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LOOB - What's the trick?

So I just ran out of [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] and I thought I'd try LOOB in its place as my curl-enhancing-between-leave-in-and-gel-product. So far, I am not impressed. I scrunched in about two quarter-sized amounts after using GDLI. I put some of my old Biolage Gelee on top of it cause I'm trying to use that stuff up. My hair looked pretty shiny and well-defined at first (although with smaller clumps and flatter roots than I'm used to) and then it just started feeling frizzier and drier as the day wore on. My boyfriend even made a comment that my hair was looking a little flat and that he likes my hair better when it's "bouncier." What's the secret with this stuff? Should I be raking it in? How much should I use?

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  • masa_innmasa_inn Posts: 306Registered Users
    /prepares to take notes/

    I got an awesome hair day with LOOB, the one and only time. After that it's been giving me uber-frizz.

    I use it over l/in, under LA Looks. Scrunch it into dripping wet hair. I'd say, couple of finger scoops is enough for me, otherwise I feel too producty.

    Hopefully, someone else will chime in.
    Brunette, almost BSL length, growing out.
    CG since Feb 2008, modified CG since September 2008.

    I now know my texture/porosity!! (TY, Tiffany!) Medium texture; ends on a porous side; new growth - normal porosity.

    Wash: Suave; EO Sweet Orange shampoo

    Conditioner: GVP Balm, Mango Lustrasilk

    Styling: KCCC, BRHG and LA Looks

    Want to try: CJ
  • elissadelissad Posts: 268Registered Users
    LOOB gave me about a week of good results and then it just completely quit and made my hair poofy and quite big. Tried bringing it out of the product graveyard for a couple of days and my hair continued to not like it.

    [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] is a much better product and more natural, which my hair seems to love.
    mostly 3a/some 3b/2c at the nape
    med-coarse and porous
    Current routine:
    Cleansing: Co-wash with V05, JCCC
    Conditioners:AOHR
    Leave-in: KCKT
    Stylers: HESMU, Joiwhip
    Protein Treatment: Ion effective care treatment

  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    I didn't find LOOB to be anything special, either. Some things work and some don't. I can usually tell if there's any potential when I use a product. The "three strikes" rule doesn't always apply.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • ~GypsyCurls~~GypsyCurls~ Posts: 351Registered Users
    I was disappointed in it, especially hearing about so many on this board raving about it. I tried it at night actually, and after sleeping on it, it actually looked pretty good! Just a little bit of frizz and I had to go to work, so I got my hair a little wet and used a little more of the LOOB. I actually got a compliment on it from mys boss, she said my hair looked very romantic. :D I had also not combed it the night before, just with my hands so I had these full and bouncy curls that were defined. After that, my hair was really dry and frizzy, with a plastic-y feeling. I'm hoping I will find another way to use this product, otherwise it will be swapped or donated...
    2c/3a/3b curls, tailbone length, fairy tale ends
    Cleansers: V05 Co
    Conditioners: KMS Everyday, Dove Dry Oil Care

    DT/Treats:Aphogee Protein Treat/Hemp/Argan Oil
    Leave-ins/Stylers: All HE Condish, Generic PM The Conditioner






  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    I liked it last summer and fall but haven't used it since getting Boot's pink and [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink]. Since it was almost this short back then, I've been meaning to give it a go again since I got it cut off. If I can think to, I'll do it next time I wash and let you know what I did if I still get good results.

    ETA: Even then I had to alternate it with other products and not use it all the time. Those who use it apply it on wet hair, NOT as instructed on the jar. I often got better second and third day hair with it than first day. It liked having aloe water applied over it to refresh.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • aoedecmjaoedecmj Posts: 85Registered Users
    I find it works well in my rotation, though I've been forsaking it lately for my newest love, Boots.

    I don't think it's a good sub for [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] . . . I use it as a curl cream with [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink]. It's been really handy in the dry winter months, though I'll probably ditch it all together when the dews increase around here and I can start using my glycerin products again like [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/AG-Recoil-p-24.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=ag-hair-cosmetics-recoil-curl-activator]re:coil[/buylink] and bioterra curl cream.
    CG since 10/5/08
    Faux Red-head since 1997 - recent henna head
    3a/2b
    CoWash: Suave Naturals Tropical Coconut
    Conditioners: L'Oreal Vivre Pro Nutrigloss
    Winter Stylers: KCKT, KCCC, FOTE, BRHG, Boots
    Summer products I'm missing: CK, re:Coil, Tweek
    Techniques: single plop, pixiecurl diffuse

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  • ~GypsyCurls~~GypsyCurls~ Posts: 351Registered Users
    auntnett wrote: »
    ETA: Even then I had to alternate it with other products and not use it all the time. Those who use it apply it on wet hair, NOT as instructed on the jar. I often got better second and third day hair with it than first day. It liked having aloe water applied over it to refresh.

