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Paddle Brush=Clumpier Curls

eccentric_kurlzeccentric_kurlz Posts: 4,144Registered Users
I just started using a paddle brush this past week and I'm REALLY liking the results. It makes detangling much easier, though I still use a comb before brushing to get out the really stubborn tangles.

The brush smooths out my curls, and separates them into nice clumps once dry. I haven't tried using it after applying styling products yet, but I like the results I get with just conditioner.

Sorry, no pics. :) I'm in the process of purchasing a new camera.

I also want to add that I didn't experience any major shedding when using the brush. I thought I'd lose more hair because of its design, but I actually loss less.

So for those that are hesitant, I say give it a try. You may like it. :)
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  • susususu Posts: 767Registered Users
    Yup, I always use my Aveda paddle brush to detangle. I like the results (although sometimes it makes my canopy frizzier).
  • medussamedussa Posts: 12,993Registered Users
    Is this considered a paddle brush? This is all I have.

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  • eccentric_kurlzeccentric_kurlz Posts: 4,144Registered Users
    I think so Medussa, though mine looks alittle different. The one I have is cushioned and ball-tipped. Can't tell if yours is or not.
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  • medussamedussa Posts: 12,993Registered Users
    No ball tips. But I do have something that has those tips but it's not cushioned. I'll try to post a pic later. :D
  • sugarhoneyicedteasugarhoneyicedtea Posts: 44Registered Users
    medussa wrote:
    Is this considered a paddle brush? This is all I have.

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    I use the cheapy version of this by Goody. It was only $2 at Wal-mart. I love it. I mainly use it to detangle before I wash. I loose less hair when I detanlge with this brush. It made my hair "loc" when I used it after stylers (Cactus Leave-in & Garnier Soft Curl Creme, Fantasia IC gel) though, but it was super shiny.
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  • medussamedussa Posts: 12,993Registered Users
    Now that I think about it, this is probably not a paddle brush, as it needs to be wide, right?

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  • love yourself firstlove yourself first Posts: 5,398Registered Users
    medussa wrote:
    Now that I think about it, this is probably not a paddle brush, as it needs to be wide, right?

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    This is a VENT BRUSH and it is an excellent detangling tool. Paddle brushes (which are wider in shape) are also good, especially with wide spaced smooth plastic teeth.
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  • medussamedussa Posts: 12,993Registered Users
    I use this to detangle:

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    Is the vent brush better?
  • medussamedussa Posts: 12,993Registered Users
    The brush smooths out my curls, and separates them into nice clumps once dry. I haven't tried using it after applying styling products yet, but I like the results I get with just conditioner.

    Doesn't applying your styling products afterwards, mess up those clumps?
  • eccentric_kurlzeccentric_kurlz Posts: 4,144Registered Users
    Nope. I gently scrunched/raked my gel in and my curls stayed clumped. Actually, I had too many clumps and raking the gel in alittle bit broke some of the larger clumps apart.
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  • medussamedussa Posts: 12,993Registered Users
    Nope. I gently scrunched/raked my gel in and my curls stayed clumped. Actually, I had too many clumps and raking the gel in alittle bit broke some of the larger clumps apart.

    Thank you.
  • curlee4lifecurlee4life Posts: 219Registered Users
    I just started using a paddle brush this past week and I'm REALLY liking the results. It makes detangling much easier, though I still use a comb before brushing to get out the really stubborn tangles.

    The brush smooths out my curls, and separates them into nice clumps once dry. I haven't tried using it after applying styling products yet, but I like the results I get with just conditioner.

    Sorry, no pics. :) I'm in the process of purchasing a new camera.

    I also want to add that I didn't experience any major shedding when using the brush. I thought I'd lose more hair because of its design, but I actually loss less.

    So for those that are hesitant, I say give it a try. You may like it. :)

    Do you mean the Aveda paddle brush? Is your hair completely wet when you do this or is it slightly damp? Is it correct that leave the conditioner in? If so, which one?

