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Thick Conditioner Needed for Henna Glosses

WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
:?: I'm looking for a thick, inexpensive, oil-free conditioner to use as a base for henna/indigo glosses. Something about the consistency of AOHR but less costly because I'll be using more than a cup at a time. And without the oil because it can keep the slight amount of color I'm trying to deposit from "taking".

I could make thick flax seed gel or other homemade mediums, but I'm lazy and impulsive so I'd like to find something I can just have on hand, ready to go when I have the time and the urge.

Any suggestions? :dontknow:
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett

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  • morrighumorrighu Posts: 707Registered Users
    What about the 100% pure AVG from CVS??? $3.99 for the "family size"...
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    No, I've already tried that - once I add the henna and indigo and stir or shake it up, it breaks down and gets all watery. I'd have thought it'd be ideal.

    Thanks, though!
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    Bump! Got lost again when it didn't show up in New Posts - let's see if it does this time - I still need some suggestions, please!
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • brdudeonbrdudeon Posts: 66Registered Users
    What about Tigi Moisture Maniac? It's pretty thick. I pay $20 for it in the grocery store, but the bottle is about 3 times the size of AOHR.
    Lots of medium to fine, extremely porous and color damaged hair.
    Suave Tropical Coconut for co-wash
    Bed Head Tigi Moisture Maniac
    FX Curl Booster Fixative Gel
    Gel

    CG since November 2007
    Slowly growing out the color damaged hair. I'm halfway there!!:p
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    Nah, I already have some, and it's not as thick as what I'm looking for. Thanks, though.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • jillipoojillipoo Posts: 3,795Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Hmmm. A challenge! How about:

    Any Suave Naturals conditioner
    EO Rose and Chamomille (surprisingly thick)
    Activate Hydrating (if you can find it)
    3a and strictly CG since August 2007. Porous and on the fine side. No to magnesium sulfate and glycerin. Yes to protein! Favorites:
    CO-WASHES: Suave Coconut
    CONDITIONERS and LEAVE-INS: Mop Top Daily Conditioner, KBB Nectar, Aubrey GPB or Island Naturals, Robert Craig, Any Jessicurl
    CURL ENHANCERS/CREMES/MOUSSES: KCCC, JoiWhip
    GELS: Fuzzy Duck, B5 Design, MGA Scultping, BRHG


    Fotki password: chuckle
    Blog: /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fjillipoo.blogspot.com%2F" class="Popup
    Twitter: nopoojillipoo
  • sunnisunni Posts: 45Registered Users
    How about BioInfusions Balm (about 5.00), it is a knockoff of the Matrix one and is pretty thick. You can find it at Walgreens.
    Sunni -
    Reading for daughter's 2b/3a fii curly hair care. Mine is stick straight (wishing for curls).
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fsunnicurl%2F" class="Popup

    We currently use KCKT, Curl Junkie LI & Curls in a Bottle

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    BioInfusion or GVP conditioning balm are my best bets so far - they're thick enough, but I was hoping someone knew of a particular Suave, VO5 or similarly priced one. However, these type balms may be as cheap as I can get and have it suit my "needs" otherwise.

    Suave Coconut and Ocean Breeze are the only Suave ones I've used, and they're not thick enough. Of the two, I prefer OB because it's completely oil-free.

    Thanks for all the ideas! Jillipoo, will look into the rose & chamomile and Activate.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • cynreycynrey Posts: 82Registered Users
    The VO5 passion fruit smoothie is pretty thick- and it's cheap. Smells good too!!!
    2c-3a , fine
    Low poo: Kinky Curly Come Clean, Elucence
    Co wash- VO5 passion fruit smoothie
    Condish: Generic Biolage Conditioning Balm , CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
    Leave in: CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Beauticurls
    Stylers: KCCC, Re:Coil, RR, CJCC, Curls Rock
    Gel: Pantene Curls, BRHG
    DT: CJ Curl Rehab, Mop Top, Nuetrogena


