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Are there any white people with 4a hair?

The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
Just wondering.
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  • eccentric_kurlzeccentric_kurlz Posts: 4,144Registered Users
    Yes. There's a curly here named "Pacific Poppy" who has 3c hair, and she has two daughters with one having 3c and the other having 4a hair. The eldest one(w/ 4a hair) has curls tighter than most ladies that consider themselves 4a. And both she and her hubby are White.

    She used to have links to her fotki and had her daughter's pics on the kiddie site, but I'm not sure if she does anymore.
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  • mariag002mariag002 Posts: 3,557Registered Users
    Oh God yes!

    Just the other day I was in Cambridge, Mass and I saw this funky white boy with the BIGGEST 4a naturally blonde afro I've ever seen. He was so fly LOL :love10:

    umm don't tell my hubby I said that LOL
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  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    Yeah, I've seen plenty of them. My own used to be almost that curly.
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  • mariag002mariag002 Posts: 3,557Registered Users
    auntnett wrote: »
    Yeah, I've seen plenty of them. My own used to be almost that curly.

    Why did it change? Puberty? Age?

    My cousin went from straight to curly. My mom had curly hair but now that she's older its straight. That's so weird how that happens.
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  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    mariag002 wrote: »
    auntnett wrote: »
    Yeah, I've seen plenty of them. My own used to be almost that curly.

    Why did it change? Puberty? Age?

    My cousin went from straight to curly. My mom had curly hair but now that she's older its straight. That's so weird how that happens.

    Wasn't very curly as a child. Hit puberty and it went crazy curly and coarse. Now I'm nearing menopause and it's gotten straighter and finer the past 3-4 years. I knew pretty much how to deal with it very curly, now I've had to learn how, at times, to get it to curl more. Go figure?!? That's when I started really lurking around these boards.
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  • multicultcurlymulticultcurly Posts: 5,132Registered Users
    I've seen one white American person before. Her hair seemed to be a very frizzy 4a bordering on 4b. I also think it's a pretty common hairtype among white men in North Africa. When I lived in St. Louis, there were a lot of white women, usually American Jewish, with 3c, but very kinky hair. The texture was something that was usually only assoicated with people of dominant African descent. But as a kid, I realized that adult hair comes in all varieties, regardless of racial appearance. Interesting question. :-)
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  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
    I know a few, but none who comfortably accept it, unfortunately. One of them actually pulled up the area in front and cut it, leaving herself with stubble right above her forehead. It was a hideous thing to do to herself.

    The other ruthlessly straightens, despite the dry, lifeless effect it gives and the less-than-flattering results. There is no reasoning with her on this subject.

    The third always let hers be natural, but I havn't seen her in a long time. I hope she hasn't gone the way of th Almighty Straightening Iron. (BTW she was blonde, and IMO, her hair rocked.)
  • nikkidanniellnikkidanniell Posts: 235Registered Users
    OMGoodness... It's so funny you said this because I was at the car dealership two days ago and saw a female white mechanic who had kinkier hair than mine I was like :eek: I had never seen this before.. but then I was like if she has kinky hair why do white people ask so many questions about mine? :scratch:
  • Stephanie198907Stephanie198907 Posts: 2,607Registered Users
    I've seen 3 or 4 white people with 4a hair, some course 4a and others silky 4a but kinky,coily, and curly nonetheless. For some reason they were all blonde which I thought was pretty cool. All of them had awesome hair.
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  • 9osZBehbi9osZBehbi Posts: 93Registered Users
    Si, I kno this one girl with super tight hair. Higher texture than mine. (Blonde) And found this picture idk where it was maybe here don't remember. Her hair is like a 3c/4a mix.

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  • mochalatta408mochalatta408 Posts: 214Registered Users
    Something really funny happened...I stepped into a cafe in LA and found my hair TWIN to be a white woman with brownish/blonde hair...lol. I walked into the place and we stared at each other speachless like...what?? how?? That was her natural hair too... We giggled about it and went our separate ways. I should have taken a picture...lol.
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  • svetikisvetiki Posts: 85Registered Users
    Of course. A lot of the white kids at my school with 4a hair usually have dark or red hair. But two years ago during soccer season, we were playing against some arts academy and there was this white dude with BIG, HUGE blonde 4a hair. It was the most awesome hair i've ever seen and he was so fiiiiiiiiiiiiiine! Mhmm:toothy6: I shouldv'e asked him for his number!

