new with a question about FSG

Hi! New member, and have a question about FSG, which I've been experimenting with for the past couple days, with mixed results.
Anyway. If you make it withOUT a preservative (grapefruit seed extract or citric acid), how long will it keep in the fridge? Also, when it goes bad, how obvious is it---is the smell very distinct, or is there an art to telling it's no longer good?
Thank so much!!
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p.s. Has anyone else found variation due to seed brand or even water type? The first time I made the gel with well water and trader joe's seeds and got only a few thin, golden tablespoons. Today, I made it with city water and bob's seed and got a shampoo bottle's worth of nearly-clear gel that I had to thin out to strain...? Don't know which is more effective, since i haven't tried the new batch yet.
Again, thanks :color:
Anyway. If you make it withOUT a preservative (grapefruit seed extract or citric acid), how long will it keep in the fridge? Also, when it goes bad, how obvious is it---is the smell very distinct, or is there an art to telling it's no longer good?
Thank so much!!
:color: :flower: :color:
p.s. Has anyone else found variation due to seed brand or even water type? The first time I made the gel with well water and trader joe's seeds and got only a few thin, golden tablespoons. Today, I made it with city water and bob's seed and got a shampoo bottle's worth of nearly-clear gel that I had to thin out to strain...? Don't know which is more effective, since i haven't tried the new batch yet.
Again, thanks :color:
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-growing out pixie since may 07
-CG (w/ low-poos) since jan 09. may have just fallen off the wagon
-condition: every day. hg was samy escencia, but it's no longer in the US
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-cowash: occasionally. V05 naturals
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-mousse: HETT. hg!
-playing w/: HE gels, GF wonder wave spray, HE conditioners
-growing out pixie since may 07
-CG (w/ low-poos) since jan 09. may have just fallen off the wagon
-condition: every day. hg was samy escencia, but it's no longer in the US

-cowash: occasionally. V05 naturals
-lowpoo: weekly. samy escencia while it lasts
-mousse: HETT. hg!
-playing w/: HE gels, GF wonder wave spray, HE conditioners
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I'm not entirely sure, but I think it should be good for a couple of weeks if you keep it in the fridge. I don't know what happens when it goes bad, b/c that hasn't happened to me.
In terms of the water, I have noticed a HUGE difference in the water I have used to make it. I don't know if it's the water hardness or the pH, but when I use city water, which is very soft with a high pH, it's pretty much useless. When I use distilled water, which is neutral, it works great. You might want to try the distilled water - it's available at pharmacies and places like Target for a little over $1/gallon.:toothy7:HTH!
wash: alternate co-washing with V05 & soap bars
Rinse out: Rotate TJ's N&S, AOHR, LVPNG, GVP K-Pak, CJ CA Daily Condish
ACV rinses 2x/wk (high pH water)
LI: if I use one, it's usually CJ CALI CJ H&B LI, or GDLI
Styling: FSG with AVG, AN, hemp seed oil & slippery elm (winter only), KCCC, CJ CCCC, CJ SG, CJ AFG, AOMM & BRHG
Currently experimenting w/DM Miracurls CG & MM
-growing out pixie since may 07
-CG (w/ low-poos) since jan 09. may have just fallen off the wagon
-condition: every day. hg was samy escencia, but it's no longer in the US
-cowash: occasionally. V05 naturals
-lowpoo: weekly. samy escencia while it lasts
-mousse: HETT. hg!
-playing w/: HE gels, GF wonder wave spray, HE conditioners
COs: Yes to Cucumbers
Stylers: Miss Jessies Coily Custard, KCCC
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In my experience, the brown seeds make a better gel, but the golden ones make a gel with better hold. I recently started using a combo of the two also, and it seems to be working well!
wash: alternate co-washing with V05 & soap bars
Rinse out: Rotate TJ's N&S, AOHR, LVPNG, GVP K-Pak, CJ CA Daily Condish
ACV rinses 2x/wk (high pH water)
LI: if I use one, it's usually CJ CALI CJ H&B LI, or GDLI
Styling: FSG with AVG, AN, hemp seed oil & slippery elm (winter only), KCCC, CJ CCCC, CJ SG, CJ AFG, AOMM & BRHG
Currently experimenting w/DM Miracurls CG & MM