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devachan results-2nd day pics & update-1 quick cg Q

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update 4.27.06


so i went to devachan before!!! heres my story
i woke up at 6 to register for fall classes which was good because it allowed me to wash & air dry my hair in the morning before i went. i got the devachan around 11, an hour early but i sat there shaking i was so nervous. when i walked into the salon, i was in awe of all the beautiful curls. ive never seen so much nice hair in my life!! i felt like i had the worst hair in the place lol.

jeff took me at 12 sharp. he was super sweet, he was from staten island just like me which was pretty cool. i told him i wanted to keep me length and he ensured me i wouldn't lose much but my ends were beyond dead (which they were, thanks to a previous hairdresser cutting my hair with *gasp* a razor) so he was snipping piece by piece ever so patiently which i thought was really cool. i like cutting on dry hair better i think. i told him i had put relaxers in my hair and wanted to grow them out and he said that's good and i might notice 2 different textures to my hair once im on the cg method but be patient and let it grow. which i will. i also asked him how damaged myt hair was and he said the ends were pretty bad, the middle was alright but my new roots were in very good shape. he told me to use a lot of conditioner and absolutley no shampoo. i thought i did this already but i guess i need more conditioner.

after he was done cutting, one of the stylists (i feel so horrible i forgot her name! she was so pretty though) took me to the sink and she was just as nice. she told me to forget about shampoo that i can never shampoo again and that i will start no pooing. the scalp massage was amazing :D it was pretty cool how i got to lay down near the sink instead of sitting. normally since i have slight fibromyalgia syndrome (pain in the neck and back muscles) sometimes the "shampooing" at the sink bothers me, but this didnt. she also told me to put on one c (conditioner) before no poo and then more after. then we went over to have my hair styled. she told me i'm a wavie but i noticed my curls lost curliness and were more defined waved since jeff cut it (more on this later). she put be-leave in in my hair and then i had my head upside down, i had to shake it side to side and she put angell in. and then more angell. and then more angell. LoL it was a lot of gel (at least to me) and she was scrunching with paper towels she said it eliminates frizz. oh yea and she also applied the gel to my hair when it was dripping wet, and then toweled it after. after that she put clips at my roots to give it life and i sat under a hood dryer for a while

while under the dryer my hair felt so stiff i was having a panic attack but jeff reassured me once its down drying the gel magically gets scrunched out to soft waves. well he was right. once again my head got flipped over (something im not used to) and i watched in pure amazement at mega crunched hair turned to goddess soft waves.

the end result- i loved how they clipped the roots of my hair because i always thought my part looks weird- turned out i wasnt parting my hair naturally. i know jeff said he didnt take a lot off but for me, this legnth is tooo short :( the waves look really good but its not as curly since wavy hair gets less curly the shorter it gets.

the way jeff shaped my hair is absolutley fantastic,-he gets an A+ for that! it is a great cut, i just personally wish it was longer. i know ultimatley the ends were dead and needed to go so itll be better in the long run. im looking at is optimistically as i got rid of some relaxed hair. im also not used to it yet, it takes me a while to adjust to haircuts.

right now i kind of feel my waves arent defined to their maximum capability, but my hair likes to go into shock right after a cut so i know they'll look better in a wash or 2.

overall, i do miss my length but hey it grows fast. im going to do the cg routine (or try to, its hard for me to stay away from curls rock!) because i heard the cg rountine makes hair grow more. i wound up buying no poo, one condition, beleave-in, and angell oh yea and the deva clips and a cute devachan tshirt that says fry eggs (well theres a pic of fried eggs) not hair. deva forever on the front and on the back is a blowdryer with the line through circle symbol (think like no smoking type symbol) and says find something else to blow. not hair. deva curl. i thought it was cute.


my mom & boyfriend loved my hair. my boyfriend thinks it looks better at this length, i politely told him enjoy it before it grows because i like it longer (im stubborn) any opinions you guys have will be GREATLY appritiated on the new cut, i made an album check my link below.


i have 2 questions for you guys if its okay


whats a good cg friendly cream? (i prefer cream over gel, so ill prob use angell as a final step)

and also, the lady who normally cuts my hair also colors it and i need my roots touched up BAD. i want to go the end of may, but shes going to obviously see someone else cut it. WHAT DO I DO??? i feel bad, ive been going to her for 3 years now and i feel like i cheated on her, but at the same time, she used to cut my hair with a razor now LoL. should i go to someone else all together? how much is coloring at devachan?

jeff told me to come back in 4 months. thats too soon i'm probably going to wait 6. i'm thinking about getting a deep treatment at the ouidad salon in july before i go on vacation just to see how they style my hair (no scissors!!!)then i will compare it to devachan to see which styling i like better.

