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Dandruff vs Dry Scalp

Laura LeeLaura Lee Posts: 1,828Registered Users
I found a good article today that explains the difference between dandruff and a dry scalp.

Dandruff is definitely not as prevalent as the makers of commerical dandruff shampoos would have us believe. Most people who think that the white flakes they have are dandruff flakes are wrong; it is more likely dry scalp.

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  • curlylioncurlylion Posts: 56Registered Users
    Great article, thank you very much for posting it laura lee.

    I thought i had dandruff since starting cg, but it was really dry scalp.

    do you recommend co washing more or less to battle this dryness?
    I'm a Guy on mod CG, 3a.

    Currently using:
    Suave Naturals Coconut
    Loreal Vive Pro Nutri Gloss
    Loob
  • BoomygrrlBoomygrrl Posts: 4,940Registered Users
    I would recommend CO washing less, if you can get away with it. Although conditioner can be soothing to your scalp, like lotion can be for dry hands...you don't leave conditioner in the scalp. Conditioner should be rinsed off thoroughly to avoid build up issues. Many people leave some conditioner in their hair, but it should really only be on the length of the hair, not the scalp.
    If you CO wash your hair less, it gives your natural oils a chance to start moisturizing your scalp.
    That's right, I said it! I wear scrunchies!!

    I am a sulfate washing, cone slabbing, curly lovin' s.o.b. The CG police haven't caught me yet.
    :blob8:

    3a/3b
  • Laura LeeLaura Lee Posts: 1,828Registered Users
    Boomygrrl wrote: »
    I would recommend CO washing less, if you can get away with it. Although conditioner can be soothing to your scalp, like lotion can be for dry hands...you don't leave conditioner in the scalp. Conditioner should be rinsed off thoroughly to avoid build up issues. Many people leave some conditioner in their hair, but it should really only be on the length of the hair, not the scalp.
    If you CO wash your hair less, it gives your natural oils a chance to start moisturizing your scalp.

    I agree :)
  • tulrich125tulrich125 Posts: 20Registered Users
    Thanks for posting this!!!
    Red-headed curly girl and lovin' it! :geek:

    3b/F-M/i-ii; whichever porosity means that you need lots of moisture


    CG (modified) since September O8

    Low poo: Jessicurl GLS
    Conditioner: Jessicurl Too Shea and Garnier Fructis Triple Nutrition
    DT: Jessicurl WDCT
    Leave-in: JC Aloeba
    Styling: HETT Mousse

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  • CurlyLocks921CurlyLocks921 Posts: 32Registered Users
    Boomygrrl wrote: »
    I would recommend CO washing less, if you can get away with it. Although conditioner can be soothing to your scalp, like lotion can be for dry hands...you don't leave conditioner in the scalp. Conditioner should be rinsed off thoroughly to avoid build up issues. Many people leave some conditioner in their hair, but it should really only be on the length of the hair, not the scalp.
    If you CO wash your hair less, it gives your natural oils a chance to start moisturizing your scalp.

    So if you CO wash less, let's say twice a week can you wet your hair in between to style your curls? (My curls are just not the same after I've been sleeping on them all night and my hair is too short to pineapple)
    Mod CG since Feb 2009
    Hair Type: 3a/3b - 2c on back canopy
    Clarifying: Deva Curl Low Poo
    CO Wash: Deva Curl No Poo, Vo5, Suave Coconut
    Conditioners: AOHR, CJCR
    Styling: KCKT, KCCC, CK, JCNS, BRHG
    Currently experimenting with Pink Boots and CJCCCC.
  • Laura LeeLaura Lee Posts: 1,828Registered Users
    Boomygrrl wrote: »
    I would recommend CO washing less, if you can get away with it. Although conditioner can be soothing to your scalp, like lotion can be for dry hands...you don't leave conditioner in the scalp. Conditioner should be rinsed off thoroughly to avoid build up issues. Many people leave some conditioner in their hair, but it should really only be on the length of the hair, not the scalp.
    If you CO wash your hair less, it gives your natural oils a chance to start moisturizing your scalp.

