big babies/ small babies

shellibeanshellibean Posts: 4,500Registered Users
So, I am watching my neice right now. She is 7 months old. It is crazy to me b/c she is still TINY, bald and toothless and my son and nephew were giant when they were 7 months. Like, to me, she is a young infant looking baby. When he was her age, my son was sitting up on his own, clapping, crawling,had a full head of hair and several teeth, eating solids,etc. I think he was even saying "Dog". I never realized what a big baby I had until watching her. Is it a girl/ boy thing or a size thing or what? I feel like I missed out on a lot of tiny baby time b/c he grew out of that really fast...
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  • KaiaKaia Posts: 8,815Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Girls do tend to be smaller, but a lot of that is individual baby differences. Dylan still doesn't clap. He likes it when I do it, but shows no interest in doing it himself. At 7 months, he was pretty big (20 pounds) but still toothless and without much hair. He only has two teeth now. My baby sister was pretty much bald until she was like 2.
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  • shellibeanshellibean Posts: 4,500Registered Users
    I was bald for years too!
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  • sarah42sarah42 Posts: 4,034Registered Users
    I apparently have long, skinny babies. They both were/are in the 75-90% for height but only the 25-50% for weight. Then when Connor got to be one year and older, his weight caught up to his height more. He didn't get teeth until 8 months, and his hair started to fill in around that age too, but he didn't crawl until 10 months.

    We have friends with a daughter who is several months older than Oliver, and she is tiny. Oliver was about one month old, and their girl was 9 or 10 months old, and she was hardly bigger than him. She was feeding herself finger foods really well, doing baby sign language, and scooting all over the place and pulling up.

    I just try not to compare my babies to others, but it's hard not to. I freaked out bigtime (and I think I posted about it on here) when Connor was not crawling yet and every other baby we knew was, even younger babies. But it's really true that all babies are different, different sizes, and do things at their own pace.
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  • geekygeeky Posts: 4,995Registered Users
    They are all different. I don't think it's related to gender or even baby size. Different kids just hit milestones at different times. I've seen active, advanced, big babies and big babies that are content to just lie or be held. One of the most active babies I'd seen was my friend's little girl who was almost off the charts tiny, but she was crawling at like 5 months.
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,259Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    shellibean wrote: »
    So, I am watching my neice right now. She is 7 months old. It is crazy to me b/c she is still TINY, bald and toothless and my son and nephew were giant when they were 7 months. Like, to me, she is a young infant looking baby. When he was her age, my son was sitting up on his own, clapping, crawling,had a full head of hair and several teeth, eating solids,etc. I think he was even saying "Dog". I never realized what a big baby I had until watching her. Is it a girl/ boy thing or a size thing or what? I feel like I missed out on a lot of tiny baby time b/c he grew out of that really fast...



    I don't think size makes a difference in terms of developmental milestones. In fact, smaller/skinnier babies are often able to sit up/crawl/walk at earlier ages, because they have less weight to haul around. I once saw a skinny SKINNY 7 month old girl who was walking already. Teeth can vary widely. One of my babies had 8 teeth at 4 months old, and 2 of them didn't get any teeth at all til after 12 months. Blondes and redheads are often bald for the first several years, especially if they are going to be curlies.

    Anyway, if your niece isn't sitting up at 7 months old, she's missed an important milestone and should be evaluated by her pediatrician.
  • Jenny CJenny C Posts: 1,195Registered Users
    My girls are both tiny, but Sophia is REALLY tiny. I'm always amazed when I see other babies, how big they are.

    Sophia walked a little earlier than Lucy did, but she had no learning curve. She got up one day and took off. Lucy stumbled around for a while. I think Lucy was talking more at the age Sophia is now. They really are all different.
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  • mad scientistmad scientist Posts: 3,530Registered Users
    Mine were so different. Karan as 9lbs at birth and Sandhya was 6lbs. At a year, Karan was 24 lbs and Sandhya might hit 14 lbs. A 10 lb difference!