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  • svetikisvetiki Posts: 85Registered Users
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    The bottom kids aren't white, but they do have blonde 4a-ish hair

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    Some folks even get perms to achieve 4a/4b tecture:

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    3c/4a in the front, 4b in the back, with a few sprinkles of 3c in random spots.
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  • multicultcurlymulticultcurly Posts: 5,132Registered Users
    Svetki -- The woman (second picture) looks to have 3b or 3b/c hair that was brushed out more so than having 4b hair. Many people with 3 something hair who don't moisturize or brush hair when dry will end up with lots of frizz or an afro.
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  • midgimidgi Posts: 2,409Registered Users
    There's a white girl in one of my textiles courses that has 3c/4a hair and on the 2nd week of school she finally asked me how I do my own hair and I directed her to this site. If you're on here, Cassie, HEYYYY!!!!

    Also, my mom's best friend in middle school (back in the early 70s) had 4a/4b hair that she styled into a TWA. When I go home for Thanksgiving, I'll try to post her pics. She let it just be free and do whatever it wanted because she couldn't figure out how to properly care for it, and my mom told me she would put mayonnaise and water in her hair to style it!
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    There's a guy named Ben Jaffe, who looks white to me, but his mom is Black (dad White). They were jazz musicians in NOLA. He has a big, big fro...second from left obviously, maybe he's more 3c though?:

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    I knew a woman in college who was very pale, ID'd as White and had very light blond hair not unlike Ben Jaffe's in texture. She told me in her dorm room once that her family had some "negro" blood. I told her I could tell, but I'm not sure she liked that much.

    Anywho, her use of the word "negro" always stuck with me (that was 17 years ago!). It was like she couldn't say "Black" for some reason.
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  • mariag002mariag002 Posts: 3,557Registered Users
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  • YuyuchanYuyuchan Posts: 84Registered Users
    I like all of the pictures that were shown. It shown how creative God is. :3
  • rnconniesfrnconniesf Posts: 256Registered Users
    I had 4a hair until 4 kids and menopause, not it's 3c with some 3b around the front. My youngest son is a 4a but he keeps his hair buzzed. A few of my cousins have 4a hair. We are a mix of Northern and Southern Italian and I always thought we got the 4a hair from the Southern Italians as they carry some African blood.
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  • Nappy_curly_crownNappy_curly_crown Posts: 4,162Registered Users
    There are lots of people that identify as white that have 4a hair. I grew up in South Florida where there is an extermely large Jewish population and the term that was used then (i'm not sure if this is offensive so forgive me cause that's not my intent) was the "Jew 'Fro". Almost every Jewish person I knew as a kid had at LEAST 3c hair, with most having 3c-4aish and a few with stright up 4b hair. The crazy thing, is that a lot used to straighten thier hair just like we did. My grandmothers friend used to have a shop in her house, and a LOT of the ladies that came to her were Jewish.

    Those that didn't straighten, usually fought thier hair, brushing it at night thinking that would make it sliky and straight, when all it did was make it a frizzy mess. I went to Curve salon for a consulation (formally Miss Jessies Salon) and was SHOCKED (well not totally) that a large portion (at least 40%) of her clientle were WHITE and/or JEWISH women.

    Also, you have to remember that during slavery because of a lot of the mixing (forced and unforced) a lot of people escaped and "passed", which infused the african hair genes into the white population. You'd be hard pressed nowadays to find a white OR black person that doesn't have some mixture in the gene pool.
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    I saw a White 4a today. A man.
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  • sweetmx85sweetmx85 Posts: 1,017Registered Users
    9osZBehbi wrote: »
    Si, I kno this one girl with super tight hair. Higher texture than mine. (Blonde) And found this picture idk where it was maybe here don't remember. Her hair is like a 3c/4a mix.