    I applied it to wet hair. I also later applied it to damp and dry hair to see if it made a difference. Aloe is not good in my hair either, for some reason.
    2c/3a/3b curls, tailbone length, fairy tale ends
    Cleansers: V05 Co
    Conditioners: KMS Everyday, Dove Dry Oil Care

    DT/Treats:Aphogee Protein Treat/Hemp/Argan Oil
    Leave-ins/Stylers: All HE Condish, Generic PM The Conditioner






  • rudeechickrudeechick Posts: 6,726Registered Users
    LOOB gave me great hair exactly once. After that it was DRYDRYDRY and frizzled - It is VERY drying. Took me a week or so for my hair to recover from it.
    Curls,Coils,Waves & WhatKnot:geek:
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  • masa_innmasa_inn Posts: 306Registered Users
    rudeechick wrote: »
    LOOB gave me great hair exactly once. After that it was DRYDRYDRY and frizzled - It is VERY drying. Took me a week or so for my hair to recover from it.

    I think you just pointed out a reason behind my mega-frizz. What did you do to help your hair after LOOB? I'm thinking DT...
    Brunette, almost BSL length, growing out.
    CG since Feb 2008, modified CG since September 2008.

    I now know my texture/porosity!! (TY, Tiffany!) Medium texture; ends on a porous side; new growth - normal porosity.

    Wash: Suave; EO Sweet Orange shampoo

    Conditioner: GVP Balm, Mango Lustrasilk

    Styling: KCCC, BRHG and LA Looks

    Want to try: CJ
  • curlykeycurlykey Posts: 1,540Registered Users
    I usually would put mousse in my hair and then I would rake in LOOB on top. I got really good results with this method. I have currently alternated to other products for now, but this combo always worked for me. I did not notice that it dried my hair out. HTH.
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  • sarahthewarriorsarahthewarrior Posts: 252Registered Users
    I guess I'm one of the only ones who has mad love for this product.

    Lizzle, is your hair the same length that it is in your avatar? If so, I think you're using too much. My hair is considerably longer than yours, and I use about a three-fingertip-sized glob. I would consider two quarter-sized globs too much for my hair.

    Do you emulsify it between your hands first? It won't change the consistency of the product (like Boots), but it will help evenly coat your hands for application. I always rake for better distribution, and then I scrunch in my gel on top. During the summer I used it with L.A. Looks Sport, but this winter I've been using La Bella Lots of Curls.

    As mentioned above, some people do have problems with it (I think it's the PEG-40 hydrogenated castor oil). I use it almost every time I shower, and I've never had any issues with frizz or dryness.
    Fine but dense 3B: naturally red, naturally curly
    CG since July 8, 2008!
    Co-Wash: Suave Wild Cherry Blossom Conditioner
    Rinse-Out: Giovanni TTTT Conditioner
    Leave-In: Suave Wild Cherry Blossom Conditioner
    Products: Clairol 3-in-1 Condition mousse with L.A. Looks Sport gel
    Fotki pw: curls Updated 9-4-09
  • xxmisschrisxxxxmisschrisxx Posts: 223Registered Users
    for me, it works best alone after a little condish was left in...
    --xxmisschrisxx
    3a since going CG!
    CG on 10/12/08. free of cones, sulfates, and shampoo! added shampoo bars 1/80/09.
    using:
    shampoo bars (wind blossom)
    condish - burts bees super shiny
    styling - confused and running out of products. TRYING LOOB!
    trying: tweek...barely.
    WAITING to try: Melting Gel...resisting the urge to become a PJ...kind of...
    Dislikes: molasses and CK :( so unfortunately...
  • rudeechickrudeechick Posts: 6,726Registered Users
    masa_inn wrote: »
    rudeechick wrote: »
    LOOB gave me great hair exactly once. After that it was DRYDRYDRY and frizzled - It is VERY drying. Took me a week or so for my hair to recover from it.

    I think you just pointed out a reason behind my mega-frizz. What did you do to help your hair after LOOB? I'm thinking DT...
    I did a low poo then had to DT a few times. But it bounced right back.
    Curls,Coils,Waves & WhatKnot:geek:
    3miii/My HGs tame bulk&frizz/Give definition w/o crunch
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  • werenumber2werenumber2 Posts: 260Registered Users
    I had to dump LOOB as well, and this was after going through nearly 2 full jars of it. I think even if you switch off on products and don't use it everyday, it will ultimately dry out your hair with longterm use.
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    3b/c fine corkscrews and spirals. Naked hair above.


    Wash: Elucence Moisture Balancing Shampoo
    Condish: Shescentit Avocado/Honey Rinse
    Moisture DT: Silk Dreams Vanilla Silk, Crece Pelo
    Protein DT: Shescentit Okra Hair Repair Reconstructor
    Leave-Ins: Shescentit Coco Creme, Darcy's Botanicals Sweet Cocoa Bean, Aubrey Organics Primrose Spray
    Stylers: Aubrey Organics B-5, Shea Moisture Curly Souffle


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  • lizzlebelizzlelizzlebelizzle Posts: 287Registered Users
    Okay I gave LOOB one more chance today. (That's right, DEL, I should have listened to your advice!) I used much less of it, emulsified it in my hands, raked a little bit in and then scrunched and applied gel over and the results were, if anything, worse. The dryness isn't even the biggest issue for me. The biggest issue was the FLATTENING! I usually have pretty big ropey 3b curls but this stuff gave me skinny little 3a curls with 2c in places, and hardly any volume on top. I felt like my hair was deflated! I'm wearing it in a ponytail for the first time in months. I'm pretty sure this stuff just doesn't work for me.