    Both of mine were on the slower side when it comes to milestones. Karan was 6.5 months sitting up, never rolled over, crawled or cruised. He just stood up and walked at about 12.5 months. Definitely not the way it was "supposed" to happen.

    Sandhya is being evaluated for development delays but in many ways she is actually more normal than Karan. She's about 3 months behind overall, but seems to be going through the normal progression. She was sitting at 8 months, and I think that she will crawl and cruise before walking.

    Obviously her allergies have played into her size/delays but she seems healthy now and we haven't seen any huge growth spurt since eliminating her allergens which probably means she was always going to be small anyways.
  • subbrocksubbrock Posts: 8,212Registered Users
    majerle has always been a bit on the small side. shes stayed in the 25% for height and weight since she was around 3 months. but she has hit all of her developmental milestones early. she was sitting up at 4 months. started walking at 9 months (mastered it by 10 months) but she remained a toothless kid until she was 15 months old. now shes 18 months old and only has 5 teeth.
  • imagenimagen Posts: 343Registered Users
    I think a lot of factors go into things like that. Some things are a girl/boy thing to some extent, size has a lot to do with heredity.

    Our son was a big, chubby baby and hit his milestones normally. Laura is tiny..I mean REALLY TINY. Developmentally she has been ahead of whats normal by months, is active and eats well. Of course her doctors have been on my back since the day she was born about how small she is. We have had her blood tested for all kinds of things, and she just had a sweat test to rule out cystic fibrosis last Monday. She was also tested for Hirschprungs disease at two weeks old. We were referred to a dignostic referral group at childrens hospital of Pittsburgh who ordered all these tests and after they all came back normal she finally said she just may be a small girl and we'll watch her weight, as long as she keeps gaining, as little gain as it is, they'll be happy. Aside from some freak thing, like some obscure genetic disease that is extremely difficult to diagnose, they have ruled out pretty much everything else.

    The sad side to this, beside putting Laura through all these tests, is that I have become such a hypochondriac about her, big time. I feel like I haven't been able to fully enjoy her without having to worry that there is something wrong with her that we don't know about, and I am really bitter about that, especially because there is a big genetic possibility that she is just small. On one hand I'm bitter because we have put ourselves through all these tests for them to just come back normal, but on the other hand I would never forgive myself if we didn't test for these things and it turn out there were something wrong. It's like these doctors do not look at family history at all, and don't get me started on the darn charts, which I think are BS to begin with. I don't care how she compares to other children, as long as she is healthy for her, that is the important thing.

    You know what's horrible? I'm resentful that although Laura has been ahead of the curve for all of her developmental milestones, just because she is small the doctors have been so insistant that there must be something wrong with her. Meanwhile, my neice was 18 months old before she could stand on her own or support her own weight, but was big, so her doctors didn't bat an eyelash. I love my neice, don't get me wrong, but the situation bothers me.

    I'm so sorry to get on a soapbox or hyjack the thread, I haven't posted about any of these things we've been going through and the topic is one that I'm very sensitive about. Basically I believe all children are different and it's unfair to compare them. As a parent though, I understand it's hard not to.
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  • mad scientistmad scientist Posts: 3,530Registered Users
    ((hugs)) Imagen. We've been through the same battery of tests and specialist appointments also. Its stressful and draining and just a major PITA. I understand what you mean when you say you haven't had a chance to enjoy your baby. I felt the same way for most of this year.

    We're not done yet - sweat test and some other GI analyses are left, but I've put a halt on the whole thing for now. I am thankful to have such proactive pediatric care in place, but as the parent, for now I'm going to follow my gut and say that my baby is ok.

