a reality show until relatively recently, after like 14 kids.
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    *Cricket* wrote: »
    Mar wrote: »
    I agree-in fact I believe Josh owns his own car dealership


    How did he get that at 21 years of age with no education? Proceeds from the TV show?

    And is buying a car dealership in an era when cars no longer sell really the smartest investment?

    As someone who home schooled her own child for a period, I'm surprised you'd consider a home schooled child 'with no education.'


    I consider him as not having an education because he didn't go to college. Not because he was homeschooled for his primary education.
  • MarMar Posts: 3,003Registered Users
    Mar wrote: »

    Based on some of their business ventures, this doesn't exactly seem true. They actually seem to make rather wise business and financial decisions.
    I agree-in fact I believe Josh owns his own car dealership


    How did he get that at 21 years of age with no education? Proceeds from the TV show?

    And is buying a car dealership in an era when cars no longer sell really the smartest investment?
    Well,it's a used car dealership,so U think that's a pretty good idea, and he graduated from HS-yeah,homeschooled-but passed nonetheless(we don't know how smart these kids are do we?)
    They have only been on TV for a few years,they were self sufficient before that.

    I don't get why they piss everyone off so much.
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  • legendslegends Posts: 3,073Registered Users
    KookyCurl wrote: »
    The father was as state senator for a time and I've heard that the family has NO debt. I'd say that they are pretty good at handling their money.

    I don't believe in their lifestyle, boy howdy are they nuts, but they didn't get a reality show until relatively recently, after like 14 kids.
    Yes, and when they got on the show they were living in a tiny rental house (like 3 or 4 bedrooms). The house they had been building was only finally completed when they show offered to pay for it to make a show out of it. They might have always been "debt-free," but they weren't living anywhere NEAR as well as they do now now that they have their own show.

    And Josh owns his own business (and house) because daddy gave it to him, which is fine, but let's not pretend that it's something he's worked for and earned.
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    KookyCurl wrote: »
    The father was as state senator for a time and I've heard that the family has NO debt. I'd say that they are pretty good at handling their money.

    I don't believe in their lifestyle, boy howdy are they nuts, but they didn't get a reality show until relatively recently, after like 14 kids.


    It was 13 kids, and they were living in a tiny rental 3 bedroom ranch house prior to their TV fame.
  • MarMar Posts: 3,003Registered Users
    I believe the house was built and paid for,but TLC DID offer to decorate it-and why not?
    All kinds of people go on TV for free stuff:)

    Josh worked for his dad before getting his own dealership.
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    Mar wrote: »
    I don't get why they piss everyone off so much.


    I guess because they spawned a society littered with people like The Octomom and John & Kate Plus Eight.
  • CynaminbearCynaminbear Posts: 4,476Registered Users
    *Cricket* wrote: »


    How did he get that at 21 years of age with no education? Proceeds from the TV show?

    And is buying a car dealership in an era when cars no longer sell really the smartest investment?

    As someone who home schooled her own child for a period, I'm surprised you'd consider a home schooled child 'with no education.'


    I consider him as not having an education because he didn't go to college. Not because he was homeschooled for his primary education.

    Many successful people have not attended college and are able to support their own families, as well as run their own successful businesses.

    Mar, I don't get it either. If it's such a problem then don't watch them, don't read articles about the, and ignore threads about them.
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  • legendslegends Posts: 3,073Registered Users
    Mar wrote: »
    I believe the house was built and paid for,but TLC DID offer to decorate it-and why not?
    All kinds of people go on TV for free stuff:)
    No it wasn't. It was maybe halfway built when they made the deal. Which I think is great. If Discovery is going to get ratings from them then the family should charge whatever they can get. It's the disingenuous "debt-free" talk that's annoying. They have what they have because people like to watch what they consider to be freak shows, not because of any realistic financial decisions they've made (by realistic, I mean that very, very few people get to make money from being on tv. It's not a realistic goal).
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    Why are there so many big-family programs on TLC? The Duggars...Jon and Kate Plus Eight...Table for 12.

    The experience is interesting...but that interesting?
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  • ScarletScarlet Posts: 3,125Registered Users
    I just don't get these families with all of these kids, but if there is an audience for the TV programs, how can you blame the families for taking advantage of that? There's obviously a market out there (somewhere) for it.

    ETA: I don't think the Duggars had all these kids to profit from reality TV. In the case of the Octomom, I think her decision is based on the hope for $$$, along with a hefty dose of the crazy.
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  • PartyHairPartyHair Posts: 7,713Registered Users
    legends wrote: »
    Mar wrote: »
    I believe the house was built and paid for,but TLC DID offer to decorate it-and why not?
    All kinds of people go on TV for free stuff:)
    No it wasn't. It was maybe halfway built when they made the deal. Which I think is great. If Discovery is going to get ratings from them then the family should charge whatever they can get. It's the disingenuous "debt-free" talk that's annoying. They have what they have because people like to watch what they consider to be freak shows, not because of any realistic financial decisions they've made (by realistic, I mean that very, very few people get to make money from being on tv. It's not a realistic goal).

