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your favorite spray detangler

subbrocksubbrock Posts: 8,212Registered Users
im in search of a new spray detangler for the munchkin. we currently use loreal kids and even though it works really well it has a cone in it. that isnt so bad because her shampoo is a low poo, but id really like to make the switch to something CG. i tried kiss my face's spray detangler and it was horrible--didnt detangle and left her hair feeling dry, crunchy and hard.

i was thinking about trying the one from circle of friends (anyone tried it?) but id like to hear what works well for your kids!

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  • madhuri_dixit_fanmadhuri_dixit_fan Posts: 310Registered Users
    I'd love to hear from other parents of curlies about a spray on detangler, too!!!!11!!! I have been searching for about 7 years for one without cones, bad chemis, horrible fragrances and that actual works. I mix up Trader Joe's Nourish Spa with infused water, aloe vera gel, and oils, but have to buy many different things and it gunks up those cheapie spray bottles, lol. While I don't have any good recommendations, so far I know that the ones below are TOTAL CRAP:

    []Kiss My Face Obsessively Natural Kids Detangler--created more tangles, gummed up hair, left hair ashen

    []California Baby Detangler--created more tangles, gummed up hair, left hair ashen, smelled bad

    And one I tried on my own hair...and immediately threw at the trash can, as I couldn't subject anyone else to such horrible stuff:

    []Just For Me 2n1 Detangler & Conditioner--bad ingredients (just realized it's from a kiddie relaxer company for pete's sake, lol), smelled like the fakest lemony stuff, triggered my allergies and a migrane, gummed up hair so bad that my hair strands seemed to fuse together into unstoppable world destroying tangles, awful coating of hair, I'm suspicious that this stuff could actually alter your hair texture, lol...
    RIP Natasha Richardson

    Holy Grails: Alba Botanica Leave-In Conditioner, AVG, EVO Coconut Oil, Amla Oil, KC Spiral Spritz, Brahmi Oil, Tea Tree eo, Rosemary eo, Distilled H2O, Aloe Vera Juice, Neem Oil, ACV, Dr. Bonner's Skikakai Castile Soap, Avocado Oil

    Sometimes: AOMM Jelly, KCNT, KCCC
  • mumofcurlygirlmumofcurlygirl Posts: 472Registered Users
    Hi Subbrock :toothy8:

    I've been using the California Baby detangler for a few days now and I actually like it!
    I don't use it on her wet hair as I detangle with conditioner but I do like it for when I'm styling her hair on a morning for school, I spray a bit on then use my wide tooth comb to tie it in pigtails, braids ect it detangles quite well and doesnt make her hair sticky or producty, I will try it in her wet hair tomorrow and let you know

    Oh and the Calming Conditioner is good but not quite moisturising enough for her thirsty hair (her hair loves KBB milk and Biolage) so I'm going to use it as a leave in or possibly on my older daughters hair :iconbiggrin:
    Trying to work out my 5 year olds 2c fine frizzy/curly hair

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  • madhuri_dixit_fanmadhuri_dixit_fan Posts: 310Registered Users
    I don't use it on her wet hair as I detangle with conditioner but I do like it for when I'm styling her hair on a morning for school, I spray a bit on then use my wide tooth comb to tie it in pigtails, braids ect it detangles quite well and doesnt make her hair sticky or producty, I will try it in her wet hair tomorrow and let you know

    subbrock, very sorry for question hyjacking, but...

    mumofcurlygirl,to use up the California Baby Detangler, I used little bit as a final quick spray before going out since it reports to have tiny bit of natural sunscreens. But, I didn't manipulate my kids' hair one bit after spraying it on. With how you used it--as in still able to manipulate your daughter's hair afterwards--did your daughter have any other products in her hair? Just totally dry hair? Did you work the detangler in with hands/wide tooth comb or let it sit a while before styling?

    Really wished it or Kiss My Face worked for us because they have great ingredients. Think Kiss My Face didn't work because of the Witch Hazel = instant poofy volume. Can't figure out why California Baby didn't work for us...
    RIP Natasha Richardson

    Holy Grails: Alba Botanica Leave-In Conditioner, AVG, EVO Coconut Oil, Amla Oil, KC Spiral Spritz, Brahmi Oil, Tea Tree eo, Rosemary eo, Distilled H2O, Aloe Vera Juice, Neem Oil, ACV, Dr. Bonner's Skikakai Castile Soap, Avocado Oil

    Sometimes: AOMM Jelly, KCNT, KCCC
  • mumofcurlygirlmumofcurlygirl Posts: 472Registered Users
    I don't use it on her wet hair as I detangle with conditioner but I do like it for when I'm styling her hair on a morning for school, I spray a bit on then use my wide tooth comb to tie it in pigtails, braids ect it detangles quite well and doesnt make her hair sticky or producty, I will try it in her wet hair tomorrow and let you know

    subbrock, very sorry for question hyjacking, but...

    mumofcurlygirl,to use up the California Baby Detangler, I had been using little bit as a final quick spray before going out in the sun since it reports to have tiny bit of natural sunscreens. But, I didn't manipulate my kids' hair one bit after spraying it on.