    I'll probably end up going back to [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink], although I'm also curious about trying Lock and Twist and the Curling Cocoa Butter from DM and I also want to try Pink Boots. Any votes?
  • DEL2CDEL2C Posts: 6,418Registered Users
    Okay I gave LOOB one more chance today. (That's right, DEL, I should have listened to your advice!) I used much less of it, emulsified it in my hands, raked a little bit in and then scrunched and applied gel over and the results were, if anything, worse. The dryness isn't even the biggest issue for me. The biggest issue was the FLATTENING! I usually have pretty big ropey 3b curls but this stuff gave me skinny little 3a curls with 2c in places, and hardly any volume on top. I felt like my hair was deflated! I'm wearing it in a ponytail for the first time in months. I'm pretty sure this stuff just doesn't work for me.

    I'll probably end up going back to [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink], although I'm also curious about trying Lock and Twist and the Curling Cocoa Butter from DM and I also want to try Pink Boots. Any votes?
    sorry lizzle :( I don't know what it is about that stuff, it literally worked for me ONCE as well. So weird...

    If your hair likes Oils I would go with the DM stuff otherwise I'd go for the BOOTS. I actually have had much better luck with BOOTS with a LOOC underneath as a LI. The DM stuff is HEAVY and the CCB has Wheat Protein don't know if you're protein sens. or not. I would visit Kathymac's fotki and get samples. It's tricky to use and it may not work very well as we're getting closer to the warmer weather.
    Discovered CG 2007

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    CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
  • lizzlebelizzlelizzlebelizzle Posts: 287Registered Users
    I've never really had any problems with protein or oils so I might just give them a try. I ordered some DM stuff today and I'll probably order some Boots tomorrow just to build up my stash!

    BTW what's LOOC?
  • bettinflabettinfla Posts: 389Registered Users
    Homemade FSG, CK, KCCC and BRHG. Co wash w/Suave, or soap bars (occasionally) or Come Clean (Kinky Curly).
  • curlyzancurlyzan Posts: 41Registered Users
    I've never really had any problems with protein or oils so I might just give them a try. I ordered some DM stuff today and I'll probably order some Boots tomorrow just to build up my stash!

    BTW what's LOOC?

    Are you in England? If you're in the states, where do you order Boots? I'm almost out and really like it with [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink]. Story of my life is that when I find a product I like or clothing that fits, it gets discontinued.:laughing6:
  • curlyzancurlyzan Posts: 41Registered Users
    I've never really had any problems with protein or oils so I might just give them a try. I ordered some DM stuff today and I'll probably order some Boots tomorrow just to build up my stash!

    BTW what's LOOC?

    Do you mean LOOB? That's L'Oreal Out of Bed. Maybe it's designed to give people "bed-head" because it sounds like that's what's happening!
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    auntnett wrote: »
    I liked it last summer and fall but haven't used it since getting Boot's pink and [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink]. Since it was almost this short back then, I've been meaning to give it a go again since I got it cut off. If I can think to, I'll do it next time I wash and let you know what I did if I still get good results.

    ETA: Even then I had to alternate it with other products and not use it all the time. Those who use it apply it on wet hair, NOT as instructed on the jar. I often got better second and third day hair with it than first day. It liked having aloe water applied over it to refresh.

    Used it Saturday, only about a teaspoon as I was scraping out the very last in the bottom of a jar. First 3 pumps AVG, about a dime's worth of KBB gylcerin-free hair milk, LOOB, then about a quarter's worth of Bioterra Gel. All combed thru then scrunched upside down for a couple of minutes followed by a 20 minute plop then about 5 minutes diffusing.

    Completely air dried, SOTC, and voila! One of the best hair days I've had since getting my hair cut off three weeks ago. It'll probably be back in the rotation about once a week if that continues. I'm on day three now without it getting oily looking yet as it has been with [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] and/or Boot's.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • lazy loopslazy loops Posts: 8,792Registered Users
    It literally sucked all moisture out of my hair from the get-go. My hair was never such a crispy dried out mess than with this styler & Crazy Curl Curl Enhancer Balm by Alagio. :sad8:
  • lizzlebelizzlelizzlebelizzle Posts: 287Registered Users
    I actually haven't ordered it yet like I said I was going to, but I was planning on getting the Boots from Brit Super Store.

    Thanks for everyone's advice with LOOB, but I'm pretty sure it's just not gonna work for me. The minute it touches my hair my curls basically deflate, and I have pretty curly hair so that's amazing to me! Maybe it would work for helping with straightening? If I did that more often that might be what I would keep it for.