    Sorry for all the questions, but I am in Germany and I have no other source for info other than boardies here on NC

    TIA!

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  • eccentric_kurlzeccentric_kurlz Posts: 4,144Registered Users
    alexta wrote:
    I just started using a paddle brush this past week and I'm REALLY liking the results. It makes detangling much easier, though I still use a comb before brushing to get out the really stubborn tangles.

    The brush smooths out my curls, and separates them into nice clumps once dry. I haven't tried using it after applying styling products yet, but I like the results I get with just conditioner.

    Sorry, no pics. :) I'm in the process of purchasing a new camera.

    I also want to add that I didn't experience any major shedding when using the brush. I thought I'd lose more hair because of its design, but I actually loss less.

    So for those that are hesitant, I say give it a try. You may like it. :)

    Do you mean the Aveda paddle brush? Is your hair completely wet when you do this or is it slightly damp? Is it correct that leave the conditioner in? If so, which one?

    Sorry for all the questions, but I am in Germany and I have no other source for info other than boardies here on NC

    TIA!

    alexta

    I use the brush when washing my hair, so its wet. As for the the brand, I just purchased a regular paddle brush from a local beauty supply store. But I have heard the Aveda paddle brushes are good.

    The first time, I used the brush while I had regular conditioner in(Tigi Moisture Maniac). After letting the conditioner sit on my hair, I brushed my hair in sections.

    A few days or so after that, I used it after using conditioner, and when applying leave in.

    The best way to get smooth and clumpy curls(for me anyway) was when I was brushing, I would lie my hair on my hand while brushing with the paddle brush. It made my hair very smooth.

    I still haven't tried brushing in styling product, and I probably won't. I don't use alot of styling product anyway. So if I want alittle hold, I'll just scrunch it in where needed.

    HTH
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  • curlee4lifecurlee4life Posts: 219Registered Users
    Thank you for the quick reply! I just returned to my computer after having had my dinner :D

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  • niclarniclar Posts: 110Registered Users

    I also want to add that I didn't experience any major shedding when using the brush. I thought I'd lose more hair because of its design, but I actually loss less.

    So for those that are hesitant, I say give it a try. You may like it. :)

    So I went to sally's and got a cushion paddle brush ( it was only 4 bucks on the clearance table :D ) and yesterday during my sunday ritual of clarify/deep condition/style, I used the brush while i had conditioner in and I must say I had the clumpiest curls Ive ever had. The hair just clumped into bigger curls, I was surprised. I didnt do a wash and go so I dont know how it will assist the end resulting style but from what i saw it will give me thicker less stringy curls. Even after running my fingers through my hair while playing around they stayed together..

    Oh and another major plus was the shedding, or the lack there of..There were practically no hairs in the brush. I have thin fine strands that just snap if you look at them to hard let alone brush or comb when wet..I was impressed.

    thanks for the tip :D
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  • DocDoc Posts: 367Registered Users
    shygirl, you've done it again! :lol:
    Now I'm off to buy a paddle brush.
    Dense kinky-curly; healthy and growing strong!
  • DocDoc Posts: 367Registered Users
    shygirl, you've done it again! :lol:
    Now I'm off to buy a paddle brush.
    Dense kinky-curly; healthy and growing strong!
  • medussamedussa Posts: 12,993Registered Users
    The brush smooths out my curls, and separates them into nice clumps once dry. I haven't tried using it after applying styling products yet, but I like the results I get with just conditioner.

    Okay, I did try brushing after the product was in and I really love it. The hair clumped the way I like it and there was hardly any frizz. The brushing seemed to smooth out my hair and then I'd *gently* scrunch to break up the very large clumps and to create better curl definition. When I brush before adding product, I somehow wind up frizzing the canopy. The brushing remedied that. :D

    There's a picture of my results in my Fotki. It's the last picture on page 2.
  • eccentric_kurlzeccentric_kurlz Posts: 4,144Registered Users
    medussa wrote:
    The brush smooths out my curls, and separates them into nice clumps once dry. I haven't tried using it after applying styling products yet, but I like the results I get with just conditioner.