i def recommend jeff. he listened to me and it wasnt his fault my ends were so dead to begin with. it really is a great cut like i said earlier, once it starts growing in and i get my length back i will love it.

i will post more pics once i condition and style itmyself for the 1st time after cut

thanks everyone in advance for opinions!!! sorry for posting results so late i was in the city a while then went straight to my b/f's and just got home now.











original post: 6 days until devachan

EDIT ON 4.26.06-
so devachan called me to confirm my appointment, and i found out my stylist is jeff. anybody ever have their hair done with him?? i'm so excited for tomorrow!!! the past 2 weeks ive been passing devachan on the expressbus thinking i cant wait to go i cant wait to go and now its here! i have to wake up at 6am to register for fall classes so i'm going to wash my hair in the morning (im going to use curls rock system since i think it works the best for me) so they see fresh waves on me instead of 2nd day hair. my appointment is at noon so it should be dry in time. i'm going to bring my camera but i might or might not be too shy to take pics in the salon, I'll see. either way i will take before & after pics! i'm going to make a list tonight of everything i want to tell Jeff about my hair and what I want done to it & I'm bringing my list b/c I'll probably be so excited I'll forget. Results will be posted by tomorrow night! =)

p.s. i'm updating my hair album with pics of the silking curl-reactivating cream in a few minutes so if you want,check it out!



so a few curlies were nice enough to tell me a little about devachan through some PMs. I have less than a week to go before my big appointment & i am soo excited, but equally nervous!


any and every little bit of advice you can give me for the big hair day will be GREATLY appritiated. i know i have to style my hair before i go because they cut it dry. im used to just going to a salon looking blah and having them make me pretty so this is different all together. did anyone not do their own hair beforehand? what happened?

what do i tell my stylist about my hair? i only wants the ends trimmed really because i want to grow it out but i want more curl definition and i need to learn how to style it better. i should prob tell them its been relaxed right? and that i like air drying it?

do you have to buy all the products? i always feel bad saying no in salons so i have bought stuff i never used in the past.


do they sit and talk to you about your hair at all before they cut?

i dont know who my stylisy is yet b/c i forgot to ask and i called back the # and it said press 2 to talk to an operator so i wasnt sure if that was the salon or not


thanks curlies & wavies for your help in advance



p.s. whats the closest stop or main street (via subway) to get off to get to the salon? i always pass it on my way home on the bus but my ride goes so quick i never see the sreet signs. im taking the expressbus in but thats leaves me somewhere on 6th ave so ill probhave to hop on a train to get there
Diane
2C blonde long hair

•ojon + curls
•goal: to grow my hair to my waist!

•hair timeline:
-last cut 4.27.06@ devachan by jeff
-colored 3.6.07
-trimmed on 10.1
-softened @ ouidad 10.20
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  • gryantmarch2stepgryantmarch2step Posts: 454Registered Users
    I usually take the R to Prince Street and it's next to Dean and Deluca's. It's the Lower Level.

    560 Broadway
    Between Spring and Prince Street.
    3B~Botticelli/3C~ Corkicelli~Blonde
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    PW: dmbcurls
  • KeeweeKeewee Posts: 1,376Registered Users
    wear your hair the way you normally do. so they can see how it is. and no you don't have to buy anything,
  • CopperWavesCopperWaves Posts: 83Registered Users
    I don't have any advice for you. I just hope you have a wonderful time and your hair turns out fabulous!!! :) :) Can't wait to hear all about it and take lots of pics!
    My hair is not the boss of me!!!!
  • hockeymomof3hockeymomof3 Posts: 2,159Registered Users
    Just wanted to say have fun and want to hear all about it!!!
    3b/a
    Cowash - No Poo
    Conditioner - One Condition
    Gel - Light Defining Gel

    Looking to try Devacurl Decadence line next! Can't wait to try it.
  • BeachBlondeWavieBeachBlondeWavie Posts: 159Registered Users
    thanks everybody =) only 4 days left!!! i dont know how to edit my subject to change the # LoL i'm so nervous. its been raining the past 2 days here in NYC and im praying to God by Thursday the rain goes away for me!! thats all i need- the forecast says by thurs it should be partly cloudy with only a 20% chance of rain so i hope thats right!
    Diane
    2C blonde long hair

    •ojon + curls
    •goal: to grow my hair to my waist!