    So if you CO wash less, let's say twice a week can you wet your hair in between to style your curls? (My curls are just not the same after I've been sleeping on them all night and my hair is too short to pineapple)

    Yes of course. You can either smooth water on, scrunch in water (I personally do this but I use product as well, a mix of half water half aloe), or get in the shower and water wash (same idea as cowashing, scrub scalp well, but without conditioner on the scalp. With water washing, you can use a conditioner on the length of the hair. If you water wash, you basically start over styling wise)
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    Laura Lee wrote: »
    Boomygrrl wrote: »
    I would recommend CO washing less, if you can get away with it. Although conditioner can be soothing to your scalp, like lotion can be for dry hands...you don't leave conditioner in the scalp. Conditioner should be rinsed off thoroughly to avoid build up issues. Many people leave some conditioner in their hair, but it should really only be on the length of the hair, not the scalp.
    If you CO wash your hair less, it gives your natural oils a chance to start moisturizing your scalp.

    So if you CO wash less, let's say twice a week can you wet your hair in between to style your curls? (My curls are just not the same after I've been sleeping on them all night and my hair is too short to pineapple)

    Yes of course. You can either smooth water on, scrunch in water (I personally do this but I use product as well, a mix of half water half aloe), or get in the shower and water wash (same idea as cowashing, scrub scalp well, but without conditioner on the scalp. With water washing, you can use a conditioner on the length of the hair. If you water wash, you basically start over styling wise)

    I can usually refresh with 50/50 aloe/water, too. I seldom have to actually water wash unless my hair's just really in messed-up, poorly-curling shape. The aloe water reactivates curls and product so that it often looks better than it did when first washed. I can go 2-4 days this way usually.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • CurlayGirlayCurlayGirlay Posts: 240Registered Users
    I went to school today, and my friend told me," I think you have dandruff." Then another friend said," Mabye it's because of that stupid CG hair diet you've been doing." (she has straight hair and was a bit grumpy today)

    Anyway,;-) the whole day I've been freaking out, and now I must thank Laura Lee. I found out it's dry scalp (no suprise considering how dry it is in Arizona right now.)

    I think I'll try what you guys have said and co-wash less.
    CG since December 22, 2008!:thumbright:
    Thick/Coarse/Porous/3a/Protein Sensitive

    Luvin the Spritz and Condish method! =)
  • CurlyLocks921CurlyLocks921 Posts: 32Registered Users
    Thank you guys for all your great advice!
    Mod CG since Feb 2009
    Hair Type: 3a/3b - 2c on back canopy
    Clarifying: Deva Curl Low Poo
    CO Wash: Deva Curl No Poo, Vo5, Suave Coconut
    Conditioners: AOHR, CJCR
    Styling: KCKT, KCCC, CK, JCNS, BRHG
    Currently experimenting with Pink Boots and CJCCCC.
  • Laura LeeLaura Lee Posts: 1,828Registered Users
    I went to school today, and my friend told me," I think you have dandruff." Then another friend said," Mabye it's because of that stupid CG hair diet you've been doing." (she has straight hair and was a bit grumpy today)

    Anyway,;-) the whole day I've been freaking out, and now I must thank Laura Lee. I found out it's dry scalp (no suprise considering how dry it is in Arizona right now.)

    I think I'll try what you guys have said and co-wash less.

    Your straightie friend is probably just jealous ;)

    And yes, as a former AZ girl, I'm sure that your dry all over :(
  • CurlayGirlayCurlayGirlay Posts: 240Registered Users
    Laura Lee wrote: »
    I went to school today, and my friend told me," I think you have dandruff." Then another friend said," Mabye it's because of that stupid CG hair diet you've been doing." (she has straight hair and was a bit grumpy today)

    Anyway,;-) the whole day I've been freaking out, and now I must thank Laura Lee. I found out it's dry scalp (no suprise considering how dry it is in Arizona right now.)

    I think I'll try what you guys have said and co-wash less.