    Okay, I did try brushing after the product was in and I really love it. The hair clumped the way I like it and there was hardly any frizz. The brushing seemed to smooth out my hair and then I'd *gently* scrunch to break up the very large clumps and to create better curl definition. When I brush before adding product, I somehow wind up frizzing the canopy. The brushing remedied that. :D

    There's a picture of my results in my Fotki. It's the last picture on page 2.

    Wow! :shock:

    Absolutely beautiful. Your curls definitely clump better and look much more defined compared to the other pics.

    I guess I need to try brushing my hair with styling product now. :)
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  • briccagrlbriccagrl Posts: 540Registered Users
    Okay..silly question. I tried using the paddle brush(Paul Mitchell) today. I brushed after I applied Tooshea. I did not brush after applying product. I didnt really find that my curls clumped at all. Im realizing now that when I brushed.. I brushed with my head upside down. could this be the problem? Or maybe it is the Tooshea?
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  • st. louis bluest. louis blue Posts: 404Registered Users
    I can't answer your question, briccagirl, but I wanted to post my brush experience. I broke down and bought a brush, the Aveda styling brush. I got it because its teeth seemed a little wider than both the paddle brush and the denman 4. I'm pretty scared of brushing, so I went with my gut on that.

    I used it this morning to detangle, with lots of OneC. How wondrous is feeling a brush on your scalp? It might be the thing I miss most about straight hair, brushing it out.

    Anyway, that said, I did not notice it detangling any better than the wide-toothed comb. It did seem like a lot of hair came out, but I didn't feel any real pulling, so I think maybe that was hair that had shed. I don't know. However, there is a rough edge on the wood part which I'm POSITIVE is going to be trouble -- I didn't take it out of the box to check it, foolishly -- so I have to either sand that edge down some, or exchange the brush.

    Anyway, I brushed again after I put my gel in. Honestly, my hair is looking exactly the same, the clumps turned out how they typically do.
  • eccentric_kurlzeccentric_kurlz Posts: 4,144Registered Users
    I've tried brushing with styling product, and I didn't particularly like the results. I had very bushy/frizzy hair.

    Works better for me when I'm just brushing conditioner in. I'll just stick to using it for detangling.
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  • urbancurlurbancurl Posts: 980Registered Users
    medussa wrote:
    The brush smooths out my curls, and separates them into nice clumps once dry. I haven't tried using it after applying styling products yet, but I like the results I get with just conditioner.

    Okay, I did try brushing after the product was in and I really love it. The hair clumped the way I like it and there was hardly any frizz. The brushing seemed to smooth out my hair and then I'd *gently* scrunch to break up the very large clumps and to create better curl definition. When I brush before adding product, I somehow wind up frizzing the canopy. The brushing remedied that. :D

    There's a picture of my results in my Fotki. It's the last picture on page 2.

    Wow! Your hair looks perfect! Do you really mind the shrinkage when you get such bouncy, frizz-free curls? I'd take curls like that with shrinkage any day.

    Curltopia suggested I try a paddle brush, and now Shyygirl's raving about it and your hair looks lovely with it too-- I guess I'll have to try!
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  • medussamedussa Posts: 12,993Registered Users
    urbancurl wrote:
    medussa wrote:
    The brush smooths out my curls, and separates them into nice clumps once dry. I haven't tried using it after applying styling products yet, but I like the results I get with just conditioner.

    Okay, I did try brushing after the product was in and I really love it. The hair clumped the way I like it and there was hardly any frizz. The brushing seemed to smooth out my hair and then I'd *gently* scrunch to break up the very large clumps and to create better curl definition. When I brush before adding product, I somehow wind up frizzing the canopy. The brushing remedied that. :D

    There's a picture of my results in my Fotki. It's the last picture on page 2.