    •hair timeline:
    -last cut 4.27.06@ devachan by jeff
    -colored 3.6.07
    -trimmed on 10.1
    -softened @ ouidad 10.20
  • banjocurlbanjocurl Posts: 1,020Registered Users
    be honest, relaxed and as direct and assertive as possible. tell them everything that has been done to your hair. don't worry. i have pics of my hair cut last feb 2005 and 2006. they do a great job-just do your normal thing or nothing is ok too. get the camera ready, bring it with you if u can!! HAVE FUN!!!
    Susan suburban NY
    3b going gray, not thick, waist length when wet, a bit below shoulders when dry
    CG since 11/11/04
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    PW: banjo
    HG: suave and honey for co-wash, deva, i use garnier fructis regular CO's or boots pink or white as leave ins and LA looks sport gel. plop w microfiber turban, then curl towel scrunch, then another turban.i sleep with the turban on. little one minute hair styling videos /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2Flazycurls" class="Popup
  • BeachBlondeWavieBeachBlondeWavie Posts: 159Registered Users
    i updated =)
    Diane
    2C blonde long hair

    •ojon + curls
    •goal: to grow my hair to my waist!

    •hair timeline:
    -last cut 4.27.06@ devachan by jeff
    -colored 3.6.07
    -trimmed on 10.1
    -softened @ ouidad 10.20
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    Can't wait to hear how things went :D
  • BeachBlondeWavieBeachBlondeWavie Posts: 159Registered Users
    i have my metro card in hand and im leaving my house in about 5 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im so excited/nervous right now...im leaving a little earlier to make sure i get off the right bus stop (im so used to getting off the same one for school)

    check later on today(idk what time exactly, def by tonight though) for my results!!!!!!!! :D :D :D
    Diane
    2C blonde long hair

    •ojon + curls
    •goal: to grow my hair to my waist!

    •hair timeline:
    -last cut 4.27.06@ devachan by jeff
    -colored 3.6.07
    -trimmed on 10.1
    -softened @ ouidad 10.20
  • juvjoyjuvjoy Posts: 670Registered Users
    Good luck! I can't wait to see the new pics!!! I'm sure it's gonna be great :)
    Kim
  • CurlieGlamourGirlieCurlieGlamourGirlie Posts: 1,198Registered Users
    How exciting!!! I have an appointment with Ana in about 2 weeks - I can't wait!!
  • woocurlzwoocurlz Posts: 51Registered Users
    (im going to use curls rock system since i think it works the best for me)

    What is this - is it the Tigi line, or something else?

    Hope the cut was all you expected! I'm jealous - saving my pennies for a NYC trip to Devachan!
    3a , Botticelli - O Fine Silky per LOIS
    Using: DevaCare NoPoo & OneC, AnGell, SIF; CK; re:coil; BSRHG; lavender/glycerin mist

    password: curls
  • zmanzzzzzmanzzzz Banned Posts: 3,826Banned Users
    im excited. 8)
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    woocurlz wrote:
    (im going to use curls rock system since i think it works the best for me)

    What is this - is it the Tigi line, or something else?

    Hope the cut was all you expected! I'm jealous - saving my pennies for a NYC trip to Devachan!

    woocurlz - I love your avatar :D

    The tigi line is the one she refers too - she got me to use it too from all her wonderful reviews of it :wink:
  • BeachBlondeWavieBeachBlondeWavie Posts: 159Registered Users
    results above!
    Diane
    2C blonde long hair

    •ojon + curls
    •goal: to grow my hair to my waist!

    •hair timeline:
    -last cut 4.27.06@ devachan by jeff
    -colored 3.6.07
    -trimmed on 10.1
    -softened @ ouidad 10.20
  • Suzi-QSuzi-Q Posts: 20Registered Users
    Diane, I think your hair looks great! I know you'll miss the length, but if you stick to the CG routine, your hair will maintain its health and recover its long length in no time. Mine grows much faster on the CG routine, almost as fast as it grew while I was pregnant! Drench on that conditioner, girl! :P

    As far as CG creams, if you're into the DevaCurl thing, I would try some Set It Free. It's like a cream, but it's a spray...very cool & it smells good like limes. I squirt it right into whatever gel I'm using, mix it up in my hands, and squish/scrunch the mixture into my hair after I scrunch out excess moisture with a microfiber towel. Not an ounce of crunchiness to be found! I also just bought some of the Curls Curl Souffle, and I'm kind of experimenting with it...so far I like it, but it might be a little too heavy for your hair. Smells wonderful, like buttercream frosting on a birthday cake :D
    3A/B; mid-back length when dry; brownish-reddish (color-treated)
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  • kimmyckimmyc Posts: 551Registered Users
    I think your hair looks awesome! So frizz free and shiny and the color is gorgeous. I still think it looks long too.