    Your straightie friend is probably just jealous ;)

    And yes, as a former AZ girl, I'm sure that your dry all over :(

    Glad someone understands! ;)

    It actually rained today! For about 3 minutes......
    CG since December 22, 2008!:thumbright:
    Thick/Coarse/Porous/3a/Protein Sensitive

    Luvin the Spritz and Condish method! =)
  • QVCDivaQVCDiva Posts: 1,329Registered Users
    CurlayGirly, I moved out of NC for awhile and lived on the western slope of CO for 8 years, so understand about the dry climate. Everything is dried out, skin, hair, etc. For me, that was the hight of hair and skin issues. Try having a relaxer in that climate. With an average of 0.5% humidity and very little rain or snow, it was like a recipe for hair disaster.
    Last Relaxer: 09/19/08
    BC: 01/30/09
    Misc: 1st time going natural was '94-'98; 2nd time - '99-2003; This time I will not go back to relaxers.
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  • CurlyLocks921CurlyLocks921 Posts: 32Registered Users
    Does anyone know which stores carry GTTT? I went on their website but they don't have their list of retailers up yet.
    Mod CG since Feb 2009
    Hair Type: 3a/3b - 2c on back canopy
    Clarifying: Deva Curl Low Poo
    CO Wash: Deva Curl No Poo, Vo5, Suave Coconut
    Conditioners: AOHR, CJCR
    Styling: KCKT, KCCC, CK, JCNS, BRHG
    Currently experimenting with Pink Boots and CJCCCC.
  • Laura LeeLaura Lee Posts: 1,828Registered Users
    Does anyone know which stores carry GTTT? I went on their website but they don't have their list of retailers up yet.

    Target (check in the aisle with the burt's bee's stuff), Rite Aid (general hair care aisle), Whole Foods (hair care aisle), some krogers (organic aisle)
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    Also Ulta. And a lot of healthfood stores carry it, too.

    You can also order larger bottles for a good price at www.massagewarehouse.com Some have said they've seen liter bottles at TJ Maxx and Marshall's but I haven't checked that out yet.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • CurlayGirlayCurlayGirlay Posts: 240Registered Users
    QVCDiva wrote: »
    CurlayGirly, I moved out of NC for awhile and lived on the western slope of CO for 8 years, so understand about the dry climate. Everything is dried out, skin, hair, etc. For me, that was the hight of hair and skin issues. Try having a relaxer in that climate. With an average of 0.5% humidity and very little rain or snow, it was like a recipe for hair disaster.

    The dry climate is making my hair very sad these days. I can't wait until summer when I can see how my newly CG curls behave when there is more moisture.

    Oh, and I love QVC! I watch it, and HSN constantly and my parents think I'm crazy! (They are not big shoppers) :)
    CG since December 22, 2008!:thumbright:
    Thick/Coarse/Porous/3a/Protein Sensitive

    Luvin the Spritz and Condish method! =)
  • mrl234mrl234 Posts: 548Registered Users
    ...WOW. Thanks for that link! According to this description, I never had dandruff after all, it was dry scalp, which explains why it went away when I went CG. This is so ridiculous...dandruff shampoo companies don't even advertise the symptoms correctly, so over half the people who use their products are doing the exact opposite of what they should be doing for their scalp. So insane!
    :happy10:
    fia 2C/3A-F-iii, sensitive to some proteins
    CGish since 10-16-08
    Low-poo: Yes to Carrots Daily Pampering Shampoo (1-2x/week)
    Rinse outs: Yes to Carrots Pampering Mud Conditioner
    Styling: a little bit of leave in and a little bit of KCCC, diffusing
    Olive oil DTs, honey rinses in the summer :)
  • Laura LeeLaura Lee Posts: 1,828Registered Users
    mrl234 wrote: »
    ...WOW. Thanks for that link! According to this description, I never had dandruff after all, it was dry scalp, which explains why it went away when I went CG. This is so ridiculous...dandruff shampoo companies don't even advertise the symptoms correctly, so over half the people who use their products are doing the exact opposite of what they should be doing for their scalp. So insane!

    I know! The beauty industry these days has become all about keeping the customer coming back for more, not fixing the problems we have :angry5:
  • Misses_JaiMisses_Jai Posts: 97Registered Users
    this is so awesome!!! i mean not the dry scalp, but the new info.....i always wondered why no matter how hard i scrubbed my scalp, it always itched. now i know why...i'm going to give co-washing less a try and see if that helps...

