Good CG gels for Clumping & definition

curly01curly01 Posts: 284Registered Users Curl Neophyte
I haven't had any luck at all with puddings, creams or leave-ins :scratch:

My hair seems to respond best to gels.
I'm looking for any suggestions for CG gels that can stand alone for definition, clumping and good hold.
I prefer to start out a little crunchy and then scrunch when dry. If I don't start out with some crunch, I always end up with frizz.
I just use my hands, w/o product, to scrunch.

Thanks for the help!

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  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    It would probably help to know a little more about your hair and what products you've tried. Maybe a picture? Here are a few suggestions without knowing much. While [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] isn't technically a gel, it has that type of consistency. Have you tried it? The [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curl-Junkie-Curl-Assurance-Aloe-Fix-Hair-Styling-Gel-p-941.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=Curl-Junkie-Curl-Assurance-Aloe-Fix-Hair-Styling-Gel]CJ Aloe Fix[/buylink] or Smoothing Gellie might work for you, too.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • medusahairmedusahair Posts: 3,515Registered Users
    I like herbal essence body envy gel for clumping. I get great clumps with that. The less I "rake" through products and the more I just scrunch it in the bigger clumps I get.
    Kiss my face Upper management gel clumps me really well too.

    Those both dry crunchy but I just SOTC

    Happy hunting for the perfect gel!
    2c/3a?
    Low porosity, medium texture.
    http://public.fotki.com/Medusahair/

    If it smells good put it in your hair, if it tastes good spit it out!
  • melaniesusanmelaniesusan Posts: 948Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    The Ouidad climate control gel works well for clumping, and helps fight frizz. I think it's CG. Ouidad recently changed her other products (some for the worse), but not this one.

    I use HESMU (herbal essences set me up gel) for hold on top of a curl pudding, but it also increases curl, so depending on your hair type this might work on its own.

    I like both BRHG and the Giovanni gel for hold - just SOTC once it's dry - but I'm not sure how much clumping they give. I've never tried them on their own.
    hair type: 2B/3A
    low poo: Elucence moisture; Elucence clarifying (after swimming)
    condish: CJ smoothing; CJ argan; CJ repair me; CJ curl rehab
    winter/spring styling: CJ Beauticurls leave-in + Curly Kinks coil jam + Ouidad mongongo oil; or CJ leave-in + SpiralSolutions CEJ & FHG
    summer/fall styling: CJ CCCC lite + CIAB + Curl Queen
    http://members.fotki.com/melaniesusan/ pw = 3ahair
  • melaniesusanmelaniesusan Posts: 948Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Also, [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/DevaCurl-Angell-p-57.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=devacurl-devacurl-angell]DevaCurl AnGel[/buylink]l is a light gel that provides good clumping. Personally, I get best results from a curl cream or pudding, but Deva does exceptionally well for just a gel. It contains an a-cone, but that washes out with Deva's low poo shampoo.

    [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/DevaCurl-Angell-p-57.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=devacurl-devacurl-angell]DevaCurl AnGel[/buylink]l Ingredients: Aqueous extracts of aachilea millefolium, chamomilla recutita (matricaria), cymbopogan schoenathus, hops, balm mint, rosemary, PVP/VA copolymer, polyquartnium-7, PEG-40 hydrogenated castor oil, DMDM hydantoin, PEG-7 amodimethicone, carbomer, sodium hydroxide, fragrance

    I haven't tried Deva's other gel, Arc AnGell, but I've heard it has more hold than the AnGell.

    [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/DevaCare-Arc-AnGell-p-567.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=devacurl-devacare-arc-angell]DevaCare Arc AnGell[/buylink] Ingredients: Aqueous extracts of: Achilea millefolium, chamomilla recutita (matricaria), cymbopogon, schoenanthus, humulus lupulus (hops), melissa offcinalis (balm mint), rosmarinus offcinalis (rosemary), citrus aurantium dulcis (orange) peel, pvp/va copolymer, glycerin, PEG-7 glyceryl cocoate, PEG-40 hydrogenated castor oil, acrylates/c10-30 alkyl acrylate crosspolymer, phenoxyethanol, methyldibromo glutaronitrile, sodium hydroxide, frangrance, red 40, yellow 5.
    hair type: 2B/3A
    low poo: Elucence moisture; Elucence clarifying (after swimming)
    condish: CJ smoothing; CJ argan; CJ repair me; CJ curl rehab
    winter/spring styling: CJ Beauticurls leave-in + Curly Kinks coil jam + Ouidad mongongo oil; or CJ leave-in + SpiralSolutions CEJ & FHG
    summer/fall styling: CJ CCCC lite + CIAB + Curl Queen
    http://members.fotki.com/melaniesusan/ pw = 3ahair
  • melaniesusanmelaniesusan Posts: 948Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I keep remembering things I forgot to post earlier!

    I haven't tried it yet, but a lot of people have had very good luck with homemade flax seed gel. There are several recipes on the nc.com website, or you can order some from BotticelliBabe. Many people swear by her version. You can choose just plain FSG, or she can add various oils, honey, agave, and/or a small amount of mag sulfate (for curl enhancement). It's the only styling product BB uses on her hair, and she has great curls.

    The relevant thread is:

    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?t=66811
    hair type: 2B/3A
    low poo: Elucence moisture; Elucence clarifying (after swimming)
    condish: CJ smoothing; CJ argan; CJ repair me; CJ curl rehab
    winter/spring styling: CJ Beauticurls leave-in + Curly Kinks coil jam + Ouidad mongongo oil; or CJ leave-in + SpiralSolutions CEJ & FHG
    summer/fall styling: CJ CCCC lite + CIAB + Curl Queen
    http://members.fotki.com/melaniesusan/ pw = 3ahair
  • curly01curly01 Posts: 284Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Thanks so much for all of the help!
    I PM'd BB re: her FSG gel - so I think I'll give that a try. I don't usually have good results with products that get rave reviews here, but I'm always willing to try! The feedback for her FSG was overwhelmingly positive!

    Climate Control Gel isn't CG unfortunately (it's one of the few products that they haven't changed). It has a peg cone and dimethicone. It is pretty low down on the ingredient list, so that probably helps a little. Maybe they'll reformulate and actually make it CG! But since the new leave-in isn't CG, I'm guessing that avioding cones isn't a priority for their products.
  • rudeechickrudeechick Posts: 6,726Registered Users
    HESMU.
    Curls,Coils,Waves & WhatKnot:geek:
    3miii/My HGs tame bulk&frizz/Give definition w/o crunch
    My Photobucket Album
  • TaraVictoriaTaraVictoria Posts: 374Registered Users
    I have to agree with the flax seed gel by Botticelli - I too didn't believe, but I haven't even been on this board since I tried it! it's ALL I need! it's clumps and just leaves my hair so curly and no frizz - love it! can't say enough about it!!!!! GREAT stuff!!!
    I liked Deva and LA Looks before this stuff, they're "ok" now :)
    Tara - have a curly day!!!

    LA Looks Curl Gel, Sauve Naturals conditioners Waterlily, CK, Deva Archangel , LOOB (has its days)...
    Deva One - LOVE it!!!!!!!

    Botticelli's Flax Seed Hair Gel (a DIY!!!) THANKS Botticelli!!!!!!
    Curl Junkie Coffee Coco Creme (LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!)
    Shea Moisture Smoothie - GREAT stuff!

    :angel5::angel5:
    for the love of the lens...

    http://animafoto.smugmug.com/

    www.animafoto.wordpress.com

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