    PM me if you need to talk. I know what you are going through.
  • CynaminbearCynaminbear Posts: 4,476Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I think the differences you see are because they're different babies. Each develops and hits milestones at their own pace. I will say that most of the time it seems like girls bones are filled with air and boys' are filled with lead. I can be holding a boy and a girl, both weigh the same, but the girl will feel so much lighter than the boy. There's something about the bone and muscle structure of boys, I'm not sure what, though.
    My daughter and youngest son have always been at the low end or completely off the charts. I don't give the charts any attention because to me they mean nothing. My oldest son was always at the top of the charts. My youngest, while at the bottom of the chart, was a chubby little baby, and wore the same size clothes from 6 months until 18 months (size 18 month).
    When it comes to those charts and size, I think many doctors go overboard. My friend's daughter is 3 days younger than my youngest. At some point in her first year she wouldn't eat when she got sick. She caught a couple of colds within 2 months and lost some weight. The doctors and parents panicked and put her through all kinds of tests. They tested for everything and every test was negative. When they started talking about biopsying her small intestine to see if she was absorbing anything, the mom finally stopped them and asked if there is a medication that can increase appetite, without side effects. She already knew there is one because a friend of ours had to use it for her own daughter. Once she started the medication, and the doctor ordered fatty and unhealthy meals and snacks, the daughter gained weight. Now, at 11, her doctor has said she's overweight, but rather than trying to lose weight she 'just' needs to grow taller. Sure. Before they started all of those tests, the doctors said maybe she's genetically supposed to be tiny, but we'll do these tests just in case. She has a sensory issue and didn't like the feel of food in her mouth. I refuse to consider that pediatric practice because of how they handled that situation. This same girl, though, was talking several word sentences by a year old. My friend used to be amazed at how physical my son was yet how non-physical and verbal her daughter was. Comparing kids is fruitless.

    With my own daughter, she wasn't walking until 14 months, was 18# or less at a year, and our former doctors were always worried about her size. They grilled me about what she ate, how she behaved, etc. I repeatedly told them she eats healthy food, is incredibly active, social, and on target for all milestones. My side of the family is small, so it makes sense that my kids just might be on the small side. I'm so glad we're able to go to our current doctor. He actually *gasp* trusts mothers to know their own children.
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  • SigiSigi Posts: 2,379Registered Users
    It's so wierd how my boys are so different. Soren weighed 16 lbs at his 4 month well baby visit, which is crazy because the other 2 were probably more like 12 or 13 lbs.
  • shellibeanshellibean Posts: 4,500Registered Users
    Blondes and redheads are often bald for the first several years, especially if they are going to be curlies.

    Anyway, if your niece isn't sitting up at 7 months old, she's missed an important milestone and should be evaluated by her pediatrician.

    I thought it was wild that he had a head full of hair when he was born! I had never seen a blonde baby with a bunch of hair from day 1! Most hairy babies have dark hair Ironically, my neice has dark fuzz/hair!

    When are they "supposed" to sit up on their own? I mean- she can sit in my lap, but not like just sit on the floor or anything by herself for very long. She tips over. I don't think she gets a lot of floor time at home though b/c my nephew is a pretty "active" toddler and I think they worry about him jumping on her or falling on her , etc.
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  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    My son was not even 17 lbs when he turned a year old and was in the 5% on the growth charts. He was 23lbs at 2, 29 lbs at 3 and barely 49 lbs when he was 8. He was just a very small child. His doctor had me keep a food diary for a week because she thought he wasn't getting enough to eat. Nope, she looked at the list and said he should weigh four times as much. He walked before 10 months but did not talk until after he turned two. He was nearly bald until he was three and didn't start getting teeth until much later than most kids. All kids are different and develop at their own body's natural rate.

    My too thin, too short child now is 12 and towers over me and weighs more than I do at 34 years old.
  • StarmieStarmie Posts: 7,155Registered Users Curl Virtuoso
    My DS2 was 4 weeks early and tiny, I feel like he's never quite "caught up" and is still fairly small and extremely skinny for his age (he's 11). He's perfectly happy, healthy and bright (too much for his own good sometimes) and I think he's just always going to be smaller than his brother. He met all his milestones months after DS1 but he got there. I remember having studio photos done of them both - DS1 was 6 months but DS2 had to wait until 9 months as he couldn't sit up before then.
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,259Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    shellibean wrote: »
    Blondes and redheads are often bald for the first several years, especially if they are going to be curlies.