    thanks for posting this & all your awesome advice!!!
    common sense is not common.....
    CG since Jan 2009.....
    No hair color since 2007..i've stopped fighting the greys....they always win....
    3a/some 2c
    clarify - ACV rinse
    co-wash - NGTT calming conditioner or suave naturals tropical coconut
    rinse-out - sally's GVP cond. balm
    dt - sally's GVP k-pak or lustrasilk
    leave in & styling - KCKT, KCCC, HESMU mousse
    styling loves - DIFFUSING!!! & plopping
  • Laura LeeLaura Lee Posts: 1,828Registered Users
    Bumping so it doesn't get lost :)
  • waterlily716waterlily716 Posts: 781Registered Users
    Laura Lee wrote: »
    Boomygrrl wrote: »
    I would recommend CO washing less, if you can get away with it. Although conditioner can be soothing to your scalp, like lotion can be for dry hands...you don't leave conditioner in the scalp. Conditioner should be rinsed off thoroughly to avoid build up issues. Many people leave some conditioner in their hair, but it should really only be on the length of the hair, not the scalp.
    If you CO wash your hair less, it gives your natural oils a chance to start moisturizing your scalp.

    I agree :)

    Thanks so much for posting this article Laura Lee! Scalp health has always really puzzled me. Hair I'm starting to get, but skin? No way! lol Anyways, I noticed I had less dandruff--oh wait dry scalp--after switching to CG, and I bet it was because I wasn't drying out my scalp with all those sulfates. Did this happen to anyone else?

    I still have some dry scalp issues now though. It's not bad, but right now if I scratch my scalp I have a little white flake on my fingernail. Does anyone know if that's normal? I'm going to try to not cowash as much, but I seem to think that made it worse in the past. My scalp would feel itchy and such. I always though massaging my scalp helped get rid of buildup, old skin, and dirt. Now that I think about it, maybe the conditioner is the culprit. Hmmm.... help?

    P.S. There is a girl who sits next to me in band that has severe dry scalp. It's rather noticeable since she has black hair. I think she relaxes her hair, but I really wouldn't know by sight. I think I will direct her to this site, as I can't think of a polite way to broach the subject otherwise.
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    3a/b low to normal porosity curls
    CG method since 2006 @:-)
    CO wash: suave naturals coconut
    rinse out CO: GVP conditioning balm
    stylers: KCNT, CK, jessicurl spiralicious
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  • Laura LeeLaura Lee Posts: 1,828Registered Users
    whimaway wrote: »
    Laura Lee wrote: »
    Boomygrrl wrote: »
    I would recommend CO washing less, if you can get away with it. Although conditioner can be soothing to your scalp, like lotion can be for dry hands...you don't leave conditioner in the scalp. Conditioner should be rinsed off thoroughly to avoid build up issues. Many people leave some conditioner in their hair, but it should really only be on the length of the hair, not the scalp.
    If you CO wash your hair less, it gives your natural oils a chance to start moisturizing your scalp.

    I agree :)

    Thanks so much for posting this article Laura Lee! Scalp health has always really puzzled me. Hair I'm starting to get, but skin? No way! lol Anyways, I noticed I had less dandruff--oh wait dry scalp--after switching to CG, and I bet it was because I wasn't drying out my scalp with all those sulfates. Did this happen to anyone else?

    I still have some dry scalp issues now though. It's not bad, but right now if I scratch my scalp I have a little white flake on my fingernail. Does anyone know if that's normal? I'm going to try to not cowash as much, but I seem to think that made it worse in the past. My scalp would feel itchy and such. I always though massaging my scalp helped get rid of buildup, old skin, and dirt. Now that I think about it, maybe the conditioner is the culprit. Hmmm.... help?

    P.S. There is a girl who sits next to me in band that has severe dry scalp. It's rather noticeable since she has black hair. I think she relaxes her hair, but I really wouldn't know by sight. I think I will direct her to this site, as I can't think of a polite way to broach the subject otherwise.

    I get the white gunk too. Things that have helped are switching up the cowash conditioner every once in a while (I swear, my scalp is such a diva!), the occasional low poo (GTTT), and BROWN SUGAR SCRUBS! My favorite :)
  • cherish313cherish313 Posts: 14Registered Users
    Soooo glad I found this thread. I have suddenly developed dry scalp that seems to have increased since I returned from vacation. I am going to try a few things, first that GTTT, and see if it helps...Its very irritating!