    As for a cream Boots is great and so isn't [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/AG-Recoil-p-24.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=ag-hair-cosmetics-recoil-curl-activator]Re:coil[/buylink]. Another that I've only tried a couple of times is Curls Spiral Cream. It seems pretty good too.
    2b/3a, primarily use Jessicurl and DevaCurl products, Curls Hair Tea conditioner and various gels. I'm modified CG-ish since 5/04.
  • wxgirlcurlwxgirlcurl Posts: 125Registered Users
    Just wanted to add that your hair looks awesome short or long.... but I always have a preference for the long. BTW your curls and red hair in your older shots look amazing!!!!
    Curl type: 2c/3a F/M ii (2b F underneath - 3a M on top), normal elasticity, low porosity,
    Modified CG since July 2011,
    Conditioners: Tresumme Naturals for RO and L'Oreal Eversleek for LI
    Styler: Shea Moisture Coconut & Hibiscus Curl Enhancing Smoothie
    Mousse: HETMS, HESMU or Pantene Curl defining mousse
    Oils: 50/50 Coconut Oil and EVOO (amazing combo!!)
    My Hair Album - Naturally Curly and Straightened
  • banjocurlbanjocurl Posts: 1,020Registered Users
    your hair looks GREAT. The loss in length is barely noticeable. anyway, the cut is nice, the color is pretty, your hair is fabulous, so don't worry. be grateful. I feel so bad when i hear of someone who has fried their hair or gotten a really awful cut. so far i feel fortunate being so close to the "mothership".....enjoy it. the hair will grow fast now. even mine is growing and I am MUCH older than you!
    congratulations
    banjo
    Susan suburban NY
    3b going gray, not thick, waist length when wet, a bit below shoulders when dry
    CG since 11/11/04
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fbanjolady%2F" class="Popup
    PW: banjo
    HG: suave and honey for co-wash, deva, i use garnier fructis regular CO's or boots pink or white as leave ins and LA looks sport gel. plop w microfiber turban, then curl towel scrunch, then another turban.i sleep with the turban on. little one minute hair styling videos /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2Flazycurls" class="Popup
  • BeachBlondeWavieBeachBlondeWavie Posts: 159Registered Users
    thank you for responses girls =)

    Suzi-Q how fast does hair grow when you were pregnant so I get an idea what you mean? LoL =)

    I eat a lot of pretein and take biotin pills for my hair already so that will hopefully work with the conditioner. I was conditioning 3 times a week, how many times should I up that to do you think? I want my length back already! I can't get used to it I know its not short short, but for me it is.

    kimmyc can i buy any of the creams you mentioned in store or are they all online?

    wxgirlcurl- the way my curls were in the older pics is how i want them now!! long and really curly =( i kick myself every day for ever relaxing and cutting it LOL
    Diane
    2C blonde long hair

    •ojon + curls
    •goal: to grow my hair to my waist!

    •hair timeline:
    -last cut 4.27.06@ devachan by jeff
    -colored 3.6.07
    -trimmed on 10.1
    -softened @ ouidad 10.20
  • curlinicatorcurlinicator Posts: 911Registered Users
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  • BeachBlondeWavieBeachBlondeWavie Posts: 159Registered Users
    banjo- thank you for motivation =) i guess it looks a lot shorter to me then everyone else yea im so lucky to be in nyc too i appritiate it every day we have all the curl headquarters at our fingertips pretty much.


    curlincinator- i thought carlos was one of the majoy people at devachan? when i scheduled my appointment i didnt specify my stylist bc i didnt think to and i researched the board 2 days ago and i didnt see jeffs name anywhere but refused to reschedule. when i went in i just told jeff i didnt want to lose length i wanted it to be easy styled and the ends cleaned up and thats what he did he wa ssoo nice explaining to me how he had to take off a little bit extra since my ends were like split in 2 always like an upsidedown W with the \ and / practically horizontal (if that makes any sense at all) i think the shape is a u ill take more pictures tomorrow or sat so maybe you can tell better...if you go to jeff if u want bring in the pic of the back of my hair and tell him to do that for u im sure he would LoL =)
    Diane
    2C blonde long hair

    •ojon + curls
    •goal: to grow my hair to my waist!