    With how you used it--as in still able to manipulate your daughter's hair afterwards--did your daughter have any other products in her hair? Just totally dry hair?

    Really wished it or Kiss My Face worked for us because they have great ingredients. Think Kiss My Face didn't work because of the Witch Hazel = instant poofy volume. Can't figure out why California Baby doesn't work as a detangler for us...

    Hi madhuri_dixit_fan :toothy8:

    I used it on dry hair, the only products I use on her hair is leave in (hae been experimenting with [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] but not at this time) I was able to comb through when I sprayed it on but I didnt really try to manipulate it afterwards as I just leave it in pigtails/braids all day, I think it also controlled her frizzy flyaways quite well as normally within about an hour she has these around the front of her head sides ect (you'll know what I mean!) and with this detangler I noticed that she had less, hope this helps!

    Oh I used to love Original little Sprout detangler but can't use it now due to cones :evil: before CG I used it on her all the time, it melted her tangles, I'm quite tempted to go back to it some days!
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  • subbrocksubbrock Posts: 8,212Registered Users
    i forgot to mention that i would only be using the detangler on her dry hair. i use them like you do momofcurlygirl, just as a refresher.

    im glad to see someone else hated the detangler by kiss my face! apparently other people hated it as well because when i bought it it was on clearance and i havent seen another bottle since.
  • NalliaNallia Posts: 2,979Registered Users
    I loved the Little Sprout line and used their spray detangler on my daughter's hair. I'm a little sad now because since starting CG I've been looking through the ingredients in my kids' hair products and noticed it has silicone in it:

    Ingredients: Floral Waters Infused with Organic Rosemary (Rosmarinus Officinalis), Organic Sage (Salvia Officinalis), Organic Basil (Ocimum Basilcum), Organic Chamomile, Organic Recutita (Matricana), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Vitamin E, Calendula Flowers, Linseed Extract, Gentle Moisturizer (Cyclo/Amo/Dimethicone), Cetearyl Alcohol from Coconut Oil, Cetrimonium Chloride Salts, Mild Conditioner Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Anti-Buildup (Trideceth-12), Non-Drying Emulsifier SD Alcohol 40-B, Vitamin B-5 (Panthenol ), Trideceth-9, Peg-5 (Moisturizer), Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose Cellulose/Plants, Non Paraben Preservatives (Methylisothiazolinone/chloro/Sodium Benzoate), Phthalate Free Fragrance

    So now I want to find something else too! I'll look into the California Baby line now. Thanks!
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  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
    Fuzzy Duck is good. I only use it on dry hair, and it always works. It's from Mop Top's kids line.
  • madhuri_dixit_fanmadhuri_dixit_fan Posts: 310Registered Users
    I must try California Baby Detangler on dry hair to see if that makes all the difference. But, I'm not going to give the other two detanglers I tried second chances, lol.
    RIP Natasha Richardson

    Holy Grails: Alba Botanica Leave-In Conditioner, AVG, EVO Coconut Oil, Amla Oil, KC Spiral Spritz, Brahmi Oil, Tea Tree eo, Rosemary eo, Distilled H2O, Aloe Vera Juice, Neem Oil, ACV, Dr. Bonner's Skikakai Castile Soap, Avocado Oil

    Sometimes: AOMM Jelly, KCNT, KCCC
  • subbrocksubbrock Posts: 8,212Registered Users
    I must try California Baby Detangler on dry hair to see if that makes all the difference. But, I'm not going to give the other two detanglers I tried second chances, lol.

    i finally poured my kiss my face detangler down the drain last night. its that bad!
  • madhuri_dixit_fanmadhuri_dixit_fan Posts: 310Registered Users
    subbrock wrote: »
    I must try California Baby Detangler on dry hair to see if that makes all the difference. But, I'm not going to give the other two detanglers I tried second chances, lol.

    i finally poured my kiss my face detangler down the drain last night. its that bad!

    So true! I think the only thing it's good for is giving you poofed up scary hair for Halloween. But, even then the nightmare of detangling the dry, gummy tangles it creates is incentive enough to stick with costume wigs, lol.
    RIP Natasha Richardson

    Holy Grails: Alba Botanica Leave-In Conditioner, AVG, EVO Coconut Oil, Amla Oil, KC Spiral Spritz, Brahmi Oil, Tea Tree eo, Rosemary eo, Distilled H2O, Aloe Vera Juice, Neem Oil, ACV, Dr. Bonner's Skikakai Castile Soap, Avocado Oil

    Sometimes: AOMM Jelly, KCNT, KCCC
  • brown_eyedgal20brown_eyedgal20 Posts: 412Registered Users
    I also need a good detangler for my daughter's hair...not cg but I have been using johnson and johnson on her dry hair in the mornings, not good...