    **disregard my signature, its old and I haven't had a chance to change it**
    ~~3c ~~
    Products:
    Curly days: GTTT co-wash, Giovanni Smooth as Silk Extreme Conditioner (hair), Goldilocks Hair Oil, Giovanni Air-Turbo Charged Natural Mouse
    Straight days: PhytoSpecific Quinoa Oil Moisturizing Styling Balm, Solia flat iron

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  • nettapnettap Posts: 13Registered Users
    maybe i missed something ... what's gttt?
    i've got serious dry scalp, and it seems to be getting worse! :crybaby:
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    Giovanni Tea Tree Triple Treat Shampoo and Conditioner, where to buy discussed further up the thread. Lots of discussion about it on other threads.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • cherish313cherish313 Posts: 14Registered Users
    cherish313 wrote: »
    Soooo glad I found this thread. I have suddenly developed dry scalp that seems to have increased since I returned from vacation. I am going to try a few things, first that GTTT, and see if it helps...Its very irritating!

    **disregard my signature, its old and I haven't had a chance to change it**

    Reporting back... I tried an oatmeal mask, washed and conditioned with Phyto products, then massaged olive oil into my scalp. Worked gread for 3 days. by day 4 I was screaming again.

    So I got rid of my entire former regimen and went to Whole Foods to get all of the products below (except the Phyto). I washed with the GTTT shampoo, followed by GTTT conditioner and conditioned hair with Phytosesame Express Conditioner. Did this every other day for 3 times, then began to co-wash with GTTT every other day for an additional week. After each final rinse, I lightly parted my hair in small sections and dabbed Goldilocks Hair Oil on my scalp then massaged it in. I used Giovanni Air Charged Mousse on my hair to control my curls and it left them soft and beautiful.

    Overall, by the second day I was around "5" on a scale of one to 10 ("9" being the severe itchiness I felt). By day 3 or four I was near a 2, which is just small, random scalp itches a couple of times a day.

    By the end of week 1, my level 8-9 (out of 10) dry, flaky, cracking, red scalp was nearly back to NORMAL. Hair was healthier and not falling out in the front where the severe dryness was.

    I straightened my hair last week and wore it like that for a few days with no problems. The oil was a little heavier with my hair straight, but I believe I used too much since it was my first time (I normally don't oil my scalp when I straighten my hair).

    Thanks a bunch ladies!!! The GTTT was amazing!
    ~~3c ~~
    Products:
    Curly days: GTTT co-wash, Giovanni Smooth as Silk Extreme Conditioner (hair), Goldilocks Hair Oil, Giovanni Air-Turbo Charged Natural Mouse
    Straight days: PhytoSpecific Quinoa Oil Moisturizing Styling Balm, Solia flat iron

    My Live Space!
    My hair pics!
  • BakaNekoBakaNeko Posts: 21Registered Users
    Hi, I'm new and have lurked a bit. I'm very intrigued by this website but I have hesitations because I have seborrheic dermatitis. The article doesn't really touch on that...just "dandruff". I know what I have is genetic, not hygiene-related. I have been told by a dermatologist that no one thing will fix it, nothing will cure it, but 2% zinc pyrthione (sp?) and salicylic acid rotated in and out will ease the problem. It looks like cradle cap on newborns, if you're familiar with that at all.

    Anyway...I am stuck between having to use harsh shampoos to control my derma**** and wanting beautiful curls. I can't follow a lot of these routines described in the forums because otherwise I'm afraid my scalp would go haywire. ANY advice on this would be appreciated. I recently got some GVP Tea Tree shampoo and conditioner and have been rotating that with my other two shampoos. Oh yeah...I live in Florida so the frizz is really starting to pick up now *boooo*.

    Thanks to anyone who can help.
    3a/3b, medium texture
    'poo: GTTTT every 3rd wash
    Co-wash: GTTTT
    RO/LI: LVPNG or Sally's Salon Care Wild Cherry
    Styling: AVG/BRHG/Artec Smoothing Serum (sparingly)

    DT: In search of...
    Would like to try: JCSS and JCRR
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    BakaNeko wrote: »
    Hi, I'm new and have lurked a bit. I'm very intrigued by this website but I have hesitations because I have seborrheic dermatitis. The article doesn't really touch on that...just "dandruff". I know what I have is genetic, not hygiene-related. I have been told by a dermatologist that no one thing will fix it, nothing will cure it, but 2% zinc pyrthione (sp?) and salicylic acid rotated in and out will ease the problem. It looks like cradle cap on newborns, if you're familiar with that at all.

