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CG is not for people who are really active. What do you think?

I really think CG is not for active people. I work out and play sports multiple times in any given week, so obviously I sweat a lot and I get dirty.

I've been CG since the start of 2009, it was working well for my hair but not for my scalp. I've been having an itchy scalp and I also have some bumps on my scalp. I thought its just my scalp getting adjusted, but its been 3+ months and I still have some of those bumps. I've been doing some research and I think its clogged hair follicles. Probably from the sweat and dirt and so on. I don't think conditioner washing is strong enough to get rid of that stuff.

So, I've decided to use a low-poo every week or so. I just bought the giovanni tea tree triple treat shampoo.

What do you guys think about this whole issue?
I'm a Guy on mod CG, 3a.

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  • msgibletmsgiblet Posts: 5,825Registered Users
    Strict CG doesn't work for everyone and there's certainly nothing wrong with a low poo once in awhile. But I'm sure there must be some very active people here that are strict CG and have no problem with it. Just want to ask -- are you scrubbing your scalp really, really well? Co-washing does require more scrubbing than shampooing does to get your scalp really clean. Even though I'm not CG, I think it's the best way to go if you can.
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  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    I'd agree you probably need to low-poo at least once or twice a week, if nothing else because co-washing every day would cause a lot of people to get over conditioned. I don't work out all the time like you, but I low-poo ever so often with GTTT because my scalp needs it for seborrehic dermatitis.

    Also, I see you're using LOOB - just co-washing is likely not removing the castor oil in it, and that could be contributing to your problems. Even though the castor oil in it is PEG/PPG modified and supposed to be water soluble, co-washing doesn't remove it in LOOB, ArcAngell and other products that I've used that contain it.

    ETA: Also, doesn't LVPNG contain amodimethicone? If so, you probably need to low-poo sometimes to be sure you're removing all of that, too.
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  • marinacurlzmarinacurlz Posts: 1,720Registered Users
    I agree. I have to low poo every week if not twice a week otherwise I get a super itchy, irritated scalp. The low poo or baking soda rinses really help.
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  • NalliaNallia Posts: 2,979Registered Users
    auntnett wrote: »
    ETA: Also, doesn't LVPNG contain amodimethicone? If so, you probably need to low-poo sometimes to be sure you're removing all of that, too.

    LVPNG for "long hair that's wavy/curly" has no silicone, but it is the only one. The others have amodimethicone.
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  • curlylioncurlylion Posts: 56Registered Users
    Yes msgiblet, I make sure I scrub really well when I cowash.

    auntnett, the LVPNG I have does not have amodimethicone in it.

    I actually think the clogged follicles are stopping new growth. I think my hair actually looks a little thinner now. :(

    Is low-poo gonna be enough to unclog those follicles to encourage new growth?
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  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    I'd think so, if that's the only cause of the the thinning.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

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  • curlylioncurlylion Posts: 56Registered Users
    auntnett wrote: »
    I'd think so, if that's the only cause of the the thinning.

    I mean my hair didn't look this thin before CG, so what else could it be?
    I'm a Guy on mod CG, 3a.

    Currently using:
    Suave Naturals Coconut
    Loreal Vive Pro Nutri Gloss
    Loob
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    Nallia wrote: »
    LVPNG for "long hair that's wavy/curly" has no silicone, but it is the only one. The others have amodimethicone.

    Knew that was the preferred formula here, but I was thinking even it had some sort of water soluble 'cone in it . . . .
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    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

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  • lasaritalasarita Posts: 32Registered Users
    Curlylion - I'm new to CG and still playing around with it, and I workout vigorously 4-5 a week (like sweat dripping off nose and definitely in hair). So far I've been cowashing everyday that I workout to deal with the sweat issue, and used TTTT as a low-poo this week. I really think the tea tree should help your scalp health.
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  • curlylioncurlylion Posts: 56Registered Users
    lasarita wrote: »
    Curlylion - I'm new to CG and still playing around with it, and I workout vigorously 4-5 a week (like sweat dripping off nose and definitely in hair). So far I've been cowashing everyday that I workout to deal with the sweat issue, and used TTTT as a low-poo this week. I really think the tea tree should help your scalp health.