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    this is exactly how my curls are just my hair is dark brown i wonder if shes mixed?
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  • CammybCammyb Posts: 576Registered Users
    There are lots of people that identify as white that have 4a hair. I grew up in South Florida where there is an extermely large Jewish population and the term that was used then (i'm not sure if this is offensive so forgive me cause that's not my intent) was the "Jew 'Fro". Almost every Jewish person I knew as a kid had at LEAST 3c hair, with most having 3c-4aish and a few with stright up 4b hair. The crazy thing, is that a lot used to straighten thier hair just like we did. My grandmothers friend used to have a shop in her house, and a LOT of the ladies that came to her were Jewish.

    Those that didn't straighten, usually fought thier hair, brushing it at night thinking that would make it sliky and straight, when all it did was make it a frizzy mess. I went to Curve salon for a consulation (formally Miss Jessies Salon) and was SHOCKED (well not totally) that a large portion (at least 40%) of her clientle were WHITE and/or JEWISH women.

    Also, you have to remember that during slavery because of a lot of the mixing (forced and unforced) a lot of people escaped and "passed", which infused the african hair genes into the white population. You'd be hard pressed nowadays to find a white OR black person that doesn't have some mixture in the gene pool.
    You make an excellent point...so true.
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  • TrenellTrenell Posts: 3,562Registered Users
    Also, you have to remember that during slavery because of a lot of the mixing (forced and unforced) a lot of people escaped and "passed", which infused the african hair genes into the white population..

    When I see white people with 4a hair, my first thought is "Someone's got a little soul in them" :)
  • krazykkrazyk Posts: 243Registered Users
    mariag002 wrote: »
    As my kids would say

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    XD I can't stop laughing lmao!
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  • ToyToyToyToy Posts: 61Registered Users
    Yes, my blonde and blue-eyed German colleague :). IT's really cool, because the way we take care of our hair is very similar.
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  • ZinniaZinnia Posts: 7,339Registered Users
    Did anyone see 20/20 on Friday?

    The kidney transplant had two very curlies. The husband of the woman who received the kidney had 4a hair. She also had very curly hair...looked to be a mix of 3c and 4a.
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  • Wild Curls Raquelle Wild Curls Raquelle Posts: 793Registered Users
    Windflower wrote: »
    Did anyone see 20/20 on Friday?

    The kidney transplant had two very curlies. The husband of the woman who received the kidney had 4a hair. She also had very curly hair...looked to be a mix of 3c and 4a.

    Ok so I don't feel bad anymore. I thought I was loosing it because the first thing I noticed about the women was their hair. Throughout the entire interview I was admiring her curls. And I kept thinking to myself hmm I work down the block from ABC maybe I will run into her and ask her about her regime for her curls. I am officially curl addicted.
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  • subbrocksubbrock Posts: 8,212Registered Users
    There are lots of people that identify as white that have 4a hair. I grew up in South Florida where there is an extermely large Jewish population and the term that was used then (i'm not sure if this is offensive so forgive me cause that's not my intent) was the "Jew 'Fro". Almost every Jewish person I knew as a kid had at LEAST 3c hair, with most having 3c-4aish and a few with stright up 4b hair. The crazy thing, is that a lot used to straighten thier hair just like we did. My grandmothers friend used to have a shop in her house, and a LOT of the ladies that came to her were Jewish.

    Those that didn't straighten, usually fought thier hair, brushing it at night thinking that would make it sliky and straight, when all it did was make it a frizzy mess. I went to Curve salon for a consulation (formally Miss Jessies Salon) and was SHOCKED (well not totally) that a large portion (at least 40%) of her clientle were WHITE and/or JEWISH women.

    Also, you have to remember that during slavery because of a lot of the mixing (forced and unforced) a lot of people escaped and "passed", which infused the african hair genes into the white population. You'd be hard pressed nowadays to find a white OR black person that doesn't have some mixture in the gene pool.

    my sister says i have a jew 'fro. not cool.
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