    And she has a really tender head...poor kid...

    Any suggestions? I tried that Loreal stuff too, didn't work either.
    2c/3aMiii

    Loving JC and CK products...:) Been loving them for 3 years...looking to branch out and try new things!!!
  • throcklesthrockles Posts: 6Registered Users
    Well, I probably make things too complicated. First I spray her 3b/c with some 4 in the back hair with lavender water to get it damp. Then I spray the conditioning spray I made using only the Suave Naturals Coconut Conditioner and water. Then I comb through with a wide tooth comb. Finally, I add a spray gel that I made with the Giovanni LA Natural Styling Gel and water. I actually spray it into my hands, rub my hands together and scrunch in. I've been known to use this technique for second day curl in my own 2b/c hair, although I don't use a wide tooth comb and just finger comb. Okay, so we're trying to do CG on our budget... LOL
  • wannabewavywannabewavy Posts: 57Registered Users
    I use Suave Kids detangling spray on DD on both wet and dry hair. She has (best I can tell) 2a/2b with great potential for 3a hair.
    Grew up thinking I had straight hair that was just messy and in need of a good brushing.
    Discovered my true texture and transitioned to CG in April 2009.
    Now I'm a 2c/3a using the DevaCurl line, and I'm finally developing a deeper love for my hair!
  • midgimidgi Posts: 2,409Registered Users
    Just a suggestion, but why not make your own spray detangler by mixing a conditioner that you or your husband likes with water? Put more water than conditioner so that the conditioner doesn't harden up on her hair once it dries and you're good to go.
    I just want to do what I want to do when I want to do it.
  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe Posts: 15,402Registered Users
    I found something at Whole Foods called Twinlabs Na_PCA spray. It's basically aloe vera with NaPCA and some other stuff. It's not made for the hair; it's watery but very nice and moisturizing and detangling. [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curl-Junkie-Curl-Fuel-Curl-Enhancing-Spray-p-490.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=curl-junkie-curl-fuel-curl-enhancing-spray]Curl Junkie Curl Fuel[/buylink] is another one I like. I bet if you mixed KBB Hair Milke with water you would have a good detangler. I always mix a few pumps with whatever conditioner I'm using.
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  • subbrocksubbrock Posts: 8,212Registered Users
    i just bought rainbow detangler for kids at whole foods this past weekend and so far so good. i think the reason the kiss my face detangler didnt more harm than good was due to the aloe in it (2nd ingredient) and this one doesnt have aloe at all.

    im far too lazy to mix my own, plus we use [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Elucence-Moisture-Balancing-Conditioner-p-39.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=elucence-elucence-moisture-balancing-conditioner]elucence mb conditioner[/buylink] for ourselves and the protein is too much for her on a regular basis.
  • madhuri_dixit_fanmadhuri_dixit_fan Posts: 310Registered Users
    subbrock wrote: »
    i just bought rainbow detangler for kids at whole foods this past weekend and so far so good. i think the reason the kiss my face detangler didnt more harm than good was due to the aloe in it (2nd ingredient) and this one doesnt have aloe at all.

    im far too lazy to mix my own, plus we use [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Elucence-Moisture-Balancing-Conditioner-p-39.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=elucence-elucence-moisture-balancing-conditioner]elucence mb conditioner[/buylink] for ourselves and the protein is too much for her on a regular basis.

    Gotta see if mah local WFs carries that detangler. I also don't want to keep mixing up a spray b/c most of our condishes are either the Aubrey stuff (they don't detangle well enuf and can build up) or ones with light proteins like soy (not game on using them often to detangle long hair).
    RIP Natasha Richardson

    Holy Grails: Alba Botanica Leave-In Conditioner, AVG, EVO Coconut Oil, Amla Oil, KC Spiral Spritz, Brahmi Oil, Tea Tree eo, Rosemary eo, Distilled H2O, Aloe Vera Juice, Neem Oil, ACV, Dr. Bonner's Skikakai Castile Soap, Avocado Oil

    Sometimes: AOMM Jelly, KCNT, KCCC
  • HropkeyHropkey Posts: 572Registered Users
    Suave kids detangler is cg, and it was basically exclusively what my family used on my hair when I was litle.
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  • madhuri_dixit_fanmadhuri_dixit_fan Posts: 310Registered Users
    My Indo-Trini cousin's visiting on her way to Toronto. Since I am in total love with her hair, she offered to do my daughters' hair over the weekend. Wouldn't you know it--she was able to use both the 'demon' detanglers, California Baby Detangler and Kiss My Face, on my kids hair without problems. I was shocked.