    Yea, i've been cowashing the day after my workout. But I still think I need to low-poo too. How many times a week do you used the GTTTT?
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  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    curlylion wrote: »
    auntnett wrote: »
    I'd think so, if that's the only cause of the the thinning.

    I mean my hair didn't look this thin before CG, so what else could it be?

    If it's happened just in that three month period, that likely is all it is - I just didn't know other factors such as your age, whether male pattern baldness runs in your family, etc. I'd think GTTT would be very good for your scalp. I love it!
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

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  • NalliaNallia Posts: 2,979Registered Users
    auntnett wrote: »
    Nallia wrote: »
    LVPNG for "long hair that's wavy/curly" has no silicone, but it is the only one. The others have amodimethicone.

    Knew that was the preferred formula here, but I was thinking even it had some sort of water soluble 'cone in it . . . .

    Nope, it's the only one without any at all. :)

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  • curlylioncurlylion Posts: 56Registered Users
    auntnett wrote: »
    curlylion wrote: »
    auntnett wrote: »
    I'd think so, if that's the only cause of the the thinning.

    I mean my hair didn't look this thin before CG, so what else could it be?

    If it's happened just in that three month period, that likely is all it is - I just didn't know other factors such as your age, whether male pattern baldness runs in your family, etc. I'd think GTTT would be very good for your scalp. I love it!

    I'm 22 so I dont think its baldness yet. lol

    But yea, I'm just noticing it since I've been CG. So, what do you think?
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    Currently using:
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    Loreal Vive Pro Nutri Gloss
    Loob
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    curlylion wrote: »
    auntnett wrote: »
    curlylion wrote: »

    I mean my hair didn't look this thin before CG, so what else could it be?

    If it's happened just in that three month period, that likely is all it is - I just didn't know other factors such as your age, whether male pattern baldness runs in your family, etc. I'd think GTTT would be very good for your scalp. I love it!

    I'm 22 so I dont think its baldness yet. lol

    But yea, I'm just noticing it since I've been CG. So, what do you think?
    I'd try GTTTT and just see. If after good clarification and a little time, you still seem to be thinning, I'd ask your dr. about it.

    Although it's young, 22 isn't unheard of for a guy to begin thinning, especially if it runs in his family. My BIL's brother started losing his in high school. It was so thin by his sr. year that he just shaved his head and has been doing so ever since. Not trying to scare you, just saying . . . . My five uncles on my mother's side were all bald on top by the time they were 25.

    All this to say that if the dr. thinks you are actually beginning to thin/recede due to MPB, the sooner you start preventive measures like Rogaine, etc. the better if you want to preserve it.

    Avoid wearing caps a lot - they don't help!
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

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  • curlylioncurlylion Posts: 56Registered Users
    auntnett wrote: »
    curlylion wrote: »
    auntnett wrote: »

    If it's happened just in that three month period, that likely is all it is - I just didn't know other factors such as your age, whether male pattern baldness runs in your family, etc. I'd think GTTT would be very good for your scalp. I love it!

    I'm 22 so I dont think its baldness yet. lol

    But yea, I'm just noticing it since I've been CG. So, what do you think?
    I'd try GTTTT and just see. If after good clarification and a little time, you still seem to be thinning, I'd ask your dr. about it.

    Although it's young, 22 isn't unheard of for a guy to begin thinning, especially if it runs in his family. My BIL's brother started losing his in high school. It was so thin by his sr. year that he just shaved his head and has been doing so ever since. Not trying to scare you, just saying . . . . My five uncles on my mother's side were all bald on top by the time they were 25.

    All this to say that if the dr. thinks you are actually beginning to thin/recede due to MPB, the sooner you start preventive measures like Rogaine, etc. the better if you want to preserve it.

    Avoid wearing caps a lot - they don't help!

    Yea, i know that some people start thinning really early, but I think its a gradual process isnt it?

    I don't think MPB just hits you outta nowhere. My dad has thinning hair, he's in his 50's and still not completely bald.

    I'll try using GTTTT and see if it gets better, if not I guess I have to ask my doctor. How long do you think I should give it to see improvement in terms of thickness?
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    Loreal Vive Pro Nutri Gloss
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  • lasaritalasarita Posts: 32Registered Users
    Curlylion: I've only done TTTT once a week, but like I said, I'm new to CG and playing around with it. Try it every 4 days or so and play it by ear from there.