    Anyway, if your niece isn't sitting up at 7 months old, she's missed an important milestone and should be evaluated by her pediatrician.

    I thought it was wild that he had a head full of hair when he was born! I had never seen a blonde baby with a bunch of hair from day 1! Most hairy babies have dark hair Ironically, my neice has dark fuzz/hair!

    When are they "supposed" to sit up on their own? I mean- she can sit in my lap, but not like just sit on the floor or anything by herself for very long. She tips over. I don't think she gets a lot of floor time at home though b/c my nephew is a pretty "active" toddler and I think they worry about him jumping on her or falling on her , etc.


    By 6 months, they're supposed to be able to sit with support. At 7 months, they're supposed to be able to support their own sitting with their hands. 9 months is when they're supposed to get themselves to sitting. Sounds like she's a little behind, but it could just be because she's not getting enough floor time. Your son sounds like he was advanced, so comparing the 2 babies is not going to give you much to go by.

    My first son was behind on sitting...because he was SO FAT that he could hardly bend in the middle. He was a super tubby baby. He caught up, slimmed down, and was walking at 11 months. My third son was pulling himself to sitting by 3 months and full-on crawling and pulling himself to standing at only 5 months. I was so proud of my advanced baby...LOL then he didn't walk til 13 months...not so advanced. I didn't think he'd ever walk and it was so funny that he felt he needed 8 more months after learning to stand before doing the walking thing. I think he was just so good at crawling that he didn't feel the need to walk. He was the best crawler I've ever seen. He's still good at it at 8...this is the kid who wears holes in the knees of all his pants.

    The milestones are just guidelines and all babies are different in when and how they achieve them. When a kid is late on one or more milestones, it's really just a clue for the ped to maybe do a little more evaluation. Usually it's just a variation of normal. Most of them catch up eventually.

    It is fun to watch and root for them though.
  • AmnerisAmneris Posts: 15,117Registered Users
    Shelli, I think there's a huge variation in when babies achieve certain motor milestones, and I think 7 months is too early to be concerned about sitting. I know several of 7 and 8 month olds who were not really sitting. Apparently sitting and crawling are happening later for a lot of babies due to back to sleep and a lack of tummy time.

    I know what you mean about having a big baby and feeling that the newborn stage passed you by. JJ was a huge baby who also sat, moved, clapped etc. fairly early (and always had a ton of hair, but all babies do in my family so I never thought of baldness as being a little baby thing - he was also a fairly late teether) and even now, people think he is older than he is due to his height, hair and the way his face looks - they always think he is 2 or 3. However, JJ was in the 90th percentile for weight until about a year. As soon as he got really mobile and active, his weight plateaued. He's been 22 pounds for months, and is now in the 40th percentile - but the 99th for height. He is really tall, like his father, and now skinny - all that cute baby chubbiness is gone and his onesies that used to barely fit are baggy. Apparently breastfed babies tend to gain a lot in the first few months and then plateau whereas formula babies gain less at the beginning and then get bigger than breastfed babies (on average, of course.)

    I think crawling, sitting, walking etc. have more to do with the baby's personality - is s/he laid back or compelled to move? than anything, and the age in which babies achieve milestones doesn't have anything to do with their future intelligence or success (unless they truly have a delay.)
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  • KaiaKaia Posts: 8,815Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    My friend used to be amazed at how physical my son was yet how non-physical and verbal her daughter was. Comparing kids is fruitless.

    I think part if it is that babies have different "interests" (I can't think of a better word). Dylan was always very strong and physical. He was sitting unsupported by 4-5 months, and we always just knew he was ready to walk already. At a year, he can walk, get himself up from sitting without help, and is almost running. On the other hand, he doesn't say any real words other than mama, dada, nana, and papa. One mom in my group has a daughter that had a vocabulary of a dozen words at 10 months. She was even combining words (Hi kitty, Hi chicken) and associating them with the correct sensation (point to a candle and say hot, hot). Dylan is nowhere near that. Not even close. He also doesn't wave bye-bye. I try to just pay attention to his verbal and social development without getting too concerned. At this point, I think he's just way too busy walking and doing all the stuff he does all day long to bother with talking or waving. He's a very busy boy. But I will continue to watch him and see what happens.
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  • sarah42sarah42 Posts: 4,034Registered Users
    I agree that babies' development does seem to depend on their personality and interests. Connor never waved goodbye when he was "supposed" to. Even now, he's a week away from turning two, he's only ever waved a handful of times. I think he just doesn't care about waving to people. He says "hi" and "bye," so I know he knows how to give greetings, he just won't wave.