    Agree with all, esp. the bolded.
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  • PigletPiglet Posts: 1,451Registered Users
    I've watched some shows and the ones I've seen have never been clear about where they get their money from. They talk about living debt-free, but you need money to live debt-free. And even if you live frugally, that number of children will still be very expensive.
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  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
    Eilonwy wrote: »
    The Duggars are part of a creepy cult offshoot of Christianity known as the Quiverfull movement. The idea is that children are God's "arrows," i.e. soldiers in the coming war between Christians and infidels. A Quiverfull woman's only goal in life is to "sacrifice her body" by bearing as many children as possible. There are no options for her except to be a stay-at-home mom in a near-constant state of pregnancy. Even the rhythm method is off limits. Needless to say, this places a huge financial strain on most Quiverfull families.

    Quiverfull families tend to follow the "neo-patriarchy" movement, as well. That is, the husband is the head of the household and the wife should not assert her opinions in any way, nor even harbor thoughts that disagree with her husband's decrees. They also practice a bizarre form of historical revisionism. According to them, even the Jamestown colonists were pious missionaries. They also hold a lot of ludicrously prudish beliefs. For instance, it is highly immoral for a woman to wear pants, or to apply chapstick in the presence of a man.

    Yikes and a half.
  • Nappy_curly_crownNappy_curly_crown Posts: 4,162Registered Users
    ninja dog wrote: »
    Eilonwy wrote: »
    The Duggars are part of a creepy cult offshoot of Christianity known as the Quiverfull movement. The idea is that children are God's "arrows," i.e. soldiers in the coming war between Christians and infidels. A Quiverfull woman's only goal in life is to "sacrifice her body" by bearing as many children as possible. There are no options for her except to be a stay-at-home mom in a near-constant state of pregnancy. Even the rhythm method is off limits. Needless to say, this places a huge financial strain on most Quiverfull families.

    Quiverfull families tend to follow the "neo-patriarchy" movement, as well. That is, the husband is the head of the household and the wife should not assert her opinions in any way, nor even harbor thoughts that disagree with her husband's decrees. They also practice a bizarre form of historical revisionism. According to them, even the Jamestown colonists were pious missionaries. They also hold a lot of ludicrously prudish beliefs. For instance, it is highly immoral for a woman to wear pants, or to apply chapstick in the presence of a man.

    Yikes and a half.

    Dayum....no wonder this woman has essentially been pregnant and popped out a kid every year for the past 20 years.
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  • ScarletScarlet Posts: 3,125Registered Users
    I know my mind shouldn't go here, but I can't help but wonder if she even enjoys sex, or is it just a biological function. I'd venture to guess that I know the answer.
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  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
    ninja dog wrote: »
    Eilonwy wrote: »
    The Duggars are part of a creepy cult offshoot of Christianity known as the Quiverfull movement. The idea is that children are God's "arrows," i.e. soldiers in the coming war between Christians and infidels. A Quiverfull woman's only goal in life is to "sacrifice her body" by bearing as many children as possible. There are no options for her except to be a stay-at-home mom in a near-constant state of pregnancy. Even the rhythm method is off limits. Needless to say, this places a huge financial strain on most Quiverfull families.

    Quiverfull families tend to follow the "neo-patriarchy" movement, as well. That is, the husband is the head of the household and the wife should not assert her opinions in any way, nor even harbor thoughts that disagree with her husband's decrees. They also practice a bizarre form of historical revisionism. According to them, even the Jamestown colonists were pious missionaries. They also hold a lot of ludicrously prudish beliefs. For instance, it is highly immoral for a woman to wear pants, or to apply chapstick in the presence of a man.

    Yikes and a half.

    Dayum....no wonder this woman has essentially been pregnant and popped out a kid every year for the past 20 years.

    :laughing7:
  • BiancaBianca Posts: 2,492Registered Users
    I think I've seen one or two episodes of their show and I swear I'm like :shock: every time they show all those kids.

    The last episode I saw was when they were preparing for baby 18 and picking out bedding and carseats and the mom said something like "It's a little sad but really important that we do all this preparation because this baby could very well be our last baby. At 42 my child bearing days may be over..."

    Trying to speak something into existence are we Michelle? She's probably hoping her child bearing days are over.
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  • scrillsscrills Posts: 6,700Registered Users
    let me first say that this whole thing creeps my out....

    I believe she did use BC at one point. I think she links it to her miscarriage and therefore stopped using it.
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