    Also... you're going to hate me.... my husband is about 70% bald and has been since he was 19 or 20. He shaved his hair off for a fraternity thing and it just never grew back! The good news is, he'll look the same at 80 that he did at 20. ;)
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  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    curlylion wrote: »
    auntnett wrote: »
    curlylion wrote: »

    I'm 22 so I dont think its baldness yet. lol

    But yea, I'm just noticing it since I've been CG. So, what do you think?
    I'd try GTTTT and just see. If after good clarification and a little time, you still seem to be thinning, I'd ask your dr. about it.

    Although it's young, 22 isn't unheard of for a guy to begin thinning, especially if it runs in his family. My BIL's brother started losing his in high school. It was so thin by his sr. year that he just shaved his head and has been doing so ever since. Not trying to scare you, just saying . . . . My five uncles on my mother's side were all bald on top by the time they were 25.

    All this to say that if the dr. thinks you are actually beginning to thin/recede due to MPB, the sooner you start preventive measures like Rogaine, etc. the better if you want to preserve it.

    Avoid wearing caps a lot - they don't help!

    Yea, i know that some people start thinning really early, but I think its a gradual process isnt it?

    I don't think MPB just hits you outta nowhere. My dad has thinning hair, he's in his 50's and still not completely bald.

    I'll try using GTTTT and see if it gets better, if not I guess I have to ask my doctor. How long do you think I should give it to see improvement in terms of thickness?

    Not necessarily . . . I've seen a lot of men start losing it pretty suddenly and quickly - that's why I said I'd see a dr. if this doesn't turn it around. He/she could discuss alternatives, maybe prescribe Propecia or something, if you want, to slow it down if it does seem to be the onset of MPB.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

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  • rudeechickrudeechick Posts: 6,726Registered Users
    I work out a minimum of 60-90 minutes a day (4 of those days are running 3-5 miles) I have no problem whatsoever. No greasies, no itcht scalp, nothing.
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  • curlylioncurlylion Posts: 56Registered Users
    I would like to thank you all for scaring the hell out of me with this whole baldness talk. lol

    I know this forum is bias towards CG, but I didn't know people will say that I'm balding (without seeing me) before questioning CG. haha I didn't take any offense, its just funny that's all.

    With all that being said, I love CG too but my scalp doesnt.

    If it was just the thinning hair without the itchy, flaky scalp with bumps, I might agree with y'all and say that it might be balding. So, I really don't think its balding.

    I gave CG 3 months, so I'm gonna give low-poo 3 months too and see if I see any improvement before consulting the doctor.
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  • SunshineGrrlSunshineGrrl Posts: 3,823Registered Users
    Might I also suggest doing a sugar scrub on your scalp? That could help get rid of the bumps and itchiness without resorting to shampooing. I just suggest this because I've recently been through this myself, though my thinning hair is due to taking a prescription medication. I've been shampooing and it's been causing itching, flaking and itchy bumps. I used a sugar scrub and the flaking and itching stopped immediately and the bumps went away.

    I'm going to be giving full CG a try again since my scalp seems to be freaking out and I seem to have discovered finally how to co-wash in a way that works for me.

  • whatsercurlwhatsercurl Posts: 4,049Registered Users
    I work out 6-7 times a week and I've been able to maintain no-poo. I'm also much older so my skin is probably less oily.

    As for it looking thinner, I suspect it is the CG doing that. My hair clumps together more (and quite oddly at times) on CG then it did before so it looks thinner too. Although I shed a lot of hair when I detangle, I know I'm not balding.
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  • bethmeglobethmeglo Posts: 49Registered Users
    curlylion wrote: »
    I really think CG is not for active people. I work out and play sports multiple times in any given week, so obviously I sweat a lot and I get dirty.

    I've been CG since the start of 2009, it was working well for my hair but not for my scalp. I've been having an itchy scalp and I also have some bumps on my scalp. I thought its just my scalp getting adjusted, but its been 3+ months and I still have some of those bumps. I've been doing some research and I think its clogged hair follicles. Probably from the sweat and dirt and so on. I don't think conditioner washing is strong enough to get rid of that stuff.