    Everyone tells me, and I think it's true, that boys tend to develop their language later than girls. We have some friends with a daughter who is two months younger than Connor, and she is saying more two-word sentences than him. (There I go with the comparisons again!) But when I sat down and made a list of words that he can say, he is where he's supposed to be in terms of vocabulary. He's learning his animal sounds, colors, body parts, and even starting to learn the alphabet, so I really feel like he's doing fine. I think my intuition as a mother will tell me if something is wrong developmentally.
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  • Jenny CJenny C Posts: 1,195Registered Users
    We have friends with a son, Brendan who is the same age as Lucy and it's amazing how different they are.

    He runs around all day, has to play outside, and is behind Lucy verbally. Lucy is content to play inside with her toys, but she talks NON STOP. I swear the kid does not shut up all day. It's really funny to listen to.

    It's like Brendan is running with his legs and Lucy is running her mouth. I don't know if that's a boy/girl thing or what.
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  • shellibeanshellibean Posts: 4,500Registered Users
    I'm not really concerned about her milestones. I was just really interested in how she was still so "young- baby" ish at what I had thought was an "older baby" age since he wasn't like that when he was her age. Like, he could sit in a shopping cart then and she is still in her carseat bucket. It is amazing! And, yall have to see this baby's SMILE! it makes me MELT. But, i'm not gonn a post a pic w/out permission from my brother or his wife.
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  • wavezncurlzwavezncurlz Posts: 1,814Registered Users
    My girls are big. My first has always been above 95% for height and weight and at just 3 looks like a kindergartener. I recall when she was merely 5 months old and in a stroller and a woman walked up to me and asked her a question. She wanted to know why she didn't answer and why she wasn't walking! BECAUSE SHE'S ONLY 5 MONTHS OLD LADY!!!
    She also walked and talked in full sentences very early on. She still acted her age though and that made it hard on her when people expected her to behave in a more mature manner.
    My second started off tiny but soon caught up. She's not as big as my first and she has a different body type but she's still mistaken for an older child. She is very physically adept. I think she won't be as verbal though.

    All this to say that I have always felt slighted on the wee baby stage. I actually felt jealous of the women with little babies and offended when someone called my girls big. Oh well, the grass is always greener....
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  • FieryCurlsFieryCurls Posts: 2,904Registered Users
    My daughter will be 7 months next week. She weighed 15 lbs. and was 25" long at her 6 month well baby check-up almost 2 weeks ago. We have finally seen a doctor who isn't concerned with her being small. She was 3 weeks early and I am a petite person, so it makes sense that she's small herself. She sits up supported by her hands, bangs on everything including Mommy's face, rolls over and over and over, babbles constantly, and is in the very early stages of crawling. I know my daughter and I see her developments, so I am not concerned at all with her being so small.
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  • ruralcurlsruralcurls Posts: 2,574Registered Users
    My girls are big. My first has always been above 95% for height and weight and at just 3 looks like a kindergartener. I recall when she was merely 5 months old and in a stroller and a woman walked up to me and asked her a question. She wanted to know why she didn't answer and why she wasn't walking! BECAUSE SHE'S ONLY 5 MONTHS OLD LADY!!!
    She also walked and talked in full sentences very early on. She still acted her age though and that made it hard on her when people expected her to behave in a more mature manner.
    My second started off tiny but soon caught up. She's not as big as my first and she has a different body type but she's still mistaken for an older child. She is very physically adept. I think she won't be as verbal though.

    All this to say that I have always felt slighted on the wee baby stage. I actually felt jealous of the women with little babies and offended when someone called my girls big. Oh well, the grass is always greener....