    Anyway...I am stuck between having to use harsh shampoos to control my derma**** and wanting beautiful curls. I can't follow a lot of these routines described in the forums because otherwise I'm afraid my scalp would go haywire. ANY advice on this would be appreciated. I recently got some GVP Tea Tree shampoo and conditioner and have been rotating that with my other two shampoos. Oh yeah...I live in Florida so the frizz is really starting to pick up now *boooo*.

    Thanks to anyone who can help.

    There are plenty of us here who have seborrheic dermatitis. I've had hereditary SD for over 45 years (I'm now almost 53), and Giovanni Tea Tree Triple Treat shampoo and conditioner have helped more than anything else I've ever tried - either OTC or prescription.

    I don't know anything about GVP's Tea Tree. If it's supposed to be a knock-off of Paul Mitchell's TT products, I'll just say that the real PM stuff made my scalp worse, if anything. If it's supposed to be a knock-off GTTTT, I'd stick with it for a while because the GVP products are usually pretty much equivalent to the original, in my experience.

    I also apply Fruit of the Earth aloe vera gel generously (usually 3 pumps) to dripping wet hair as soon as I get out of the shower, massaging it into both my hair and scalp - further helps calm the scalp, adds some additional weightless moisture to the hair, aids in curl formation, definition, clumping, and helps control frizz. I also have SD on my face, and using The Oil Cleansing Method www.theoilcleansingmethod.com and lightly applying FOTE AVG after an alcohol-free toner also helps with that itchiness and scaliness.

    The occasional - no more than once a week - apple cider vinegar rinse (1-2 tablespoons in a cup of water) also helps. I apply mine between washing and conditioning, and there's no lingering vinegar smell.

    Brown sugar scrubs can help, too, although I've never needed them myself since using GTTTT. If you want to try, work a little brown sugar into a puddle of conditioner and massage your scalp with it.

    Overall, my scalp has been much better since going modified CG - modified just means that I low-poo occasionally with a sulfate-free shampoo, in my case GTTTT. I co-wash with the conditioner when possible, always leaving it on my scalp for at least a couple of minutes and making sure I scrub my scalp well with it. If my scalp starts getting too itchy or scaly with just co-washing, then I low-poo with the GTTTT shampoo, usually about every 7-10 days, although I have been able to go as long as two weeks occasionally.

    The sulfates seem to have been the biggest culprit for me, so even if tea tree products don't do the trick, I'd say try not to go back to sulfate shampoos. Another sulfate-free one to try that I use occasionally is Theraneem shampoo with neem oil. It's an all-natural Ayurvedic shampoo - very gentle but makes my hair a little too soft. I switch off occasionally sometimes just to give it something different, though.

    Psoriasin is sulfate-free if you feel you just have to have a medicated shampoo.

    Hope some of this helps you.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • BakaNekoBakaNeko Posts: 21Registered Users
    Thank you so much that really did help tremendously and gives me hope. I have been able to control the flaking on my nose and face with DermaZinc cream from DermaDoctor. It's always been my scalp that's been insane. The GVP is supposed to be a knock-off of PM. I will try this GTTT that everyone here raves about =) After a little more digging on this site it sounds like some others have had great success with Nizoral which I have never tried. I will try the GTTT first because I hate medicated shampoos. Again, thank you so much for taking the time to reply.
    3a/3b, medium texture
    'poo: GTTTT every 3rd wash
    Co-wash: GTTTT
    RO/LI: LVPNG or Sally's Salon Care Wild Cherry
    Styling: AVG/BRHG/Artec Smoothing Serum (sparingly)

    DT: In search of...
    Would like to try: JCSS and JCRR
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    After trying Nizoral exclusively for a couple of months about 10 years ago, I then rotated it with salicylic acid, tar and zinc shampoos. It has sulfates just like all the others, plus I could never tell it did much good either in rotation or alone - it's supposed to kill yeast, which can be a contributor to some scalp problems, but that evidently isn't the case with SD. I even had some hair loss before starting CG. Cutting out the sulfates and getting it well-moisturized took care of that, too - Some claim Nizoral's supposed to help with hair loss, but not for me.

    Used to use DermaZinc, but I don't have a need for anything more than AVG most of the time nowadays.

    HTH - I'm about to be away from a computer for the next week, so I'll check back in then to see how it's all working for you.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

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