    So, I've decided to use a low-poo every week or so. I just bought the giovanni tea tree triple treat shampoo.

    What do you guys think about this whole issue?

    I don't usually post but I had to on this subject because I've had LOTS of experience.
    I know what you are talking about. I experienced something similar to what this last summer when I was playing sports outside in the heat and also working at my college's community garden: sweating for hours and CG just didn't mix for me. I didn't have scalp bumps so much as massive amounts of greasy, white buildup and dandruff.
    Co-washing daily, brown sugar scrubs, ACV rinses, lemon juice, tea tree oil, none of it really worked for me. Finally, after being CG for five months with all that nasty dandruff, I low pooed. My hair didn't like it : ( but my scalp did.
    I'd say low poo. Don't be surprised if the first time you do it, you still have the gross scalp. I had to do it several times over several days. Eventually I wound up washing with sulfates, but it was just because I was really grossed out by what my scalp had become.
    You might not have to.
    I still have to low poo because the dandruff, itchiness and buildup flare up after a while with me no matter what (although I am still really active).
    Good luck!
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  • TeaTimeTeaTime Posts: 59Registered Users
    I personally held off going CG for a while because I was basically lived at the barn all day long and the thought of not shampooing when I had dirt, grime, and horse poop dust floating about my head just kinda disgusted me.

    Once I was done with my research, I decided to give it a shot and I've liked it, although I do low-poo once or twice a week.
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  • curlylioncurlylion Posts: 56Registered Users
    bethmeglo wrote: »
    curlylion wrote: »
    I really think CG is not for active people. I work out and play sports multiple times in any given week, so obviously I sweat a lot and I get dirty.

    I've been CG since the start of 2009, it was working well for my hair but not for my scalp. I've been having an itchy scalp and I also have some bumps on my scalp. I thought its just my scalp getting adjusted, but its been 3+ months and I still have some of those bumps. I've been doing some research and I think its clogged hair follicles. Probably from the sweat and dirt and so on. I don't think conditioner washing is strong enough to get rid of that stuff.

    So, I've decided to use a low-poo every week or so. I just bought the giovanni tea tree triple treat shampoo.

    What do you guys think about this whole issue?

    I don't usually post but I had to on this subject because I've had LOTS of experience.
    I know what you are talking about. I experienced something similar to what this last summer when I was playing sports outside in the heat and also working at my college's community garden: sweating for hours and CG just didn't mix for me. I didn't have scalp bumps so much as massive amounts of greasy, white buildup and dandruff.
    Co-washing daily, brown sugar scrubs, ACV rinses, lemon juice, tea tree oil, none of it really worked for me. Finally, after being CG for five months with all that nasty dandruff, I low pooed. My hair didn't like it : ( but my scalp did.
    I'd say low poo. Don't be surprised if the first time you do it, you still have the gross scalp. I had to do it several times over several days. Eventually I wound up washing with sulfates, but it was just because I was really grossed out by what my scalp had become.
    You might not have to.
    I still have to low poo because the dandruff, itchiness and buildup flare up after a while with me no matter what (although I am still really active).
    Good luck!

    Exactly, I think my hair liked strict CG but my scalp didn't. This is not good because a healthy scalp is essential for healthy hair. (I sound like a head & shoulders commercial)

    So, you shampooed multiple times initially and you slowly cut back eventually?
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  • TooSenseTooSense Posts: 229Registered Users
    I'm very active as well--I work out 10-12 hours per week, including about an hour of cardio every morning.

    I just use Johnson & Johson twice a week (Sundays & Thursdays, not that I'm a creature of habit or anything). It's gentle, sulfate free & seems to be a decent cleanser.

    I'm 41, I've been CG for about a year now & my hair is as thick & healthy as ever.
  • jerseygirl07067jerseygirl07067 Posts: 296Registered Users
    Hi Curlylion - yeah I think sometimes you have to do what's best for you. When I am really active I can still CO wash, but every so often I feel the need for a nice shampoo to really clean my scalp. You could try the low poo, or a sulfate poo, but still coat your midshaft and ends with conditioner to protect the hair.