    You guys were right about using California Baby on dry hair!! Thanks for that tip. My cousin also told me not to use those detanglers as I would a homemade conditioner-detangler spray where you spray whole sections and then detangle in sections. She only used those detanglers on the actual knots/tough tangles themselves, and then used a spray leave-in conditioner to finish styling whole head of hair and to moiturize. Geez, I feel like an idiot now...:dj:

    So, I'm likely going to use the Kiss My Face and California Baby detanglers until they're gone rather than throw them out, but only repurchase the California Baby Detangler.
    RIP Natasha Richardson

    Holy Grails: Alba Botanica Leave-In Conditioner, AVG, EVO Coconut Oil, Amla Oil, KC Spiral Spritz, Brahmi Oil, Tea Tree eo, Rosemary eo, Distilled H2O, Aloe Vera Juice, Neem Oil, ACV, Dr. Bonner's Skikakai Castile Soap, Avocado Oil

    Sometimes: AOMM Jelly, KCNT, KCCC
  • subbrocksubbrock Posts: 8,212Registered Users
    where do you guys get the california baby detangler? i cant find it at target or whole foods.
  • madhuri_dixit_fanmadhuri_dixit_fan Posts: 310Registered Users
    subbrock wrote: »
    where do you guys get the california baby detangler? i cant find it at target or whole foods.

    I have only found the california baby detangler at my local whole foods. But, if your whole foods carries any other california baby products, then they def should be able to special order the detangler for you at no charge for the special ordering. I have to special order most my Aubrey's stuff as my local whole foods carries island naturals but not honeysuckle rose, white camellia or the madarin jelly.
    RIP Natasha Richardson

    Holy Grails: Alba Botanica Leave-In Conditioner, AVG, EVO Coconut Oil, Amla Oil, KC Spiral Spritz, Brahmi Oil, Tea Tree eo, Rosemary eo, Distilled H2O, Aloe Vera Juice, Neem Oil, ACV, Dr. Bonner's Skikakai Castile Soap, Avocado Oil

    Sometimes: AOMM Jelly, KCNT, KCCC
  • madhuri_dixit_fanmadhuri_dixit_fan Posts: 310Registered Users
    Found real Mayo to be the perfect product for dry finger detangling. Helped unravel my little cousins' matted hair roots and knots. I only do this as a pre-wash and on dry hair. I lightly coat my fingers in mayo, very light coating to were there is a thin oil film presence but no whiteness and no greasiness, and then I proceed to finger detangle. When I come across a nasty knot or mess of tangles or matted roots I take small amount of mayo, gently massage it into the hair and then gently massage out the knot or tangle. Then, I twist up that hair section. After detangling, I proceed with our wash method.

    I basically found that I cannot detangle on wet hair with condish or with detangling sprays (as none of the sprays worked as well I needed them to work, tho eventually I could use them on dry hair). Detangling with condish made our hair way too curly and ends would tangle more. So, I just do the conditioner as part of the styling step when I want the curls to pop.
    RIP Natasha Richardson

    Holy Grails: Alba Botanica Leave-In Conditioner, AVG, EVO Coconut Oil, Amla Oil, KC Spiral Spritz, Brahmi Oil, Tea Tree eo, Rosemary eo, Distilled H2O, Aloe Vera Juice, Neem Oil, ACV, Dr. Bonner's Skikakai Castile Soap, Avocado Oil

    Sometimes: AOMM Jelly, KCNT, KCCC
  • hairy situationhairy situation Posts: 56Registered Users
    Since detanglers seem to be mostly cones, can you adjust your technique to avoid detangling?

    I don't ever detangle DD's hair unless I'm co-washing it. I admit, it's braided nearly all the time, which makes life easier. My DD has a ton of hair, and it doesn't much like being handled. But, I did recently try the technique discussed in detail on the tightlycurly.com website and I was surprised by how well it worked on my DD's very shrinky 4A hair. In addition to using much heavier conditioners than I had tried, she suggests separating each curl out and pulling it between your fingers and thumb. This seals each curl, for want of a better description, and I was astonished by how this kept her hair basically detangled for a full week. The curls minded their own business and didn't go looking for trouble! My DD's curls are much tighter and shrinkier than the person who made the site, but the techniques worked just as well.

    Of course, all hair is different, and while my DD's hair is very tightly curled and shrinky, it doesn't do stuff like mat from the roots. This might not work for everyone, but could be worth a try!
  • kc02917kc02917 Posts: 42Registered Users
    midgi wrote: »
    Just a suggestion, but why not make your own spray detangler by mixing a conditioner that you or your husband likes with water? Put more water than conditioner so that the conditioner doesn't harden up on her hair once it dries and you're good to go.

    YES! I do this and its great! I actually use my suave cowash and water it down. I do apply on dampened hair. I feel like it gets through better and she gets better curl formation when I mist it with water first.
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