    Wow! Your hair looks perfect! Do you really mind the shrinkage when you get such bouncy, frizz-free curls? I'd take curls like that with shrinkage any day.

    Curltopia suggested I try a paddle brush, and now Shyygirl's raving about it and your hair looks lovely with it too-- I guess I'll have to try!

    Thanks! I haven't used the brush since my hair shrinage episode. For awhile, I was having problems with dryness and frizziness. I'm not sure what it was. But it's back to normal.

    I posted a question to you on a thread (which, I cannot remember) about how you get such beautiful second day hair. How do you sleep on it? Do you apply anything in the morning?

    Also, do you use OneC as a leave-in under [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink]?
  • st. louis bluest. louis blue Posts: 404Registered Users
    OK, now that my hair is completely dried, it's very floofy. On the other hand, I did get a number of compliments on it.
  • urbancurlurbancurl Posts: 980Registered Users
    medussa wrote:
    ...Thanks! I haven't used the brush since my hair shrinage episode. For awhile, I was having problems with dryness and frizziness. I'm not sure what it was. But it's back to normal.

    I posted a question to you on a thread (which, I cannot remember) about how you get such beautiful second day hair. How do you sleep on it? Do you apply anything in the morning?

    Also, do you use OneC as a leave-in under [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink]?

    So brushing is something you know you can fall back on when you want that look.

    I'm sorry if I failed to your answer question on another thread! I tend to get nice 2nd day hair if I get a firm set with my 1st day hair. At night I put it in a pineapple, and I sleep on a cotton sateen pillowcase. If I'm lucky, I don't add a single thing to my hair on day 2. But other times, I will touch it up with a mixture of water and whatever I used the day before-- [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/AG-Recoil-p-24.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=ag-hair-cosmetics-recoil-curl-activator]Re:coil[/buylink] or AO B-5 gel lately, or even just water and a little conditioner, only to the curls that have gotten frizzy.

    I haven't actually used [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] for a long time, and I can't remember if I ever used OC underneath. Probably, as I didn't like [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] without conditioner underneath.
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  • medussamedussa Posts: 12,993Registered Users
    Thanks Urbancurl. I adore your hair. I can't achieve results such as yours because my curls (coils? I don't know the terminology) are tighter.

    I need to start experimenting with gel that gives me a stronger hold than AnGell, I guess, even though I *love* the stuff. I sleep on a satin pillowcase, with a pineapple. But when I let it down, my hair seems to want to stay up. It's like I need to pull it down. It's hard to describe. Maybe I'm piling it up too high on my head. It's almost at my front hairline.
  • urbancurlurbancurl Posts: 980Registered Users
    medussa wrote:
    Thanks Urbancurl. I adore your hair. I can't achieve results such as yours because my curls (coils? I don't know the terminology) are tighter.

    I need to start experimenting with gel that gives me a stronger hold than AnGell, I guess, even though I *love* the stuff. I sleep on a satin pillowcase, with a pineapple. But when I let it down, my hair seems to want to stay up. It's like I need to pull it down. It's hard to describe. Maybe I'm piling it up too high on my head. It's almost at my front hairline.

    Thanks Medussa; I love your hair and wish I could achieve such uniform, vertical wavy curls like yours. But I think in your paddle brush pictures, we almost look like hair twins (except I have frizz!).

    Yes, maybe a stronger gel would help you achieve 2nd day hair. Also, do you plop? I never used to but I've been experimenting with it and sometimes I end up with 3rd day hair!

    About the pineapple, I don't put mine quite that high. And the sides of my hair do end up frizzy, but they are not visible once I let my hair down. It does give me more lift at the roots, but I like that.

    Oops, we hijacked this thread!
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  • Miss DoglaMiss Dogla Posts: 102Registered Users
    Wow, Medussa! Your hair is gorgeous!! Do those gels you use get hard at all or do you just scrunch out the hardness when it's 100% dry?

    Thanks and keep on rockin those ringlets! :D
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