    My SIL went through the same thing with her girls, people always thought they were much older than they were.
  • FieryCurlsFieryCurls Posts: 2,904Registered Users
    I recall when she was merely 5 months old and in a stroller and a woman walked up to me and asked her a question. She wanted to know why she didn't answer and why she wasn't walking! BECAUSE SHE'S ONLY 5 MONTHS OLD LADY!!!

    Isn't it funny how people respond to children? We have started going out to restaurants a little bit more now that Lilly can sit in the high chairs. I have had a couple of hostesses argue with me that she can't possibly sit up in the high chair because she looks younger than what she is.
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  • ruralcurlsruralcurls Posts: 2,574Registered Users
    I've worked in preschools and daycares for a long time and it has always amazed me how 2 babies/toddlers the same age can be so different. One talks a mile a minute, the other doesn't talk unless they have something to say. One is perfectly happy crawling, one has to be up and running. One kid will stay where you put him, the other won't. One will climb on anything and the other looks at her like she is nuts. It's fun to watch them grow and see all the differences and know they are all "normal". icon7.gif
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,259Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Having people mistake my big boys for being much older is one (of the many) reasons why I never put shoes on my kids til they were walking. People will mistake a large 4 month old for a walking-1-year-old if the kid is wearing shoes.
  • ruralcurlsruralcurls Posts: 2,574Registered Users
    My two cents on my small babies:

    I know my baby is happy and healthy, has hit her milestones and is a great eater. I am not going to let some doctor who doesn't really know me or my kids tell me my kids are too small based on some stupid chart. I know at times the chart can be useful, but I feel my doctors were relying on it a little too much and not asking any background info on us.

    For the record, my 4 year old (who will be 5 in March) is 33 pounds, my 2 year old (who will be 3 in April) is currently 23 pounds and my almost 1 year old (Jan) is 16 pounds. All are happy, healthy, kids who are great eaters. :flower:
  • SisaSisa Posts: 759Registered Users
    The pressure to weigh a certain amount is really irking me right now.

    Baby Boy was 9 lbs. 2 oz. at his 2-month Dr.'s appointment. Since he was 7 lbs. 1 oz. at birth, it means he dropped from something like the 50th percentile down to the 3rd.

    He's an active, happy, developing boy - I see nothing wrong with him. He loves to eat, and he's growing... Just more long, rather than wide! :lol:

    The doctor wanted to send him to a Ped - "just to check things out"... The appointment with the Ped seemed a waste of time, as he just re-asked me the same questions the Dr. had asked a couple of days earlier.

    When I told him that I wanted to exclusively breastfeed, he said, "Well that's a lofty goal." :roll:

    After asking a billion questions and measuring and weighing Baby Boy, I left with instructions to keep doing what I've been doing all along.

    He says that Baby Boy "has to" weigh 11 1/2 pounds by the next appointment close to the end of January.

    HAS to? Or else what...? :scratch:

    I just want them to leave my boy alone! And I want to breastfeed him in peace! Arrgh!
  • mad scientistmad scientist Posts: 3,530Registered Users
    Sisa wrote: »
    The pressure to weigh a certain amount is really irking me right now.

    Baby Boy was 9 lbs. 2 oz. at his 2-month Dr.'s appointment. Since he was 7 lbs. 1 oz. at birth, it means he dropped from something like the 50th percentile down to the 3rd.

    He's an active, happy, developing boy - I see nothing wrong with him. He loves to eat, and he's growing... Just more long, rather than wide! :lol:

    Boo on your doctor! My little one was small, sickly, not meeting her milestones and yet not one of her doctors suggested I do anything other than exclusively breastfeed her (which we did for over 8 months). So keep doing what you are doing.

    I think the stupidest thing about the growth curves is that they are all dependent on your birth weight. DS was 9 lbs at birth (75th %tile), which was a ridiculous weight considering how small DH and I are. He dropped down to 5th %tile by 6 months and has stayed there ever since. That's where he should be.
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