    Also, the suggestion one of the posters made about the sugar scrub may work too. Once in a while if my scalp gets itchy, I just take a palmful of brown sugar and scrub my scalp with it. It think of it as exfoliation for the scalp and it feels so good!


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  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    curlylion wrote: »
    I would like to thank you all for scaring the hell out of me with this whole baldness talk. lol

    I know this forum is bias towards CG, but I didn't know people will say that I'm balding (without seeing me) before questioning CG. haha I didn't take any offense, its just funny that's all.

    With all that being said, I love CG too but my scalp doesnt.

    If it was just the thinning hair without the itchy, flaky scalp with bumps, I might agree with y'all and say that it might be balding. So, I really don't think its balding.

    I gave CG 3 months, so I'm gonna give low-poo 3 months too and see if I see any improvement before consulting the doctor.

    :laughing3: Sorry! Didn't mean to skeer you, LOL.

    As I kept saying, I imagine CG's probably all it is, but I just wouldn't let it go on indefinitely if there's not an improvement in the thinning fairly soon after you go back to washing.

    I was losing hair myself a couple of years ago due to hormones, prescription drugs or something yet undetermined - seemed to have both breakage and shedding all of a sudden. Cutting out harsh sulfates and going modified CG has helped as much as anything. Tried straight CG for a couple of weeks but had to go back to washing for my scalp, too. Had never heard of Giovanni at all until here. Tried the GTTTT and have never looked back. Hair's filled back in and scalp's healthier than it was with medicated shampoos, even prescription shampoos. Henna/cassia has helped strengthen it, too, so I'm not getting any breakage, though I doubt that's a problem for a young guy like you.

    :farao: Good luck, King of Denial . . . Kidding!
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • bethmeglobethmeglo Posts: 49Registered Users
    TooSense wrote: »
    I'm very active as well--I work out 10-12 hours per week, including about an hour of cardio every morning.

    I just use Johnson & Johson twice a week (Sundays & Thursdays, not that I'm a creature of habit or anything). It's gentle, sulfate free & seems to be a decent cleanser.

    I'm 41, I've been CG for about a year now & my hair is as thick & healthy as ever.

    Johnson and Johnson? As in baby shampoo? The big classic orangy/yellow bottle? Or is this something different?
    2C BSL hair and lots of it!
    Cheap and low-maintenance are my two favorite words!
  • TooSenseTooSense Posts: 229Registered Users
    bethmeglo wrote: »
    TooSense wrote: »
    I'm very active as well--I work out 10-12 hours per week, including about an hour of cardio every morning.

    I just use Johnson & Johson twice a week (Sundays & Thursdays, not that I'm a creature of habit or anything). It's gentle, sulfate free & seems to be a decent cleanser.

    I'm 41, I've been CG for about a year now & my hair is as thick & healthy as ever.

    Johnson and Johnson? As in baby shampoo? The big classic orangy/yellow bottle? Or is this something different?

    Yep, the baby shampoo. I don't know that the ingredients are all that different, when I started CG I used the original, but then discovered there's a J&J for curly hair. It's green, if that helps. :smile:
  • bethmeglobethmeglo Posts: 49Registered Users
    TooSense wrote: »
    bethmeglo wrote: »
    TooSense wrote: »
    I'm very active as well--I work out 10-12 hours per week, including about an hour of cardio every morning.

    I just use Johnson & Johson twice a week (Sundays & Thursdays, not that I'm a creature of habit or anything). It's gentle, sulfate free & seems to be a decent cleanser.

    I'm 41, I've been CG for about a year now & my hair is as thick & healthy as ever.

    Johnson and Johnson? As in baby shampoo? The big classic orangy/yellow bottle? Or is this something different?

    Yep, the baby shampoo. I don't know that the ingredients are all that different, when I started CG I used the original, but then discovered there's a J&J for curly hair. It's green, if that helps. :smile:

    Interesting! I thought I read that it had SLS, but I just checked and apparently it has coco...betaine. Is it really gentle and doesn't make your hair feel stripped? I might have to pick some up.
    2C BSL hair and lots of it!
    Cheap and low-maintenance are my two favorite words!
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