    Dry Climate
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    Ooo, I'll have to check it out - thanks, cynrey!
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • tonsofcurlztonsofcurlz Posts: 323Registered Users
    Don't know if this is oil-free since I don't have the ingredients in front of me but if you have a Trader Joe's nearby, the thickest cheap conditioner I've used is Trader Joe's Nourish. It's $2.99 for 16oz and has great slip! Much better for me than the Suave and V05 conditioners.
    3b, fine texture, low to normal porosity
    Low Poos:
    MOP C Hydrating, JC HCC, Ion Swimmer's Poo
    Condish: GVP Balm, Kenra, Tigi Oatmeal/Honey, DE Coconut
    Leave-In: BWC, Abba Gentle, KBB Nectar, GFTN
    Stylers: CJ AF/CIAB, SS CEJ/FHG, QCCC, Komaza Puddings, EW SAJ or Alba Soft Curl w/KKSS, Kenra, Homemade FSG, AOMM, CK/QB HTSG

    Save $5 off your first order at /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iherb.com" class="Popup. Use discount code: SOF540.
  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users
    Lustrasilk Shea Mango?? It's cheap and it's thicker then the Olive Oil one.
    Discovered CG 2007

    2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

    Link-Spritz & Condish Washing:glasses7:

    I'm aCurlJunkieJunky :love4:

    My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars :tongue6:


    CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    No TJ's here - wish there was!

    Have been wanting to try Lustrasilk anyway, so I'll check it out, too.

    Thanks all - have a few options now, so maybe one will work.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • tendrillytendrilly Posts: 183Registered Users
    I second the recommendation for Lustrasilk Shea Mango. It works amazingly well -- and I like it all the better because the huge 20 oz. tub costs less than $3!
    Dry climate
    2C/3A, fine texture, high porosity, medium-low density

    For me, desert climate+porous hair+CG=inconsistent results! :-(
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    For what I'm using it for, it's the thickness and price I'm more concerned with than with the conditioning, but I am planning on giving the Lustrasilk a try. Also, I was reminded that we DO now have Trader Joe's here, so I'm also going to pick up some TJ Nourish. Surely one of these ya'll have suggested will do the trick - Thanks!
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • BoomygrrlBoomygrrl Posts: 4,940Registered Users
    Well, then the Mango Lustrasilk may be for you...it's thick and I don't think it's too moisturizing...at least not for me.
    That's right, I said it! I wear scrunchies!!

    I am a sulfate washing, cone slabbing, curly lovin' s.o.b. The CG police haven't caught me yet.
    :blob8:

    3a/3b
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    Just an update in case anyone else is still looking for such a conditioner - the two best I've found are the Biolage conditioning balm knock-offs and, surprisingly, at least to me, L'Oreal Pro Vive Nutri Gloss for long to medium hair that's curly or wavy.

    I like the Aldi "Shique" version of the Biolage because it's only $2.98 for a 16 oz. bottle - GVP and BioInfusion versions are a little more expensive. I like the way it makes my hair feel better than the LVNPG, and I like that it has no oil but, although it's quite thick, it does have enough liquid seep out that I have to keep paper towels handy for blotting.

    I tried the LPVNG Sunday because I had bought three bottles when they were 3/$9 but didn't end up particularly caring for it as a regular conditioner. I noticed the other day that it was fairly thick so thought it might work for glosses, putting it to good use after all. Sure enough, it worked like a charm although it does have a little oil in it - the oil didn't seem to affect the indigo's performance. It actually had almost no water seep out of it, so it's the best by far in that repect. It's a little pricey for this purpose unless you find it on a good sale as I did because of the quantity you use at a time - about 2/3 of the 15 oz. bottle for me.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    I used the LVNPG again yesterday for a henna/indigo gloss, and I actually quite like it for this purpose. It doesn't seem that much thicker than other conditioners, but I have no water seep out of it like I have with everything else I've tried. I can just put a plastic cap over it and I'm done - not cotton roping needed to absorb drips, not blotting necessary. It's the least messy medium I've found.

    I've used half a bottle each time, and since I had bought 3/$9, that's not bad at all.

    I don't particularly care for the fragrance or how my hair performs afterward with it, so I just wash it out afterwards and condition with something I do like.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett

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