    •hair timeline:
    -last cut 4.27.06@ devachan by jeff
    -colored 3.6.07
    -trimmed on 10.1
    -softened @ ouidad 10.20
  • lushaholiclushaholic Posts: 2,180Registered Users
    That tshirt sounds awesome! I want one!! 8)

    For the color, I would definitely check how much the color is at Devachan and try to get it done there if it's not too much more than what you were paying before. I know you're not getting highlights, but I've had the pintura method done that they do at Devachan and it was excellent!! Another reason I would get it done there if possible, is that they care so much more for curly than just the average salon which just colors your hair without any regards for the effect it might have on your curls. Does that make sense? I know selfcurledgirl has her hair colored or highlighted there but I can't remember who did hers. Maybe she'll see this and let you know. :wink:

    Anyway, I think Jeff did a really great job with your hair! It looks very healthy and it will grow back before you know it. :)
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  • hockeymomof3hockeymomof3 Posts: 2,159Registered Users
    Your hair looks awesome!! I love the cut...the shape is great!

    For a good CG friendly cream that also enhances curl!! -- is [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/AG-Recoil-p-24.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=ag-hair-cosmetics-recoil-curl-activator]AG Recoil[/buylink]...It's great stuff!!
    3b/a
    Cowash - No Poo
    Conditioner - One Condition
    Gel - Light Defining Gel

    Looking to try Devacurl Decadence line next! Can't wait to try it.
  • allicatallicat Posts: 134Registered Users
    I love your new haircut, and your detailed description of what they did to your hair:) I always feel the same way when I go to devachan :)
    CG
    3a-ish & fine stranded, Botticelli type curls
    Currently using low poo/no poo & Ouidad Stylers
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  • BrioBrio Posts: 1,432Registered Users
    You're hair is beautiful!

    I agree with Banjocurl: you don't hardly even notice the loss of length. I think once your hair gets past a certain length, it's long and people don't really pay attention to where it touches on your back. They just think you have long hair.

    I'm so jealous. I wish I could find someone who specializes in curly hair cuts. I don't have as many options where I live. I need a trip to the big city!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Frizz Happens!
    my Fotki hair journey/experiment diary PW is brio (and I really need to update it!)

    3A hair; coloring with henna/indigo since July 2009; normally follow the CG method. Still searching for my HG products!
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    Brio wrote:
    You're hair is beautiful!

    I agree with Banjocurl: you don't hardly even notice the loss of length. I think once your hair gets past a certain length, it's long and people don't really pay attention to where it touches on your back. They just think you have long hair.

    I'm so jealous. I wish I could find someone who specializes in curly hair cuts. I don't have as many options where I live. I need a trip to the big city!

    Ditto everything you said!! Right down to the terrible NC salons for curlies :wink: Let me know if you ever find someplace and I will do the same. :D

    BeachBlondeWavie - I love your haircut and your hair is beautiful! I had an entire foot cut off from my hair do to damage, and, I hate it shorter. It is easier for me to handle and style longer, so, I know how you are feeling. But, I think yours is still very long (mine is shoulder length :x ) and is a very good length for you :D It sounds like you had a very good day yesterday!

    Kimmyc had very good recommendations for creams. I was thinking that since you like curl enhancers that [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/AG-Recoil-p-24.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=ag-hair-cosmetics-recoil-curl-activator]re:coil[/buylink] and [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Jessicurl-Rockin-Ringlets-Styling-Potion-p-100.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=jessicurl-rockin-ringlets]Rockin' Ringlets[/buylink] would be good options for you. :D

    One more thing, do you think your hair is wavy now, because of the relaxer? I was confused when she said that to you, your older pics look like you are a 3a to me :?
  • back2natureback2nature Posts: 37Registered Users
    Congratulations! Your hair looks so beautiful and healthy. I know how you feel losing your length. I used to have my hair past my waist, and I was very attached to it. (lol) The first time I cut a significant amount, I cried :cry: But honestly, nobody could tell but me. Anything past the shoulders is considered long, and I still think your hair looks very long. The waves/curls are very shiny and defined. I think it's a great hair cut. I'm so happy you had a good experience. Keep treating your hair right, and it will continue to grow stronger and longer :D
    2b/2c M iii
    Haven't straightened since 4/1/06!
    Proud to be a Product Minimalist (PM)
    PW: wavy
  • CurlieGlamourGirlieCurlieGlamourGirlie Posts: 1,198Registered Users
    Love the new 'do!! I agree that you really didn't lose much length. You have to think that you lost unhealthy hair and that it eventually will make your hair better.

    I love Ana at Devachan and can't wait to see her in a few weeks!!!
  • CurlieGlamourGirlieCurlieGlamourGirlie Posts: 1,198Registered Users
    Love the new 'do!! I agree that you really didn't lose much length. You have to think that you lost unhealthy hair and that it eventually will make your hair better.

    I love Ana at Devachan and can't wait to see her in a few weeks!!!
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